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Switched from Nexus One to G2

I had a Nexus One and just switched to G2:
Here is the breakdown
Pros:
-IMPROVED BATTERY LIFE OVER NEXUS (it's all over the net people look it up if you dont believe me)
-What looks to be a sharper screen
-Way better touch sensitivity (= better screen typing)
-Much snappier and faster than the Nexus
-Boots very fast
-Keyboard is very nice
-Hinge is sturdy and not bad
(dont listen to the haters everyone hates t-mobile)
-Keyboard has 3 dedicated buttons u can customize
-Dedicated Camera button (really a nice touch)
-Back is chromed out and still has LED flash
Cons
-WEIGHT (Nexus = 4.6 oz vs G2 = 6.5 oz)
-WEIGHT (heaviest phone, 0.5 oz heavier than Evo)
Thats the thing. Besides the weight, there is nothing else that makes this phone WORSE than the Nexus.
I say this based on the fact that in a few days-week the G2 will have tethering and mobile hotspot support.
I traded my Nexus + 50 dollars for the G2 and I was originally gonna sell the G2 but now i am keeping it.
The G2 is a well designed, well made phone that has a great screen, keyboard, and battery life.
You cant go wrong getting a G2, in fact, all you Nexus One owners should try and get a new phone soon bc the Nexus One's resale is dropping fast.
A month ago the phone was worth 500 easily now its pushing 300-400 if you do it through craigslist. Ebay still holds steady at 500 same with Amazon.
Bottom line: Nexus One owners have a hot phone they can easily parlay into a trade on craigslist like i did.
There is no need to wait for the next gen of phone, take your nexus one, get a g2, its faster, better battery life than nexus, and has a keyboard.
I love it!

I'm sorry to see you go stfwayne :-(
But I'm happy your still an Android brother of mine!
Only things that I think the people here on Xda would disagree with you on the G2 being better than a Nexus One are:
1) Hard to root since it resets the phone every reboot
2) Physical keyboard might not be for everyone... as I've said before I like a phone that can slide into my front pocket without the added bulk of a keyboard making people think I have an erection =/
3) At the mercy of T-mobile to get updates and features. Gonna get gingerbread but who knows if you will get anything after that?
The G2 is a wonderful phone though I agree and pretty much think of it as a Nexus One that has traded:
A) freedom from carriers holding back OS updates and features
B) freedom to root
For:
A) physical keyboard
Thanks for taking the time to let the N1 owners know your thoughts though
Edit: Two things I caught reading your email are you don't like the battery life + touch sensor. For me these things are not even a consideration since:
1) I carry a tiny spare battery in wallet to last an entire day of heavy, heavy use.
2) The only games i play are emulators using a bluetooth wiimote so I don't even use the multitouch for games so the clearpad issue is overblown.

Hey, since you've got a G2 handy, maybe you can help out the folks here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807116

Until it can be properly rooted and made to be my ***** its of no interest. After that it would be of interest but just isnt quite enough to get me to buy in. I'm thinking the N1 will hold me till the dual cores come along which I figure will also coincide with a new developer phone.

You can pry my nexus from my cold dead fingers next phone I get will be : unbranded, 4 inch screen, keyboard (normal hinge), dual core, two cameras. But congrats on your g2, when they root that thing japanese people will point and run and scream in terror! Oc'd g2 > godzilla
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stfwayne said:
I had a Nexus One and just switched to G2:
Here is the breakdown
Pros:
-IMPROVED BATTERY LIFE OVER NEXUS (it's all over the net people look it up if you dont believe me)
-What looks to be a sharper screen
-Way better touch sensitivity (= better screen typing)
-Much snappier and faster than the Nexus
-Boots very fast
-Keyboard is very nice
-Hinge is sturdy and not bad
(dont listen to the haters everyone hates t-mobile)
-Keyboard has 3 dedicated buttons u can customize
-Dedicated Camera button (really a nice touch)
-Back is chromed out and still has LED flash
Cons
-WEIGHT (Nexus = 4.6 oz vs G2 = 6.5 oz)
-WEIGHT (heaviest phone, 0.5 oz heavier than Evo)
Thats the thing. Besides the weight, there is nothing else that makes this phone WORSE than the Nexus.
I say this based on the fact that in a few days-week the G2 will have tethering and mobile hotspot support.
I traded my Nexus + 50 dollars for the G2 and I was originally gonna sell the G2 but now i am keeping it.
The G2 is a well designed, well made phone that has a great screen, keyboard, and battery life.
You cant go wrong getting a G2, in fact, all you Nexus One owners should try and get a new phone soon bc the Nexus One's resale is dropping fast.
A month ago the phone was worth 500 easily now its pushing 300-400 if you do it through craigslist. Ebay still holds steady at 500 same with Amazon.
Bottom line: Nexus One owners have a hot phone they can easily parlay into a trade on craigslist like i did.
There is no need to wait for the next gen of phone, take your nexus one, get a g2, its faster, better battery life than nexus, and has a keyboard.
I love it!
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CONS
No root
No custom roms
Many forced and noisy apps
MMS slideshow crap
Storage capacity LIES
I could go on, but that is enough for now... I dropped the G2 back in the mail to T-Mo, and resumed use of my N1 within a week. The G2 has potential, but massively sucks.
I think the next phone I will consider is the Droid Terminator in 2011Q1...

