hi
is there any way to root xperia plat 2.3.3 A.....386 without unlocking boot loader
or , i have to unlock it , cause gigngerbreak 1.2 is not working on xperia play.
or can i unlock ==> root ==> relock and , have lock and rooted xperia play ?if i do that , maybe hurt the bootloader ? (( damaged bootloader )) ?
i think that is global question and appreciated for anyone that answer it
if you dont want to unlock the bootloader, you will have to downgrade to 3....145 (i think it ends in 145) and straight after first boot, before doing anything else, run gingerbreak, and then you can upgrade via OTA. if .368 is available for ota, that is. personally, i'd unlock bootloader and either install doomlords kernel or run the fastboot CWR module. main difference being (just an assumption), if you just run the cwr method, you can then relock the bootloader after updating
here's the fastboot recovery. if you use it, please remember that you must NOT flash this one. it is purely a run once method. and you can then keep the stock kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639
solitarymonkey said:
if you dont want to unlock the bootloader, you will have to downgrade to 3....145 (i think it ends in 145) and straight after first boot, before doing anything else, run gingerbreak, and then you can upgrade via OTA. if .368 is available for ota, that is. personally, i'd unlock bootloader and either install doomlords kernel or run the fastboot CWR module. main difference being (just an assumption), if you just run the cwr method, you can then relock the bootloader after updating
here's the fastboot recovery. if you use it, please remember that you must NOT flash this one. it is purely a run once method. and you can then keep the stock kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639
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thank you so much for your help .
i've did this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098131 before and worked prefect , but i hear that SE want to deploy a new update , i flashed and relocked my phone again tu access SEUS.
but my question is , if i unlock and root my phone , then relock it via fast boot , after relocking root will remove/disapear or still working ??
if still working , so that is best way to have root xperia play and use sontericsson update service.
i apppreciated again if somebody update me on this case .
thanks
i believe you will still have root access after re-locking the bootloader. but whether you will still have root after updating via seus, i honestly dont know. but to be fair, the speed the guys on this forum work at, you will probably have access to a flashtool compatible update before you know it's even out
hang on, you got an R800x?
The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...
solitarymonkey said:
if you dont want to unlock the bootloader, you will have to downgrade to 3....145 (i think it ends in 145) and straight after first boot, before doing anything else, run gingerbreak, and then you can upgrade via OTA. if .368 is available for ota, that is. personally, i'd unlock bootloader and either install doomlords kernel or run the fastboot CWR module. main difference being (just an assumption), if you just run the cwr method, you can then relock the bootloader after updating
here's the fastboot recovery. if you use it, please remember that you must NOT flash this one. it is purely a run once method. and you can then keep the stock kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639
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solitarymonkey said:
hang on, you got an R800x?
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i have R800X = xperia play , 2.3.3 , 4.0.... 386
what do you mean ?
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The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...
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greetings
yes , that is OTA ,
but after relock can i keep the root option ? and update via SEUS ?
open it : http://www.xperiablog.net/
fantastic man
the r800x is a tad different in methods, and i'll be a little more cautious on my advice for you. but i can confirm that root remains after OTA update, as i had to use this method a few weeks ago, before i had my fastboot activated. but remember, bootloader must be re-locked before any official update methods (sorry if i keep repeating this, i just get paranoid in a protective way)
and regarding the blog you linked. they said last year that the x10 will not be officially updated above 2.1. a few months later, after the play, arc and neo came out, they changed their mind. twice. not only did they say that they were gonna give us (i was a x10 owner up until last month) gingerbread with just stock android apps, they then ended up releasing 2.3 with optimised sony ericsson versions of some apps, like the camera so dont believe things too early
Dousan said:
The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...
