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Ok I am going to ask this question once, state all your opinions don't hold back and people please do not start a flame war. Be civilized and to each their own opinion, we are technically the same android family and also both use T-Mobile.
G2 or myTouch 4G?
Pros and Cons
Asking this in both forum sections... wish we could have the same thread in both sections.
{Edit- link to G2 forums thread same topic | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831505}
There are plenty of reviews/comparisons out on the web. It's really personal opinion.
Do you want a physical kb? That's one big difference been the 2. The myTouch is candybar style, thin & "sexy", while the G2 is bulky in comparison sure to the physical kb, and the hinge mechanism is strange and loose whether you'd hold it in a way to notice or not.
Also, if you put value on it - Quadrant score on mT4G was about 100 higher than G2
Do you really want stock Android, or would you be happy with Espresso or a replacement launcher?
Again, it's really personal choice. Both are top T-Mob offerings right now and people are very happy with both. Personally, I don't like physical kbs and the bulk they add, and think HTC made a poor choice with the G2 in using an odd hinge vs something similar to the mT3G Slide.
For sure, the 4G is a sweet phone, a beast under the hood, and feels both sleek and solid in your hand. Also got OTA to 2.2.1 within hours of walking out of store.
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Its going to be a close discussion. I would prefer the phsyical keyboard and vanilla Android of the G2, but that wonky hinge makes me edgy.
I'm leaning towards the MT4G myself, the Sense/Espresso UI can likely be removed once full root is achieved.
I went off contract last month and have been using a G1 for the past 2 years. When I was looking at phones I came close to purchasing the G2 but the hinge seemed awkward, so decided to do some research on the G2.
Read a lot, not just a few complaints about the hinge, random boots, lose of data, and dropped connections for the phone. The complaints about the G2 really turned me off from buying it. The complaints about the My Touch 4G seem to be mostly personal preference about the UI, with the phone itself being reliable.
So the My Touch 4G it was. I won't receive it until Monday, so I can't comment on how much I will like or dislike it.
I also had a G1, until yesterday. So far I have to say I am thrilled with the My Touch.
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myTouch 4G hands down. I have both and I'm almost tempted to sell my G2 now.
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I would go with the mytouch as well. Here are my thoughts from another thread.
I'm gonna keep using both but the mytouch is the superior phone. For me, the overall function of the mytouch is the reason. There are some things that the vibrant does do better though - 1. The samoled on the vibrant is definitely better (I love the true blacks and contrast ratio on this thing) 2. The speakers are also noticeably better with richer and fuller sound 3. The GPU is also more capable 4. Audio quality for media is better (mytouch and HTC phones in general have too much bass and not enough detail) 5. The camera while lacking flash is more capable 5. The multitouch, responsiveness, and feel of the screen is better 6. And the last thing is the notification bar is the best I've seen on an Android phone (the ability to have those toggle settings, change brightness by swiping, and change music tracks are amazing). Everything else, the mytouch does better. 1) GPS is much better 2) Solid feel while the vibrant felt plastic and creaked 3)FFC 3. Camera flash 4. Froyo 5. Optical trackpad 6. Much better battery life 7. The user experience is buttery smooth with little or no lag on this thing 8. The notification led
Wow sorry for the essay guys, got a little carried away haha.
I bought the MT4G and LOVE the hardware, but Sense is pissing me off so much that I'm thinking of returning it for the G2.
Phateless said:
I bought the MT4G and LOVE the hardware, but Sense is pissing me off so much that I'm thinking of returning it for the G2.
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You could install LP or ADW maybe?
Bateluer said:
You could install LP or ADW maybe?
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Actually not a bad idea, but I don't think it'll get rid of all of the Sense stuff...
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Actually not a bad idea, but I don't think it'll get rid of all of the Sense stuff...
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I'm debating between the two phones myself, would like to see some screens of what the MT4G looks like with LP/ADW with a stock look.
Regardless, I'm not going to buy either until they have full root. In one of the G2 threads, some one's posted about how newer G2s have a modified hinge design with a spring.
Patience, Patience. :-/
Functionality wise the MT4G has it all. Gps inside my house was within 4 meters almost instantly. The htc widgets are just pure win aswell. I thought about the G2 but the hinge on the model phone at tmobile was so loose if you turned the phone on its side the keyboard would fall open by itself so it was an easy decision for me right there to go with the MT4G.
Doh! I just noticed that I talked about the vibrant vs the mytouch instead of the g2. This is really a hard choice as both phones are great and geared towards different crowds. G2 is for the pure android enthusiast that loves or needs the physical keyboard. Mytouch is more for the casual crowd. I would personally go with the mytouch for its slimmer profile, FFC, toucscreen seems to respond and feel a little better, stock 1ghz processor vs 800mhz, and 768mb ram vs 512mb. The g2 has a better look IMO, physical keyboard if you prefer, stock android for faster updates, and the screen seems to be a little more saturated.
