[Q] Problem on Hard-SPL for SPL3.20 - Touch Cruise ROM Development

My device has flash to official 6.1 and SPL3.20, it hold on "0%" when I make Hard-SPL, Have anyone know how to make Hard-SPL on official SPL3.20??

Did you try using hard spl V2 first? check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351964
also Stock ROMs can usually be flashed without Hard SPL. Put your device in bootloader, and then run the RUU on your desktop.

I had try many time Hard-SPL-V2 and PolarisUnlocker, it also failure hold on 0% and waiting timeout, does someone have other solution? or can I flash back to Wm 6.0 version?

raycho said:
I had try many time Hard-SPL-V2 and PolarisUnlocker, it also failure hold on 0% and waiting timeout, does someone have other solution? or can I flash back to Wm 6.0 version?
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maybe you need to fix a bad ROM flash via Mtty

Thanks Hakim Rahman !! do you mean I can use "task_28" and "task 29" to clean data ?

raycho said:
Thanks Hakim Rahman !! do you mean I can use "task_28" and "task 29" to clean data ?
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seem you already know !! I was told do'nt do task 2a if you do not want device die

Thanks! Go study and try!!

Related

artemis USPL - improvements

I was asked to patch USPL for ROM size checking when flashing via RUU, so this version does not check size even when flashing via USB. (original SPL skips the size checks only when SD flashing.)
I did this a few days ago, but didn't get around to posting it
download from attachment, enjoy! donations are always appreciated to the "To Cmonex" link in my signature
how to use it: if you already have a version of artemis USPL installed, simply flash this new version using RUU or from SD (ARTEIMG.NBH on FAT32 formatted SD)
in bootloader (tricolour mode) it should then say version: 1.11.cmon
for instructions on installing any USPL if you have no USPL yet - check out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403 until I have more time/motivation for userfriendly packaging
more plans: if I get time/motivation I might upgrade this to be full HSPL (overwrite protection)
Well done Cmonex..!
Thanks so much.
Peoples of Artemis forum wait it long times already.
Thread Sticked.
Cheers ..!
cmonex said:
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more plans: if I get time/motivation I might upgrade this to be full HSPL (overwrite protection)
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Then with full HSPL, i see a lot of bricks coming to "life".
Hope u get motivated enough.
Thanks Cmonex, excelent stuff.
Thanks !
But I dont really understand. Can Flash under vista ou seven with no drivers ?
it's the same process.
The difference is that you can flash any rom without size limits.
Before you only could do this with SD Card method.
not working
its not working
it gives the same error : invalid size
canu explain step by step plzzzz
Is you bootloader showing SPL 1.11.cmon?
i have replaced the nbh file of artemis uspl with this one
then started uspl after that once it gets over i started
ruu upgrade utility
thats the way how it is done or something else
during this process no bootloader screen comes
And where is the response to my question? ....
drlalitbida said:
i have replaced the nbh file of artemis uspl with this one
then started uspl after that once it gets over i started
ruu upgrade utility
thats the way how it is done or something else
during this process no bootloader screen comes
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you need to enter the tricolour screen to check version.
fhcoolos said:
Thanks !
But I dont really understand. Can Flash under vista ou seven with no drivers ?
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does artemis have an issue with vista? tell me what kind of problem please
thats what i have written
no bootloader screen comes in between the upgrade process
drlalitbida said:
thats what i have written
no bootloader screen comes in between the upgrade process
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you have to manually go to bootloader to flash the image
cmonex said:
does artemis have an issue with vista? tell me what kind of problem please
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Usb drivers while u enter bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1312109&postcount=118
Cheers.
I want to thank you very much for this useful work. However I couldn't try it yet Because at the end of the rom update utility application (I mean %100) it gives a error 270 udate error image file corrupted. Please check your update utility I have tried all these attempts while my phone is at the bootloader mode.
Thank you in advance
Can I just replace the RUU_USPL_signed.nbh file with the one from the "Artemis Update SPL (USPL) v.01 - Another way to flash *ANY* rom to your device" thread?
oh!thanx!it's funny!
sean777 said:
Can I just replace the RUU_USPL_signed.nbh file with the one from the "Artemis Update SPL (USPL) v.01 - Another way to flash *ANY* rom to your device" thread?
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Yes. All other files are the same.. infact you need to because zip does not have start_uspl.exe
need urgent help........
hello everyone ....i want to upgrade my o2 orbit wm6 to wm 6.1 or any cooked rom currently i am using wm6 but the problem is my active syncro is not working is there any other to start uspl without acive syncro.....give some suggestions ...thank for ur time...
Hello!
Is there any way to load USPL from bootloader (without ActiveSync)?
Regards!

