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Ok I am going to ask this question once, state all your opinions don't hold back and people please do not start a flame war. Be civilized and to each their own opinion, we are technically the same android family and also both use T-Mobile.
G2 or myTouch 4G?
Pros and Cons
Asking this in both forum sections... wish we could have the same thread in both sections.
{Edit- link to G2 forums thread same topic | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831505}
There are plenty of reviews/comparisons out on the web. It's really personal opinion.
Do you want a physical kb? That's one big difference been the 2. The myTouch is candybar style, thin & "sexy", while the G2 is bulky in comparison sure to the physical kb, and the hinge mechanism is strange and loose whether you'd hold it in a way to notice or not.
Also, if you put value on it - Quadrant score on mT4G was about 100 higher than G2
Do you really want stock Android, or would you be happy with Espresso or a replacement launcher?
Again, it's really personal choice. Both are top T-Mob offerings right now and people are very happy with both. Personally, I don't like physical kbs and the bulk they add, and think HTC made a poor choice with the G2 in using an odd hinge vs something similar to the mT3G Slide.
For sure, the 4G is a sweet phone, a beast under the hood, and feels both sleek and solid in your hand. Also got OTA to 2.2.1 within hours of walking out of store.
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Its going to be a close discussion. I would prefer the phsyical keyboard and vanilla Android of the G2, but that wonky hinge makes me edgy.
I'm leaning towards the MT4G myself, the Sense/Espresso UI can likely be removed once full root is achieved.
I went off contract last month and have been using a G1 for the past 2 years. When I was looking at phones I came close to purchasing the G2 but the hinge seemed awkward, so decided to do some research on the G2.
Read a lot, not just a few complaints about the hinge, random boots, lose of data, and dropped connections for the phone. The complaints about the G2 really turned me off from buying it. The complaints about the My Touch 4G seem to be mostly personal preference about the UI, with the phone itself being reliable.
So the My Touch 4G it was. I won't receive it until Monday, so I can't comment on how much I will like or dislike it.
I also had a G1, until yesterday. So far I have to say I am thrilled with the My Touch.
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myTouch 4G hands down. I have both and I'm almost tempted to sell my G2 now.
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I would go with the mytouch as well. Here are my thoughts from another thread.
I'm gonna keep using both but the mytouch is the superior phone. For me, the overall function of the mytouch is the reason. There are some things that the vibrant does do better though - 1. The samoled on the vibrant is definitely better (I love the true blacks and contrast ratio on this thing) 2. The speakers are also noticeably better with richer and fuller sound 3. The GPU is also more capable 4. Audio quality for media is better (mytouch and HTC phones in general have too much bass and not enough detail) 5. The camera while lacking flash is more capable 5. The multitouch, responsiveness, and feel of the screen is better 6. And the last thing is the notification bar is the best I've seen on an Android phone (the ability to have those toggle settings, change brightness by swiping, and change music tracks are amazing). Everything else, the mytouch does better. 1) GPS is much better 2) Solid feel while the vibrant felt plastic and creaked 3)FFC 3. Camera flash 4. Froyo 5. Optical trackpad 6. Much better battery life 7. The user experience is buttery smooth with little or no lag on this thing 8. The notification led
Wow sorry for the essay guys, got a little carried away haha.
I bought the MT4G and LOVE the hardware, but Sense is pissing me off so much that I'm thinking of returning it for the G2.
Phateless said:
I bought the MT4G and LOVE the hardware, but Sense is pissing me off so much that I'm thinking of returning it for the G2.
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You could install LP or ADW maybe?
Bateluer said:
You could install LP or ADW maybe?
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Actually not a bad idea, but I don't think it'll get rid of all of the Sense stuff...
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Actually not a bad idea, but I don't think it'll get rid of all of the Sense stuff...
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I'm debating between the two phones myself, would like to see some screens of what the MT4G looks like with LP/ADW with a stock look.
Regardless, I'm not going to buy either until they have full root. In one of the G2 threads, some one's posted about how newer G2s have a modified hinge design with a spring.
Patience, Patience. :-/
Functionality wise the MT4G has it all. Gps inside my house was within 4 meters almost instantly. The htc widgets are just pure win aswell. I thought about the G2 but the hinge on the model phone at tmobile was so loose if you turned the phone on its side the keyboard would fall open by itself so it was an easy decision for me right there to go with the MT4G.
Doh! I just noticed that I talked about the vibrant vs the mytouch instead of the g2. This is really a hard choice as both phones are great and geared towards different crowds. G2 is for the pure android enthusiast that loves or needs the physical keyboard. Mytouch is more for the casual crowd. I would personally go with the mytouch for its slimmer profile, FFC, toucscreen seems to respond and feel a little better, stock 1ghz processor vs 800mhz, and 768mb ram vs 512mb. The g2 has a better look IMO, physical keyboard if you prefer, stock android for faster updates, and the screen seems to be a little more saturated.
There is a new 3 part review on youtube of the mytouch vs g2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X6aaOXvEno&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
I actually bought the G2, and 24 hrs later I returned it and got the MT4G. I have absolutely 0 buyer's remorse.