There is a new 3 part review on youtube of the mytouch vs g2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X6aaOXvEno&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
I actually bought the G2, and 24 hrs later I returned it and got the MT4G. I have absolutely 0 buyer's remorse.
I loved the G2, but the problem was the hinge. After just one day, it would open just by breathing on it. I couldn't stand it. While there are some things I wish the MT4G had from the G2, overall, because of the hinge, the MT4G is the winner.
Elfabaa said:
I actually bought the G2, and 24 hrs later I returned it and got the MT4G. I have absolutely 0 buyer's remorse.
I loved the G2, but the problem was the hinge. After just one day, it would open just by breathing on it. I couldn't stand it. While there are some things I wish the MT4G had from the G2, overall, because of the hinge, the MT4G is the winner.
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Funny you say that because I picked up the MT4G on Saturday and am thinking about returning it for the G2 because I don't like Sense. Part of the reason I chose the MT4G was the hinge issue you mentioned. I would never use the keyboard anyway so it seemed silly to buy a phone that had one.
MT4G
Totally feel your pain cause I was in the same boat. Had the Nexus for almost a year until I replaced it with the G2.
I really like how the G2 lies in your hand when you're browsing the web in landscape mode with the keyboard out although I'm not a huge fan of the keyboard mainly because it doesn't have dedicated number keys and the size of it makes typing slower and more strenuous than on the G1 (which I had before the Nexus).
I was also a bit annoyed by the way the keyboard backlighting kept turning itself on and off in medium light conditions without having the option to have it always on when the keyboard is used.
The hinge is a big question mark with some disaster potential. I guess only time will tell. Having said that I didn't mind the looseness too much. I also really like the slick business look to the G2 although it is definitely bulky when compared to my nexus or the MT4G. Overall it's an awesome device though and I definitely grew font of it during the 3 weeks I owned it.
When the MT4G came out I decided to give it a try cause I still had 10 days in my remorse period. The genius button and mysense took some getting used to. Definitely prefer vanilla android. LauncherPro, visionary, and Titanium Backup helped me remove a lot of crap and get a bit more vanilla flare back although there are also certain things I like better about the sense UI (copy/paste, eMail app, facebook app,)
I like the camera app better on the MT4G. Simply takes better pictures. FFC isnt a big deal for me but certainly doesn't hurt.
I definitely miss the soft buttons on the MT4G. The plastic hard buttons feel a little cheap and I would prefer not having to actually click them. I guess its cause I've been so used to the Nexus. I also agree with parts of the Engadget review about the lag of aesthetics. Overall the MT4G feels a lot thinner and smaller though which was what won me over.
Verdict:
I still have 4 days left in my remorse period but decided to keep the MT4G. Both are good devices so it totally depends on what you want. In the end it was the thinness that won me over to the MT4G and the black looks actually quite slick. Good luck deciding and just remember, you really can't go wrong with either one.
I'm not a sense fan either, I use launcher pro plus. I got this setup like my nexus, fast too. And I use widget lock screen app
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Wanna define what you mean by "all the sense stuff"? Not saying it applies to you but sometimes I get the feeling people say they dislike sense because they have read so many times that stock is better without really knowing what the difference is.
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Wanna define what you mean by "all the sense stuff"? Not saying it applies to you but sometimes I get the feeling people say they dislike sense because they have read so many times that stock is better without really knowing what the difference is.
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I'm not a fan of any UI overlays. None really seem to add much to the Android OS that isn't already there, but they do slow OS updates to a crawl. Even with their faults, HTC pushes more updates to their Sense phones than other manufacturers.
I spoke with a VZW rep this afternoon, sent them an email inquiring about cancellations and what the penalties would be. They offered me an early upgrade, but when I told them I was more interested in a stock Android device, the rep told me that I should wait until after Thanksgiving because they may be better able to help me then.
I didn't exactly plan on buying a MT4G/G2 next week, but this does have me curious.
Ok I am going to ask this question once, state all your opinions don't hold back and people please do not start a flame war. Be civilized and to each their own opinion, we are technically the same android family and also both use T-Mobile.
myTouch 4G or G2?
Pros and Cons
Asking this in both forum sections... wish we could have the same thread in both sections.
{Edit- link to myTouch 4G forums thread same topic | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831502}
Dude this topic has been discussed to the...I will suggest go with what your heart says, they are both good phones so what ever makes you feel excited, no phone is perfect and will have u desire more and that's exactly the point when they design these phones. For me G2 being stock is reason enough every else is welcome bonus.
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G2 because it doesn't look like ass. That Genius button would annoy the hell out of me too. Looks so stupid and useless.
Engadget did a great review on both the G2 and the myTouch 4G.
After reading them both, I am glad I went with the G2 instead of the 4G.