I don't want a device with a keyboard...I find the Nexus One to be the perfect form factor. G2 can never be, for me. I'm keeping and using my two Nexus Ones until they die.

ap3604 said:
I'm sorry to see you go stfwayne :-(
2) Physical keyboard might not be for everyone... as I've said before I like a phone that can slide into my front pocket without the added bulk of a keyboard making people think I have an erection =/
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Who...says that's a bad thing...then you can just blame it on the phone!
ap3604 said:
1) I carry a tiny spare battery in wallet to last an entire day of heavy, heavy use.
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Wait, you don't like the added bulk but you carry a tiny spare battery?
ap3604 said:
2) The only games i play are emulators using a bluetooth wiimote so I don't even use the multitouch for games so the clearpad issue is overblown.
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I've noticed it does effect zooming sometimes, typing on the touch keyboard, and sometimes is just completely off and you have to put into standby and come back to fix it.
For me the major problems in the n1 is the touch screen issue, battery life is short, the gpu is weak, and call quality is not what i'm used to.

Made the switch too and loving it. Screen does seem nicer and keyboard is great especially for my emulators. The extra weight also feels good in my hand so I see that as a pro. Still got my Nexus for gingerbread purposes and as a backup. No root is not a con and notice you said no root YET we have cyanogen, enomther, and other devs working on the G2 and we do have a rom sure its only on temp root and you gotta run terminal commands and ext partition to use it its still a rom. As far as memory goes there is 4gb just not all available to user, 1.5gb is more then enough for app storage more would be nice but not necessary and plus some ppl are saying its a kernel issue and can be fixed in OTA. In the end though I love this phone, I still lurk around the Nexus forums and right now have my nexus put away in my otterbox just incase something happens to my G2
Sent from my T-Mobile G2

You forgot the biggest Conn of all; the hinge issue that will ultimately plague ALL G2s. I went to TMO store after launch and their G2 already didn't stay in place. I held it upside down and the screen just hung from the phone. Now you may not have this issue right now but like all moving parts they will give out. Daily use of the keyboard will wear out the plastic parts of the hinges fast. So, in about two months when all the dual core hspa+ phones hit the market you'll wish you hadn't wasted your upgrade.

800mhz Processor? It even looks like the Nexus One style. Missing Colored Trackball alerts. Thickness... meh.

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800mhz Processor? It even looks like the Nexus One style. Missing Colored Trackball alerts. Thickness... meh.
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trackball days are over me thinks

Don't know about you guys but I'm playing with both! Have my N1 since spring and made it my *****. Huge thanks to Evil's Desire HD!! Also, my wife just got the G2 and we trade every once in a while. I really like both phones.

Ive used the G2 more and more over the course of this week.
Updates:
-Nexus one call quality IS HORRIBLE compared to G2
-Nexus one RECEPTION is HORRIBLE compared to G2
-Nexus one battery is MODERATELY worse than the G2
Mytouch4G is going to be a joke.
You can NOT compare the craftsmanship of the G2 to the mytouch sorry.
G2 is like a macbook, mytouch line is like fisher price
i know you may say there is no comparison that is what people should realize as well...
A moderately faster processor and front facing camera isnt going to poop on the G2
That's why alot of you guys with a Nexus should take advantage of the chance to trade for a G2 on craigslist and get a phone with a higher resale value that will hold its 400 resale for at least 6-8 months whereas in 6-8 months the Nexus One will barely fetch 200-250.
Thats a big difference. And you get the benefit of using a faster phone that has better call quality and reception.
What's not to like...THE HINGEEEEEEEEE
STOP WHINING! there is nothing wrong with the hinge. The hinge problems are HATER PROBLEMS.
WAH WAH WAH when i hold my phone UPSIDE DOWN the keyboard comes out.
WHO IN THE FARX uses a phone upside down.
Be realistic people and STOP HATING

I'm glad your happy with your purchase, but how can you advocate getting this device without any mods/unlocks available for it, and on XDA of all places.
As of right now, I would gladly keep my Nexus one with the openness over most devices with better specs; how much fun is a stock device to play with for people who like to tinker?

stfwayne said:
A moderately faster processor and front facing camera isnt going to poop on the G2
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Those aren't the only reasons to not switch.
There are those of us who just don't want keyboards. Or want bigger screens. Or both
I'm waiting for a 4.3" Android touch-only phone on T-Mobile (not the HD2).

ChongoDroid said:
You can pry my nexus from my cold dead fingers next phone I get will be : unbranded, 4 inch screen, keyboard (normal hinge), dual core, two cameras. But congrats on your g2, when they root that thing japanese people will point and run and scream in terror! Oc'd g2 > godzilla
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Wow, aside from the keyboard, you just described my next phone to a T. I absolutely love my Nexus One and so far nothing has even tempted me. I like the size of the Evo's screen, but honestly it feels kinda sluggish compared to my N1. I think the Motorola T2 *might* be my next phone if Google doesn't try and do another "direct from Google" device. We shall see.....