I loved the G2, but the problem was the hinge. After just one day, it would open just by breathing on it. I couldn't stand it. While there are some things I wish the MT4G had from the G2, overall, because of the hinge, the MT4G is the winner.
Elfabaa said:
I actually bought the G2, and 24 hrs later I returned it and got the MT4G. I have absolutely 0 buyer's remorse.
I loved the G2, but the problem was the hinge. After just one day, it would open just by breathing on it. I couldn't stand it. While there are some things I wish the MT4G had from the G2, overall, because of the hinge, the MT4G is the winner.
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Funny you say that because I picked up the MT4G on Saturday and am thinking about returning it for the G2 because I don't like Sense. Part of the reason I chose the MT4G was the hinge issue you mentioned. I would never use the keyboard anyway so it seemed silly to buy a phone that had one.
MT4G
Totally feel your pain cause I was in the same boat. Had the Nexus for almost a year until I replaced it with the G2.
I really like how the G2 lies in your hand when you're browsing the web in landscape mode with the keyboard out although I'm not a huge fan of the keyboard mainly because it doesn't have dedicated number keys and the size of it makes typing slower and more strenuous than on the G1 (which I had before the Nexus).
I was also a bit annoyed by the way the keyboard backlighting kept turning itself on and off in medium light conditions without having the option to have it always on when the keyboard is used.
The hinge is a big question mark with some disaster potential. I guess only time will tell. Having said that I didn't mind the looseness too much. I also really like the slick business look to the G2 although it is definitely bulky when compared to my nexus or the MT4G. Overall it's an awesome device though and I definitely grew font of it during the 3 weeks I owned it.
When the MT4G came out I decided to give it a try cause I still had 10 days in my remorse period. The genius button and mysense took some getting used to. Definitely prefer vanilla android. LauncherPro, visionary, and Titanium Backup helped me remove a lot of crap and get a bit more vanilla flare back although there are also certain things I like better about the sense UI (copy/paste, eMail app, facebook app,)
I like the camera app better on the MT4G. Simply takes better pictures. FFC isnt a big deal for me but certainly doesn't hurt.
I definitely miss the soft buttons on the MT4G. The plastic hard buttons feel a little cheap and I would prefer not having to actually click them. I guess its cause I've been so used to the Nexus. I also agree with parts of the Engadget review about the lag of aesthetics. Overall the MT4G feels a lot thinner and smaller though which was what won me over.
Verdict:
I still have 4 days left in my remorse period but decided to keep the MT4G. Both are good devices so it totally depends on what you want. In the end it was the thinness that won me over to the MT4G and the black looks actually quite slick. Good luck deciding and just remember, you really can't go wrong with either one.
I'm not a sense fan either, I use launcher pro plus. I got this setup like my nexus, fast too. And I use widget lock screen app
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Wanna define what you mean by "all the sense stuff"? Not saying it applies to you but sometimes I get the feeling people say they dislike sense because they have read so many times that stock is better without really knowing what the difference is.
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Wanna define what you mean by "all the sense stuff"? Not saying it applies to you but sometimes I get the feeling people say they dislike sense because they have read so many times that stock is better without really knowing what the difference is.
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I'm not a fan of any UI overlays. None really seem to add much to the Android OS that isn't already there, but they do slow OS updates to a crawl. Even with their faults, HTC pushes more updates to their Sense phones than other manufacturers.
I spoke with a VZW rep this afternoon, sent them an email inquiring about cancellations and what the penalties would be. They offered me an early upgrade, but when I told them I was more interested in a stock Android device, the rep told me that I should wait until after Thanksgiving because they may be better able to help me then.
I didn't exactly plan on buying a MT4G/G2 next week, but this does have me curious.
Is there anything I should know before making this trade?
Also, is the G2 easy to flash? Good ROMS available? Anyone else have a G2 that replaced your Vibrant? Are you happier with the G2? ect.
Thanks.
Dougefresh91 said:
Is there anything I should know before making this trade?
Also, is the G2 easy to flash? Good ROMS available? Anyone else have a G2 that replaced your Vibrant? Are you happier with the G2? ect.
Thanks.
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if cyanogen has been 'good' to your opinion in the past, yes. there is a nightly gingerbread which i'm enjoying very much right now.
my g2 gets about a 16 day on a stock battery charge, light usage. heavy usage = 12 hours. no useage = not sure, but better than a day.
sorry, no comment on the vibrant.
I am wary of the person who want's to trade away his G2, because the G2 is obviously better than the vibrant in every single way.
If there is nothing wrong with his G2, fuking grab up that shiet ASAP.
Dev for G2 is great. There is at least like 4 different ROMS currently available. The community here is great. The G2 has better hardware...
nuff said
Yes trade it the G2 is much better
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HELL YEAH!!
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Can someone explain to me how the g2 is "better than the vibrant in every way"? Sure, the vibrant doesn't have the support the g2 does, but it can be just as quick, has a larger screen, lighter and sleeker.