Read it for yourself and maybe it'll help you in your decision.
There has already been a thread on this specific topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830569
Depends on you really. Your needs and style is what should influence you the most. For me, I got the g2 it does everything I need, and I know that the extra features will be unnoticeable or unused for the mt4g.
I have both in front of me - and I'm 100% in the "G2" team. The MT4G looks slick, but they have tweaked and modded Android to the point where it just pisses me off.
Every single app has something stock android doesn't do. After coming from the N1, the G2 feels the most like it, but the MT4G is in a league of its own. I'm sure it has a following, but it sure as hell isn't designed for people who like to tinker with their devices.
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I have both in front of me - and I'm 100% in the "G2" team. The MT4G looks slick, but they have tweaked and modded Android to the point where it just pisses me off.
Every single app has something stock android doesn't do. After coming from the N1, the G2 feels the most like it, but the MT4G is in a league of its own. I'm sure it has a following, but it sure as hell isn't designed for people who like to tinker with their devices.
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I have both phones in front of me, and I've been playing with them for a few days. I came from a G1 and I thought that G2 would be the one for me, but I just don't get it. How is the G2 so much more customizable than than MT4G? Sure it has a physical keyboard, so it's got more in that sense, but as far as OS features go I just don't see a huge difference. On the con side it has extra bulk/thickness. The hinges are prone to failure and it's missing the FFC. I actually think G2 should be more customizable than stock allows. I like Cyanogen roms, so if the MT4G can be rooted and Cyanogen supported then there is no question that MT4G would be a better phone for me. Even without Cyanogen and full root I'd say that MT4G is a tiny bit better. They're even phones at the least.
By the way, you're going to get people that are biased towards the G2 on this thread, and you will get people that are biased towards the MT4G on the MT4G thread. You will also see that bias in the poll.
I like the g2 because I really don't like the way the camera is on the mytouch.. they fact that its raised on the back of the device just annoys me and it feels like u would scratch the lens way too easily. I also like the build quality of the g2 better than the mytouch
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MT4G
Totally feel your pain cause I was in the same boat. Had the Nexus for almost a year until I replaced it with the G2.
I really like how the G2 lies in your hand when you're browsing the web in landscape mode with the keyboard out. I'm not a huge fan of the keyboard mainly because it doesn't have dedicated number keys and the size of it makes typing slower and more strenuous than on the G1 (which I had before the Nexus).
I was also a bit annoyed by the way the keyboard backlighting kept turning itself on and off in medium light conditions without having the option to have it always on when the keyboard is used.
The hinge is a big question mark with some disaster potential. I guess only time will tell. Having said that I didn't mind the looseness too much. I also really like the slick business look to the G2 although it is definitely bulky when compared to my nexus or the MT4G. Overall it's an awesome device though and I definitely grew font of it during the 3 weeks I owned it.
When the MT4G came out I decided to give it a try cause I still had 10 days in my remorse period. The genius button and mysense took some getting used to. Definitely prefer vanilla android. LauncherPro, visionary, and Titanium Backup helped me remove a lot of crap and get a bit more vanilla flare back although there are also certain things I like better about the sense UI (copy/paste, eMail app, facebook app,)
I like the camera app better on the MT4G. Simply takes better pictures. FFC isnt a big deal for me but certainly doesn't hurt.
I definitely miss the soft buttons on the MT4G. The plastic hard buttons feel a little cheap and I would prefer not having to actually click them. I guess its cause I've been so used to the Nexus. I also agree with parts of the Engadget review about the lag of aesthetics. Overall the MT4G feels a lot thinner and smaller though which was what won me over.
Verdict:
I still have 4 days left in my remorse period but decided to keep the MT4G. Both are good devices so it totally depends on what you want. In the end it was the thinness that won me over to the MT4G and the black looks actually quite slick. Good luck deciding and just remember, you really can't go wrong with either one.
G2. Better UI. No silly MySense interface that MT4G has. Only good thing about the MT4G is the FF camera but so be it. G2 is the best way to go if your looking to get something for grown up (in a sense).
after messing with my little sisters mytouch i told her how much i didn't like it and she said i don't care i can talk text and video chat. then i asked video chat with who? and she walked away ha.
the my touch seems like it's just geared more towards highschool girls
keyboard vs touchkeys only. best looking device ever vs mytouch line of plastic cheapo. love the commercials tho
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smirkis said:
keyboard vs touchkeys only. best looking device ever vs mytouch line of plastic cheapo. love the commercials tho
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have you held a mytouch 4g? its nothing like the old ones, i had a g2 and returned it for a mytouch, they feel the same solid in my hand....well actually with no loose hinge wiggle, the mytouch feels better built
And best looking is very subjective....when i had the g2 and vibrant at the same time, my friends saw the g2 as a downgrade in the looks department
I was looking on the site and out of the 4g and droid phones this says it comes with 2.2. I guess a good way to get people on board with that phone.