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the r800x is a tad different in methods, and i'll be a little more cautious on my advice for you. but i can confirm that root remains after OTA update, as i had to use this method a few weeks ago, before i had my fastboot activated. but remember, bootloader must be re-locked before any official update methods (sorry if i keep repeating this, i just get paranoid in a protective way)
and regarding the blog you linked. they said last year that the x10 will not be officially updated above 2.1. a few months later, after the play, arc and neo came out, they changed their mind. twice. not only did they say that they were gonna give us (i was a x10 owner up until last month) gingerbread with just stock android apps, they then ended up releasing 2.3 with optimised sony ericsson versions of some apps, like the camera so dont believe things too early
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you right .
and i had xperia mini 2 month ago , i can remember what SE have done with us on that . just 2.1 ...
ok , i'll root my phone again , relock it and check via SEUS if that working or not , i hope that it work
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oh god , please help me don't brick my beauty xperia play
mehdi.moha said:
greetings
yes , that is OTA ,
but after relock can i keep the root option ? and update via SEUS ?
open it : http://www.xperiablog.net/
fantastic man
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I think you should ask these questions in the r800x dev thread as there would be a bigger chance for some clear yes or no answers. I haven't read that thread and as @solitarymonkey says the r800x rooting and unlocking is a tad different to the r800i, so can't really advice in that direction on wether you'll stay rooted and if you can just relock and update through SEUS as on the r800i. Just take a look in the dev section and you'll find the thread about r800x
Regards Dousan...
just be careful with your root if you use seus. if you can do ota, please do so, as root retention is tried and tested (on the r800i, and i'm guessing the r800a, too)
ok , thanks my friends
my phone is R800 i , i've rooted that 2 weeks ago and turnd it back to SE stock just for next update .
thank you again
Is it possible to use GingerBreak on the 3.0 ROM, then use SE PC Companion to update to the 4.0 ROM and keep root? My carrier doesn't do OTA updates so I can't use it.
I've heard that it breaks root when done over seus. But I haven't tried it out myself to verify. The worst you can do is try, lose root, and reflash the previous fw with flashtool and get root back.
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Is it possible to backup my own "old" firmware?
If you mean the whole system image. You will need the bootloader unlocked and use the clockwork recovery fastboot tool to create a nand backup. Or you can download one of many back up apps from the market that can create back ups of your apps and data.
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Is it possible to use GingerBreak on the 3.0 ROM, then use SE PC Companion to update to the 4.0 ROM and keep root? My carrier doesn't do OTA updates so I can't use it.
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The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...
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Using SEUS or PC Companion is the same as flashing with flashtool. You'll get a fresh and clean install of the firmware and everything get's eraesed in that process (nothing get's touched on the sdcard)
Regards Dousan...
Kaikz said:
Is it possible to use GingerBreak on the 3.0 ROM, then use SE PC Companion to update to the 4.0 ROM and keep root? My carrier doesn't do OTA updates so I can't use it.
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gingerbreak is not working on 2.3.3 ,
we should unlock the bootloader , ther root it , thern relock it and wait for new update via OTA/ pc companion / SE update service .
there is another way , i've read this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090&page=3
but i think it's better to DON't downgrade the x-play , cause most of people on that post had problem .
i want to start new way : unlock== > root ==> relock (( i hope after relock my root remain ))
All your looking for is root?
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Gingerbreak seems to be the only solution to be able to enjoy the Root without unlocking bootloader and modifying the phone. I know for sure that people who used the unlock are now unable to install the update from Sony Ericcson and will risk a brick of their Play if they do.
With ICS coming and announced i strongly advice people to keep their bootloader locked
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Gingerbreak seems to be the only solution to be able to enjoy the Root without unlocking bootloader and modifying the phone. I know for sure that people who used the unlock are now unable to install the update from Sony Ericcson and will risk a brick of their Play if they do.
With ICS coming and announced i strongly advice people to keep their bootloader locked
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No rooting wont brick it even when an update comes. What does brick it is the removal of some apps after rooting.
Can some tell me if I am correct? I'm 95% sure that is the case.
I also think you can unroot if you want.
Whats ICS ?
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Whats ICS ?
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Ice Cream Sandwich its the next version of Android.
Hi, I've been looking around several threads but it was hard to find an answer.