Stock for stock, the g2 wins of course. Modded, it's personal opinion. I prefer the sleeker phone and don't need a physical keypad. If you need a physical keypad, obviously the g2 beats out just about everything else out there with one.
Sent from my <tw> powered vibrant.
okay so i got both these phones and i find that i like the vibrant better. i leave my g2 just sitting at my desk and i barely got it like a week or two ago. yes i did perm root it and it has s off and all that and its running a virtous (correct me if i got the name wrong) sense rom. i like my g2 sometimes but the vibrant right now has more development and the g2 hasnt really had any new roms for like a while now. so i stick to the vibrant becasue mostly everyday theres a new update to a rom or someone finds a cool hack. anyways i think you should stick to the vibrant, personally i like my vibrant more, plus correct me if im wrong but i havent seen a modem thread for the g2 or a dragon kernel or any of the things team whiskey puts together. please g2 fan boys dont hate me, i do love my g2 too (lol) and i actually find it useful sometimes. i just think the vibrant is doing better right now. imho thats what i think. : /
I had both, vibrants got a gorgeous screen, but thats about the only plus. Built quality and hardware are far superior on the G2. You don't need a 1.512 GHz phone, but isn't it nice to know its capable?
Having only slate phones for a year and a half (mt3g, Nexus, Virbant) after selling my G1, I taught would never need a physical keyboard, but after using the G2 for 2 weeks I can't see myself ever typing on the virtual keyboard, even tho I LOVE Swiftkey. Even with the insanely smart predictive UI of Swiftkey I still type much faster on a hardware keyboard.
I Have both a Vibrant and a G2. I love my G2, but I am considering selling my Vibrant. The build quality is much better on the G2. The two main two things I don't like about the Vibrant are the lack of trackpad and the seriously poor quality of the GPS. Also I like having the option of using a physical keyboard and I don't care for the screen, I prefer the higher pixel density of the G2 and the colors of the Vibrant seem a bit off to me. Plus let's not forget that the G2 supports 4G, and the Vibrant does not.
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I Have both a Vibrant and a G2. I love my G2, but I am considering selling my Vibrant. The build quality is much better on the G2. The two main two things I don't like about the Vibrant are the lack of trackpad and the seriously poor quality of the GPS. Also I like having the option of using a physical keyboard and I don't care for the screen, I prefer the higher pixel density of the G2 and the colors of the Vibrant seem a bit off to me. Plus let's not forget that the G2 supports 4G, and the Vibrant does not.
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okay so i got both these phones and i find that i like the vibrant better. i leave my g2 just sitting at my desk and i barely got it like a week or two ago. yes i did perm root it and it has s off and all that and its running a virtous (correct me if i got the name wrong) sense rom. i like my g2 sometimes but the vibrant right now has more development and the g2 hasnt really had any new roms for like a while now. so i stick to the vibrant becasue mostly everyday theres a new update to a rom or someone finds a cool hack. anyways i think you should stick to the vibrant, personally i like my vibrant more, plus correct me if im wrong but i havent seen a modem thread for the g2 or a dragon kernel or any of the things team whiskey puts together. please g2 fan boys dont hate me, i do love my g2 too (lol) and i actually find it useful sometimes. i just think the vibrant is doing better right now. imho thats what i think. : /
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This guy has obviously not try MIUI
Vibrant DOES NOT have more support that the G2
just look at t he G2 section and tell me there no new roms
every rom is CONSTANTLY updated with better support
vibrant only has like 2 good ROMS to try while G2 has 4 or so
each with unique features.
The Vibrant does have a bunch of ROMs available, however none of them have been completely stable for me. I thought with the official 2.2 release that would be fixed, but I'm still dealing with all the same crap.
I went and checked out the G2 in the store yesterday and I definitely like it. I think the screen looks great and can't understand why people bash it.
Dude that's willing to trade said I need to unlock the Vibrant first, which I think I've already managed. I'll definitely be trading.
Also, I noticed theres two G2 forums. Which is for the T-mobile version. Thanks again.
There are two phones called the G2. In the UK, there was a phone called the G2 Touch which was basically a Hero or some crap. The G2 in the USA, its this forum here, the G2 and Desire Z forums.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
I cannot think of a smartphone of this caliber with better battery life than the G2. I have had the vibrant and battery life was not as good
Thanks for all the replies, guys.
Thought of another question: what vital accessories did the phone come with? I read 8gig san disk class 2 sd. Wall charger, I assume. Car charger? Dock? Ect. Anything else I should know of? I figure I can test everything but wifi if I meet this dude somewhere random.
I am a proud G2 owner, it's a good phone. When my upgrade came I had the option to pick any of the t-mo phones. It was between the vibrant and the G2, but I got it for it's keyboard really... Also the fact that my previous phone was a G1, so it felt like it was the right phone to follow up on. I enjoy it. It does everything I want it to do and then some.