Yep. HTC has 2.2 on both of their EVO phones. And Sprint keeps putting all of their advertising money behind them. And we can't seem to get an update. This isn't really new.
nah, most people don't know what 2.2 or 2.1 is etc. They just want a phone. I had the shift and took it back for my epic.
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nah, most people don't know what 2.2 or 2.1 is etc. They just want a phone. I had the shift and took it back for my epic.
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I'm interested to know what you didn't like about the Shift.
Personally, the ONLY reason I picked the Epic over the EVO was the slide out keyboard. I had only held a touch screen device once before, and couldn't get the hang of the android keyboard, so I wanted the option of a physical keyboard- if nothing else just to try them both out and see which one I took to better.
I find that I use either one depending on situations. So if I have the choice in the future on different devices I think I'll always grab the one with the physical keyboard. But this whole 2.2 issue is really giving Samsung a bad taste with me.
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I'm interested to know what you didn't like about the Shift.
Personally, the ONLY reason I picked the Epic over the EVO was the slide out keyboard. I had only held a touch screen device once before, and couldn't get the hang of the android keyboard, so I wanted the option of a physical keyboard- if nothing else just to try them both out and see which one I took to better.
I find that I use either one depending on situations. So if I have the choice in the future on different devices I think I'll always grab the one with the physical keyboard. But this whole 2.2 issue is really giving Samsung a bad taste with me.
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The shift was a good phone, it felt more solid than the Epic. I like the keyboard better except for no number row on the keyboard. I wanted a bigger screen and a keyboard. Not to mention the screen of the epic was a lot better.
Plus the shift feels like it has more lag before doing what you tell it to do. It reminded me of the lag that the stock hero has, but not as bad.
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The shift was a good phone, it felt more solid than the Epic. I like the keyboard better except for no number row on the keyboard. I wanted a bigger screen and a keyboard. Not to mention the screen of the epic was a lot better.
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I dunno. It was definitely heavier than even the Moment was and that was a brick. The slide-out keyboard felt like it could get stuck in any position and broken off if you put it in a bag or pocket wrong. It's not spring loaded like the Epic and Moment, it uses friction.
I like the feel of the Epic the best so far.
The shift is a great phone if you're coming from a moment or intercept. doesn't feel like an upgrade from the Epic or the EVO for that matter. My wife has the EVO shift and she loves it and its a good phone but it just comes off as a phone not on the level of the other elite sprint phones
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I've spent a bit of time with it and the Shift seems like an excellent little phone. The Epic is better hardware-wise but for the price point the shift is pretty hard to beat right now. HTC is just better with software updates than Samsung..but Samsung's hardware is better.
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I dunno. It was definitely heavier than even the Moment was and that was a brick. The slide-out keyboard felt like it could get stuck in any position and broken off if you put it in a bag or pocket wrong. It's not spring loaded like the Epic and Moment, it uses friction.
I like the feel of the Epic the best so far.
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yes, very heavy phone. I liked how the keyboard slid out better than my Epic, felt more solid and probably will last longer than the spring. the Shift is pretty fast too. Faster than the EVO . I was getting 1300-1500 Quadrant out of the box. I really don't like Sense either. But I usually use ADW or LP so that doesn't really matter
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yes, very heavy phone. I liked how the keyboard slid out better than my Epic, felt more solid and probably will last longer than the spring. the Shift is pretty fast too. Faster than the EVO . I was getting 1300-1500 Quadrant out of the box. I really don't like Sense either. But I usually use ADW or LP so that doesn't really matter
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The screen is the deal breaker for me on the Shift. Going from the Evo to the Epic I was a little annoyed by the smaller screen and looking at the Shifts screen I just said forget it. I use Qik as well and of course the lack of the front facing camera makes that difficult. Again I want to make sure that it's clear that I think the Shift is a very good phone. It's just not on the level of the Evo or Epic
This was made as a "cheaper" version of the Evo with 700 MHZ instead of 1k etc., so yeah, this phone is ok, but the Epic blew it away specs-wise. I looked at both, didn't see a point in getting 2.2 if it came on a crappier phone in my opinion....I thought this phone blew away the shift.
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This was made as a "cheaper" version of the Evo with 700 MHZ instead of 1k etc., so yeah, this phone is ok, but the Epic blew it away specs-wise. I looked at both, didn't see a point in getting 2.2 if it came on a crappier phone in my opinion....I thought this phone blew away the shift.
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The 700 mhz on the Shift is faster than the EVO due to it being 2nd generation procerssor.