My new Xperia Play phone should be arriving any day now, so I'm just getting everything ready tutorial-wise for rooting my phone. However I'm unclear on a few things!
Firstly, once I have unlocked the bootloader, a certain tutorial tells me to use 'play_modded.img' as the necessary root package to root my phone. Are there different root packages for the Xperia Play or just one?
Second, once I have rooted my phone, should I update to 2.3.3 firmware? Should I update to 2.3.3 before I begin rooting? Or is it not possible to root the 2.3.3 software at the moment and so just stay with 2.3.2?
What are the differences with the firmware updates and are they necessary?
Thirdly, being from the UK I am pretty sure that my phone is R800i, is there anything I need to take into consideration when rooting for having an Xperia from a specific region?
I hope you guys can help and sorry for the noobish questions, this is my first smartphone (and a good choice, I hope!).
Don't update if you unlocked your bootloader.... Your play will probably come as 2.3.3 already. So you need to flash it to 2.3.2 uk generic WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader. Root the 2.3.2 and then update to 2.3.3 through phone (ota, without hooking it up to computer at all)
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Never do any ota updates through phone if you decided to unlock the bootloader. As of now there is no reason to unlock bootloader because cm7 is not ready yet.
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What is 'Ota'? I'm more confused now!
Also, what is 'cm7'?
Why are you saying there is no reason to unlock the bootloader, is this not the first step in order to root your phone?
If you only want root, then no. You need to root with gingerbreak, but it will only work with 2.3.2
Maybe it would be best if you checked in again when you receive your play then it will be easier to guide you?
If the play is on 2.3.2 it will be very easy and if it's on 2.3.3 it will take some more work.
OTA is over the air, it just means that you can update over 3g or on wifi, no need of a cmputer
As i see it you'll get the best out of just rooting for now and through that get some knowledge and learn a bit of basics with android modding
Regards Dousan...
Thanks Dousan, it's making a lot more sense now!
I heard that 2.3.3 fixes quite a lot of bugs, so will rooting on 2.3.2 and remaining on a rooted 2.3.2 not be a disadvantage?
I checked out what CM7 project was all about, a custom rom? It sounds really good, I'm genuinely excited about all the added features!
Could someone please link me to a good tutorial on how to use Gingerbreak with the Xperia Play?
Are there any disadvantages of rooting the Xperia Play at the minute (other than the chance of a brick)?
Once rooted, does the custom .img flashed to the phone contain any bloatware? Is there a guide on how to remove the bloatware and other tricks to speed up the phone, customizing it to make it better?
I presume that flashing the new .img to the phone will cause the pre-installed free games such as Crash Bandicoot to be erased, is there any way to keep them?
First see here. <-- is a guide to root the xplay with a locked bootloader and still be able to update to 2.3.3.
You do not have to stay on 2.3.2 once you have rooted. But rooting will only work on 2.3.2 since in 2.3.3 the exploit gingerbreak uses was patched. But if you follow the guide in the link above. You can use gingerbreak on 2.3.2 then use OTA (not seus or pc companion) to update and it will keep your root access and upgrade you to 2.3.3.
To install CM7 you will need an unlocked bootloader. I plan to install it when a stable version is released. My bootloader is still locked atm. So its a case of just unlocking the bootloader when CM7 is stable and installing it. I would keep your bootloader locked untill you have a bit more experience (since you could brick your phone if you use SEUS or OTA or PC Comapnion to update once the bootloader is unlocked)
No need for a tutorial for gingerbreak. Simply put the Gingerbreak.apk on your sd card then use a file manager such as astro to navigate to it. Open it and just click the root button (for some people it took 20+ mins, in my case was like 1 minute).
No real disadvantages to rooting. Rooting will not damage your phone at all. Since all you are doing is gaining admin rights, it what you do after root that could semi-brick it. As long as your bootloader is locked you can use SEUS to fully repair the phone from brick anyways (which is highly unlikely to happen) Just see here for stuff that is safe to remove after root and you will be ok.