Stfwayne: Don't be a troll
Glad you like your G2 but its pretty obv to me, based on your low post count and two main responses in this thread putting down every other phone but your own, that your just trying to illicit a heated response so chill...
stfwayne said:
Ive used the G2 more and more over the course of this week.
Updates:
-Nexus one call quality IS HORRIBLE compared to G2
-Nexus one RECEPTION is HORRIBLE compared to G2
-Nexus one battery is MODERATELY worse than the G2
Mytouch4G is going to be a joke.
You can NOT compare the craftsmanship of the G2 to the mytouch sorry.
G2 is like a macbook, mytouch line is like fisher price
i know you may say there is no comparison that is what people should realize as well...
A moderately faster processor and front facing camera isnt going to poop on the G2
That's why alot of you guys with a Nexus should take advantage of the chance to trade for a G2 on craigslist and get a phone with a higher resale value that will hold its 400 resale for at least 6-8 months whereas in 6-8 months the Nexus One will barely fetch 200-250.
Thats a big difference. And you get the benefit of using a faster phone that has better call quality and reception.
What's not to like...THE HINGEEEEEEEEE
STOP WHINING! there is nothing wrong with the hinge. The hinge problems are HATER PROBLEMS.
WAH WAH WAH when i hold my phone UPSIDE DOWN the keyboard comes out.
WHO IN THE FARX uses a phone upside down.
Be realistic people and STOP HATING
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stfwayne said:
What's not to like...THE HINGEEEEEEEEE
STOP WHINING! there is nothing wrong with the hinge. The hinge problems are HATER PROBLEMS.
WAH WAH WAH when i hold my phone UPSIDE DOWN the keyboard comes out.
WHO IN THE FARX uses a phone upside down.
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You can't see the big picture so I will explain. Holding the phone upside down is just an example of the the higes are now. As the hinges get worn out more the phone will come apart in your pocket and if you dont grab it the right the the phone will get caught in your pocket; you'll answer the phone in your pocket or hang up on the person. Maybe the phone will catch the corners of your pocket and put more stress on the hinges. The point is in the long run you will have to put more attention into handling your phone than you should, b/c of the design.

I want a new phone without a keyboard.
Thanks tho

[Q] myTouch 4G or G2

Ok I am going to ask this question once, state all your opinions don't hold back and people please do not start a flame war. Be civilized and to each their own opinion, we are technically the same android family and also both use T-Mobile.
myTouch 4G or G2?
Pros and Cons
Asking this in both forum sections... wish we could have the same thread in both sections.
{Edit- link to myTouch 4G forums thread same topic | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831502}

Dude this topic has been discussed to the...I will suggest go with what your heart says, they are both good phones so what ever makes you feel excited, no phone is perfect and will have u desire more and that's exactly the point when they design these phones. For me G2 being stock is reason enough every else is welcome bonus.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

G2 because it doesn't look like ass. That Genius button would annoy the hell out of me too. Looks so stupid and useless.

Engadget did a great review on both the G2 and the myTouch 4G.
After reading them both, I am glad I went with the G2 instead of the 4G.
Read it for yourself and maybe it'll help you in your decision.

There has already been a thread on this specific topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830569
Depends on you really. Your needs and style is what should influence you the most. For me, I got the g2 it does everything I need, and I know that the extra features will be unnoticeable or unused for the mt4g.

I have both in front of me - and I'm 100% in the "G2" team. The MT4G looks slick, but they have tweaked and modded Android to the point where it just pisses me off.
Every single app has something stock android doesn't do. After coming from the N1, the G2 feels the most like it, but the MT4G is in a league of its own. I'm sure it has a following, but it sure as hell isn't designed for people who like to tinker with their devices.

ScottC said:
I have both in front of me - and I'm 100% in the "G2" team. The MT4G looks slick, but they have tweaked and modded Android to the point where it just pisses me off.
Every single app has something stock android doesn't do. After coming from the N1, the G2 feels the most like it, but the MT4G is in a league of its own. I'm sure it has a following, but it sure as hell isn't designed for people who like to tinker with their devices.
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I have both phones in front of me, and I've been playing with them for a few days. I came from a G1 and I thought that G2 would be the one for me, but I just don't get it. How is the G2 so much more customizable than than MT4G? Sure it has a physical keyboard, so it's got more in that sense, but as far as OS features go I just don't see a huge difference. On the con side it has extra bulk/thickness. The hinges are prone to failure and it's missing the FFC. I actually think G2 should be more customizable than stock allows. I like Cyanogen roms, so if the MT4G can be rooted and Cyanogen supported then there is no question that MT4G would be a better phone for me. Even without Cyanogen and full root I'd say that MT4G is a tiny bit better. They're even phones at the least.
By the way, you're going to get people that are biased towards the G2 on this thread, and you will get people that are biased towards the MT4G on the MT4G thread. You will also see that bias in the poll.

I like the g2 because I really don't like the way the camera is on the mytouch.. they fact that its raised on the back of the device just annoys me and it feels like u would scratch the lens way too easily. I also like the build quality of the g2 better than the mytouch
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MT4G
Totally feel your pain cause I was in the same boat. Had the Nexus for almost a year until I replaced it with the G2.
I really like how the G2 lies in your hand when you're browsing the web in landscape mode with the keyboard out. I'm not a huge fan of the keyboard mainly because it doesn't have dedicated number keys and the size of it makes typing slower and more strenuous than on the G1 (which I had before the Nexus).
I was also a bit annoyed by the way the keyboard backlighting kept turning itself on and off in medium light conditions without having the option to have it always on when the keyboard is used.
The hinge is a big question mark with some disaster potential. I guess only time will tell. Having said that I didn't mind the looseness too much. I also really like the slick business look to the G2 although it is definitely bulky when compared to my nexus or the MT4G. Overall it's an awesome device though and I definitely grew font of it during the 3 weeks I owned it.
When the MT4G came out I decided to give it a try cause I still had 10 days in my remorse period. The genius button and mysense took some getting used to. Definitely prefer vanilla android. LauncherPro, visionary, and Titanium Backup helped me remove a lot of crap and get a bit more vanilla flare back although there are also certain things I like better about the sense UI (copy/paste, eMail app, facebook app,)
I like the camera app better on the MT4G. Simply takes better pictures. FFC isnt a big deal for me but certainly doesn't hurt.
I definitely miss the soft buttons on the MT4G. The plastic hard buttons feel a little cheap and I would prefer not having to actually click them. I guess its cause I've been so used to the Nexus. I also agree with parts of the Engadget review about the lag of aesthetics. Overall the MT4G feels a lot thinner and smaller though which was what won me over.
Verdict:
I still have 4 days left in my remorse period but decided to keep the MT4G. Both are good devices so it totally depends on what you want. In the end it was the thinness that won me over to the MT4G and the black looks actually quite slick. Good luck deciding and just remember, you really can't go wrong with either one.