You do know the procesor is a scorpion based snapdragon and clock speed is not the end all. The Shift is a ver nice phone. I own it as well as the Epic. No, there is no lag. It's pretty peppy. The keyboard mech is similar to the Droid's. It's solid and probabl a bit more reliable than the Epic's. If you're used to treos and bb's you won't have an issue with the lack of a dedicated # row. It's the rest of the fn symbols that are an issue. Thre is just zero standard for placement. The synbol key on the spacebar is dumb. The fn key below the shift key is dumb. Do we need a redunant menu button? No.
Other than that, the keys and spacing are really nice and samsung could take note. The linear key spacing, smooth keys and redundant capcative buttons are thbe keyboard reall kill the keyboard on the epic. I type well on it, but I could've been so much better. It's like they tried to screw it up.
The screen is just ok, and if you want a 3.6" screen, it's fine. It's the same thickness and weight (relative) as the epic. The build feels more solid, but that's the difference between metal and plastic. At least for it being a chunk, they tapered the back nicely so it fits well in the hand. HTC's software is definitely the most polished so for the android idiots it is a better out of the box experience. If you customize it doesn't matter. I do like the toggles in the drop down menu a ton. You need switchpro on a homescreen with the shift. You lose the nice 4g toggle widget if you don't use the stock launcher and have to turn to the market. Switchpro has no 4g toggle yet for it even though it has one for the evo. Lame. Still no push on HTC's stock mail so you're still looking to maildroid or k9. Don't get the dissing of imap idle for stock mail.
Battery life was fine. Not "noticably" better than the Epic. Think it's the evo battery so it should be better with the smaller screen and lower clock speed on the processor.
All in all, if the evo and epic are too big, it's a great phone. Not everyone wants to carry a phone the size of the evo and epic. Outside of the front camera and hdmi out, it can hang with the big boys no problem. I you think differently you're probably biased and only played with it for minutes.
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The shift is the sprint desire z
The 800 mhz UNDERCLOCKED processor is the second gen snapdragon and is actually better stock than the EVOs 1ghz. Its also able to be overclocked to a stable 1.8 ghz...the hummingbird is better hz for hz but the shift is no slouch...
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Oh yea forgot it was made by htc and not samsung. WOW I feel stupid now.
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I'm interested to know what you didn't like about the Shift.
Personally, the ONLY reason I picked the Epic over the EVO was the slide out keyboard. I had only held a touch screen device once before, and couldn't get the hang of the android keyboard, so I wanted the option of a physical keyboard- if nothing else just to try them both out and see which one I took to better.
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Checked out a shift the other day, and (this is purely personal taste, like whether you like escargot or not), I really didn't like the keyboard compared to the Epic.
The Epic has a spring-loaded, easily sliding kbd. I can pop it open and closed with my thumb.
The swift has, instead, a friction mechanism that feels like an oil-damped hinge, and requires both hands to open fully. No spring action. I really hated it.
The design used by Sammy has it's issues (gets loose, wobbles a little), but that is in part a result of the low-friction slider design.
I'd rather put up with those inevitable functional tradeoffs and have the pop-open/closed slider than the more solid-feeling mechanism of the swift that requires much more effort (and inconvenience) to open.
I have had the desire Z for 2 months now.. love it really.
Except a few things..:
1) it's weight.. this is just the biggest turn-off for me. I like traveling lightweight and I thought I'd get used to it but right now I really just prefer a lighter phone..
2) Do i really need the keyboard? it feels good to use the keyboard to type, yes, but there are times where I tried the onscreen keyboard and it worked too, and I don't think I was much slower.
3) The hinge just feels too loose.. makes the device feel cheap. I dont like having the feeling that my front screen will fall out anytime.
4) No frontfacing camera. I will be traveling abroad next semester, and the option to be able to see my family while I'm outside is nice.
Now there are things I really like and will miss if I trade this phone in:
1) the trackpad. I just love it! I use it to wake up my phone now. I use it to slide across my screens on launcherpro just because it's so fun. I really am thinking of keep it just for the safe of the trackpad. I also find the trackpad to be the easiest button for picture taking.
2) the keyboard allows you to see the screen while inputting, instead of the white input screen.
3) camera button for quick access to camera!
Well i'm currently still deciding.. the lightweight desire S is really attractive to me right now.. but I want the trackpad so bad.. sigh.. anyone here experienced how moving away from this phone is like?
I have thought about this as well, I really like the look and feel of the desire s. But and its a big but, I wouldn't only get one when the bootloader has been cracked. I don't like sense very much, so cm7 or another aosp build is a must for me.
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Well it is a more powerful phone, and it looks like it may meet more of your needs.
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Ya Trade it.
If keyboard is not important then get the Desire S.
I hate how heavy my Desire Z is with 1800 battery but i need keyboard....
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I have had the desire Z for 2 months now.. love it really.
Except a few things..:
1) it's weight.. this is just the biggest turn-off for me. I like traveling lightweight and I thought I'd get used to it but right now I really just prefer a lighter phone..
