[Q] Update to 2.3.3 after Rooting?

[Q] Update to 2.3.3 after Rooting? - Xperia Play General

Hi, I've been looking around several threads but it was hard to find an answer.
My new Xperia Play phone should be arriving any day now, so I'm just getting everything ready tutorial-wise for rooting my phone. However I'm unclear on a few things!
Firstly, once I have unlocked the bootloader, a certain tutorial tells me to use 'play_modded.img' as the necessary root package to root my phone. Are there different root packages for the Xperia Play or just one?
Second, once I have rooted my phone, should I update to 2.3.3 firmware? Should I update to 2.3.3 before I begin rooting? Or is it not possible to root the 2.3.3 software at the moment and so just stay with 2.3.2?
What are the differences with the firmware updates and are they necessary?
Thirdly, being from the UK I am pretty sure that my phone is R800i, is there anything I need to take into consideration when rooting for having an Xperia from a specific region?
I hope you guys can help and sorry for the noobish questions, this is my first smartphone (and a good choice, I hope!).

Don't update if you unlocked your bootloader.... Your play will probably come as 2.3.3 already. So you need to flash it to 2.3.2 uk generic WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader. Root the 2.3.2 and then update to 2.3.3 through phone (ota, without hooking it up to computer at all)
Sent from my XPlay using XDA App.

Never do any ota updates through phone if you decided to unlock the bootloader. As of now there is no reason to unlock bootloader because cm7 is not ready yet.
Sent from my XPlay using XDA App.

What is 'Ota'? I'm more confused now!
Also, what is 'cm7'?
Why are you saying there is no reason to unlock the bootloader, is this not the first step in order to root your phone?

If you only want root, then no. You need to root with gingerbreak, but it will only work with 2.3.2
Maybe it would be best if you checked in again when you receive your play then it will be easier to guide you?
If the play is on 2.3.2 it will be very easy and if it's on 2.3.3 it will take some more work.
OTA is over the air, it just means that you can update over 3g or on wifi, no need of a cmputer
As i see it you'll get the best out of just rooting for now and through that get some knowledge and learn a bit of basics with android modding
Regards Dousan...

Thanks Dousan, it's making a lot more sense now!
I heard that 2.3.3 fixes quite a lot of bugs, so will rooting on 2.3.2 and remaining on a rooted 2.3.2 not be a disadvantage?
I checked out what CM7 project was all about, a custom rom? It sounds really good, I'm genuinely excited about all the added features!
Could someone please link me to a good tutorial on how to use Gingerbreak with the Xperia Play?
Are there any disadvantages of rooting the Xperia Play at the minute (other than the chance of a brick)?
Once rooted, does the custom .img flashed to the phone contain any bloatware? Is there a guide on how to remove the bloatware and other tricks to speed up the phone, customizing it to make it better?
I presume that flashing the new .img to the phone will cause the pre-installed free games such as Crash Bandicoot to be erased, is there any way to keep them?

First see here. <-- is a guide to root the xplay with a locked bootloader and still be able to update to 2.3.3.
You do not have to stay on 2.3.2 once you have rooted. But rooting will only work on 2.3.2 since in 2.3.3 the exploit gingerbreak uses was patched. But if you follow the guide in the link above. You can use gingerbreak on 2.3.2 then use OTA (not seus or pc companion) to update and it will keep your root access and upgrade you to 2.3.3.
To install CM7 you will need an unlocked bootloader. I plan to install it when a stable version is released. My bootloader is still locked atm. So its a case of just unlocking the bootloader when CM7 is stable and installing it. I would keep your bootloader locked untill you have a bit more experience (since you could brick your phone if you use SEUS or OTA or PC Comapnion to update once the bootloader is unlocked)
No need for a tutorial for gingerbreak. Simply put the Gingerbreak.apk on your sd card then use a file manager such as astro to navigate to it. Open it and just click the root button (for some people it took 20+ mins, in my case was like 1 minute).
No real disadvantages to rooting. Rooting will not damage your phone at all. Since all you are doing is gaining admin rights, it what you do after root that could semi-brick it. As long as your bootloader is locked you can use SEUS to fully repair the phone from brick anyways (which is highly unlikely to happen) Just see here for stuff that is safe to remove after root and you will be ok.
You are not flashing the .img since thats for people with an unlocked bootloader. Just follow the guide at the top of my post and all will be good. If you remove/freeze the bloat your phone will run better anyways. Since rooting and freezing bloat anything i have thrown at my phone has caused it no problems apart from some games on FPSE.

i used the above guide and im now on rooted 2.3.3
and yea i stupidy semi-bricked mine i forgot to put usb debugging on before flashing ha but yea seus update sorted that out
flashed again, rooted, then OTA update

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Rogers android update question

I have my play from rogers and have bought a sim unlock code, rooted and removed allot of apps. can i still upgrade with out any issue's?
has anyone done this yet?