G2. Better UI. No silly MySense interface that MT4G has. Only good thing about the MT4G is the FF camera but so be it. G2 is the best way to go if your looking to get something for grown up (in a sense).

after messing with my little sisters mytouch i told her how much i didn't like it and she said i don't care i can talk text and video chat. then i asked video chat with who? and she walked away ha.
the my touch seems like it's just geared more towards highschool girls

keyboard vs touchkeys only. best looking device ever vs mytouch line of plastic cheapo. love the commercials tho
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smirkis said:
keyboard vs touchkeys only. best looking device ever vs mytouch line of plastic cheapo. love the commercials tho
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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have you held a mytouch 4g? its nothing like the old ones, i had a g2 and returned it for a mytouch, they feel the same solid in my hand....well actually with no loose hinge wiggle, the mytouch feels better built
And best looking is very subjective....when i had the g2 and vibrant at the same time, my friends saw the g2 as a downgrade in the looks department

Trialing the Sensation...Think I'll keep my N1!

Picked one up Saturday at Wal Mart knowing I'll have 14 days without penalty to see if it knocks my socks off...
Guess what? It's Tuesday, and I'm back using my N1.
Ya, the Sensation has some nice eye candy and naturally evolved features built in that currently require 3rd party apps on the N1, but it just didn't have that "Wow" factor for me.
Makes me proud to have a Sexy Nexy. It may be rare (I've yet to see another), a few years old and not as big as some of the others, but she's still got life, my friends!
The encouraging part for me, is the fact, I've yet to have the balls too root. So there's still a lot to look forward too for me.
You know what I'm gonna miss most about the Sensation? IT'S GOT TEETER!!haha, I'm serious. I love that little game.

wow if you returned to the n1, and on top of that you have not even rooted your n1, then wait till you actually root this thing! it becomes an entirely new device with a good ROM on it.

It's nice, it just seems like a nexus 1.3.
I want the omg factor that the n1 gave me when I bought it.
The major leap forward.

I just sold my MT4G after getting it to replace my semi-broken N1. Back to using the N1
I sold it because I wanted to get the Sensation, but now I'm not so sure after reading this thread and others in the MT4G and Sensation forums.
What to do? I cant rotate my screen or use camera with my broken proximity sensor, camera and led. so i am hurting and would like a new phone.
What would you guys do?

I tried replacing my N1 a few times before (MT4G, G2x) but they didn't quite cut it. The Mt4G just wasn't... better enough. I went through multiple G2x and none of them worked right.
I grabbed the Sensation and I am entirely happy with it. No issues so far after 2 weeks, and it does everything my N1 could do and more. Minus rooted things, which I do really miss. If I could just get SetCPU on the Sensation like my N1 I'm sure I'd have amazing battery life.

I had the Sensation for about a week, but just returned it today. Each device had one minor issue, which was just enough for me to go back to the Nexus. The performance increase wasn't really there, either, though I'm sure once they have root that'll be fixed.

I was on the Atrix but now I'm back to the Nexus One. I love this phone and the trackball. Nothing else seems to cut it. It's like a bad drug habit. Can't seem to let it go. Lol
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jabreu203 said:
I was on the Atrix but now I'm back to the Nexus One. I love this phone and the trackball. Nothing else seems to cut it. It's like a bad drug habit. Can't seem to let it go. Lol
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Same here, I wiped my atrix and it boot looped. Unfortunately I don't have a PC and couldn't sbf flash. I'm gonna sell it as soon as soon the n3 comes out. Nexus for life
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Thanks kitinas, downey, jabreu, chongdroid.
Kitinas: You give me hope for loving the sensation. I guess I got to feel it in my hands in store to see, and, decide if its worth the $$$.. it would be nice to have a working phone.
You other guys, have given me pause too. Atrix back to N1.. wow. I'm starting so see where you guys are coming from about wanting to go back to the n1 after selling this mt4g for a loss. Maybe it isnt too bad to buy a new N1 of ebay for $298 vs a more expensive phone.
......

Kitinas said:
I tried replacing my N1 a few times before (MT4G, G2x) but they didn't quite cut it. The Mt4G just wasn't... better enough. I went through multiple G2x and none of them worked right.
I grabbed the Sensation and I am entirely happy with it. No issues so far after 2 weeks, and it does everything my N1 could do and more. Minus rooted things, which I do really miss. If I could just get SetCPU on the Sensation like my N1 I'm sure I'd have amazing battery life.
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Does it have docking contacts?

I'm just patiently waiting for the N3.

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Does it have docking contacts?
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No, no external contacts, but it does automatically go into a dock mode in the car dock, from what I've heard. People have said it responds to magnets, but I haven't experienced it personally. I haven't picked up a car dock yet cause I really can't find a good place in my car to put it. Same issue I had with my N1's dock, lol.

