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Gingerbread update tonight question

So the gingerbread update is supposed to come out tonight, and one of the suggestions from moto. Was if your rooted to flash back to to stock software, im on the stock rom and stock everything but with a few rooted apps installed. So should I flash back, or can I just unroot with z4root unroot button. Thanks for the quick reply
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If you care about root, I wouldn't accept the update until they root it. No one knows for sure what exactly will keep the update from working on your phone. If you want the update, Froyo stock unrooted is the safest bet.

There is a thread on what you need in this forum

Thanks for the reply I do want the update, im on the stock froyo with stock kernals. with some rooted apps installed, so I can just hit unroot on z4root and it will uninstall rooted stuff?
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Yes, did you ever flash clockworkmod or bootstrap?
If all you did was root, use z4 to unroot.
sent from a sweet paper weight.

Yeah never flashed with clockwork or anything, the most I did was change the boot animation using root tools but I put it back to the stock one, been waiting for gibgerbread for awhile lol
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Cool thanks for advice, unrooted my phone and will wait for update
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You may not be able to get it rooted however. Be careful

Still telling me update not available .. I'm guessing its due to me deleting the bloat wares.. I've not flashed or cloaked worked anything.. Just root. Delete wares..

Before Froyo, I was rooted and stock everything. (I really just wanted wi-fi tether and titanium backup). the OTA still worked fine, obviously I lost root, but I didn't lose anything else. Assuming you haven't flashed a new rom nor deleted stock apps, you should be fine. I don't think there's a way for the OTA to differentiate phones if they have the same basebands...

Ok this explains a lot...
If people aren't able to update.. this maybe why..
Copy and past this link.. i dont have enough posts to link to it.. ±★★gottabemobile.com/2011/05/27/droid-x-gingerbread-update-rolling-out-tonight-but-not-for-everyone

bucktoothzombie said:
Still telling me update not available .. I'm guessing its due to me deleting the bloat wares.. I've not flashed or cloaked worked anything.. Just root. Delete wares..
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Be careful. You won't be able to upgrade if you deleted bloatware as it checks for system integrity before updating.

Thanks for testing it for us! Running nice and stable on apex, going wait and see if the new "bugs" are worth updating to.

[Q] Update to 2.3.3 after Rooting?

Hi, I've been looking around several threads but it was hard to find an answer.
My new Xperia Play phone should be arriving any day now, so I'm just getting everything ready tutorial-wise for rooting my phone. However I'm unclear on a few things!
Firstly, once I have unlocked the bootloader, a certain tutorial tells me to use 'play_modded.img' as the necessary root package to root my phone. Are there different root packages for the Xperia Play or just one?
Second, once I have rooted my phone, should I update to 2.3.3 firmware? Should I update to 2.3.3 before I begin rooting? Or is it not possible to root the 2.3.3 software at the moment and so just stay with 2.3.2?
What are the differences with the firmware updates and are they necessary?
Thirdly, being from the UK I am pretty sure that my phone is R800i, is there anything I need to take into consideration when rooting for having an Xperia from a specific region?
I hope you guys can help and sorry for the noobish questions, this is my first smartphone (and a good choice, I hope!).

Don't update if you unlocked your bootloader.... Your play will probably come as 2.3.3 already. So you need to flash it to 2.3.2 uk generic WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader. Root the 2.3.2 and then update to 2.3.3 through phone (ota, without hooking it up to computer at all)
Sent from my XPlay using XDA App.

Never do any ota updates through phone if you decided to unlock the bootloader. As of now there is no reason to unlock bootloader because cm7 is not ready yet.
Sent from my XPlay using XDA App.

What is 'Ota'? I'm more confused now!
Also, what is 'cm7'?
Why are you saying there is no reason to unlock the bootloader, is this not the first step in order to root your phone?

If you only want root, then no. You need to root with gingerbreak, but it will only work with 2.3.2
Maybe it would be best if you checked in again when you receive your play then it will be easier to guide you?
If the play is on 2.3.2 it will be very easy and if it's on 2.3.3 it will take some more work.
OTA is over the air, it just means that you can update over 3g or on wifi, no need of a cmputer
As i see it you'll get the best out of just rooting for now and through that get some knowledge and learn a bit of basics with android modding
Regards Dousan...