2) Do i really need the keyboard? it feels good to use the keyboard to type, yes, but there are times where I tried the onscreen keyboard and it worked too, and I don't think I was much slower.
3) The hinge just feels too loose.. makes the device feel cheap. I dont like having the feeling that my front screen will fall out anytime.
4) No frontfacing camera. I will be traveling abroad next semester, and the option to be able to see my family while I'm outside is nice.
Now there are things I really like and will miss if I trade this phone in:
1) the trackpad. I just love it! I use it to wake up my phone now. I use it to slide across my screens on launcherpro just because it's so fun. I really am thinking of keep it just for the safe of the trackpad. I also find the trackpad to be the easiest button for picture taking.
2) the keyboard allows you to see the screen while inputting, instead of the white input screen.
3) camera button for quick access to camera!
Well i'm currently still deciding.. the lightweight desire S is really attractive to me right now.. but I want the trackpad so bad.. sigh.. anyone here experienced how moving away from this phone is like?
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I will answer your question, how does it feel moving away from this phone? - Miserable - Simple one word... Well... I haven't 100% moved away from my G2/DZ, I just needed one thing which this phone doesn't have, a Front Facing Camera, it was more important to me than to have a physical keyboard... and hence I purchased Moto Atrix. Great phone and all the goodies as higher res screen, dual core processor, etc... but nothing as much fun as owning a G2/DZ.
You can mod your G2/DZ, you get the sturdy and rock solid feel holding this phone in your hand, you have the DLNA support and also you can OverClock your phone...
I don't know how Desire S really feels so no comments.
If you don'r really like the heft, you don't really need the keyboard, go for any other phone, I am sure all the new phone have some or the other advantage over G2/DZ.
Note : Since I love this phone too much, i haven't let it go, i have it as my other phone, which I don't carry with me, but I usually play with my phone as soon as I get home... it becomes primary
GF's Desire S is a nice piece of kit. If you don't want a keyboard, I'd trade it. it's definitely zippier. Not enough to make me want to upgrade out of contract, though.
How about the htc sensation... that looks nice its a bit bigger though lol
I'm not sure if I can wait that long for the sensation though
Plus even the desire Z's cpu has been enough for my needs.. I don't really know why i would need duo-core.. unless it improves the battery dramatically which will be a different story.
Today I will meet someone who may want to buy my desire Z.
If it's sold today then I shall move to the next phone. If not, then I'll just keep it.
Just wish it was a bit lighter..
Getting a Desire S is, with all due respect, a pretty bad idea unless you can get it for very cheap.
I can understand your reasons for disliking the DZ, but the DS has nearly identical specs and there has been a big leap in processing power, especially now with the SGS2's Exynos processor which is a huge step up from the DZ's MSM7230.
The DS's specs were antiquated when it was released. If thos matters to you, you might want to look elsewhere
ive always been told if your gonna do something, do it right dont go and buy the desire s on a whim when the sensation is just around the corner lol
id save my money, keep the desire z if theres nothing wrong with it and when the sensation does come out, try it out before you buy it, if you dont like it then go for the desire s... the desire s will be cheaper then as well... so its win win
Yeah, Sensation is supposed to be out this or the next month, and even though I would say Desire S is a great phone and a viable replacement I would do at least, Sensation going retail in so short timespan is rendering it obsolete. Furthermore, I can hardly imagine that Desire S will get the developers attention here as Desire did as most of them already bought DHD. Sensation might end up with load of awesomeness though
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no doubt about the sensation getting development.... i reckon the development around it will be somewhat like the htc hd2... which is also an amazing phone.
when htc make a huge deal over a phone, it usually means the developers are all over the phone. htc hd2, hd2 desire, htc desire hd, and the sensation lol
This would fall under "General" or "Q&A" but we all know that no one clicks on those tabs anymore, in addition this has a little to do with development. Seeing that the mt3gs is ancient in smartphone years and that our major developers have moved on, I figured we could start a comparison thread. Before I start I would like to thank all the teams that worked hard for all of us to better enjoy the "slide"; Team Cyanogen, Arrayray, CR, CM, Guitarist, Highly Medicated so on and so on. (if I missed anyone its not personal your work is also appreciated.) With that being said its time to discuss what's next..
I myself am almost due for an upgrade and would like the communities opinion on where to go next. Right now I have two options MyTouch 4G Slide versus HTC Sensation. So far the advantage of mt4gs is the awesome camera software and hardware, but lacks in the screen section which is not qHD. I'm open to discussion and opinions, also if there is any other phone you'd like to mention please do so.
It would be nice to get a mt4gs since a lot of our devs went that route and I'd be able to keep following them but I seen some nice development in the Sensation community as well. Any opinions?
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I have seen them both and I have to say the sensation is one of the best phones I have ever seen. It has a beautiful design and a really clear camera with 1080p HD camera. If you ask me, id go with the sensation. But that's only my opinion, in the end its all down to personal perspective. Whether you like a slide out keyboard or you like having a large screen. It all depends what you like.