You are not flashing the .img since thats for people with an unlocked bootloader. Just follow the guide at the top of my post and all will be good. If you remove/freeze the bloat your phone will run better anyways. Since rooting and freezing bloat anything i have thrown at my phone has caused it no problems apart from some games on FPSE.
i used the above guide and im now on rooted 2.3.3
and yea i stupidy semi-bricked mine i forgot to put usb debugging on before flashing ha but yea seus update sorted that out
flashed again, rooted, then OTA update
I am guessing this might be coming from someone once it's released, but it's been a while since I played with my phone and I'm not that tech savy on the latest on these as things are constantly moving/changing.
I'm running a 2.2 Custom ROM and would like to upgrade to the stock generic 2.3 GB once it's released and I have no clue as to the best way to do this. So once it's out, if we can get a decent step by step how to, that would be great.
Thank you.
i would say use the flashtool thread in the dev section, flash a world generic rom and the corresponding baseband. don't root it or anything like that.
sign in, then connect to pc companion and see if the update hits.
Flash stock 2.1 firmware
update your x10 thru SE software
ensure your phone is rooted and xrecovery installed then wait for pre-rooted gb update to come out on here. It will be almost certainly simply bea case of flashing kernal and baseband using flashtool and custom update using xrecovery.
i certainly would not recommend flashing your phone back to stock 2.1 roms at this point in time - if you update to stock gingerbread then rooting may become more tricky and you may well have to go back to 2.1 rooted before you can get a rooted gingerbread - we simply dont know what security fixes will be included in the gingerbread update - so we dont know how easy it will be to root it once you have updated to stock 2.3
step 1. wait for the rom to launch
step 2. go to the gingerbread thread and read!!
step 3. read before posting the same question that's been asked thousands of times already!!
Do you guys know 2.3 update is out?
http://androidos.in/2011/07/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-gingerbread-update-rolling-out-now/
lekhwani said:
Do you guys know 2.3 update is out?
http://androidos.in/2011/07/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-gingerbread-update-rolling-out-now/
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Read this.
step 2. go to the gingerbread thread and read!!
step 3. read before posting the same question that's been asked thousands of times already!!
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Then read the stickey in the general section.
Then read the Product Blog.
The 2.3.3 update HAS NOT been rolled out!!!
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lekhwani said:
Do you guys know 2.3 update is out?
http://androidos.in/2011/07/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-gingerbread-update-rolling-out-now/
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you might want to read here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186953
Phantasm4489 said:
ensure your phone is rooted and xrecovery installed then wait for pre-rooted gb update to come out on here. It will be almost certainly simply bea case of flashing kernal and baseband using flashtool and custom update using xrecovery.
i certainly would not recommend flashing your phone back to stock 2.1 roms at this point in time - if you update to stock gingerbread then rooting may become more tricky and you may well have to go back to 2.1 rooted before you can get a rooted gingerbread - we simply dont know what security fixes will be included in the gingerbread update - so we dont know how easy it will be to root it once you have updated to stock 2.3
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I'm going for this route as well, wait for a flashtools rootable 2.3. But i don't think it will take much long, the x10 gingerbread rom is based on the one SE worked for the Arc and that was rooted pretty quickly, no?
For those still with stock 2.1 i can understand all the excitement, but for me, i've been using a custom rom with basically the same UI and features for a while, I can wait a little longer.
They were only able to root arc/play/neo 2.3.2 they are still working on a way to root 2.3.3 so far no luck.
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They were only able to root arc/play/neo 2.3.2 they are still working on a way to root 2.3.3 so far no luck.
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If you are referring to using an easy one-click method to root, then yes you are correct.
But there are other ways to achieve root on 2.3.3 which involves flashing.
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If you are referring to using an easy one-click method to root, then yes you are correct.
But there are other ways to achieve root on 2.3.3 which involves flashing.