[SSPL] HowTo flash cooked ROM without HSPL

We need some beta testers here to make this stable.
Beta testing phase only for advanced users; don't want to explain how to flash a ship ROM using the original SPL to your device!
This is an easy way to flash unsigned OS images to the HD2. It should not void your warranty like HSPLs do, because it does not change your SPL. I know for a fact, that repair centers are advised to check the SPL version number on the device.
How safe is it?
We disabled SPL and Radio flashing, so it can only flash Splashes and OS images.
(To all hackers out there... don’t enable it! else you will BRICK your device)
Worst case is that you destroy your OS partition, in that case you must flash a ship ROM using the original SPL (Vol down on boot run ruu from PC )
We did our best to make it save, else we would not release it for public testing, but anyway, all on your own risk!
How to use it:
Download the SSPL_RUU.exe and put it into an empty folder
Add the RUU_signed.nbh that you want to flash to your device into the same folder
Connect the device to the PC, device must be running WM, not show the 3 color screen
Run SSPL_RUU.exe
Done, flashing should start!
*** Watch me doing it ***
... btw, my device is still working after using it over 100 times
Troubleshooting:
If you don’t see USB at the bottom of the device screen and the ruu showed a connection error, disconnect the device and connect it again... USB should be there now.
Then just run the SSPL_RUU.exe again, flashing will start now
If the flashing breaks before 100%, stay cool! ... Reset the device and go to Boot loader, then flash a ship rom to the device (Must be the right rom, with the right CID)
Don’t forget to report that it happened... after you flashed the original ROM back, you can try again.
It is possible, that sometimes the screen stays black for 15sec or more before the SSPL 3 color screen shows, if it takes too long, do reset and try again and please report that!!!!
"Your OS ROM isn't customized for your hardware. Please reflash the proper ROM code or contact the service center", !!! Problem NOT related to this SSPL !!! ... this means that you flashed a region protected rom... flash back to a ship ROM for your device and stick to ROMs with your region ID... or patch them (You might have to remove the battery after flashing back, else it might not boot up)
Link:
Link: View attachment SSPL_RUU.zip
Thanks for testing!
cotulla and bepe
Attachment is being investigated for possible un-witting virus content.
EDIT: Our conclusion is that although Kaspersky throws up an alert, this is likely to be a false positive result. But use your own scanners as always with any download.
well done bro
Stuck thread !
Tom
Amazing job bepe!
And very nice to see you here!
Hi Bepe
thanks, it works.
with friendly greet
starbase64
nice bepe, thx
works flawless
Thank you mate, which custom rom are you using? I cannot find any ROM to download. Thanks..
Does this tool make goldcards "obsolete"? I know this tool doesnt flash radio but other than that? Is it possible to flash, say the 1.61, by simply drag'n drop the 1.61 firmware in the folder?
Bepe, it works fine for me..
If you get things go wrong with this, it's down to user error..
yep Bepe, when i got the Beta on Christmas Eve it flashed 1st time.....
well done guy's,
Spike
Where are you able to find cooked OS's for the HD2? I can't seems to find any... Only "soon to be released" ones...
pspbirte said:
Does this tool make goldcards "obsolete"? I know this tool doesnt flash radio but other than that? Is it possible to flash, say the 1.61, by simply drag'n drop the 1.61 firmware in the folder?
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yes, it is possible to flash signed full roms too... it will just skip the SPL and Radio part and continue with flashing the other parts
this is public testing... so make sure you have an original rom with the right CID for the worst case
For rom cooks thats very important ... when cooking roms it's possible that the OS does not boot up or that USB does not work...
... SSPL needs a working OS to do it's job, so you need a way to flash your device without this SSPL
very nice ... will test later ...
fards said:
Bepe, it works fine for me..
If you get things go wrong with this, it's down to user error..
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For me it is working perfectly too, but we had some timing problem on another device... I hope all is fixed now
PS, that other device is also still working! ... just flashed back an original rom
pspbirte said:
Where are you able to find cooked OS's for the HD2? I can't seems to find any... Only "soon to be released" ones...
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was not possible to flash until now, so the cooks where not able to cook roms...
HAPPY COOKING!!!
Thanks bepe and all who helped!
seed_al said:
Thanks bepe and all who helped!
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Cotulla, he is the guy who did most of it!
Thank's bepe
tested now and work well for me
Bepe, first thanks for your efforts. I just made a ROM and tried to flash but I got "Invalid Vendor ID" when tried to flash @ 1%.
Should the custom created ROM have anything special?
any cooked rom guys to test?
Thanks bepe and Cotulla,
it works perfect with my self cooked rom.
Tried with a now german 1.61 base - everything is fine.
Nice late christmas present
kindly regards
Anja31

