I have an Eris running 2.1 OTA. I want to be able to overclock it, which obviously requires root, but I do not want to install a custom ROM. I want to continue running 2.1 OTA. Is this possible?
Based on what I've read, I figured it might be.
1) I thought I could follow the instructions in "I. Gaining root" at the Walkthrough thread on this site to root the phone. Simply rooting does not modify or wipe the 2.1 OTA ROM, correct? So I could be root but still running 2.1 OTA.
2) Flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip found in the "Overclocking Patch and update.zip" thread on this site, which would modify the kernel so I can O/C.
3) Install and use setCPU.
Any reason this would not work or would be a bad idea? I'm generally computer savvy but have not rooted a phone before.
As mentioned above, I want to be running stock 2.1 OTA (or as close to it as possible, because I want the stability) simply with the ability to overclock.
Thanks!
Now someone here correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the way I understand the rooting process...
When you obtain root, you flash over your 2.1 OTA, and don't have that anymore. What you're flashing is a pre-rooted ROM with an old 2.1. You absolutely want to flash something else once you install the recovery image. If you want a ROM that's as close to stock OTA as possilble while still being able to overclock, I recommend this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044 (or, actually, this one is closer to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685581)
Also, ensure that you can root in the first place... check your HBOOT version.
If you were to only root, you'd no longer be running OTA, since the root is itself a leak.
jcase's Plain Jane is based on the OTA and is probably what you're looking for.
No, you cannot do that. Rooting isn't simply turning on a switch, it's replacing the entire ROM.
chrikenn said:
I have an Eris running 2.1 OTA. I want to be able to overclock it, which obviously requires root, but I do not want to install a custom ROM. I want to continue running 2.1 OTA. Is this possible?
Based on what I've read, I figured it might be.
1) I thought I could follow the instructions in "I. Gaining root" at the Walkthrough thread on this site to root the phone. Simply rooting does not modify or wipe the 2.1 OTA ROM, correct? So I could be root but still running 2.1 OTA.
2) Flash the kernel-overclock-update-v3.zip found in the "Overclocking Patch and update.zip" thread on this site, which would modify the kernel so I can O/C.
3) Install and use setCPU.
Any reason this would not work or would be a bad idea? I'm generally computer savvy but have not rooted a phone before.
As mentioned above, I want to be running stock 2.1 OTA (or as close to it as possible, because I want the stability) simply with the ability to overclock.
Thanks!
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Plain Jane ROM posted on this Forum would be ideal then I think
Ok, thanks for the information. I didn't realize that rooting itself replaced the stock ROM.
If you gave me your phone, I could root it and hand it back to you and with the "right" ROM, you'd be none the wiser.
Why are you afraid to use a custom ROM ? Ivan's, for example, is essentially a tweaked version of HTC/VZW's current Eris ROM.
I'm afraid to use a custom ROM because my instinct is that a custom ROM would be less stable than the default 2.1 OTA. This is my wife's phone, so stability is key.
But the ROMs that are essentially the same as the 2.1 OTA would presumably be essentially just as stable as the 2.1 OTA, so maybe I will give it a whirl.
so i just got a replcemnt htc eris and it came w/the 2.1 already on it...so is there a way for me to get a custom rom on it????and if so what do i have to do
drayon07 said:
so i just got a replcemnt htc eris and it came w/the 2.1 already on it...so is there a way for me to get a custom rom on it????and if so what do i have to do
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684049
Can't install custom kernal without root and can't root without stock 1.5. No root for ota yet
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thanks but which one do i select because i already have the 2.1 on my phone and the link was mainly talking about putting it on there if you didnt have it
thanks but which one do i select because i already have the 2.1 on my phone and the link was mainly talking about putting it on there if you didnt have it
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You can't root because your phone has 2.1. Therefore you cannot use custom Rom or kernel. Sorry
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You can't root because your phone has 2.1. Therefore you cannot use custom Rom or kernel. Sorry
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Where have you been???? You can root 2.1 OTA, just not any of the leaks. The instructions are the same for 2.1 as for 1.5. Again, you can root 2.1 OTA just not the leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
and that is just one of many threads talking about rooting the OTA
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Where have you been???? You can root 2.1 OTA, just not any of the leaks. The instructions are the same for 2.1 as for 1.5. Again, you can root 2.1 OTA just not the leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
and that is just one of many threads talking about rooting the OTA
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Yes, the 2.1 OTA update is rootable. The 2.1 OTA update does not change the bootloader which allows for rooting.
