Has anyone else had significant trouble with service after receiving this update? My battery life is much worse (16-24 hours down to 8-10 hours), and I frequently have to restart my phone to send/receive messages.
Nope but i dont see how a prl could harm to that extent?
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Nope but i dont see how a prl could harm to that extent?
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Of course it can. Looking for towers will kill your battery.
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Since 60680 my 3G speeds are slower, I am in 1x more often and roaming in areas I never roamed before and 4G doesn't always reconnect after entering a 4G area. Battery life is slightly down as well.
Service Area: Central NJ from Edison to the Jersey Shore Asbury/Point Pleasant)
Yeah, batter life sucks now and tws is going through the roof (stock EC05). I've been having reception issues too. I've been missing a lot of calls where I've never missed them before. And for some reason my voicemail notifications are different too. Now I only get text message notifications (not sure if it's all related, though)
I got a no service icon in an area that always used to get decent roaming.
My 3G is all messed up.... not working
Not sure if this is due to a refurbished phone I just received from Asurion.. already talked to Sprint for over 1 hour and nothing
On the phone with them...
My battery life seems to have decreased since the update as well but I don't have any numbers to verify that.
prl 11114 doesn't seem to have this issue. I have installed it and have noticed an increase in batt life. Maybe something is up with the 60080 prl. BTW best modem for me so far is EE03.
PRL means "Preferred Roaming List". This allows you to roam off other networks towers in which Sprint has an agreement with. It's only for roaming people. So if your still in your home area where you have Sprint service, you are not going to be roaming. PRL does not affect battery life, call quality, signal ect. Put it this way....If our phones did not have a PRL, we would not be able to roam. That is all.
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PRL means "Preferred Roaming List". This allows you to roam off other networks towers in which Sprint has an agreement with. It's only for roaming people. So if your still in your home area where you have Sprint service, you are not going to be roaming. PRL does not affect battery life, call quality, signal ect. Put it this way....If our phones did not have a PRL, we would not be able to roam. That is all.
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I know what prl stands for. However, if the "preferred" roaming list assigns higher preference to towers with less signal than previous, it would make total sense for battery life to be affected, as more time would be spent searching for a stronger signal. My office is in a lower level, and service is 1 bar at best, typically roaming. Also, as another user stated, TWS has increased significantly.
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I know what prl stands for. However, if the "preferred" roaming list assigns higher preference to towers with less signal than previous, it would make total sense for battery life to be affected, as more time would be spent searching for a stronger signal. My office is in a lower level, and service is 1 bar at best, typically roaming. Also, as another user stated, TWS has increased significantly.
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It doesn't give your preference of other towers. It isn't a list of towers.
The funniest comment I heard was it affected 4G.
austin420 said:
Of course it can. Looking for towers will kill your battery.
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only when your roaming ..... so it doesnt affect it really
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175032
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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
the 4G antenna in the EVO is half the size of the USB one, I don't even get signal at my house on my EVO, yet I get 1.5MBs on my USB stick. Size matters.
Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
sprints 4g is in a horrible part of the spectrum. it's frequency is too high to pass through anything
This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
unless you are a running a stock rom with the latest updates, i don't think you can make any of these complaints that you all are unless 4g isn't fully up and running in your city. My girlfriend just got the white evo and we installed the latest updates and she gets a very good 4g signal, i have the black evo running fresh 0.5.3 and i get a pretty good signal myself. Not to mention we live in mpls and 4g isn't even officially here yet. A lot of these problems people are having are user errors, flashing things with no knowledge of what they are doing. I would say go back to stock do to ota update with the new radio and wimax enhancements then tell me what type of 4g coverage you are getting. otherwise you are just trusting the chef that everything is set up right which i would take with a grain of salt because non of them seem to understand exactly how the wimax radio works as of yet. Proof of this is all the problems people are having after trying numerous roms
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
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That's not very encouraging, I am very disappointed by Sprint's 3g speeds. I have yet to see over 1mbs, and over the 4th of July weekended saw .2-.7 mbs. Yes, .2 as in 192kbs. This was in Miami.
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This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
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I started this thread with the intentions of looking into the settings of the wimax ##data# menu....not too rant about the service. I believe with the good signal I'm getting and the fact that I do connect shows that there's an issue with either the roms were flashing or the setting mentioned above. Anybody care to post their settings?
