Verizon service horrible lately - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General

I have a DE phone with the latest update. Service in my area this week has been horrible.( Wichita Kansas ) I've mostly been in 3g with service coming and going all week. My coworkers have this problem as well. Is anyone else experiencing poor service ?

cam1pbell said:
I have a DE phone with the latest update. Service in my area this week has been horrible.( Wichita Kansas ) I've mostly been in 3g with service coming and going all week. My coworkers have this problem as well. Is anyone else experiencing poor service ?
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The tower in my area is notoriously crappy. many times even text messages will delay until we travel to another cell. My ex as an example received a Text message two days after I had sent it. no rhyme or reason, just crap service across all devices.
As far as 3g goes, if others have 4g my only suggestion is to reboot the phone. worked for my s3 running cyanogenmod 12.

Call them and ask them to investigate the tower. Have your coworkers call as well. You would need to know your signal strength for any real troubleshooting. Its possible that another vendor put up a tower or increased bands (channels) on existing tower. Also, does your employer have an extender/repeater. Maybe it is having issues?
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sixtythreechevy said:
Call them and ask them to investigate the tower. Have your coworkers call as well. You would need to know your signal strength for any real troubleshooting. Its possible that another vendor put up a tower or increased bands (channels) on existing tower. Also, does your employer have an extender/repeater. Maybe it is having issues?
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I'm going to give it a couple more days just in case they're working in the area and no my company does not have an extender Network out here I wish they did. Thanks

The BPA1 update really screwed with my reception. Prior to the update, I would be 2-3 bars 4G service with no drops inside my fire hall. After the update, I bounce between 1x & 3G with only 1 bar each depending on where I am in the building and it chews through battery the whole time. I updated one night at the hall and went from 2 bars 4G and streaming video with no drop outs to 1x and barely able to load Google.com all while sitting in one spot.
The phone also lags considerably while switching between networks and/or wifi.

swartlkk said:
The BPA1 update really screwed with my reception. Prior to the update, I would be 2-3 bars 4G service with no drops inside my fire hall. After the update, I bounce between 1x & 3G with only 1 bar each depending on where I am in the building and it chews through battery the whole time. I updated one night at the hall and went from 2 bars 4G and streaming video with no drop outs to 1x and barely able to load Google.com all while sitting in one spot.
The phone also lags considerably while switching between networks and/or wifi.
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I agree the BPA1 update made my reception really bad too. I've gotten so many dropped calls at my house since then. I think I'm dropping Verizon as soon as my contracts up....

You can try 4G switcher app and toggle off LTE/CDMA auto PRL and then back to it to refresh your data?

Flashed back to BOG5 . Signal strength seems fine now. Maybe Verizon puts out ****ty updates on purpose just so people get tired of the poor performance and go buy a new phone . I hope not, makes me wonder
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Now that I have unlocked the bootloader, I flashed back to the BOK3 modem and have much better signal strength and faster downloads as a result. Call audio is suffering a bit though with a nasty echo at times...
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Sprint's 4g connection not stable...

Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
the 4G antenna in the EVO is half the size of the USB one, I don't even get signal at my house on my EVO, yet I get 1.5MBs on my USB stick. Size matters.
Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
sprints 4g is in a horrible part of the spectrum. it's frequency is too high to pass through anything
This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
unless you are a running a stock rom with the latest updates, i don't think you can make any of these complaints that you all are unless 4g isn't fully up and running in your city. My girlfriend just got the white evo and we installed the latest updates and she gets a very good 4g signal, i have the black evo running fresh 0.5.3 and i get a pretty good signal myself. Not to mention we live in mpls and 4g isn't even officially here yet. A lot of these problems people are having are user errors, flashing things with no knowledge of what they are doing. I would say go back to stock do to ota update with the new radio and wimax enhancements then tell me what type of 4g coverage you are getting. otherwise you are just trusting the chef that everything is set up right which i would take with a grain of salt because non of them seem to understand exactly how the wimax radio works as of yet. Proof of this is all the problems people are having after trying numerous roms
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
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That's not very encouraging, I am very disappointed by Sprint's 3g speeds. I have yet to see over 1mbs, and over the 4th of July weekended saw .2-.7 mbs. Yes, .2 as in 192kbs. This was in Miami.
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This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
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I started this thread with the intentions of looking into the settings of the wimax ##data# menu....not too rant about the service. I believe with the good signal I'm getting and the fact that I do connect shows that there's an issue with either the roms were flashing or the setting mentioned above. Anybody care to post their settings?
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Changing the wimax idle sleep time from 10 secs to 300 secs could help. My 4G stays on pretty much constantly now instead of switching back and forth between 4G and 3G. You would need your MSL to edit the settings though.
I have similar issues in the chicago land area as well. Very frustrating. I am using a stock rooted rom, but I am using an older OTA update. When I'm outside I always have a strong 4G signal. However, as soon as I go in doors I either loose the signal or have a very weak one. Before you say anything about updating, my GF's EVO is completely stock with the newest OTA update and her 4G behaves very similarly. I actually pick up a better signal at times. It just sucks because if the signal was just a LITTLE bit stronger I would be really happy.
Thats just due to the spectrum used for wimax is at such a high frequency that it does not penetrate walls very well. I'm not sure how sprint will try to remedy this problem, I'm not sure but I get strong signals at my work office and thats inside a building. At home I can get 4G if I am outside once inside I cant seem to get it at all.
What's "##data#" ? I would search it but haven't quite figured it out yet on the app. Google didn't help either (surprisingly).
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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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jr - I am in Gold Coast and recently noticed the 4G signal was junk. It used ot be great inside my 13th floor apartment. I went to the sprint store and they said one of the towers was being serviced (they called a tech. and he said this while I was there). They said end of this week it would be fixed. I was going to give them another week or so and see what the deal is then.
IMO it kind of defeats the purpose of having 4G then. 90% of the time that I want to surf the internet or use 4G I'm indoors, and I would imagine that goes for pretty much everybody. I know this isn't a problem for everybody so it seems, but I think for a lot of people it is.
interesting you say 4 bars of 4g. when i look at my phone i can get up to 6 vertical bars for 3g's signal strength, but with 4g on, and outside i can get 3 "bars" more like "upper wifi arcs" above the 4g signal. and inside my 4g doesn't even register anything, it just shows 4g with no arcs...
however my technique is to put the phone right next to the window and run my micro usb cable from there to my computer. and i then get great data connection...
still experimenting, (had the phone for less than a week) but i think it might work better to go to menu/settings/wirless&networks/ and uncheck mobile network so the phone doesn't use the 3g for data connection when 4g isn't there...
thus if the 4g signal is low, it doesn't drop it to grab the higher signal 3g...
lastly. i'm heading to the store to try to pick up a 2 buck plastic soap dish with a suction cup for the "high tech holding station" on my window. that and a 10 foot micro usb cable i think that will help even more...
best of luck.
I have figured out where in my neighborhood I can get a 4G signal (and I too keep my phone near the window when I want to use it at home). However since the OTA, I noticed that if my 4G signal drops it won't come back unless I toggle the 4G radio. It will just sit in "scanning" and use 3G.
Anyone else noticing this problem?
I would assume that one of the settings/timers need to be tweaked, but I have no idea what my those values were before the OTA.
oreoOozZz said:
Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
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4G has nothing to do with 3G. Clearwire maintains the 4G network and Ericsson maintains the 3G/1X network do if your 3G is bad now, it won't be any different when 4G launches unless Ericsson improves the situation.
If I'd got this device predominantly for 4G...Id've returned it in day one...(IN Chicago also). In fact wouldn't have bought it going in knowing what I knew about the spottiness of tapping into 4G frequency wirelessly.
that makes absolutely no sense.
per your words, 4G has nothing to do with 3G as in Clearwire has nothing to do with Ericsson so what would it matter if Ericsson decided to step its game up if Clearwire is the 4G company?
4G is on a whole different frequency not to mention a whole different tower technology and tower location possibly so there's definetly a good chance that I can maintain a great 4G signal once it arrives in my area compared to the terrible 3G coverage I get.
well see what happens... my luck they will never put 4G by me lol.

[Rant!] I can't take it anymore...[ 4g data disconnects ]