Help!! Uninstall HARDSPL goes wrong.

Hello!
Like the title says: HARDSPL goes wrong.
I need to uninstall hardspl so i can use my warranty.
I have follow the tutorial in this thread how to uninstall it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
When the flash is compleated and its time for reboot i got this message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWWpBbQTPb8
If i take out the memorycard and reboot i got this message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4S-Rcqwlsc
If i try to reflash i getting the same message as the firs plus it says "upgrade ROM code error please try agen"
Can some one please help me out with this?
And yes i have done a hard reset.
And yes i have try to boot via usb to reflash.
If its to any help i used a ROM from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717 tha one called "LEO2.07"
I think you have to find official ROM which was installed on you HD2 before you changed HARDSPL and installed cooked ROM. You'll find all official ROM's in Leo Official ROMs thread. When you find the right one install it from your SD card. Hope this helps
mitja12 said:
I think you have to find official ROM which was installed on you HD2 before you changed HARDSPL and installed cooked ROM. You'll find all official ROM's in Leo Official ROMs thread. When you find the right one install it from your SD card. Hope this helps
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Like I said. I have used a rom from official rom thread=) I also tryed the rom from htc.com with same resoult.
Can I uninstall a bad flash or something and start from the beginning ? Cuz now im stockt in my situation.
Like I said you have to find the "right" one. It's not just any official ROM. I my case I had to install some really old ROM. Unfortunately I don't know how to find the right one, just use the trial and error method.
mitja12 said:
Like I said you have to find the "right" one. It's not just any official ROM. I my case I had to install some really old ROM. Unfortunately I don't know how to find the right one, just use the trial and error method.
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Okej! Sorry for missunderstanding. So the only way out is to try everyone ?
I was lucky to get the first released hd2 in my city, so i bett its a old one =)
Does it have to be the same language release to ?
In official ROMs thread is link to Shared folder for shipped Leo ROMs. In there are very well organised ROMs by country and carrier, you should find it quick enough. Just start with 1.43 and 1.48 and only those which matches your country and/or carrier.
or just to HTCs website and get it from there (assuming its not a vendor locked device)
mitja12 said:
In official ROMs thread is link to Shared folder for shipped Leo ROMs. In there are very well organised ROMs by country and carrier, you should find it quick enough. Just start with 1.43 and 1.48 and only those which matches your country and/or carrier.
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I have trayd every rom that compatibility with my region "SVE" and its not working. I still get the message "upgrade rom code error please try agen". In the 1.43 i cant find my region, does that meens that is it impossible that i could have been that release of rom ?
Does sombody knows if there any way to cheack the stock ROM from a serialnumber or somthning like that?
lovenvik said:
I have trayd every rom that compatibility with my region "SVE" and its not working. I still get the message "upgrade rom code error please try agen". In the 1.43 i cant find my region, does that meens that is it impossible that i could have been that release of rom ?
Does sombody knows if there any way to cheack the stock ROM from a serialnumber or somthning like that?
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Thinks getting better!
I find a new SD card, so i use this insted of the stock SD card.
No a white screen with a blue "Loading..." text appers.
BUT. its always a BUT. In this screen the phone freeze.
lovenvik said:
Thinks getting better!
I find a new SD card, so i use this insted of the stock SD card.
No a white screen with a blue "Loading..." text appers.
BUT. its always a BUT. In this screen the phone freeze.
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does it freeze on the HTC splash screen?
djchubbs said:
does it freeze on the HTC splash screen?
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Dont realy know what that its. But I press vol down and start bottom. Then the tri-colored screen shows up "bootloader" for about 1 second. Then i got this screen http://img405.imageshack.us/i/20090607028.jpg/
I have let it load for about 20min, then i gave up.