Can you find a 'real' girl that has a ball on his body?
actually no. Nexus One is the only one that has a 'ball' on it.
err... i mean the track ball.

alisabki said:
Can you find a 'real' girl that has a ball on his body?
actually no. Nexus One is the only one that has a 'ball' on it.
err... i mean the track ball.
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HTC Hero
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I have a G2x and love it. Running CM7.1 RC1 which was basically the same as what I was running on the Nexus One. The G2x does have some software bugs but CM7 fixed most of those.
Would I go back? Tough choice. I LOVED my N1. If I lost or killed my G2x and someone gave me a N1, I would use it without question and it would probably subdue me for a while.
The G2x is a pretty good upgrade from the N1. Tegra games are amazing and the touchscreen recognizes 10 inputs.
The trackball is missed when correcting typing but CM has a kernel based hack to light up our touch buttons for notifications.
I can see, using CM7 on N1 to CM7 on G2x, that the upgrade may seem dismal. I do, however, use the HDMI out and bluetooth gamepad for gaming.
If gaming isn't your thing then the Nexus One is still perfect.

Everyone who is returning the Sensation seems to not be giving any real tangible reasons for doing so. The OP lists not getting "wow'ed", but obviously that will always be subjective from person to person. downey_ryan had three devices each with a "minor issue" but won't list what they were.
For those of you downing on the Sensation, I challenge you to find some tangible reasons why the N1 is better than the Sensation. I'm not saying none exist; I just want to discuss them, rather than a "I hate the Sensation but won't say why" thread.
Anyway, a week and a half ago I sold my N1 and picked up a Sensation from Amazon. And you can tell by my signature, that this was NOT an easy decision! I've been a member of the XDA N1 community for quite some time
All throughout this time I have been absolutely dying for a larger screened phone (the Sensation is T-Mobile's first 4.3" Android), and the jump from 3.7" to 4.3" is already a HUGE enough reason for me to make the switch.
With the N1 having a larger bezel due to the trackball and HTC really minimizing the bezel on the Sensation, the total difference in pocketable device size is minimal. And compared to the benefit of such a larger screen, it is amazing. I can actually read a lot of text comfortably, and certain apps display a lot more content at once due to the qHD screen.
And this is not to mention the Sensation is even thinner than the N1 anyway. It's so thin and light that my coworker held it and said "You should put a case on it to protect it", and I already have a case on it (This one if anyone's interested.)
As I said, the screen size (and thinness, and lightness) is already a big enough reason but the lack of a trackball is actually quite nice. I thought I would miss it more, but the lack of a trackball makes the phone look sleeker, and makes it easier to put a screen protector on it to protect the entire face of the phone, buttons and all. Selecting text without a trackball is a bit more difficult, but the combination of Gingerbread's text selection tool and the qHD screen make it a non-issue. (And trackballs are a thing of the past anyway. Not a single new Android phone coming out has one, so it's best to used get used to not having one anyway.)
I admittedly missed trackball LED notifications for a few days. But then installed NoLED and instantly forgot all about them. It's much better because it displays notifications using the entire screen, which is more noticeable from far away (can configure to turn off via proximity sensor when in pockets etc to save battery), as well as repeated vibration/audio reminders (extremely helpful). If I had to switch back to the N1, I'd still use NoLED in a heartbeat.
Another huge issue is fixed as well, and that is that I can finally use multitouch everywhere without having the axes get flipped and sticking. And not to mention I can finally play all the games I couldn't play on my N1 with the much-increased processing power.
Sense 3.0 is very beautiful. Every person I've shown my phone to is instantly in awe in the first 5 seconds in just unlocking the screen, with the bouncing circle unlock and the carousel homescreen animations. I've had no issues at all so far with Sense, and I'm loving the Sense widgets, namely the photo album widget. I purchased LauncherPro Plus a long time ago, but I actually like Sense better so I have not yet had the need to use LP+ even though I paid money for it.
Speaking of paying, I sold my N1 for $200 (after the buyer's downward haggling) on Craigslist and bought the Sensation on wireless.amazon.com for $179, no tax, free shipping. So the cost was a no-brainer -- I actually made money
I would encourage everyone to make the switch. You would be surprised how fast the N1 sells on Craigslist. I literally posted in the morning, found a buyer hours later, and sold it right after work the same day. It's still a great device, and I probably could have gotten more for it (the buyer haggled down), but since I already profited from the switch and it sold so ridiculously fast, I didn't care too much.
Anyway, all in all, I am extremely satisfied with my upgrade. When the Hercules is finally announced (if ever!), I'll check into it , but for now I love my Sensation and the N1 before it. The funny thing is that I had a G1 before that. All three are HTC devices, so I guess no matter what device you pick, HTC has been good to me

Yeah. I love my Nexus.

1.5 years old and still keeping up with the big boys.

It'll be a while before anything really impresses us again. The fact is, the Nexus One was a well-thought-out device and includes most all of the features one needs in a very practical and elegant package. I don't want a bigger phone or another cpu core. 4G would have been enticing if the carriers didn't start capping the data plans and NFC will hopefully become accepted and I can quit carrying a wallet around, but until then I'm in love with this device.
One last thing, even with everything Google & HTC put into this phone, it wouldn't be half as great without the wonderful support from the community. Thanks guys!

I love my N1. I have a Defy, and a Desire HD also, but keep going back to the N1. Just the overall use, feel, and sexyness of it makes me want to use it. Plus it has the best call quality I have ever used. I like the Sensation's look/features. Reminds me of a bigger brother to the N1, but I just can't pull the trigger. My N1 does everything I need it to do, and I'm sure it can do a lot more, so no reason to stop using it. If anyone is looking for a new one here are some places to get one. All are T-Mo bands. The ebay ones are cheaper by a lot, but welectronics is a safe reliable place to buy. All are new in box. I bought an extra just to have. For $260 it's cheaper than my original insurance with $150 deductible and $10 a month payments over the life of the phone.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...55428&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2578wt_1141
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...51315&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_5490wt_1141
http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/HTC/HTC-GOOGLE-NEXUS-ONE.HTML

My thoughts on the MyTouch 4G Slide vs. the G2

So I finally made it to T-Mobile today and played with the new phone. Overall, I'm disappointed with the build quality. I was wanting to get this phone to replace my G2 but the build quality on the G2 feels a lot better. Of course I'm already use to the G2's keyboard layout and the tactile feedback is a lot better than the slide. Also, the physical menu buttons on the slide, which I prefer, could be made a lot better. The optical pad worked a lot better (more sensitive) than my G2, but so did the demo G2 . And the sliding on the slide seemed very poor.
I am in love with the camera and it's features though. And yes its dual core processor and ram. But that's it. I'm guess I'm waiting either for the next G phone with a physical keyboard or HTC's next super phone.
Until then, I'm thankful for the doubleshot rom! Loving the camera on that one.
Anyone feel the same?