Literally every time I try to watch a video in HD on youtube, my connection goes to ****.
I can't download huge files wthout a download manager because they will fail. And where the download manager saves me is by continuing the transfer when I bring the network back up.
I can't play ps online or xbl because the traffic kills my connection.
The ONLY thing its good for is browsing webpages.. that's it!
I live close to a 4g tower cause when I'm peaking, I get 10-13mbps+ its just when tethering or not, the connection times out..
This phone [SAMUNG] has terrible implementation regarding its Wimax radio. I soo wish I could pull out the HTC hardware and stick it in, cause it never timed out like this. Nor did it cause data disconnect upon taking a call while on 4g and tethering..
PLEASE can someone look into why this is happening?
I know I can't be the only one..
Especially
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Try this fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925898
I have a similar situation with/without the fix. It seems my signal strength (or bars) have improved, whether perceived or real, but reliability is crappy. I basically hold very very still when trying to download a podcast. The highest I've ever gotten is around 6mbits/sec, but usually, if it stays connected, I'll avg about 1-2.
I honestly think that this may have more to do with the wimax technology and towers. I have a Clear bundle ( usb and home) and I live in full 5 bar and 10 bar coverage, and my speeds fluctuate greatly. Now on my phone I always get a solid connection and hardly any fluction albet slower speeds than the other hardware at times. I think the tech and the hardware have more margin of productivity and constant throughput error than sprint or clear wants us to know until they updrage to true wimax 4g. Just my thoughts, maybe your radio is one that doesn't like the tower close to your house.
Call and ask about tower issues, or maybe try a replacement phone, hopefully this is helpful.
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Thanks for thr input guys, my problem is not my thuroughput its actually quite amazing. And rarely on the lowside. Usually 8.5ish most times.
But rather my problem has to do with the Load put on the radio, when downloading a file. Just like when I had problems with cable modems, it would crap out.
I actually did those wimax settings even tho I have te best signal, so great that I'm full bars inside my home at all times [unless I'm covering the radio in slide out mode]
Sigh.. just sucks not to be able to take advantage of my great speeds. Cause I really need to view the 1080p videos on youtube, looking at samples of the Canon 550d/t2I I am getting
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When tethering, I keep my phone stationary in a stand (an izel). That has made my connection extremely reliable and I can stream entire movies without any problems.
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Literally every time I try to watch a video in HD on youtube, my connection goes to ****.
I can't download huge files wthout a download manager because they will fail. And where the download manager saves me is by continuing the transfer when I bring the network back up.
I can't play ps online or xbl because the traffic kills my connection.
The ONLY thing its good for is browsing webpages.. that's it!
I live close to a 4g tower cause when I'm peaking, I get 10-13mbps+ its just when tethering or not, the connection times out..
This phone [SAMUNG] has terrible implementation regarding its Wimax radio. I soo wish I could pull out the HTC hardware and stick it in, cause it never timed out like this. Nor did it cause data disconnect upon taking a call while on 4g and tethering..
PLEASE can someone look into why this is happening?
I know I can't be the only one..
Especially
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I get it with or without the fix. At home and I am less than 1/2 mile from a verified 4G tower and even though I can at times get Speedtest results over 8Mbit there isn't anything that is constant about the connection. 4G is unusable most of the time because the connection will drop about once a minute which then ticks off the phone and this is in an area with a high signal coverage. I also have an Overdrive and it doesn't seem to suffer from the same issues or if it does it doesn't do it as bad.
I'm wondering if it's related to individual tower's broadcasting equipment. I've been places where 4G will stay connected all day regardless of what I'm doing active or not. But the office where I'm working now it constantly connects and disconnects (load or no load). I've tried the fix in the other post, and it hasn't helped here.
Maybe Sprint's Network Vision program will fix this problem.
I just contacted Sprint about the same issue. I'm in Miami, and if this issue persists I'm going to cancel the line. It is annoying as hell. I wonder if it happens with other 4G phones?
Alright thanks guys we have good reports here.
My htc evo didn't do this, I stayed on 4g downloading all day for 14hrs straight at times. Only problem I had regarding 4g on the evo was trying to get the 4g to stay on, while I turned on the hotspot. Once I got it. It was golden.
The epic always have the problem with maintaining the connection. I can say my location doesn't make a difference for me, regarding this issue. But also how would I find out how close I live to a 4g tower? For the speeds I get, it has to be on top of my roof lol.
What is the Sprint Network Vision program? I'm about to google it
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It may be useful to see my original post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10773776
I also had reliability issues and discovered that my office computer was at fault - some kind of RF interference. It's rock-solid now.
well no wonder i have such good throughput and great signal. Used the WiMax tower locator.
The nearest tower to your location is 0.82 miles away, bearing 59 degrees>
i am reading your post, I am trying different locations away from my pc to see if this this helps. thanks for the input. I would like to mention my room mate has at least 15 RC cars. Gas and electric ones, running off 900mhz or 2.4ghz.
he is always on them noisy ass things lol. But this happens even when he isnt on them, and like I mentioned before, the HTC didnt do this--BUT thats not to say this isnt the case with the epic. Two different machines. and hardware for sure.. Samsung barely got the 3g modem right after the release of DI18 lol, **** what makes you think they can handle a wimax radio
At this time there is currently a 4g outtage nationwide on sprints network... I do tech for them and it started sometime around the 22nd or so had a few days off befre that so I can't give you an exact time... as of 11 mountain time on 2/1/11 there was no fix yet...
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At this time there is currently a 4g outtage nationwide on sprints network... I do tech for them and it started sometime around the 22nd or so had a few days off befre that so I can't give you an exact time... as of 11 mountain time on 2/1/11 there was no fix yet...
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Shhhh . . . don't tell my phone. It is connected to 4G right now and getting 5mbps down in the washington DC area.
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Shhhh . . . don't tell my phone. It is connected to 4G right now and getting 5mbps down in the washington DC area.
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LOL - about 6-7 down here.
I'm in Ft. Lauderdale, and my experience has been that in areas with solid 4g, the connection will drop the moment the signal from a tower *besides* the one that gave you your IP address hits 3 bars.
Example: southbound 95, initial connection between Sunrise & Broward Blvd, gridlock. Watch the signal strength peg at 3 bars near Broward blvd, slowly drift to 2, then 1 by Davie rd... then go back up to 2, and drop when you're close enough to spit on the tower next to 95 at the river. If you toggle 4g off & on right then, it'll reconnect almost instantly with 3 bars. It wreaks havoc on Pandora, to the point of being unusable.
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Slacker radio is the app I use, and keeping the Epic on 3G works best for the same reasons the previous poster states. There I get good performance almost everywhere in my town. If I'm using a constant streaming app though, I will hit patches of trouble especially if it's a fast CD-quality stream.