I'm afraid to say this, but you have SPL 2.07, which means you are on 'official SPL' and can only flash TMOS Official ROM (since the only SPL 2.07 is tied to US ROM)
I think the only way is to use goldcard, to flash your country's official ROM via sdcard (although I'm not sure if that will work, because I read some folks have problem with that)
Its seems i also have a problem flashing a stock rom for warranty reasons.
I did the following steps:
1. Get an official stock rom. (in my case it would me a NLD ROm 1.48)
2. Put it on storage card en change to LEOIMG.nbh
3. Turn of phone, press volume down en power up unntil tri color screen apears.
4. Follow steps on sreen.
But. I dont get step 4. On step it says for 1 sec ''loading''. After that, it goes back to the trii colour HARDSPL screen.
Does anyone know what im doing wrong?
I tried two different SD cards. A 2 gb version and a 4 gb version (both from Scandisk formatted as FAT32)
Is there a way/possible to flash a stock rom using activesync?
zenkinz said:
I'm afraid to say this, but you have SPL 2.07, which means you are on 'official SPL' and can only flash TMOS Official ROM (since the only SPL 2.07 is tied to US ROM)
I think the only way is to use goldcard, to flash your country's official ROM via sdcard (although I'm not sure if that will work, because I read some folks have problem with that)
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Okej :O. Im not 100% sure what you meen, but is my warranty valid then?
Im gona send my hd2 in to htc cuz my display is broke. So i perhaps get a new phone. So the only thing im intrested in is to get my warranty valid.
lovenvik said:
Okej :O. Im not 100% sure what you meen, but is my warranty valid then?
Im gona send my hd2 in to htc cuz my display is broke. So i perhaps get a new phone. So the only thing im intrested in is to get my warranty valid.
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hehe thats the same reason i want to sent my phone back.. its probably cost 213,- euro for me
You flashed it using the SD card method?
People with the same problem in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630843
In post #64 fards helped XMOO get the device working again, only with SPL 2.07... maybe the rest of the thread provides more info or solutions. I didn't read any further.
lovenvik said:
Hello!
Like the title says: HARDSPL goes wrong.
I need to uninstall hardspl so i can use my warranty.
I have follow the tutorial in this thread how to uninstall it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
When the flash is compleated and its time for reboot i got this message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWWpBbQTPb8
If i take out the memorycard and reboot i got this message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4S-Rcqwlsc
If i try to reflash i getting the same message as the firs plus it says "upgrade ROM code error please try agen"
Can some one please help me out with this?
And yes i have done a hard reset.
And yes i have try to boot via usb to reflash.
If its to any help i used a ROM from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717 tha one called "LEO2.07"
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why dont you try out from this thread ,it has videos to how uninstall hspl
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621930
lovenvik said:
Okej :O. Im not 100% sure what you meen, but is my warranty valid then?
Im gona send my hd2 in to htc cuz my display is broke. So i perhaps get a new phone. So the only thing im intrested in is to get my warranty valid.
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No, your warranty is invalid as you're using an SPL/ROM not for your region - hence why you shouldn't flash a ROM from the SD card as this is the issue you have. You're now stuck with a broken HD2 until HSPL can be used on SPL 2.x
EddyOS said:
No, your warranty is invalid as you're using an SPL/ROM not for your region - hence why you shouldn't flash a ROM from the SD card as this is the issue you have. You're now stuck with a broken HD2 until HSPL can be used on SPL 2.x
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Okej. Thats not good Hope some one release a HSPL 2.xx then =) But now i can't even use my phone anymore.
(just to double check)when you boot to bootloader, what does it say next to spl?
if it says spl 2.x then the above posts are correct, and you are stuck with spl2 until hspl2 is released.
You CAN get your phone working again, even with spl 2.
You need a goldcard, and you can then flash the 2.x official rom which will at least get your phone working. Once it is working, you can then flash custom roms using sspl BUT ONLY roms based on the 2.x official rom, and you won't be able to change radios using sspl. The only way you can change your radio is flashing a 2.x official rom with the goldcard.