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This would fall under "General" or "Q&A" but we all know that no one clicks on those tabs anymore, in addition this has a little to do with development. Seeing that the mt3gs is ancient in smartphone years and that our major developers have moved on, I figured we could start a comparison thread. Before I start I would like to thank all the teams that worked hard for all of us to better enjoy the "slide"; Team Cyanogen, Arrayray, CR, CM, Guitarist, Highly Medicated so on and so on. (if I missed anyone its not personal your work is also appreciated.) With that being said its time to discuss what's next..
I myself am almost due for an upgrade and would like the communities opinion on where to go next. Right now I have two options MyTouch 4G Slide versus HTC Sensation. So far the advantage of mt4gs is the awesome camera software and hardware, but lacks in the screen section which is not qHD. I'm open to discussion and opinions, also if there is any other phone you'd like to mention please do so.
It would be nice to get a mt4gs since a lot of our devs went that route and I'd be able to keep following them but I seen some nice development in the Sensation community as well. Any opinions?
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Agreed, on both posts, I do have a long time before I can upgrade (got this as a gift) but i figure I will jus pay cash for one from like amazon.com or something! and The Sensation is Absolutely hands down the best Android Phone to date! HOWEVER, while I am still a slide user, i will develop for it proudly!
Just got a 4g slide today and am liking it the way it is so far. I HATED sense on my 3g slide but Sense 3.0 is much better IMO. Camera is awesome as well. I need the hard keyboard so my choice was easy.
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Thank you guys for your opinions and input. I went and demo'd both phones today and I found something interesting.. the HTC Sensation is shipped with 2.3.3 while the mytouch 4G slide ships with 2.3.4. When I checked for an update on the sensation nothing showed up. Im sure they'll have the update soon
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The update for the sensation is being pushed out as we speak lol
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The update for the sensation is being pushed out as we speak lol
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Nice!
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Thx for the mention, but i feel like all i did was get people's toes wet concerning gingerbread with sense. Really wish i had time to do more for everyone. Thankfully team medicated worked hard to bring a working gingerbread rom for us.
As far as a new phone, its almost scary to buy a new phone knowing something better will be out in 6 months or so and we're stuck with that phone for another 18 months. Personally, i've looked so many times at other phones that i think the store reps know my face by now lol. I just cant bring myself to spend hundreds of dollars to get with the hottest handset. Its tough, but waiting till im due for a full discount on a new handset. Im really intreaged to see what google's next handset is going to be. It should be out by mid 2012. I just hope its better than the nexus s. Lets face it, nexus one blew us away, but the nexus s was a bit of a let down. A beautiful handset, i just expect a google phone to be the best out there.
Personally, at the start, i really hated the Slide and was getting disappointed that i even bought it. It's only thanks to developers here that had the SalsaSlide made possible that i've actually started enjoying using it.
As for a new phone, i don't run after technology, i've learned that it's a losing race and if my phone keeps working, then i see no reason of upgrading it just for saying i have the latest. What can i say, i'm not an apple fanatic that will rush to spend hundreds just to get the exact same phone in white
Anyway, if i'll be fully honest with you guys, once they get Android on the Fuze as native OS. I'd probably be switching to it, so instead of upgrading i'd be downgrading
Guitarist you deserve to be credited, in my opinion you introduced gingersense to the slide which gave devs the jumpstart to want to incorporate sense back into roms. Thanx again. Undoubtedly there will always be another smarter phone that's just how it goes. I also understand Sefy also, it is not only money draining to keep up with the latest handset but it is a bit cliche for that matter. (my secondary is still an iPhone 3gs, never upgrading my Apple handset)
Speaking of phones dropping in 2012, I stumbled upon an article earlier that's a game changer for Google. Google has agreed to buy Motorola mobility for 12.5 billion. Here's the article
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110815-708280.html
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I've been using a G2x since June. I do miss the slide's community though. Not that it should really affect what phone you get.
I decided that now that I have a phone with not just one, but two 1ghz cores I can rest, haha. I hate looking at the G2x forums though, at least general anyways. It's full of trolls and rudeness, lol.
I kind of wish I had stuck it out a little longer and got the mt4gs and feel like I upgraded rather than just went to a new phone completely.
It IS fast though. I got lucky enough to not get one of the terrible ones.
Wow I felt like this a while ago and I am torn about getting a new phone when there are a lot of phones out there and its hard to choose what to get next. Mt4gs looks like a great phone and might jump ship to it.