My girlfriend has a vibrant and it's also a fast phone. I've played games and console emulators on it with no problem. Sometimes her phone can be sluggish but she is stock and not rooted so I can't really say that it's the hardware. Only thing I dislike about it is the on-screen keyboard and 3G only data speeds.
If the G2 hadn't existed, I would probably be using a Vibrant. Really though it boils down to what you want in a device and there's a lot of choices out there. I mean why even ask us? Android was created to give you a choice. If you want limited options, go buy an iPhone hahaha.
(Side Note, There's a lot of douche bag's in these G2/Dz forums. Just check out the flame/actual support ratio in Q&A threads)
I'm another that has both. My wife is using my Vibrant right now me opting for either my G2 with Virtuous or my HD2 running Gingerbread. I really like the form factor of the Vibrant and the bigger screen. It's super thin and light and disappears in your pocket. The G2 on the other hand is much much heavier and makes a noticeable bulge in your pocket. Vibrant has a better screen that works better in sunlight. The thing I didn't like about the vibrant was how sluggish it felt in comparison to the G2. Both got me through a day with normal use though I might give a slight edge to the G2 in battery life. I never had a problem with the build quality of the vibrant. IMHO both are good phones. I went with the G2 because I just think it runs better in day to day use. But the weight and form factor have me seriously considering going back to the Vibrant. Honestly I like my HD2 better than either after all this time it's still my favorite piece of phone hardware I've ever used. I just wished it ran Android as good at the G2.
I've owned both, and can list the advantages of each.
Vibrant:
SAMOLED screen looks better
Larger screen (larger phone, too - maybe an issue)
Better sound
More internal storage (with limits - partition doesn't necessarily give more internal app storage since most is partitioned like SD storage)
G2:
Better, more durable build
Both trackpad and speaker grill LED notifications (Vibrant has none)
Functional GPS (huge deal for me)
Both vendor and community supported android development (much better than Vibrant)
Trackpad
Keyboard
Most everything else was the same, but I far prefer my G2 over the Vibrant, with no reservations at all. It's been a stellar performer and the community support is over the top, and the fact that it's Cyanogen's current fave doesn't hurt. I'm also assuming you're rooting both phones, since you're posting here.
I just made the switch last Friday. Vibrant on Bionix V vs G2 on CM6.1.1
The only thing the Vibrant has on the G2 is the screen. I absolutely love the Vibrant's screen.
IMO, you wont see GB on the Galaxy S line for awhile. Why? Galaxy uses RFS natively for its file system. And you can't say that because the Nexus S is on GB, it'll be easy to port to the Galaxy S line.
And lastly, the number one reason I made the switch was because the G2 will see better/faster GB support than the Vibrant. I don't want a phone that is orphaned as fast as the Vibrant has. Shoot, they have the Vibrant 4g now.
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I've owned both, and can list the advantages of each.
Vibrant:
SAMOLED screen looks better
Larger screen (larger phone, too - maybe an issue)
Better sound
More internal storage (with limits - partition doesn't necessarily give more internal app storage since most is partitioned like SD storage)
G2:
Better, more durable build
Both trackpad and speaker grill LED notifications (Vibrant has none)
Functional GPS (huge deal for me)
Both vendor and community supported android development (much better than Vibrant)
Trackpad
Keyboard
Most everything else was the same, but I far prefer my G2 over the Vibrant, with no reservations at all. It's been a stellar performer and the community support is over the top, and the fact that it's Cyanogen's current fave doesn't hurt. I'm also assuming you're rooting both phones, since you're posting here.
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Don't forget that there is no CM support for the Vibrant right now.
So I got caught up in the M-Atrix for a minute, but decided to take the blue pill (or was it the red pill?) and get out. Now though I am missing the ffc, battery life, and feel back here in DeZireland (G2), so I am thinking of swapping my G2 for a MT4G and I am looking for feedback from those that have made the journey already. What are your pros and cons? An inquiring mind wants to know.
My last phone was a G2. I thought it was a great phone. Internally both phones are about the same. If you are staying stock, you need to ask yourself do you like Vanilla Android, or do you like the MySense UI that the myTouch line offers. Hardware wise, the only difference between the two is the G2 has a keyboard and the MT4G has the FFC. They both have smartphone-like battery life.
If you are rooting, the UI is immaterial, as you could flash whichever you wanted on either phone. Personally, I found myself never using the physical keyboard because I love Swype. And while I don't use it for video chat, the FFC is cool as hell to me. As soon as I get a few more friends with FFCs I will be all over the video chat.
So I guess basically comes down to either the physical keyboard or FFC. Which do you want more?
The myTouch has 768mb of memory as opposed to the G2 with 512mb... only main difference than otherwise posted I love my mt4g much more than when I had the G2.. The hinge on the G2 ended up bugging me to the point where I used a rubber band to hold it closed (I then just exchanged it for the mTouch lol).
Both phones are great minus a few small issues.. G2's vanilla is nice for dev's and people who don't like Sense (Sense rocks with a small overclock in my opinion). I liked the notification light built around the trackpad on the G2. The slightly larger screen on the mTouch was noticeable for me, and the overall thinness.