The How To Root thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090 suggests that you shouldn't do anything but root prior to installing the OTA update.
If you don't mind wiping your phone I think the best way get rooted 2.3.3 is to follow that thread. Flash the generic 2.3.2, root then update.
You get 2.3.3 with root and no Rogers bloat.

Since you removed a lot of Apps, it will most likely not let you ota update. Reflash it back to 2.3.2,root and ota update. Then you remove Apps.
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root x-play 2.3.3 A.0...386 without unlock bootloader

hi
is there any way to root xperia plat 2.3.3 A.....386 without unlocking boot loader
or , i have to unlock it , cause gigngerbreak 1.2 is not working on xperia play.
or can i unlock ==> root ==> relock and , have lock and rooted xperia play ?if i do that , maybe hurt the bootloader ? (( damaged bootloader )) ?
i think that is global question and appreciated for anyone that answer it

if you dont want to unlock the bootloader, you will have to downgrade to 3....145 (i think it ends in 145) and straight after first boot, before doing anything else, run gingerbreak, and then you can upgrade via OTA. if .368 is available for ota, that is. personally, i'd unlock bootloader and either install doomlords kernel or run the fastboot CWR module. main difference being (just an assumption), if you just run the cwr method, you can then relock the bootloader after updating
here's the fastboot recovery. if you use it, please remember that you must NOT flash this one. it is purely a run once method. and you can then keep the stock kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639

solitarymonkey said:
if you dont want to unlock the bootloader, you will have to downgrade to 3....145 (i think it ends in 145) and straight after first boot, before doing anything else, run gingerbreak, and then you can upgrade via OTA. if .368 is available for ota, that is. personally, i'd unlock bootloader and either install doomlords kernel or run the fastboot CWR module. main difference being (just an assumption), if you just run the cwr method, you can then relock the bootloader after updating
here's the fastboot recovery. if you use it, please remember that you must NOT flash this one. it is purely a run once method. and you can then keep the stock kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639
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thank you so much for your help .
i've did this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098131 before and worked prefect , but i hear that SE want to deploy a new update , i flashed and relocked my phone again tu access SEUS.
but my question is , if i unlock and root my phone , then relock it via fast boot , after relocking root will remove/disapear or still working ??
if still working , so that is best way to have root xperia play and use sontericsson update service.
i apppreciated again if somebody update me on this case .
thanks

i believe you will still have root access after re-locking the bootloader. but whether you will still have root after updating via seus, i honestly dont know. but to be fair, the speed the guys on this forum work at, you will probably have access to a flashtool compatible update before you know it's even out

hang on, you got an R800x?

The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...

solitarymonkey said:
if you dont want to unlock the bootloader, you will have to downgrade to 3....145 (i think it ends in 145) and straight after first boot, before doing anything else, run gingerbreak, and then you can upgrade via OTA. if .368 is available for ota, that is. personally, i'd unlock bootloader and either install doomlords kernel or run the fastboot CWR module. main difference being (just an assumption), if you just run the cwr method, you can then relock the bootloader after updating
here's the fastboot recovery. if you use it, please remember that you must NOT flash this one. it is purely a run once method. and you can then keep the stock kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639
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solitarymonkey said:
hang on, you got an R800x?
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i have R800X = xperia play , 2.3.3 , 4.0.... 386
what do you mean ?

Dousan said:
The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...
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greetings
yes , that is OTA ,
but after relock can i keep the root option ? and update via SEUS ?
open it : http://www.xperiablog.net/
fantastic man

the r800x is a tad different in methods, and i'll be a little more cautious on my advice for you. but i can confirm that root remains after OTA update, as i had to use this method a few weeks ago, before i had my fastboot activated. but remember, bootloader must be re-locked before any official update methods (sorry if i keep repeating this, i just get paranoid in a protective way)
and regarding the blog you linked. they said last year that the x10 will not be officially updated above 2.1. a few months later, after the play, arc and neo came out, they changed their mind. twice. not only did they say that they were gonna give us (i was a x10 owner up until last month) gingerbread with just stock android apps, they then ended up releasing 2.3 with optimised sony ericsson versions of some apps, like the camera so dont believe things too early