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The developing community for the Slide slowed down a long time ago. I stopped really even checking back, haven't logged in for ages. I'm due for an upgrade on September 16th, and I'm DEFINITELY going for the HTC Sensation. The screen is bigger, super high resolution, 1080p video shooting, and better battery life. I liked having a physical keyboard with my Slide, but it is cumbersome as it makes the phone significantly thicker and heavier. On an MDPI device I would go for the hard keyboard, but on HDPI, ESPECIALLY qHD 4.3" screens, I have no problem typing on the screen's keyboard. It's worth the thinner and lighter phone. Plus, on the Sensation, almost the entire front of the phone is screen space. The mts4g seems to have a thick frame around the screen, especially on the top of it, which I don't like. Yeah, sure, the camera features of the mts4g are certainly attractive, but at least for me, since my Slide camera has been broken ever since I got the phone and I was never that big of a camera user to begin with, the Sensation is a MUCH better bet. Both phones are the same price.
I had the mt3gs since It's release, after much thought and consideration, I decided that like this forum it was dead, so I upgraded with the myTouch 4G Slide. I love it, the keyboard, the screen, the look and feel. It's just like I ran my mt3gs through an update machine and the MT4GS was the result. Although it doesn't have the giant 4.3 inch touch screen and while it is not a not a super light phone, I have had a great experience so far.
The camera, let's start there, fast, clear, macro settings better than any phone I've seen so far, don't believe me, my Google+ profile has a pic of a mosquito I took with no zoom. (Link on profile) the sweep shot, the HDR multi shot that layers different white balance shots up to get great definition and color in bright light, (backlit pics as well). The action shot and shutter (as long as the camera app is already open) is just as fast as they claim, but if not held very still can be just slightly blurred, but better still than most mid grade digital cameras on the market. The only thing keeping this camera from being an actual replacement it the lack of an optical zoom. Oh and night shots....they are pretty nice as well.
The screen, 3.7" inches, Super LCD, is crisp and clear, with resolution that has honestly impressed me. The best part? You have a screen that's big enough to enjoy watching videos on and you don't feel like your gonna break your thumbs trying to reach the screen's extremities. Although I do wish it was just a little larger when gaming.
The processor, a 1.2GHz Dual Core, Snapdragon, is a beautiful change from the 600mhz of the mt3gs, finally games and apps that none of us could enjoy like Gun Bros, Need for Speed, Dungeon Defenders, and Google Earth are smooth and flowing. Even Quadrant standard's video benchmarks are now enjoyable to watch.
The keyboard, which is the reason anyone wants the phone is quite different from it's predecessor's or any others I've seen or used. The buttons are almost flat and press very easily, almost too easily at first but after about a week of using it, it's almost a pleasure to use, just be careful of the back button when typing the letter 'M', I have lost several Facebook posts, even part of this post so far.
Sense 3.0 is beautiful but it and it's components eat up 3GB of the MT4GS 4GB of on-board storage and around 40% of its 768MB of RAM. And T-Mobile's removal of the 7 screen option and lockscreen shortcuts make it slightly frustrating.
Kid Zone is also a big annoyance, while it is a neat alternative lockscreen geared toward kids is built into sense and not exactly what I would make for a child.
The '4G' aspect is not quite all its claimed to be, in Pittsburgh averaging 3-4 Mbps, but is quite a bit more reliable than I would have thought. The GPS is fast to lock, till rooted it seems, and compass and multiple rotation sensors make it crazy accurate and very sensitive. This makes it great for gaming, almost as good as a gyroscope, if not slightly better in some aspects. And the Bluetooth 3.0 makes file pushes fast and simple. And the usb transfers at around 4MB/s making video upload easy.
The over all feel of the phone is awkward at first being just slightly thicker than the HTC glacier(MT4G) yet not as thick and stocky as the mt3gs, it has grown on me more everyday, and I am very happy I made this choice.
My over all rating of this phone would be a 4.5 out of 5, it is a beautiful piece of technology, and should be relevant for a while to come.
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Neanderthal, thanx for that beautiful review and sharing your personal experience with the mt4gs. I also must admit after I demo'd the handset I've been wanting it more and more.
Speaking of other phones, does anyone know if the Nokia N9 will work on tmobile? It's a sick piece of equipment and IS the best camera for smart phone. The UI is effin dope and from specs and reviews this phone is killer. Any help will be appreciated .. thanx again for all the input. If there are any other phones out there please post. (worthy of posting)
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You could always wait it out for the samsung hercules, nexus prime and htc ruby to show up. As far as i know they should all be hitting the market fairly soon. Just a suggestion
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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With the release of sense 3.0 it wouldn't surprise me if phones with sense got updates sooner. Either way thanks your input. Let us know how that G2X goes for you
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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As a fellow G2x member, I say welcome! However to the updates, I'd have to say... Nope. We don't quite have Vanilla android... We waited a few months for Gingerbread and when we got it, it was "half-baked" and still not exactly Vanilla.
But the phone is a beast. Do enjoy it, cause I know I do.
And there's always rooting and roms.