Well I happen to own both of the phones. And I have to say that MyTouch 4G is much better! They both have almost the same specs but you really notice the difference when running many apps at once. The MyTouch 4g is a mutlitasking monster with 768MB ram! And coupled with faux123's kernel you can't go wrong! Only thing I like ym G2 for is playing SNESoid and others. But i'm about to get bluetooth controller so... GO MYTOUCH!
I just switched from the G2 to the myTouch 4G...personally think I've done the better decision...actually went from G2 -> Vibrant 4G -> myTouch4G.
I actually ran the myTouch4G rom on my G2 so there isn't anything different rom wise but performance I think it runs much faster than the G2 did and I haven't overclocked mine.
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Well I happen to own both of the phones. And I have to say that MyTouch 4G is much better! They both have almost the same specs but you really notice the difference when running many apps at once. The MyTouch 4g is a mutlitasking monster with 768MB ram! And coupled with faux123's kernel you can't go wrong! Only thing I like ym G2 for is playing SNESoid and others. But i'm about to get bluetooth controller so... GO MYTOUCH!
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WOAH WHERE CAN I HAS GET CONTROLLER I WANTS ONE!!!
link pls
I own both. I really love both.
I feel like the my touch is growing on me. Specwise it flies. G2 is slick. It feels so science ficción.
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They also have different processors. The G2 has an 800Mhz Scorpion and the myTouch has a 1Ghz Snapdragon.
I just made the switch from G2 to mT4G. Couldn't be happier. I thought I would use the keyboard on the G2 but never did. The mT4G is lighter and much thinner.
I will say that IMO the Dev scene is better for the G2 than the mT4G. Just my opinion... But if you are going to use CM it doesn't matter.
FFC Rocks!
Passed on the G2 to the wife. Couldn't stand the bulk and the hinge. The MT4G is faster due to the RAM and slightly faster processor, but not noticeably when both running CM7. The G2 is a better looking phone and seems built better (except for the hinge) as my MT4G has creaky buttons, dust under the lens and just a generally funky collection of textures and material colors. If I wasn't planning on rooting the MT4G, I probably would have kept the G2 to avoid the Sense bloat.
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Wouldn't you know it! As soon as I started this thread I dropped my G2 and now it has a bunch of fracking scratches on the screen! Anyway you guys have convinced me! Anyone wanna trade a MT4G for a not-so-mint-anymore-G2?
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So I got caught up in the M-Atrix for a minute, but decided to take the blue pill (or was it the red pill?) and get out. Now though I am missing the ffc, battery life, and feel back here in DeZireland (G2), so I am thinking of swapping my G2 for a MT4G and I am looking for feedback from those that have made the journey already. What are your pros and cons? An inquiring mind wants to know.
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I was originally in love with the G2 but held off because I realized I would never use the hardware keyboard anyway.
Opted for the MT4G for these reasons:
-more ram
-faster base processor speed (overclocking makes this kind of moot though)
-front-facing camera
-software doesn't matter because I run CyanogenMod on everything anyway
I do really love the look and feel of the G2 but after playing with it I realized I'm more comfortable on a touch screen keyboard. Now that I have CM7 on my phone I'm absolutely in love with it. The only thing I wish it had is the lighted ring around the trackpad like the G2.
I still think the G2 is a very sexy piece of hardware.
So I finally made it to T-Mobile today and played with the new phone. Overall, I'm disappointed with the build quality. I was wanting to get this phone to replace my G2 but the build quality on the G2 feels a lot better. Of course I'm already use to the G2's keyboard layout and the tactile feedback is a lot better than the slide. Also, the physical menu buttons on the slide, which I prefer, could be made a lot better. The optical pad worked a lot better (more sensitive) than my G2, but so did the demo G2 . And the sliding on the slide seemed very poor.
I am in love with the camera and it's features though. And yes its dual core processor and ram. But that's it. I'm guess I'm waiting either for the next G phone with a physical keyboard or HTC's next super phone.
Until then, I'm thankful for the doubleshot rom! Loving the camera on that one.
Anyone feel the same?
I think in general us keyboard lovers are gonna have to start seeing the writing on the wall. Keyboard phones are on the way out. Their a huge rarity now and only getting more obscure. I like a keyboard but I'm not like many people on here where I HAVE to have a keyboard. Pretty soon only option is gonna be a blackberry LMFAO LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry just the thought of even touching one of those outdated pieces of junk makes me laugh.
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hahaha. I might tell myself I don't need TO HAVE but I think I do. lol. It stopped me from picking up the sensation. Either that, or the funding. haha. But I still have my blackberry 9780 with me! haha. I carry it around for my phone numbers... but lately I haven't been carrying it around. Thanks to the cloud. lol. And the keys on there are too small now. Although it is fast and easy to text... that's about all it's good for. Well, maybe a mp3 player too. haha
I'm just not super hot on the looks of the MT4GS. I just think the MyTouch line has always been too flashy, chromy and has the "genious button". Not to mention that I'm not a big fan of the skin.