Dousan said:
The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...
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solitarymonkey said:
the r800x is a tad different in methods, and i'll be a little more cautious on my advice for you. but i can confirm that root remains after OTA update, as i had to use this method a few weeks ago, before i had my fastboot activated. but remember, bootloader must be re-locked before any official update methods (sorry if i keep repeating this, i just get paranoid in a protective way)
and regarding the blog you linked. they said last year that the x10 will not be officially updated above 2.1. a few months later, after the play, arc and neo came out, they changed their mind. twice. not only did they say that they were gonna give us (i was a x10 owner up until last month) gingerbread with just stock android apps, they then ended up releasing 2.3 with optimised sony ericsson versions of some apps, like the camera so dont believe things too early
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you right .
and i had xperia mini 2 month ago , i can remember what SE have done with us on that . just 2.1 ...
ok , i'll root my phone again , relock it and check via SEUS if that working or not , i hope that it work
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oh god , please help me don't brick my beauty xperia play

mehdi.moha said:
greetings
yes , that is OTA ,
but after relock can i keep the root option ? and update via SEUS ?
open it : http://www.xperiablog.net/
fantastic man
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I think you should ask these questions in the r800x dev thread as there would be a bigger chance for some clear yes or no answers. I haven't read that thread and as @solitarymonkey says the r800x rooting and unlocking is a tad different to the r800i, so can't really advice in that direction on wether you'll stay rooted and if you can just relock and update through SEUS as on the r800i. Just take a look in the dev section and you'll find the thread about r800x
Regards Dousan...

just be careful with your root if you use seus. if you can do ota, please do so, as root retention is tried and tested (on the r800i, and i'm guessing the r800a, too)

ok , thanks my friends
my phone is R800 i , i've rooted that 2 weeks ago and turnd it back to SE stock just for next update .
thank you again

Is it possible to use GingerBreak on the 3.0 ROM, then use SE PC Companion to update to the 4.0 ROM and keep root? My carrier doesn't do OTA updates so I can't use it.

I've heard that it breaks root when done over seus. But I haven't tried it out myself to verify. The worst you can do is try, lose root, and reflash the previous fw with flashtool and get root back.
Sent from my R800i using XDA App

Is it possible to backup my own "old" firmware?

If you mean the whole system image. You will need the bootloader unlocked and use the clockwork recovery fastboot tool to create a nand backup. Or you can download one of many back up apps from the market that can create back ups of your apps and data.
Sent from my R800i using XDA App

Kaikz said:
Is it possible to use GingerBreak on the 3.0 ROM, then use SE PC Companion to update to the 4.0 ROM and keep root? My carrier doesn't do OTA updates so I can't use it.
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Dousan said:
The only way to preserve root when updating is OTA.
Regards Dousan...
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Using SEUS or PC Companion is the same as flashing with flashtool. You'll get a fresh and clean install of the firmware and everything get's eraesed in that process (nothing get's touched on the sdcard)
Regards Dousan...

Kaikz said:
Is it possible to use GingerBreak on the 3.0 ROM, then use SE PC Companion to update to the 4.0 ROM and keep root? My carrier doesn't do OTA updates so I can't use it.
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gingerbreak is not working on 2.3.3 ,
we should unlock the bootloader , ther root it , thern relock it and wait for new update via OTA/ pc companion / SE update service .
there is another way , i've read this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090&page=3
but i think it's better to DON't downgrade the x-play , cause most of people on that post had problem .
i want to start new way : unlock== > root ==> relock (( i hope after relock my root remain ))

All your looking for is root?
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[Q] gingerbreak xperia play working?;

hi does anyone out there got gingerbreak working on xperia play 2.3.3
without downgrading ROM. and ota. would love to be able to root without flashing to a previousROM as to scared incase of bricking phone.
help would be appreciated. thanks

The exploit that Gingerbreak roots the phone through was patched in the 2.3.3 update. The only other way is to either use the auto root fastboot method, or flash one of doomlords kernels which is prerooted. But obviously, you will need an unlocked bootloader for that
Sent from my R800i using XDA App

Gingerbreak can still be used granting you downgrade to the very first ROM the Xperia PLAY came with, and that's 2.3 then OTA upgrade to keep it updated.
Why are you afraid? It's so damn easy you can use WotanClient or FlashTool. Besides, you will never have to unlock bootloader since you're not up to flashing ROMs and so i presume...

thanks for the reply. shame about gingerbreak not working as that would have been my preferred choice to root.looks like i will have to downgrade ROM at some point. need to get this bloatware off my phone and give me some memory back.
I've flashed roms before on my xperia x10 using flash. which was easy to do and worked
just don't want to brick my brand new fantastically brilliant xperia play.

ATT 4G

Ah so Im about to get xplay from ATT and have been searching and finding more questions than answers. First is, is the ATT 4G version not rooted yet? and can I unlock the boot loader using SE method? and after can I use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201725 in order to have a rooted phone? I came from the X10 scene but just cant quite seem to be able to grasp XPLAY yet... Thanks...