However, those that got a refurbished device from Verizon with 2.1 may or may not be able to root. It has been said that some of the refurbished units have come back with the newer non-rootable bootloader.
There is an entire thread about this at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688898
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I am new to the forum, so please be gentle...
I recently rooted my HTC Hero (Sprint) and was wondering if I will be required to unroot when it comes time (whenever it will be) to upgrade to the official 2.1 release. I guess my question really is, will the release automatically undo the exploit that gives me root permissions, or will I have to do it before the upgrade will install?
Why not wait for roms from the 2.1 update..so u dont have to unroot.
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I am new to the forum, so please be gentle...
I recently rooted my HTC Hero (Sprint) and was wondering if I will be required to unroot when it comes time (whenever it will be) to upgrade to the official 2.1 release. I guess my question really is, will the release automatically undo the exploit that gives me root permissions, or will I have to do it before the upgrade will install?
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The official release is going to unroot your phone and it will not matter whether you are rooted or not.
Also, if you decide to run the official RUU you may not be able to gain root access again. Most likely a method will be found, but there are no guarantees.
Another alternative is to wait a day after the official release and run one of the custom ROMs here that will utilize the official version, but maintain your ability to keep root.
Also, the process is not automagic. The update will have to be downloaded on your PC or you will have to go to a Sprint Store/Bestbuy to have them do the update for you.
Don't worry about the message you get saying an update is available. It's won't install it self.
But +1 for waiting 24 hours for a dev rom.
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Another alternative is to wait a day after the official release and run one of the custom ROMs here that will utilize the official version, but maintain your ability to keep root.
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Um don't u mean probably within two or three hours after official update is out. U know the rom devs will not wait a whole day. Lol
Forgive my ignorance...I used asroot2 to root my Hero vice flashing the ROM, will this make a difference? I have not actually loaded a ROM yet. I downloaded ROM Manager and intend to use it, is it worth while or is there a better way out there?
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Forgive my ignorance...I used asroot2 to root my Hero vice flashing the ROM, will this make a difference? I have not actually loaded a ROM yet. I downloaded ROM Manager and intend to use it, is it worth while or is there a better way out there?
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Rom Manager only works if you have flashed ClockWork recovery.
Most our devs just do AmonRa updates.
asroot2 is what we all used (for sprint users at least...)(or some variation in the implementation of it)
Pretty much asroot2 allows root access until you flash a rom that has su installed in to the /bin directory. After you have flashed a rom, asroot2 is useless and actually probably removed, never really paid attention.
No appoligies needed for your questions as they have merrit. But searching the forum for "unroot for 2.1 update" would yeild most of these answers.
So I've got the recovery image...which ROM would be recommended to just experiment with? This will be the first time I've done this.
Look for cb.cp-v69 it is the fastest, most stablest Rom everest. Est. ;p
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So I've got the recovery image...which ROM would be recommended to just experiment with? This will be the first time I've done this.
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Each of the ROMs will have their own distinct look and their own advantages. I would take a day or so to lurk around the Hero CDMA Android Development
forum and read through some of the [ROM] threads and read the changelogs, and what the forum members have to say about it. You will benefit from using any of the given ROMs, but you may find that you like a certain look, or feature that only one of them provides. I'm a flipzmode fan myself, so I run a few variations of fresh ROMs and ROMs based of of flipzmode's work. All of the ROMs that I have tried from each of the ROM devs have been awesome.
I recently aquired the Vibrant and all I have to say is OMG this is a fnatastic phone. it blows my cliq, cliq xt, and g1 out of the water.
Anywho, the one question I have now that my phone is rooted and has the clockworkmod recovery is when the 2.2 update releases around september-ish, will this effect the phone being able to update like it did for the cliq, or will i be able to flash 2.2 from root and just lose root. i would be ok with it at that point because 2.2 takes care of all the issues that i have with 2.1 update1. the only reason i know this is because i have 2.2 on the g1 and its amazing. any thlughts on the matter?
once rooted on this phone, you have to wait for one of the devs to dump a 2.2 flashable rom to get the update. This is why I am gladly waiting to get the ota before considering rooting. I love the phone as it is.
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once rooted on this phone, you have to wait for one of the devs to dump a 2.2 flashable rom to get the update. This is why I am gladly waiting to get the ota before considering rooting. I love the phone as it is.