I think in general us keyboard lovers are gonna have to start seeing the writing on the wall. Keyboard phones are on the way out. Their a huge rarity now and only getting more obscure. I like a keyboard but I'm not like many people on here where I HAVE to have a keyboard. Pretty soon only option is gonna be a blackberry LMFAO LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry just the thought of even touching one of those outdated pieces of junk makes me laugh.
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hahaha. I might tell myself I don't need TO HAVE but I think I do. lol. It stopped me from picking up the sensation. Either that, or the funding. haha. But I still have my blackberry 9780 with me! haha. I carry it around for my phone numbers... but lately I haven't been carrying it around. Thanks to the cloud. lol. And the keys on there are too small now. Although it is fast and easy to text... that's about all it's good for. Well, maybe a mp3 player too. haha

I'm just not super hot on the looks of the MT4GS. I just think the MyTouch line has always been too flashy, chromy and has the "genious button". Not to mention that I'm not a big fan of the skin.
If you really need a keyboard I would hope that a "G3" would be coming out eventually by the time that the G2 has lost all relevance. They've done the G1 and G2, why not continue? I havent heard anything about this though. I'm just expecting it considering the G2 is coming up on 1yr old in October. The MT4GS is kind of a next progression in keyboard phones after the G2, but I'd really expect them to have another "G" device, as they have kept the MyTouch and G lines separate.
xsteven77x said:
I think in general us keyboard lovers are gonna have to start seeing the writing on the wall. Keyboard phones are on the way out. Their a huge rarity now and only getting more obscure. I like a keyboard but I'm not like many people on here where I HAVE to have a keyboard.
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I used the keyboard a ton when I first got the phone, but I've started to use it less and less unless I need to nail out a big e-mail or forum post. I like to have it but have a hard time justifying the weight and thickness to have something I won't always use. I don't think I'll be in need of a keyboard on my next device.
I always think that there will be keyboard phones though. There's always going to be a market for it, but I dont expect each manufacturer to have more than 1 keyboard phone out at a time.

For all us Qwerty addicts....
Start drooling
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_galaxy_s_ii-4071.php

dumraden said:
For all us Qwerty addicts....
Start drooling
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_galaxy_s_ii-4071.php
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Why would anybody drool over that piece of trash? Look at the layout of the keyboard -- useless.

I suppose the dual core processor, the tegra 2 equivalent gpu and Sammies build quality is of no matter to you.
Have you tried it out to know its useless? Or can you judge by a 3d rendering of the phone how the keyboard feels?

I would rather upgrade to a qwerty smartphone with sense ui. Best ui ever
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So I finally made it to T-Mobile today and played with the new phone. 1)Overall, I'm disappointed with the build quality. I was wanting to get this phone to replace my G2 but the build quality on the G2 feels a lot better. 2)Of course I'm already use to the G2's keyboard layout and the tactile feedback is a lot better than the slide. 3)Also, the physical menu buttons on the slide, which I prefer, could be made a lot better. 4)The optical pad worked a lot better (more sensitive) than my G2, but so did the demo G2 . 5)And the sliding on the slide seemed very poor.
6)I am in love with the camera and it's features though. And yes its dual core processor and ram. But that's it. I'm guess I'm waiting either for the next G phone with a physical keyboard or HTC's next super phone.
Until then, I'm thankful for the doubleshot rom! Loving the camera on that one.
Anyone feel the same?
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(I bought the MT4GS on wednesday.. here are my thoughts)
1) build quality is solid. they used a lot more plastic than on the G2 (could be a pro or con depending on your viewpoint), yes, and it's nowhere near as sexy as the G2 (not many phones are, imo), but it's not going to fall into pieces.
2) with you there 100%... it's just a learning curve, though. pretty soon I'll forget the G2 keyboard. they are nearly identical anyway, only a few minor differences, including the tactile feedback.
3) my only gripe with the buttons is the genius button.. I don't need a specific button mapped to pull an application that does what the OS already does so well with a "search" button... it just seems like a waste and a silly marketing gimmick. otherwise, they work well enough. I keep placing, rather than pushing, my fingers on the buttons though and am confused when nothing happens.. then I realize I have to push, hehe.
4) the optical trackpad is much better, imo, than the G2's. I thought the G2's would be very responsive and accurate, but it just wasn't... and I kept it extremely clean so it didn't have anything to do with gunk buildup. the MT4GS trackpad is fluid, responsive and accurate even when dirty.. very nice.
5) I really liked the G2's z-hinge personally, so going back to more of a Dream style (not the same hinge obviously, but similar in effort needed to pop it out) kb is a little weird.. but it feels durable and has a nice "locked" feeling that you didn't get from the G2. those of you who lost sleep over the z-hinge would be very happy with the Slide's hinge mechanism.
6) this, ultimately, is the selling point for me. the rest of the stuff is whatever... the hardware specs are impressive. I haven't even been toting my digicam anymore, there's no need... the Slide takes seriously awesome photos and video. once we get s-off and get some good development going, I foresee great things for the MT4GS.
is it worth the upgrade? in my opinion, after buying the MT4GS, no... it's really not. is it nice to have a new toy with some cool features that I wished the G2 could have had? you know it.