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Changing the wimax idle sleep time from 10 secs to 300 secs could help. My 4G stays on pretty much constantly now instead of switching back and forth between 4G and 3G. You would need your MSL to edit the settings though.
I have similar issues in the chicago land area as well. Very frustrating. I am using a stock rooted rom, but I am using an older OTA update. When I'm outside I always have a strong 4G signal. However, as soon as I go in doors I either loose the signal or have a very weak one. Before you say anything about updating, my GF's EVO is completely stock with the newest OTA update and her 4G behaves very similarly. I actually pick up a better signal at times. It just sucks because if the signal was just a LITTLE bit stronger I would be really happy.
Thats just due to the spectrum used for wimax is at such a high frequency that it does not penetrate walls very well. I'm not sure how sprint will try to remedy this problem, I'm not sure but I get strong signals at my work office and thats inside a building. At home I can get 4G if I am outside once inside I cant seem to get it at all.
What's "##data#" ? I would search it but haven't quite figured it out yet on the app. Google didn't help either (surprisingly).
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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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jr - I am in Gold Coast and recently noticed the 4G signal was junk. It used ot be great inside my 13th floor apartment. I went to the sprint store and they said one of the towers was being serviced (they called a tech. and he said this while I was there). They said end of this week it would be fixed. I was going to give them another week or so and see what the deal is then.
IMO it kind of defeats the purpose of having 4G then. 90% of the time that I want to surf the internet or use 4G I'm indoors, and I would imagine that goes for pretty much everybody. I know this isn't a problem for everybody so it seems, but I think for a lot of people it is.
interesting you say 4 bars of 4g. when i look at my phone i can get up to 6 vertical bars for 3g's signal strength, but with 4g on, and outside i can get 3 "bars" more like "upper wifi arcs" above the 4g signal. and inside my 4g doesn't even register anything, it just shows 4g with no arcs...
however my technique is to put the phone right next to the window and run my micro usb cable from there to my computer. and i then get great data connection...
still experimenting, (had the phone for less than a week) but i think it might work better to go to menu/settings/wirless&networks/ and uncheck mobile network so the phone doesn't use the 3g for data connection when 4g isn't there...
thus if the 4g signal is low, it doesn't drop it to grab the higher signal 3g...
lastly. i'm heading to the store to try to pick up a 2 buck plastic soap dish with a suction cup for the "high tech holding station" on my window. that and a 10 foot micro usb cable i think that will help even more...
best of luck.
I have figured out where in my neighborhood I can get a 4G signal (and I too keep my phone near the window when I want to use it at home). However since the OTA, I noticed that if my 4G signal drops it won't come back unless I toggle the 4G radio. It will just sit in "scanning" and use 3G.
Anyone else noticing this problem?
I would assume that one of the settings/timers need to be tweaked, but I have no idea what my those values were before the OTA.
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Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
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4G has nothing to do with 3G. Clearwire maintains the 4G network and Ericsson maintains the 3G/1X network do if your 3G is bad now, it won't be any different when 4G launches unless Ericsson improves the situation.
If I'd got this device predominantly for 4G...Id've returned it in day one...(IN Chicago also). In fact wouldn't have bought it going in knowing what I knew about the spottiness of tapping into 4G frequency wirelessly.
that makes absolutely no sense.
per your words, 4G has nothing to do with 3G as in Clearwire has nothing to do with Ericsson so what would it matter if Ericsson decided to step its game up if Clearwire is the 4G company?
4G is on a whole different frequency not to mention a whole different tower technology and tower location possibly so there's definetly a good chance that I can maintain a great 4G signal once it arrives in my area compared to the terrible 3G coverage I get.
well see what happens... my luck they will never put 4G by me lol.
I updated my prl a couple days ago, and though the version number didn't change (60671) my phone is much more roam friendly. It used to never switch at work, now it's jumping over pretty quickly. Anyone else having better roam coverage?
I've noticed it to.
I cant roam at all. For some reason when i try and tap into verizons towers I get a cannot authentice your accoun recording when i try and make a call.
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I cant roam at all. For some reason when i try and tap into verizons towers I get a cannot authentice your accoun recording when i try and make a call.
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See if this thread helps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769966
I don't know about prl update, but I noticed that my 3g down bandwidth dropped by about 50% to 1.3mbps this morning...
may not be related but i had the same issue verizon can't authicate till i loaded the wired tether hack then all of a sudden roaming works.
might be worth a shot
I make frequent trips to a rural part of South Carolina , I have noticed better signal reception in Verizon areas where as before I got (no service) .