Whats up with Tmo network ?

Both of my phones cycle from 3G to EDGE to weak signal.....this is MA in full 3G area
1- Different Modem or Kernel
2- Change ROMS
3- Your phone sucks bawls.
either of those.
xriderx66 said:
1- Different Modem or Kernel
2- Change ROMS
3- Your phone sucks bawls.
either of those.
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I have 2 different phones and it started about 30-40 minutes ago on both
kolyan said:
I have 2 different phones and it started about 30-40 minutes ago on both
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Are both Phones running the same rom, same modems etc?
If yes, then its probably a network issue from TMO themselves, and you should call them to ask them if anything is going on, and if nothing is, they'll either:
1) give you instructions on how to get better signal
2) give you a little modem thing for better signal that you connect on your PC.
i have the little modem thing, its like a little cell tower i was part of the BETA program.
interesting seeing this thread because bout an hour ago I lost my data connection and camt get it back. not this first time this has happened. l
Then for sure its a TMO problem, not yours.
Call them up, ask them whats going on, and get a answer.
It's perfect here in Texas for me.
I had the same problem too, but i went to mobile network via settings and switch network mode to gsm instead of gsm/wdmca or something like that. worked for me.
looks like they fixed it now.....now get all bars
At around 9-10 est I had the same problem. I had full bars but the data was slowed. Its better now though. Maybe some work being done?
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Here the past few days, my data, which is usually around or about 2-3mb down and .6mb up has been at 5.8-6mb down and 1.5-3mb up
I have to set my network settings to wdcma only to avoid constantly switching to edge. I only switch to auto mode when im traveling.
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Here in Puerto Rico it has been hell on all of my family phones.Starting with call not wanting to go out,many times i get a message saying all circuits are busy.And then something incredibly weird,i call some one and all you hear is like a bunch of sound like they are from an old PC dial up modem but not quite in that patter and fast and you hear like some one is breathing at the same time.
Like some estrange sounds use in movies to simulate Alien voices or some sh** like that,i tough it was my phone,i am running Toxic Fire,but my wise have also heard it and his Vibrant isn't rooted and doesn't have any custom rom,and also my friend which is on AT&T hear it when i call it a few days ago.
And yes Data rates had been to low at times.
Im in florida and had some bad reception issues from like 5pmest Friday till 12pmest Saturday. Don't know if its related or not.
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That happened to me three times last week and this week. I had to wipe davike.
kolyan said:
Both of my phones cycle from 3G to EDGE to weak signal.....this is MA in full 3G area
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I'm in mass too, 3g just sucks here they need more towers
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I'm in mass too, 3g just sucks here they need more towers
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Its spotty. 3g is fast where I live in Framingham, but I noticed in other areas in Framingham 3g is as slow as EDGE, and some places in Newton and Brookline only have EDGE.....I mean its 4G era and we should have almost 100% 3G coverage by now. I dont see the point moving on to 4G, I would be MUCH more happy with full 3G in MA
It happened to me a few times this week (DC Area) and I thought there was something wrong with my phone. After rebooting my phone for a few times, and playing with network mode, and lastly checking my wife's BB, I realized it must have been T-mobile network.
I've had this problem for a while and finally after numerous calls to T-Mo i figured it out.
I live inbetween a crappy Edge tower apparently in the boonie area about a mile away, and also a 3g tower about the same distance in the other direction in civilization.
It constantly switches on me when i'm at home to whatever it feels like, usually edge... I think just to get under my skin on purpose.
When i finally realized that I went to settings - wireless and network - Mobile networks - Network mode - then put it on WCDMA only. Boom 3g all day.
If you happen to go into an area and you lose service, do the same thing, but instead of selecting WCDMA only, put it on auto and you will be able to use edge service as well again.