Thanks Dousan, it's making a lot more sense now!
I heard that 2.3.3 fixes quite a lot of bugs, so will rooting on 2.3.2 and remaining on a rooted 2.3.2 not be a disadvantage?
I checked out what CM7 project was all about, a custom rom? It sounds really good, I'm genuinely excited about all the added features!
Could someone please link me to a good tutorial on how to use Gingerbreak with the Xperia Play?
Are there any disadvantages of rooting the Xperia Play at the minute (other than the chance of a brick)?
Once rooted, does the custom .img flashed to the phone contain any bloatware? Is there a guide on how to remove the bloatware and other tricks to speed up the phone, customizing it to make it better?
I presume that flashing the new .img to the phone will cause the pre-installed free games such as Crash Bandicoot to be erased, is there any way to keep them?

First see here. <-- is a guide to root the xplay with a locked bootloader and still be able to update to 2.3.3.
You do not have to stay on 2.3.2 once you have rooted. But rooting will only work on 2.3.2 since in 2.3.3 the exploit gingerbreak uses was patched. But if you follow the guide in the link above. You can use gingerbreak on 2.3.2 then use OTA (not seus or pc companion) to update and it will keep your root access and upgrade you to 2.3.3.
To install CM7 you will need an unlocked bootloader. I plan to install it when a stable version is released. My bootloader is still locked atm. So its a case of just unlocking the bootloader when CM7 is stable and installing it. I would keep your bootloader locked untill you have a bit more experience (since you could brick your phone if you use SEUS or OTA or PC Comapnion to update once the bootloader is unlocked)
No need for a tutorial for gingerbreak. Simply put the Gingerbreak.apk on your sd card then use a file manager such as astro to navigate to it. Open it and just click the root button (for some people it took 20+ mins, in my case was like 1 minute).
No real disadvantages to rooting. Rooting will not damage your phone at all. Since all you are doing is gaining admin rights, it what you do after root that could semi-brick it. As long as your bootloader is locked you can use SEUS to fully repair the phone from brick anyways (which is highly unlikely to happen) Just see here for stuff that is safe to remove after root and you will be ok.
You are not flashing the .img since thats for people with an unlocked bootloader. Just follow the guide at the top of my post and all will be good. If you remove/freeze the bloat your phone will run better anyways. Since rooting and freezing bloat anything i have thrown at my phone has caused it no problems apart from some games on FPSE.

i used the above guide and im now on rooted 2.3.3
and yea i stupidy semi-bricked mine i forgot to put usb debugging on before flashing ha but yea seus update sorted that out
flashed again, rooted, then OTA update

How to keep root after an OTA update

If you would like to OTA your phone to 2.3.3 etc, then download an app called "OTA RootKeeper" from the Android Market.
This app backups your root files, and then after the OTA you can recover the files and your phone will be rooted. Worked fine on my Xperia Play r800x and my bro's Droid X. Let me know if it worked or not.
PS!! Not sure if the app is available for download in Europe, but it definitely is North America.
Edit: On some OTA's it keeps root but on some it doesn't, this app just a guarantee that it will keep root, and plus I'm just trying to help

But we really have kept root by doing OTA and not PC Companion update since the time of Gingerbreak without even using a 3rd-party app.. Why?

narflynn619 said:
But we really have kept root by doing OTA and not PC Companion update since the time of Gingerbreak without even using a 3rd-party app.. Why?
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I know but this app is like the easiest method ever to keep root but I see what ur saying
Sent from my R800x using XDA App

good find but still it's not that good if it can't keep root if you update via PC Companion. or does it?

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good find but still it's not that good if it can't keep root if you update via PC Companion. or does it?
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I'm not really sure because I have The r800x and PC Companion don't work with for That model but as long as it doesn't wipe your data it should work
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I dont understand because when i ota i automaticly have root.

that's exactly my point..

Everybody with a play retain root when updating OTA. That's why so many is awaiting the OTA whenever there's an update
Regards Dousan...

Yea you won't really need to back up with third party app if your are ota updating. It keeps everything the way it is...
Sent from my XPlay using XDA App.