Moving on [dying development]

This would fall under "General" or "Q&A" but we all know that no one clicks on those tabs anymore, in addition this has a little to do with development. Seeing that the mt3gs is ancient in smartphone years and that our major developers have moved on, I figured we could start a comparison thread. Before I start I would like to thank all the teams that worked hard for all of us to better enjoy the "slide"; Team Cyanogen, Arrayray, CR, CM, Guitarist, Highly Medicated so on and so on. (if I missed anyone its not personal your work is also appreciated.) With that being said its time to discuss what's next..
I myself am almost due for an upgrade and would like the communities opinion on where to go next. Right now I have two options MyTouch 4G Slide versus HTC Sensation. So far the advantage of mt4gs is the awesome camera software and hardware, but lacks in the screen section which is not qHD. I'm open to discussion and opinions, also if there is any other phone you'd like to mention please do so.
It would be nice to get a mt4gs since a lot of our devs went that route and I'd be able to keep following them but I seen some nice development in the Sensation community as well. Any opinions?
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I have seen them both and I have to say the sensation is one of the best phones I have ever seen. It has a beautiful design and a really clear camera with 1080p HD camera. If you ask me, id go with the sensation. But that's only my opinion, in the end its all down to personal perspective. Whether you like a slide out keyboard or you like having a large screen. It all depends what you like.
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Wagedroid said:
This would fall under "General" or "Q&A" but we all know that no one clicks on those tabs anymore, in addition this has a little to do with development. Seeing that the mt3gs is ancient in smartphone years and that our major developers have moved on, I figured we could start a comparison thread. Before I start I would like to thank all the teams that worked hard for all of us to better enjoy the "slide"; Team Cyanogen, Arrayray, CR, CM, Guitarist, Highly Medicated so on and so on. (if I missed anyone its not personal your work is also appreciated.) With that being said its time to discuss what's next..
I myself am almost due for an upgrade and would like the communities opinion on where to go next. Right now I have two options MyTouch 4G Slide versus HTC Sensation. So far the advantage of mt4gs is the awesome camera software and hardware, but lacks in the screen section which is not qHD. I'm open to discussion and opinions, also if there is any other phone you'd like to mention please do so.
It would be nice to get a mt4gs since a lot of our devs went that route and I'd be able to keep following them but I seen some nice development in the Sensation community as well. Any opinions?
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Agreed, on both posts, I do have a long time before I can upgrade (got this as a gift) but i figure I will jus pay cash for one from like amazon.com or something! and The Sensation is Absolutely hands down the best Android Phone to date! HOWEVER, while I am still a slide user, i will develop for it proudly!

Just got a 4g slide today and am liking it the way it is so far. I HATED sense on my 3g slide but Sense 3.0 is much better IMO. Camera is awesome as well. I need the hard keyboard so my choice was easy.
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Thank you guys for your opinions and input. I went and demo'd both phones today and I found something interesting.. the HTC Sensation is shipped with 2.3.3 while the mytouch 4G slide ships with 2.3.4. When I checked for an update on the sensation nothing showed up. Im sure they'll have the update soon
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The update for the sensation is being pushed out as we speak lol
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The update for the sensation is being pushed out as we speak lol
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Nice!
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Thx for the mention, but i feel like all i did was get people's toes wet concerning gingerbread with sense. Really wish i had time to do more for everyone. Thankfully team medicated worked hard to bring a working gingerbread rom for us.
As far as a new phone, its almost scary to buy a new phone knowing something better will be out in 6 months or so and we're stuck with that phone for another 18 months. Personally, i've looked so many times at other phones that i think the store reps know my face by now lol. I just cant bring myself to spend hundreds of dollars to get with the hottest handset. Its tough, but waiting till im due for a full discount on a new handset. Im really intreaged to see what google's next handset is going to be. It should be out by mid 2012. I just hope its better than the nexus s. Lets face it, nexus one blew us away, but the nexus s was a bit of a let down. A beautiful handset, i just expect a google phone to be the best out there.

Personally, at the start, i really hated the Slide and was getting disappointed that i even bought it. It's only thanks to developers here that had the SalsaSlide made possible that i've actually started enjoying using it.
As for a new phone, i don't run after technology, i've learned that it's a losing race and if my phone keeps working, then i see no reason of upgrading it just for saying i have the latest. What can i say, i'm not an apple fanatic that will rush to spend hundreds just to get the exact same phone in white
Anyway, if i'll be fully honest with you guys, once they get Android on the Fuze as native OS. I'd probably be switching to it, so instead of upgrading i'd be downgrading

Guitarist you deserve to be credited, in my opinion you introduced gingersense to the slide which gave devs the jumpstart to want to incorporate sense back into roms. Thanx again. Undoubtedly there will always be another smarter phone that's just how it goes. I also understand Sefy also, it is not only money draining to keep up with the latest handset but it is a bit cliche for that matter. (my secondary is still an iPhone 3gs, never upgrading my Apple handset)
Speaking of phones dropping in 2012, I stumbled upon an article earlier that's a game changer for Google. Google has agreed to buy Motorola mobility for 12.5 billion. Here's the article
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110815-708280.html
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I've been using a G2x since June. I do miss the slide's community though. Not that it should really affect what phone you get.
I decided that now that I have a phone with not just one, but two 1ghz cores I can rest, haha. I hate looking at the G2x forums though, at least general anyways. It's full of trolls and rudeness, lol.
I kind of wish I had stuck it out a little longer and got the mt4gs and feel like I upgraded rather than just went to a new phone completely.
It IS fast though. I got lucky enough to not get one of the terrible ones.