Weak signal, poor reception, dropped calls

Anyone else having these issues? I've noticed that places I always had at least 1-2 bars with my note 2 I will not have any service with my note 3. Also I have been dropping calls in areas that I never did. Could this be my new sim card or should I exchange my phone? I also feel that my wifi connection stability/range is slightly worse than before.
Mine is the same way,don't get the signal my note 2 would and 4G is weaker also .
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Mine is the same way,don't get the signal my note 2 would and 4G is weaker also .
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I hope this is just a first software or sim issue. Or at the very worst a first production run issue. I will likely be bringing mine to Verizon this weekend to test and new sim or exchange if that doesn't make any difference. Annoying.
Idk how much it will help you but I noticed I was in 3G a lot of the time as well. Definitely more than my N2, I switched my preferred network to LTE/CDMA instead of Global and I now have 4GLTE way more. As far as the wifi and phone reception, I myself haven't noticed any huge difference but I did read the international version of the N3 already received 2 updates and they supposedly not only improved the wifi and antenna signals but also battery life. Who knows when we'll see an update though. We are on Verizon.
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Idk how much it will help you but I noticed I was in 3G a lot of the time as well. Definitely more than my N2, I switched my preferred network to LTE/CDMA instead of Global and I now have 4GLTE way more. As far as the wifi and phone reception, I myself haven't noticed any huge difference but I did read the international version of the N3 already received 2 updates and they supposedly not only improved the wifi and antenna signals but also battery life. Who knows when we'll see an update though. We are on Verizon.
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Tried that and it actually made my signal significantly worse. I switched back to global and my problem seems way worse tonight than any day this week. Can barely hold onto a signal in places that I never had an issue before. Battery pull didn't help at all. I constantly get a message that says I can't send messages and then asks me to retry. Frustrating, will be going to Verizon tomorrow or Friday to return/exchange
Just now noticing this
I wonder if this has anything to do with being rooted? it seems like I just started dropping calls like crazy just today. I do remember getting the sent error on some text messages, though I can't remember if that started befor or after rooting.
Haven't had a single issue with signal or dropping calls. Also my 4G speeds are pretty insane. I'm thinking there are some units with defective radios.

Sprint Signal issues?

Just wondering if could be faulty unit or Sprint signal problems but i've been getting dropping signals randomly inside of my house, and also friend telling me that they called me but i never them calls, if more ppl like me?
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I'm on Sprint JC and I've gotten slightly lower speeds in my living room than my Note 3 ,but still very solid 4G , But my city has strong Sprint LTE..
I've had no interruptions no sputters.
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I'm on Sprint JC and I've gotten slightly lower speeds in my living room than my Note 3 ,but still very solid 4G , But my city has strong Sprint LTE..
I've had no interruptions no sputters.
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Do you think should I request an RMA for my phone? Or maybe is Sprint side
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Just helped my girlfriend's mom with her new phone today (she's not had a smartphone before). I was very pleasantly surprised and happy for her that her phone registered 10-12 dBm better signal than my S6 (S6 and MXP both on Sprint right next to each other on the countertop).
Edit: I don't know that it would make a difference, but maybe just verify as an easy check, see if it is set to LTE. Her phone was initially set to Global, for some reason (it worked either way, but I didn't pay attention to signal before switching it to LTE).
I think Global is for aloud the phone to be selecting either LTE, 3G or 1x based on the signal, so if we switch to LTE only as soon I move to LTE ill be losing data
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