I flashed my AT&T unit with the R800i 2.3.2 firmware, used Gingerbreak, then did the OTA update to 2.3.3. I lost the AT&T bloatware, but I'm rooted with a locked bootloader and can continue to get OTA updates.
Details here.

jdsemler said:
I flashed my AT&T unit with the R800i 2.3.2 firmware, used Gingerbreak, then did the OTA update to 2.3.3. I lost the AT&T bloatware, but I'm rooted with a locked bootloader and can continue to get OTA updates.
Details here.
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+1 on this. Would recommend this method to unlocking your bootloader, only because of the OTA updates. Good luck! ^_^

COOL... The thing is that I dont really care about the OTA updates since someone always manages to dump it and I would just reflash it to my phone. jdsemler would I be able to unlock boot loader? Should I do it after or before the process rooting process? Thanks in advance again...

SO... BUMP...

You must pay to have your bootloader unlock due to it being carrier locked. Search the forum for members who unlock remotely over the net. All that is required is a paperclip and some software that give you. After unlocking, you gain root access by flashing custom roms with root status unlocked (check rom before flashing though just in case there's no root). But remember not to update at all cause you'll brick it.
Sent from my rooted R800a 2.3.3 BL locked

Help Newbie with Nexus One

Hi All, I just got my Nexus one off ebay and it appears its not rooted as i do not see the padlock icon and i also cannot run the nexus torch.
What im looking to do is revert back to the stock software and than do all the OTA updates myself.
Can someone help me with this ? Im not looking to root though.
Im running the ATT version of the Nexus one.
Thanks all for your help.

To be root or not
if you do not see the padlock, then you are root!!

hi, yes i know and i do not see the pad lock so i have a unrooted phone. Im trying to find out how i can install the stock software this way i can do the OTA updates myself.
Thanks

If there's no padlock and you're sure it's not rooted... why do you think it's not already stock?

Well its running gingerbread and i wanted to go back to froyo and than OTA the updates myself

If its not rooted, root it! What version you on currently?
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Im on the Nexus one ATT version, running the most recent gingerbread OS.

2.3.6???
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If it is, try root using this... http://apachejava.blogspot.com/2011/06/root-nexus-one-gingerbread-234.html
My dad using my nexus one, so i dunno much... So, is your bootloader unlock, if it is, then go ahead with the link above... Then S-OFF using BlackRose...
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Check this!!
Might help you.
http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/56512/downgrading-google-nexus-one-from-android-gingerbr.html

If you don't see the padlock it means the bootloader is still locked. If you don't have the SuperUser app then you are more than likely NOT rooted. Sounds like a stock phone if you ask me. Why do you want to roll back to Froyo then update? Sounds like you are already where you want to be. It sounds like a case of reaching around your ass to scratch your elbow. Heh. If you try to OTA update it and it says you are up to date, I would suggest leaving it alone or just root it! Good luck!
Sent from A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!

zinner526 said:
Well its running gingerbread and i wanted to go back to froyo and than OTA the updates myself
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Why? Is there a problem with what is currently installed? If it's working fine, then I would expect downgrading to a previous version and applying the updates would just get you back to where you are now. I'm not criticizing, just trying to understand what you're looking to achieve
If you mean stock as in "original" that isn't Froyo either. The Nexus One originally came with Eclair (2.1). If you don't have root, I'm not sure if you can downgrade or how safe it would be. I've seen mixed results with downgrading. The only way to do a complete flash would be with an unlocked bootloader or root + custom recovery.
If you don't want to root or unlock the bootloader, why not just do a full wipe and use the version you have on it? You could also root it temporarily to restore to an unrooted Eclair or Froyo, then apply the updates.

Thanks Narbir, I'm going to try this. Does it matter I have AT&T ?

I hope So. I m usng Voda uk. Don't really brother me by that.

Well the phone reboots often for no reason so i thought if i started from the factory installed software and go forward it would help.
How hard is it to root to install enclar and than go forward ? Unless someone has another idea for the reboot issue ?

Install the latest stock ROM in PASSIMG format (complete ROM, all the partitions). No need to go back to Eclair or Froyo.
Prepare for the possibility of it not helping at all, and your phone HW being faulty. If you have ADB set up - you can run "adb bugreport" after the crash, and look for "ARM9 has crashed" line in the log dump that comes. If you'll see them - no amount of ROM switching will help.

Not to sound pedantic, but you seem a little confused (OP). Why don't you start by reading the FAQs regarding rooting and unlocking the bootloader, and understanding the ROM installation processes.
Couple of fundamentals to get you started:
1. The padlock (or absence of) is no indication of whether you are rooted or not. It merely indicates whether your 'bootloader' is unlocked or not, which is a completely separate concept from rooting.
2. Easiest method of seeing whether you are rooted is to see if you have the 'SuperUser' app in your app drawer.
If your objective is to install a stock/default ROM, search for a 'PASSIMG' for the latest available firmware for your device. Search these forums or Google it. The procedure is fairly straightforward and only involves putting the file on your SD card - and will restore your phone to a stock usable state.
If you're interested in custom ROMs, the fastest way to get started is to use SuperOneClick to root (Google, please). Then go to the market and download ROM Manager and just follow the instructions!

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