HTC Opal WM 6.1 WWE 1.35.720.2 Stock ROM

Hi All,
For those of you, who wants to go back to the WM 6.1 WWE 1.35.720.2 Stock ROM on the Viva, here it is...
This is the lastest english ROM that you can get from HTC. You may use this for warranty purpose or if you prefer going back to the stock ROM. This ROM has the Idea logo. The entire package was assembled from official HTC updates and has no customization/personalization at all. After applying this, you may want to use "stockspl" (see sticky thread) for warranty purpose.
Cheers!
thanks ddl.team but after flashing, it says: Your OS ROM isn't customized for your hardware. Please reflash the proper ROM code or contact the service center.
Thank you ddl.team. After flashing, I receive the same message "Your OS isn't customized for your hardware."
me 2
HI I recive that message to, the big problem is that I can't install another ROM after this, I tried to flash hard spl 1 and 2 but it has no effect. Please give me a solution.
Okay. This ROM has the official Radio, IPL, SPL and Splash. If required, remove those using HTC ROM Image Editor and try to reflash. Make sure your SPL is 2.00.cmon (use HardSPL first). Then after flasing this, go back to stockspl.
ddl.team said:
Okay. This ROM has the official Radio, IPL, SPL and Splash. If required, remove those using HTC ROM Image Editor and try to reflash. Make sure your SPL is 2.00.cmon (use HardSPL first). Then after flasing this, go back to stockspl.
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Hi. I tried as you said, but still no succes . Don't know what to try now.
no can do. thanks anyway.
1parsec said:
Hi. I tried as you said, but still no succes . Don't know what to try now.
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TheRem said:
no can do. thanks anyway.
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Even after removing ipl, stock radio etc it is not working for you both? It should work after removing it. I will try it later.
SPL
after I install this rom I can't Hard Spl again I'v tried with Opal_HardSPL_v2 and Opal_HardSPL_v1 there ar no working anymore, please give us a solution cuz now I can't instal another rom and with this my htc is useless.
SPL
The error from hard spl is 270 - the image file is corupted
is that rom really for TOUCH VIVA?
hi
Dowload the rom from here,
rapidshare.com/files/221263704/_file_RUU_Opal_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.27.707.1_infineongsm4.1.13.66_03.29.90_Ship.rar
Hold your volume down button and press reset, tri colour disply appear on your screen, connect usb cable to your ppc, then update with the above official rom update
s_p_mudakuzha said:
Dowload the rom from here,
rapidshare.com/files/221263704/_file_RUU_Opal_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.27.707.1_infineongsm4.1.13.66_03.29.90_Ship.rar
Hold your volume down button and press reset, tri colour disply appear on your screen, connect usb cable to your ppc, then update with the above official rom update
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Thats an old rom, we have more latest 1.35.720.1
Originally Posted by s_p_mudakuzha
Dowload the rom from here,
rapidshare.com/files/221263704/_file_RUU_Opal_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.27.707.1_infineongsm 4.1.13.66_03.29.90_Ship.rar
Hold your volume down button and press reset, tri colour disply appear on your screen, connect usb cable to your ppc, then update with the above official rom update
Thats an old rom, we have more latest 1.35.720.1
Sorry Mr. Jagan actually i was replaying to mr.menix , He is having problem after flashing this rom.
Alright, no need to be sorry.
thanks
thanks but is not working, i'v broken my phone with this version ROM.
For people who have issues with this ROM, flash a different ROM using the method described in the thread "HOW TO: Flash ROMS via an SD Card to your Opal".
This ROM was dumped from an HTC Touch Viva T2223 and is 100% original and untouched. I am not sure why this is not working for some of you. I have flashed this on my Viva twice now without any issues.
After flashing this ROM, I get the following:
OBNL 1.57.0000
SPL 1.26.0000 (post applying stockspl; was 2.00.cmon before)
GSM 03.29.90
OS 1.35.0.0
jagan2 said:
Thats an old rom, we have more latest 1.35.720.1
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Hi Jagan,
Where can i find the latest one? I mean 1.35.720.1.
ddl.team said:
OBNL 1.57.0000
SPL 1.26.0000 (post applying stockspl; was 2.00.cmon before)
GSM 03.29.90
OS 1.35.0.0
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Cannot apply stockspl. SPL 2.00.cmon still remains. I guess that is the problem, but I don't know how to revert to SPL 1.26. I tried everything, but 2.00.cmon is still there .
Thank you anyway.
Tools to dump ROM
Sorry if I am posting in the wrong thread, but are there any tools to backup the original SPL and ROM before we start flashing the cooked ROMS? As with this any unknown issues can be ruled out in case if we need to revert back to the stock ROM.
Thanks in advance.