From day one, I have had isues with signal strength. It will be 6 bars one second and then no bars the next while in the same spot. Is there yet a solution?
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Same here. I get the infinite sms and send failed all the time. Messed up thing is the only rom this doesn't happen to me in is stock. Go figure.
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Mine has always been stock no mods running froyo
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I have the same problem. Mine will go from perfect signal to the damn 1x icon with no bars and be so slow. Even though on in the same spot when I had full signal. It pisses me off.
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Same here
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I have the same problem too.It's even worse when i'm 4G.it sucks
If you install roam control from the market, it will force your phone to roam and in the process turn your phone into a verizon phone since you will be using there towers It solved all my reception issues, just be sure to check allow data roaming and you most likely will not have another problem with reception. Oh also you must be rooted for it to work
Yeah but when using roam control the internet speed isn't 3g
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The 3g icon is displayed on my phone and actively in use since i enabled data roaming, so i dont see your point? Data is fast and reception is good, dont be a debbie downer
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The 3g icon is displayed on my phone and actively in use since i enabled data roaming, so i dont see your point? Data is fast and reception is good, dont be a debbie downer
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try testing your speed. just because the 3g icon is displayed doesn't mean you're getting it. and the contract between sprint and verizon stipulates that sprint customers roaming on verizons network are restricted to 1x speeds.
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try testing your speed. just because the 3g icon is displayed doesn't mean you're getting it. and the contract between sprint and verizon stipulates that sprint customers roaming on verizons network are restricted to 1x speeds.
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Thank you. That is my point. Your not on 3g
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Im on wifi most of the time anyways, and when Im not (If I remember) I turn on 4g, so thats probably why I never noticed 3g being any different As far as signal strength, roam control does make you have excellent service for making calls, there is no denying that.
fix does not work.
Is that force roaming to Vz? Maybe you started getting spotty Sprint ownwd EVDO coverage. Forcing 3g only could be putting you on Vz towers.
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Doesn't EVDO Only disable voice calls?
This would also be a good way to save battery without losing all data connectivity.
3G/EVDO uses a lot of power. If you switch this setting to CDMA only you will force the phone to only use 1x. The data rates will be slower, but acceptable enough for most notifications and light things like facebook.
CDMA - 2G/1X Slower Data greater battery life
EVDO - 3G/EVDO Higher speed data, battery hog.
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Doesn't EVDO Only disable voice calls?
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Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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Is that force roaming to Vz? Maybe you started getting spotty Sprint ownwd EVDO coverage. Forcing 3g only could be putting you on Vz towers.
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I dont think it is.
I have my phone set to Home network only. doing this boosted my signal from 1 bar (-90,-100dBm) to a full signal (-65dBM) it clearly says Sprint CDMA EvDo Rev. A in connection status.
Thank you very much =D
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Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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Yep that is correct. Just tested it...
Hybrid OR CDMA only are the only options you should choose here folks.
CDMA only WILL produce battery life savings though. Your data will be slower then molasses rolling uphill in December BUT it will be sufficient for emails.
It's a very nice find either way just on that fact alone. Back in the motorola days this was a very popular battery saver mod. Disabling EVDO and forcing it to always be 1X.
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Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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hehe.... you are correct sir... going back to old ****ty service again so i can get phone calls
The EVDO radio and CDMA radio are two different radios I believe.
When you put EVDO only you're probably seeing JUST your 3G signal which might appear stronger.
CDMA only you're seeing just your 1x/voice/sms signal.
Hybrid the signal bars I'm sure just average the two out...
That's how I "think!" it works... could be way wrong.
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
fixxxer2008 said:
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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I wouldn't be surprised if a new PRL fixes this... seems to be area specific, I have great signal for the most part...
Also, fixxer, I know you've been having horrid battery life. I'm sure the low signal is causing this as the lower the signal the more power the radio is going to be given to try and maintain the signal.
Try CDMA only and use WiFi whenever you can (also be sure to set WiFi sleep policy to never). 1x uses significantly less power then 3G... although it's to slow to be downloading big apps or loading really complex web pages, it would however be great for general notifications. Give it a shot and let me know if it helps your battery at all!
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Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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Hey, it can still work as a temporary solution for some people. I'm close to saying "Dagnabbit, I don't care if I get calls. I want to listen to twit live!" GV notifications should still work, anyway.