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Yeah, I was reading the post 2 above this one swearing & shaking my fists, because I'm running j's 2.3.3 rooted rom right now....2.3.3 can be rooted, it's just gonna be a little while before it's a one-click. That's always how it goes
Now that arc, neo, play & x10 are all gonna be 2.3.3, maybe it'll get the ball rolling a little faster on one-click solutions. We do have the largest Xperia dev community in the X10 section, afterall
We can simply "repair" the phone with SEUS. SEUS will download the last version for your device and install it automatically.
Gugoo said:
We can simply "repair" the phone with SEUS. SEUS will download the last version for your device and install it automatically.
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maybe, but only with an unrooted, unbranded generic 2.1 rom SE says to use PCC, which means it will most likely be available for SEUS, too (IIRC, they use the exact same database for the rom updates)
Good info so far. I might sell my phone (or lend it to a friend) and it would obviously sell best with an OEM 2.3 unlocked ROM which is assumingly bug-free for the most part.
So SEUS looks at what is currently on the phone and repairs it to that?
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Good info so far. I might sell my phone (or lend it to a friend) and it would obviously sell best with an OEM 2.3 unlocked ROM which is assumingly bug-free for the most part.
So SEUS looks at what is currently on the phone and repairs it to that?
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SEUS does the same thing PCC does, but it actually works every time like it should
It reflashes your firmware....and it's saved my ass many, many times If it weren't for SEUS I'd have a bricked phone at least a dozen times over lulz
To update direct to 2.3.3 offical just flash my ftf with flashtool
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To update direct to 2.3.3 offical just flash my ftf with flashtool
link below
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is this the official stock UK 2.3.3 rom?
check the dev section, everyone
doomlord uploaded a flashable pre-rooted GB, not as easy as one-click-root but it's here
i have an r800i that i have sucessfully rooted and unlocked the bootloader but in doing so i have downgraded my firmware to 2.3.2 from 2.3.3 when i connect my phone to the computer my pc companion automatically picks up a software update . if i update my phone to 2.3.4 via pc coompanion will this affect my root at all and can it potentially brick my phone please help
There is a chance (a pretty big one) that it will brick your phone, but could be recovered.
To get to the new update, search Firmware 4.0.A world etc and download Flash tool 2.9.1. Look around in XDA development for play section
Drag the firmware (4. 0). To firmware folder in the flashtool. Go to drivers and install ggaetup22. Click ok (files from google drivers required, you should've kept the files you had from unlocking bootloader.
OK once that's done click on X10 flashtool, click flash, highlight all . sins from the firmware, then do what the flashtool says.
You will not lose your root.
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thanks for the help my man glad somebody could be a help also do you know of any tested and working kernels and cooked roms that can be installed on the phone without losing any of the functionalitys
If you successfully unlocked your bootloader then it is a better to just flash the newest modded rom with root included already. Do Not update when your bootloader is unlocked...
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thanks ive found a new rom and kernel for my phone today and im in the stages ov installing it to the phone so i will let you know how i get on
hi does anyone out there got gingerbreak working on xperia play 2.3.3
without downgrading ROM. and ota. would love to be able to root without flashing to a previousROM as to scared incase of bricking phone.
help would be appreciated. thanks
The exploit that Gingerbreak roots the phone through was patched in the 2.3.3 update. The only other way is to either use the auto root fastboot method, or flash one of doomlords kernels which is prerooted. But obviously, you will need an unlocked bootloader for that
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Gingerbreak can still be used granting you downgrade to the very first ROM the Xperia PLAY came with, and that's 2.3 then OTA upgrade to keep it updated.
Why are you afraid? It's so damn easy you can use WotanClient or FlashTool. Besides, you will never have to unlock bootloader since you're not up to flashing ROMs and so i presume...
thanks for the reply. shame about gingerbreak not working as that would have been my preferred choice to root.looks like i will have to downgrade ROM at some point. need to get this bloatware off my phone and give me some memory back.
I've flashed roms before on my xperia x10 using flash. which was easy to do and worked
just don't want to brick my brand new fantastically brilliant xperia play.