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yeah but I heard that if you just root only, you will be able to get the OTA update as you are still using the stock ROM. But if you are using a modified dev ROM, then yeah it will not auto update.
Can anyone confirm this?
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yeah but I heard that if you just root only, you will be able to get the OTA update as you are still using the stock ROM. But if you are using a modified dev ROM, then yeah it will not auto update.
Can anyone confirm this?
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Yes this is the case, if all you do is root the phone, you will still get Tmobile updates. You might lose root, but as was pointed out in a similar thread, Samsung doesn't seem to care about locking things up, so you should be able to root again easily.
ok so its more in line with what the g1 used to do if you didnt go onto a modified rom. with the cliq, even if you root and are on the stock rom, you still cant load the ota update because it fails when you try to load it once downloaded. i dont mind losing root once 2.2 comes out, i just want to make sure i can get it. i was thinking of going back to stock without root, but i'm having some trouble getting the phone in download mode
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Yes this is the case, if all you do is root the phone, you will still get Tmobile updates. You might lose root, but as was pointed out in a similar thread, Samsung doesn't seem to care about locking things up, so you should be able to root again easily.
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Thanks for the input. Has this been the case for any other phone? Where rooting only will still get you OTA updates, or is this a theory?
Thanks~
Hi guys,
I have a question about updating to Froyo once it is available with a rooted phone. Will I have to unroot in order to take advatage of an OTA update or will I be able to upgrade along with the unrooted users?
Does the same thing apply to a phone that is flashed with a custom ROM and Kernal?
I've just rooted my phone and installed wifi tether which was the main reason for me to root.
The appeal extra battery life and the ability to over/underclock is the reason I want to flash a custom rom.
I ask this because although I've succeeded in rooting my Epic I can't seem to boot into the clockworkmod recovery screen and thus not been able to flash a custom rom or kernal. I have yet to try unrooting and starting over from scratch but with Froyo seemingly on the horizon, I don't want to go through all the hassle of trying to get a custom ROM only to have to undo it when Froyo arrives.
Thanks
This has been covered multiple times in this forum.
Devs will likely be coming out with ROMs based on Froyo very soon after the Froyo update.
But if you can't wait till then, you'll have to go back to stock everything (kernel+ROM) to get your phone updated via OTA.
Still not sure about root, but if our phones get de-rooted during the update, someone will also come up with a rooting method quickly.
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Still not sure about root, but if our phones get de-rooted during the update, someone will also come up with a rooting method quickly.
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My guess is yes, you will lose root as it will flash a new kernel that won't have the rooted initramfs. You will most likely need to re-root using a new method once 2.2 is available. I could be wrong though, nobody knows for sure yet.
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Does anyone know when unrEVOked will be able to find a root for the Wildfire on 2.2.1? I hope they find it soon. From how much they've been delaying it seems like they just don't want to even try. Should I disable the Search online for updates feature so my phone stops updating?
* They will release it when they want to. We have no option or control over them. If they want to try, it is their wish, if they don't want to try, again it is their wish. Live with it.
* If you are already on 2.2.1, there's no point disabling search for updates because it is extremely unlikely there will be any.
*Sigh*, why cant you read already existing threads before creating another one? Is it too hard?
omfg! seems like you have disabled search function for this forum, this topic gets posted at least once a day
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Does anyone know when unrEVOked will be able to find a root for the Wildfire on 2.2.1? I hope they find it soon. From how much they've been delaying it seems like they just don't want to even try. Should I disable the Search online for updates feature so my phone stops updating?
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just re rooted my wildfire on froyo
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just re rooted my wildfire on froyo
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How did you do this ?
I was told that if we make a new thread everyday about it they will update it!!
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How did you do this ?
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when i got the phone it was on 2.1 but did'nt want to wait for froyo so rooted using unrevoked and installed the wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 then tried the stock rom thought i screwed up when i read the forums and discovered root was not availiable for froyo first i checked hboot version on my phone discovered that it was 0.80.0003 then i installed the wildpuzzle rom back onto the sd card rebooted phone in recovery mode and installed rom from sd card rebooted and waited for it to restart now have root back on wildfire not sure if it will work on the new hboot tho
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when i got the phone it was on 2.1 but did'nt want to wait for froyo so rooted using unrevoked and installed the wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 then tried the stock rom thought i screwed up when i read the forums and discovered root was not availiable for froyo first i checked hboot version on my phone discovered that it was 0.80.0003 then i installed the wildpuzzle rom back onto the sd card rebooted phone in recovery mode and installed rom from sd card rebooted and waited for it to restart now have root back on wildfire not sure if it will work on the new hboot tho
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WildPuzzle 2.2.1 (Or rather, ANY custom ROM), removes the updated HBOOT. So, obviously, 2.2.1 will be rootable in such cases.