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I wouldn't be surprised if a new PRL fixes this... seems to be area specific, I have great signal for the most part...
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yeah, I'm doing pretty great on signal.
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Could be a prl but i still think it needs a radio. This phone is set to wcdma when it should be cdma auto prl. Hopefully we get a fix or ota soon. My battery is better today since i flashed a stock rom and kernel. Not great but better.
I gave the CDMA-only option a shot, no incoming phone calls at all. Switched instead to EVDO only, and calls seems to be coming through better in an area where I had maybe 50% success rate for incoming calls when running unmodified. I'll leave it here for awhile, so I know when someone is actually trying to call me.
This is horribly frustrating, I suffered with poor AT&T service for years for the iPhone and never thought I'd be wishing I hadn't changed carriers. I could maybe justify the shoddy call coverage if data was at least fast, but it's not. I'm giving this another week, and going for a return and possibly switching carriers again.
CDMA only setting for calls/texts paired with 4G for data seems to work pretty well.
Since EVDO only mode seems to prevent receiving calls.
True test will be when I get home, 1930's brick building that has been raising hell with calls.
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Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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Didn't someone else come up with this potential fix and post it in the Sprint Community Forum?
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Didn't someone else come up with this potential fix and post it in the Sprint Community Forum?
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and i never said i wrote it, i put it here for you guys. i did however test it for this guy early this morning. were all trying to find a temp fix until the companies get off their asses.
I have a DE phone with the latest update. Service in my area this week has been horrible.( Wichita Kansas ) I've mostly been in 3g with service coming and going all week. My coworkers have this problem as well. Is anyone else experiencing poor service ?
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I have a DE phone with the latest update. Service in my area this week has been horrible.( Wichita Kansas ) I've mostly been in 3g with service coming and going all week. My coworkers have this problem as well. Is anyone else experiencing poor service ?
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The tower in my area is notoriously crappy. many times even text messages will delay until we travel to another cell. My ex as an example received a Text message two days after I had sent it. no rhyme or reason, just crap service across all devices.
As far as 3g goes, if others have 4g my only suggestion is to reboot the phone. worked for my s3 running cyanogenmod 12.
Call them and ask them to investigate the tower. Have your coworkers call as well. You would need to know your signal strength for any real troubleshooting. Its possible that another vendor put up a tower or increased bands (channels) on existing tower. Also, does your employer have an extender/repeater. Maybe it is having issues?
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Call them and ask them to investigate the tower. Have your coworkers call as well. You would need to know your signal strength for any real troubleshooting. Its possible that another vendor put up a tower or increased bands (channels) on existing tower. Also, does your employer have an extender/repeater. Maybe it is having issues?
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I'm going to give it a couple more days just in case they're working in the area and no my company does not have an extender Network out here I wish they did. Thanks
The BPA1 update really screwed with my reception. Prior to the update, I would be 2-3 bars 4G service with no drops inside my fire hall. After the update, I bounce between 1x & 3G with only 1 bar each depending on where I am in the building and it chews through battery the whole time. I updated one night at the hall and went from 2 bars 4G and streaming video with no drop outs to 1x and barely able to load Google.com all while sitting in one spot.
The phone also lags considerably while switching between networks and/or wifi.
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The BPA1 update really screwed with my reception. Prior to the update, I would be 2-3 bars 4G service with no drops inside my fire hall. After the update, I bounce between 1x & 3G with only 1 bar each depending on where I am in the building and it chews through battery the whole time. I updated one night at the hall and went from 2 bars 4G and streaming video with no drop outs to 1x and barely able to load Google.com all while sitting in one spot.
The phone also lags considerably while switching between networks and/or wifi.
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I agree the BPA1 update made my reception really bad too. I've gotten so many dropped calls at my house since then. I think I'm dropping Verizon as soon as my contracts up....
You can try 4G switcher app and toggle off LTE/CDMA auto PRL and then back to it to refresh your data?
Flashed back to BOG5 . Signal strength seems fine now. Maybe Verizon puts out ****ty updates on purpose just so people get tired of the poor performance and go buy a new phone . I hope not, makes me wonder
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Now that I have unlocked the bootloader, I flashed back to the BOK3 modem and have much better signal strength and faster downloads as a result. Call audio is suffering a bit though with a nasty echo at times...
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