If you really need a keyboard I would hope that a "G3" would be coming out eventually by the time that the G2 has lost all relevance. They've done the G1 and G2, why not continue? I havent heard anything about this though. I'm just expecting it considering the G2 is coming up on 1yr old in October. The MT4GS is kind of a next progression in keyboard phones after the G2, but I'd really expect them to have another "G" device, as they have kept the MyTouch and G lines separate.
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I think in general us keyboard lovers are gonna have to start seeing the writing on the wall. Keyboard phones are on the way out. Their a huge rarity now and only getting more obscure. I like a keyboard but I'm not like many people on here where I HAVE to have a keyboard.
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I used the keyboard a ton when I first got the phone, but I've started to use it less and less unless I need to nail out a big e-mail or forum post. I like to have it but have a hard time justifying the weight and thickness to have something I won't always use. I don't think I'll be in need of a keyboard on my next device.
I always think that there will be keyboard phones though. There's always going to be a market for it, but I dont expect each manufacturer to have more than 1 keyboard phone out at a time.
For all us Qwerty addicts....
Start drooling
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_galaxy_s_ii-4071.php
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For all us Qwerty addicts....
Start drooling
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_galaxy_s_ii-4071.php
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Why would anybody drool over that piece of trash? Look at the layout of the keyboard -- useless.
I suppose the dual core processor, the tegra 2 equivalent gpu and Sammies build quality is of no matter to you.
Have you tried it out to know its useless? Or can you judge by a 3d rendering of the phone how the keyboard feels?
I would rather upgrade to a qwerty smartphone with sense ui. Best ui ever
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So I finally made it to T-Mobile today and played with the new phone. 1)Overall, I'm disappointed with the build quality. I was wanting to get this phone to replace my G2 but the build quality on the G2 feels a lot better. 2)Of course I'm already use to the G2's keyboard layout and the tactile feedback is a lot better than the slide. 3)Also, the physical menu buttons on the slide, which I prefer, could be made a lot better. 4)The optical pad worked a lot better (more sensitive) than my G2, but so did the demo G2 . 5)And the sliding on the slide seemed very poor.
6)I am in love with the camera and it's features though. And yes its dual core processor and ram. But that's it. I'm guess I'm waiting either for the next G phone with a physical keyboard or HTC's next super phone.
Until then, I'm thankful for the doubleshot rom! Loving the camera on that one.
Anyone feel the same?
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(I bought the MT4GS on wednesday.. here are my thoughts)
1) build quality is solid. they used a lot more plastic than on the G2 (could be a pro or con depending on your viewpoint), yes, and it's nowhere near as sexy as the G2 (not many phones are, imo), but it's not going to fall into pieces.
2) with you there 100%... it's just a learning curve, though. pretty soon I'll forget the G2 keyboard. they are nearly identical anyway, only a few minor differences, including the tactile feedback.
3) my only gripe with the buttons is the genius button.. I don't need a specific button mapped to pull an application that does what the OS already does so well with a "search" button... it just seems like a waste and a silly marketing gimmick. otherwise, they work well enough. I keep placing, rather than pushing, my fingers on the buttons though and am confused when nothing happens.. then I realize I have to push, hehe.
4) the optical trackpad is much better, imo, than the G2's. I thought the G2's would be very responsive and accurate, but it just wasn't... and I kept it extremely clean so it didn't have anything to do with gunk buildup. the MT4GS trackpad is fluid, responsive and accurate even when dirty.. very nice.
5) I really liked the G2's z-hinge personally, so going back to more of a Dream style (not the same hinge obviously, but similar in effort needed to pop it out) kb is a little weird.. but it feels durable and has a nice "locked" feeling that you didn't get from the G2. those of you who lost sleep over the z-hinge would be very happy with the Slide's hinge mechanism.
6) this, ultimately, is the selling point for me. the rest of the stuff is whatever... the hardware specs are impressive. I haven't even been toting my digicam anymore, there's no need... the Slide takes seriously awesome photos and video. once we get s-off and get some good development going, I foresee great things for the MT4GS.
is it worth the upgrade? in my opinion, after buying the MT4GS, no... it's really not. is it nice to have a new toy with some cool features that I wished the G2 could have had? you know it.
This would fall under "General" or "Q&A" but we all know that no one clicks on those tabs anymore, in addition this has a little to do with development. Seeing that the mt3gs is ancient in smartphone years and that our major developers have moved on, I figured we could start a comparison thread. Before I start I would like to thank all the teams that worked hard for all of us to better enjoy the "slide"; Team Cyanogen, Arrayray, CR, CM, Guitarist, Highly Medicated so on and so on. (if I missed anyone its not personal your work is also appreciated.) With that being said its time to discuss what's next..
I myself am almost due for an upgrade and would like the communities opinion on where to go next. Right now I have two options MyTouch 4G Slide versus HTC Sensation. So far the advantage of mt4gs is the awesome camera software and hardware, but lacks in the screen section which is not qHD. I'm open to discussion and opinions, also if there is any other phone you'd like to mention please do so.