Deoxlar said:
Yea you won't really need to back up with third party app if your are ota updating. It keeps everything the way it is...
Sent from my XPlay using XDA App.
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On some updates it does and some it doesn't, because my bro use to have a Xperia Play, he had 2.3.2 root, then he update to 2.3.3 and the root was gone, but this app is a guarantee that you will keep root, you kno y take the risk of losing it

Wierd becuase when i had root 2.3.2 and ota updated to 2.3.3 i had root still

And plus I've read some topics that are about OTA and root, just browse the Q&A and look for some related to both
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Will do, thanks for the info

Im kinda confused. . I unlocked my bootloader and used an update.zip to install super user. apk. Im rooted 2.3.2 , Can I use verizons ota upate to 2.3.3 because I thought that would mess up my phone. Is it safe to ota?

droiddrums said:
Im kinda confused. . I unlocked my bootloader and used an update.zip to install super user. apk. Im rooted 2.3.2 , Can I use verizons ota upate to 2.3.3 because I thought that would mess up my phone. Is it safe to ota?
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No it's not safe to update with an unlocked bootloader, it'll brick your phone.
Either lock the bootloader (don't know how on a R800x) and then update OTA or find a ftf file of that new update from verizon and flash it with flashtool and then root as you did on 2.3.2. Make a backup of you apps/data prior to flashing.
Regards Dousan...

droiddrums said:
Im kinda confused. . I unlocked my bootloader and used an update.zip to install super user. apk. Im rooted 2.3.2 , Can I use verizons ota upate to 2.3.3 because I thought that would mess up my phone. Is it safe to ota?
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This is what i did, if you have any uninstalled system apps then you have to flash the verizon ftf, but dont wipe the data, then you lock the bootloader, download the OTA rootkeeper app, back up your root, then just OTA to 2.3.3, and finallly just restore root via the ota rootkeeper app.
so far i am satisfied with the verizon 2.3.3 update, it took out some really annoying things about 2.3.2, so definitely OTA

hmm, maybe I will try this later, I wasnt sure if it even would make a big difference.
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izink said:
This is what i did, if you have any uninstalled system apps then you have to flash the verizon ftf, but dont wipe the data, then you lock the bootloader, download the OTA rootkeeper app, back up your root, then just OTA to 2.3.3, and finallly just restore root via the ota rootkeeper app.
so far i am satisfied with the verizon 2.3.3 update, it took out some really annoying things about 2.3.2, so definitely OTA
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Ok, and After all of this I would be rooted 2.3.3 with a Locked Bootloader?
Nvm , Just flashed a 2.3.3 sys img from state of development page

ATT 4G

Ah so Im about to get xplay from ATT and have been searching and finding more questions than answers. First is, is the ATT 4G version not rooted yet? and can I unlock the boot loader using SE method? and after can I use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201725 in order to have a rooted phone? I came from the X10 scene but just cant quite seem to be able to grasp XPLAY yet... Thanks...

I flashed my AT&T unit with the R800i 2.3.2 firmware, used Gingerbreak, then did the OTA update to 2.3.3. I lost the AT&T bloatware, but I'm rooted with a locked bootloader and can continue to get OTA updates.
Details here.

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I flashed my AT&T unit with the R800i 2.3.2 firmware, used Gingerbreak, then did the OTA update to 2.3.3. I lost the AT&T bloatware, but I'm rooted with a locked bootloader and can continue to get OTA updates.
Details here.
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+1 on this. Would recommend this method to unlocking your bootloader, only because of the OTA updates. Good luck! ^_^

COOL... The thing is that I dont really care about the OTA updates since someone always manages to dump it and I would just reflash it to my phone. jdsemler would I be able to unlock boot loader? Should I do it after or before the process rooting process? Thanks in advance again...

SO... BUMP...

You must pay to have your bootloader unlock due to it being carrier locked. Search the forum for members who unlock remotely over the net. All that is required is a paperclip and some software that give you. After unlocking, you gain root access by flashing custom roms with root status unlocked (check rom before flashing though just in case there's no root). But remember not to update at all cause you'll brick it.
Sent from my rooted R800a 2.3.3 BL locked

original g2 rom

so i had to go back to my first original rom that i backed up when i first rooted my g2 by using visionary. as soon as i installed my back up it showed that i had a update. i have android 2.2 so im sure its the 2.3 update,
well my question is if i update it will that unroot my phone and uninstall my rooted apps?? and if it does unroot me can tmobile track that it was rooted it?
keeps asking me over and over to update it
thanks alot , sorry if this been posted before, i couldn't find it if it was

Yes it will unroot it, if it is the 2.3 update, if you removed stock apps it will attempt and fail. Just update to a pre-rooted 2.3 end of problem. If you search there is other possible alternatives.

thanks alot, one last question, so if i want to unroot my phone at some point, i just uninstall my root apps and do the 2.3.3 update? will tmobile ever know if it was rooted by doing it this way?