[Q] Can't get away from the HTC Logo

I had change it to Android for my hd2 for a year, but now i want to back to Windows Phone.
And I try to use the Task29 and update a official ROM still got an Error 262 code.
And I boot it in a normal way, it will handed at the HTC logo.
So how can I solve it?
Thank you
thang1014 said:
I had change it to Android for my hd2 for a year, but now i want to back to Windows Phone.
And I try to use the Task29 and update a official ROM still got an Error 262 code.
And I boot it in a normal way, it will handed at the HTC logo.
So how can I solve it?
Thank you
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You need to disable hspl and you have to flash an original distribution rom which includes the boot loader.
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NYLimited said:
You need to disable hspl and you have to flash an original distribution rom which includes the boot loader.
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But how can't I disable the HSPL and flash the original distribution rom?
sorry, I haven't touch this HD2 for a year, so i forgot how to flash a rom
Sorry, I tried it, it works, thanks a lot
thang1014 said:
But how can't I disable the HSPL and flash the original distribution rom?
sorry, I haven't touch this HD2 for a year, so i forgot how to flash a rom
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If you install an official ROM from SD card, not USB, the SPL will go back to the original.
The only way to remove the HSPL is to flash an original SPL from SD card.
Take any "RUU_signed.nbh" from a ship ROM and copy it to SD card.
Rename it to "leoimg.nbh"
Reset the device while pressing the volume down button.
Windows 7.
Why do u ask in HD2 help and troubleshooting? It's so hard to install WP on HTC HD2. I hate this. Hope u can find answer in WP topic:laugh:
I'm a bit confused by your OP, are you trying to flash WM6.5 or WP7?
orangekid said:
I'm a bit confused by your OP, are you trying to flash WM6.5 or WP7?
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I too wondered about that but decided to answer what he said:
thang1014 said:
But how can't I disable the HSPL and flash the original distribution rom?
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Original rom is WM for this device...
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