3xeno said:
WildPuzzle 2.2.1 (Or rather, ANY custom ROM), removes the updated HBOOT. So, obviously, 2.2.1 will be rootable in such cases.
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so using a custom rom over the top of a stock 2.2.1 as i did makes the wildfire rootable again?
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so using a custom rom over the top of a stock 2.2.1 as i did makes the wildfire rootable again?
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No. You will not be able to use a Custom ROM over Stock 2.2.1 because installing a Custom ROM requires root.
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No. You will not be able to use a Custom ROM over Stock 2.2.1 because installing a Custom ROM requires root.
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dont know how i managed it but thats what i've done
If I understood what you said, then I dont think you have installed the official 2.2.1 update. I cant see that anywhere in your post. (Saying you applied the official 2.2.1 update).
When you went back to the Stock ROM, it was still at 2.1, which is why the HBOOT was still at 0.80. To install the official update, from the Stock ROM, you would have to accept the OTA Update, and then install it, which I don't think you did.
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If I understood what you said, then I dont think you have installed the official 2.2.1 update. I cant see that anywhere in your post. (Saying you applied the official 2.2.1 update).
When you went back to the Stock ROM, it was still at 2.1, which is why the HBOOT was still at 0.80. To install the official update, from the Stock ROM, you would have to accept the OTA Update, and then install it, which I don't think you did.
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when i went back to the stock rom it was deffo 2.2.1 i put the wildpuzzle rom straight over the top of it
Not possible. There is some error in communication somewhere, but, if it were possible to directly put Custom ROMs over the official 2.2.1, we wouldnt have had threads like this everyday.
unless after you rooted and flashed, you then installed a ruu then updated you did not have 2.2. when you went back did you restore a nandroid backup?
you are able to install ota update on rooted phone
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unless after you rooted and flashed, you then installed a ruu then updated you did not have 2.2. when you went back did you restore a nandroid backup?
you are able to install ota update on rooted phone
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no back up all i know is that after i updated i had no root on the wildfire and on 2.2 now after putting wildpuzzle rom over the top of it i now haved a rooted wildfire again
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no back up all i know is that after i updated i had no root on the wildfire and on 2.2 now after putting wildpuzzle rom over the top of it i now haved a rooted wildfire again
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Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
Bewz said:
Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
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tell me how to share and i will
Bewz said:
Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
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this is the rom i used to get the 2.2 upgrade http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LF2TWEHJ
But isn't it possible to modify oryginal rom from HTC to downgrade HBOOT , and then make Wildfire rootable? Or make some crash in HBOOT witch will allow to root? That's a lot of ways, is it possible that HTC make Wildfire really unrootable on 2,2,1? That they make unlockable bootloader? Like a motorola?
Im not understanding why there is a distinction between the two. I thought you could not have ROMS and Root on 2.3? If you flash a 2.3 ROM do you then lose your root access and have to downgrade all over again to get 2.2/root and try a new ROM?
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Im not understanding why there is a distinction between the two. I thought you could not have ROMS and Root on 2.3? If you flash a 2.3 ROM do you then lose your root access and have to downgrade all over again to get 2.2/root and try a new ROM?
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If your on stock 2.3 you have to downgrade to 2.2 in order to root your phone yes. That's only because the root exploit used exists in 2.2 and not 2.3. But once rooted, you can flash a 2.3 ROM and you will not lose root. You would only lose root if you RUU back to stock. The ROMs listed in android development have root capabilities/superuser built in. So once your rooted and have recovery setup, go ahead and flash any of those ROMs (like supreme sense, cm7, miui, ect) without worrying about losing root.
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so once your 2.2 rooted, can you take the OTA 2.3 update and still retain root or is the only way to get 2.3 back and stay rooted is via a ROM?
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so once your 2.2 rooted, can you take the OTA 2.3 update and still retain root or is the only way to get 2.3 back and stay rooted is via a ROM?
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If you take the update it will break root. You'll need to flash a Gingerbread ROM. X99 has a ROM that is basically a rooted version of the ota. General rule of thumb, don't accept updates unless you want risk breaking root
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cool thanks thats what i figured, nice to get that confirmed.