Wow I felt like this a while ago and I am torn about getting a new phone when there are a lot of phones out there and its hard to choose what to get next. Mt4gs looks like a great phone and might jump ship to it.
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The developing community for the Slide slowed down a long time ago. I stopped really even checking back, haven't logged in for ages. I'm due for an upgrade on September 16th, and I'm DEFINITELY going for the HTC Sensation. The screen is bigger, super high resolution, 1080p video shooting, and better battery life. I liked having a physical keyboard with my Slide, but it is cumbersome as it makes the phone significantly thicker and heavier. On an MDPI device I would go for the hard keyboard, but on HDPI, ESPECIALLY qHD 4.3" screens, I have no problem typing on the screen's keyboard. It's worth the thinner and lighter phone. Plus, on the Sensation, almost the entire front of the phone is screen space. The mts4g seems to have a thick frame around the screen, especially on the top of it, which I don't like. Yeah, sure, the camera features of the mts4g are certainly attractive, but at least for me, since my Slide camera has been broken ever since I got the phone and I was never that big of a camera user to begin with, the Sensation is a MUCH better bet. Both phones are the same price.

I had the mt3gs since It's release, after much thought and consideration, I decided that like this forum it was dead, so I upgraded with the myTouch 4G Slide. I love it, the keyboard, the screen, the look and feel. It's just like I ran my mt3gs through an update machine and the MT4GS was the result. Although it doesn't have the giant 4.3 inch touch screen and while it is not a not a super light phone, I have had a great experience so far.
The camera, let's start there, fast, clear, macro settings better than any phone I've seen so far, don't believe me, my Google+ profile has a pic of a mosquito I took with no zoom. (Link on profile) the sweep shot, the HDR multi shot that layers different white balance shots up to get great definition and color in bright light, (backlit pics as well). The action shot and shutter (as long as the camera app is already open) is just as fast as they claim, but if not held very still can be just slightly blurred, but better still than most mid grade digital cameras on the market. The only thing keeping this camera from being an actual replacement it the lack of an optical zoom. Oh and night shots....they are pretty nice as well.
The screen, 3.7" inches, Super LCD, is crisp and clear, with resolution that has honestly impressed me. The best part? You have a screen that's big enough to enjoy watching videos on and you don't feel like your gonna break your thumbs trying to reach the screen's extremities. Although I do wish it was just a little larger when gaming.
The processor, a 1.2GHz Dual Core, Snapdragon, is a beautiful change from the 600mhz of the mt3gs, finally games and apps that none of us could enjoy like Gun Bros, Need for Speed, Dungeon Defenders, and Google Earth are smooth and flowing. Even Quadrant standard's video benchmarks are now enjoyable to watch.
The keyboard, which is the reason anyone wants the phone is quite different from it's predecessor's or any others I've seen or used. The buttons are almost flat and press very easily, almost too easily at first but after about a week of using it, it's almost a pleasure to use, just be careful of the back button when typing the letter 'M', I have lost several Facebook posts, even part of this post so far.
Sense 3.0 is beautiful but it and it's components eat up 3GB of the MT4GS 4GB of on-board storage and around 40% of its 768MB of RAM. And T-Mobile's removal of the 7 screen option and lockscreen shortcuts make it slightly frustrating.
Kid Zone is also a big annoyance, while it is a neat alternative lockscreen geared toward kids is built into sense and not exactly what I would make for a child.
The '4G' aspect is not quite all its claimed to be, in Pittsburgh averaging 3-4 Mbps, but is quite a bit more reliable than I would have thought. The GPS is fast to lock, till rooted it seems, and compass and multiple rotation sensors make it crazy accurate and very sensitive. This makes it great for gaming, almost as good as a gyroscope, if not slightly better in some aspects. And the Bluetooth 3.0 makes file pushes fast and simple. And the usb transfers at around 4MB/s making video upload easy.
The over all feel of the phone is awkward at first being just slightly thicker than the HTC glacier(MT4G) yet not as thick and stocky as the mt3gs, it has grown on me more everyday, and I am very happy I made this choice.
My over all rating of this phone would be a 4.5 out of 5, it is a beautiful piece of technology, and should be relevant for a while to come.
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Neanderthal, thanx for that beautiful review and sharing your personal experience with the mt4gs. I also must admit after I demo'd the handset I've been wanting it more and more.
Speaking of other phones, does anyone know if the Nokia N9 will work on tmobile? It's a sick piece of equipment and IS the best camera for smart phone. The UI is effin dope and from specs and reviews this phone is killer. Any help will be appreciated .. thanx again for all the input. If there are any other phones out there please post. (worthy of posting)
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You could always wait it out for the samsung hercules, nexus prime and htc ruby to show up. As far as i know they should all be hitting the market fairly soon. Just a suggestion
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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thegreenfamily04 said:
I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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With the release of sense 3.0 it wouldn't surprise me if phones with sense got updates sooner. Either way thanks your input. Let us know how that G2X goes for you
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thegreenfamily04 said:
I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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As a fellow G2x member, I say welcome! However to the updates, I'd have to say... Nope. We don't quite have Vanilla android... We waited a few months for Gingerbread and when we got it, it was "half-baked" and still not exactly Vanilla.
But the phone is a beast. Do enjoy it, cause I know I do.
And there's always rooting and roms.