It would be nice to get a mt4gs since a lot of our devs went that route and I'd be able to keep following them but I seen some nice development in the Sensation community as well. Any opinions?
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I have seen them both and I have to say the sensation is one of the best phones I have ever seen. It has a beautiful design and a really clear camera with 1080p HD camera. If you ask me, id go with the sensation. But that's only my opinion, in the end its all down to personal perspective. Whether you like a slide out keyboard or you like having a large screen. It all depends what you like.
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This would fall under "General" or "Q&A" but we all know that no one clicks on those tabs anymore, in addition this has a little to do with development. Seeing that the mt3gs is ancient in smartphone years and that our major developers have moved on, I figured we could start a comparison thread. Before I start I would like to thank all the teams that worked hard for all of us to better enjoy the "slide"; Team Cyanogen, Arrayray, CR, CM, Guitarist, Highly Medicated so on and so on. (if I missed anyone its not personal your work is also appreciated.) With that being said its time to discuss what's next..
I myself am almost due for an upgrade and would like the communities opinion on where to go next. Right now I have two options MyTouch 4G Slide versus HTC Sensation. So far the advantage of mt4gs is the awesome camera software and hardware, but lacks in the screen section which is not qHD. I'm open to discussion and opinions, also if there is any other phone you'd like to mention please do so.
It would be nice to get a mt4gs since a lot of our devs went that route and I'd be able to keep following them but I seen some nice development in the Sensation community as well. Any opinions?
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Agreed, on both posts, I do have a long time before I can upgrade (got this as a gift) but i figure I will jus pay cash for one from like amazon.com or something! and The Sensation is Absolutely hands down the best Android Phone to date! HOWEVER, while I am still a slide user, i will develop for it proudly!
Just got a 4g slide today and am liking it the way it is so far. I HATED sense on my 3g slide but Sense 3.0 is much better IMO. Camera is awesome as well. I need the hard keyboard so my choice was easy.
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Thank you guys for your opinions and input. I went and demo'd both phones today and I found something interesting.. the HTC Sensation is shipped with 2.3.3 while the mytouch 4G slide ships with 2.3.4. When I checked for an update on the sensation nothing showed up. Im sure they'll have the update soon
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The update for the sensation is being pushed out as we speak lol
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The update for the sensation is being pushed out as we speak lol
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Nice!
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Thx for the mention, but i feel like all i did was get people's toes wet concerning gingerbread with sense. Really wish i had time to do more for everyone. Thankfully team medicated worked hard to bring a working gingerbread rom for us.
As far as a new phone, its almost scary to buy a new phone knowing something better will be out in 6 months or so and we're stuck with that phone for another 18 months. Personally, i've looked so many times at other phones that i think the store reps know my face by now lol. I just cant bring myself to spend hundreds of dollars to get with the hottest handset. Its tough, but waiting till im due for a full discount on a new handset. Im really intreaged to see what google's next handset is going to be. It should be out by mid 2012. I just hope its better than the nexus s. Lets face it, nexus one blew us away, but the nexus s was a bit of a let down. A beautiful handset, i just expect a google phone to be the best out there.
Personally, at the start, i really hated the Slide and was getting disappointed that i even bought it. It's only thanks to developers here that had the SalsaSlide made possible that i've actually started enjoying using it.
As for a new phone, i don't run after technology, i've learned that it's a losing race and if my phone keeps working, then i see no reason of upgrading it just for saying i have the latest. What can i say, i'm not an apple fanatic that will rush to spend hundreds just to get the exact same phone in white
Anyway, if i'll be fully honest with you guys, once they get Android on the Fuze as native OS. I'd probably be switching to it, so instead of upgrading i'd be downgrading
Guitarist you deserve to be credited, in my opinion you introduced gingersense to the slide which gave devs the jumpstart to want to incorporate sense back into roms. Thanx again. Undoubtedly there will always be another smarter phone that's just how it goes. I also understand Sefy also, it is not only money draining to keep up with the latest handset but it is a bit cliche for that matter. (my secondary is still an iPhone 3gs, never upgrading my Apple handset)
Speaking of phones dropping in 2012, I stumbled upon an article earlier that's a game changer for Google. Google has agreed to buy Motorola mobility for 12.5 billion. Here's the article
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110815-708280.html
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I've been using a G2x since June. I do miss the slide's community though. Not that it should really affect what phone you get.
I decided that now that I have a phone with not just one, but two 1ghz cores I can rest, haha. I hate looking at the G2x forums though, at least general anyways. It's full of trolls and rudeness, lol.
I kind of wish I had stuck it out a little longer and got the mt4gs and feel like I upgraded rather than just went to a new phone completely.
It IS fast though. I got lucky enough to not get one of the terrible ones.
Wow I felt like this a while ago and I am torn about getting a new phone when there are a lot of phones out there and its hard to choose what to get next. Mt4gs looks like a great phone and might jump ship to it.
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The developing community for the Slide slowed down a long time ago. I stopped really even checking back, haven't logged in for ages. I'm due for an upgrade on September 16th, and I'm DEFINITELY going for the HTC Sensation. The screen is bigger, super high resolution, 1080p video shooting, and better battery life. I liked having a physical keyboard with my Slide, but it is cumbersome as it makes the phone significantly thicker and heavier. On an MDPI device I would go for the hard keyboard, but on HDPI, ESPECIALLY qHD 4.3" screens, I have no problem typing on the screen's keyboard. It's worth the thinner and lighter phone. Plus, on the Sensation, almost the entire front of the phone is screen space. The mts4g seems to have a thick frame around the screen, especially on the top of it, which I don't like. Yeah, sure, the camera features of the mts4g are certainly attractive, but at least for me, since my Slide camera has been broken ever since I got the phone and I was never that big of a camera user to begin with, the Sensation is a MUCH better bet. Both phones are the same price.
I had the mt3gs since It's release, after much thought and consideration, I decided that like this forum it was dead, so I upgraded with the myTouch 4G Slide. I love it, the keyboard, the screen, the look and feel. It's just like I ran my mt3gs through an update machine and the MT4GS was the result. Although it doesn't have the giant 4.3 inch touch screen and while it is not a not a super light phone, I have had a great experience so far.
The camera, let's start there, fast, clear, macro settings better than any phone I've seen so far, don't believe me, my Google+ profile has a pic of a mosquito I took with no zoom. (Link on profile) the sweep shot, the HDR multi shot that layers different white balance shots up to get great definition and color in bright light, (backlit pics as well). The action shot and shutter (as long as the camera app is already open) is just as fast as they claim, but if not held very still can be just slightly blurred, but better still than most mid grade digital cameras on the market. The only thing keeping this camera from being an actual replacement it the lack of an optical zoom. Oh and night shots....they are pretty nice as well.
The screen, 3.7" inches, Super LCD, is crisp and clear, with resolution that has honestly impressed me. The best part? You have a screen that's big enough to enjoy watching videos on and you don't feel like your gonna break your thumbs trying to reach the screen's extremities. Although I do wish it was just a little larger when gaming.
The processor, a 1.2GHz Dual Core, Snapdragon, is a beautiful change from the 600mhz of the mt3gs, finally games and apps that none of us could enjoy like Gun Bros, Need for Speed, Dungeon Defenders, and Google Earth are smooth and flowing. Even Quadrant standard's video benchmarks are now enjoyable to watch.
The keyboard, which is the reason anyone wants the phone is quite different from it's predecessor's or any others I've seen or used. The buttons are almost flat and press very easily, almost too easily at first but after about a week of using it, it's almost a pleasure to use, just be careful of the back button when typing the letter 'M', I have lost several Facebook posts, even part of this post so far.
Sense 3.0 is beautiful but it and it's components eat up 3GB of the MT4GS 4GB of on-board storage and around 40% of its 768MB of RAM. And T-Mobile's removal of the 7 screen option and lockscreen shortcuts make it slightly frustrating.
Kid Zone is also a big annoyance, while it is a neat alternative lockscreen geared toward kids is built into sense and not exactly what I would make for a child.
The '4G' aspect is not quite all its claimed to be, in Pittsburgh averaging 3-4 Mbps, but is quite a bit more reliable than I would have thought. The GPS is fast to lock, till rooted it seems, and compass and multiple rotation sensors make it crazy accurate and very sensitive. This makes it great for gaming, almost as good as a gyroscope, if not slightly better in some aspects. And the Bluetooth 3.0 makes file pushes fast and simple. And the usb transfers at around 4MB/s making video upload easy.
The over all feel of the phone is awkward at first being just slightly thicker than the HTC glacier(MT4G) yet not as thick and stocky as the mt3gs, it has grown on me more everyday, and I am very happy I made this choice.
My over all rating of this phone would be a 4.5 out of 5, it is a beautiful piece of technology, and should be relevant for a while to come.
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Neanderthal, thanx for that beautiful review and sharing your personal experience with the mt4gs. I also must admit after I demo'd the handset I've been wanting it more and more.
Speaking of other phones, does anyone know if the Nokia N9 will work on tmobile? It's a sick piece of equipment and IS the best camera for smart phone. The UI is effin dope and from specs and reviews this phone is killer. Any help will be appreciated .. thanx again for all the input. If there are any other phones out there please post. (worthy of posting)
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You could always wait it out for the samsung hercules, nexus prime and htc ruby to show up. As far as i know they should all be hitting the market fairly soon. Just a suggestion
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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With the release of sense 3.0 it wouldn't surprise me if phones with sense got updates sooner. Either way thanks your input. Let us know how that G2X goes for you
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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As a fellow G2x member, I say welcome! However to the updates, I'd have to say... Nope. We don't quite have Vanilla android... We waited a few months for Gingerbread and when we got it, it was "half-baked" and still not exactly Vanilla.
But the phone is a beast. Do enjoy it, cause I know I do.
And there's always rooting and roms.