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Available onboard memory for applications?

This phone has 8GB of memory (or 16GB for the other model). Can anyone tell me if all of this space is available for application installation? (excluding the space required for the system files etc)?
I thought I read somewhere that only 1GB was available for application installation while the rest could be used to store normal files like on the SD Card. If it is entirely available for application installation then I'm probably ok not upgrading the memory card as 8GB is plenty big enough for what I need. Even if it is limited to 1GB for application storage, this is plenty big enough for what I need.
TIA

1.8GB free for applications installation in the Galaxy S.

I assume the rest is used for storage space of user files like an extension to the SD card?

Correct.... It's an ideal dumping ground for Photos, Music or whatever takes your fancy.

I'm confused, after the 1.8gb where is the other 6.2gb?

The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.

Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.

yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card

SiL3nTKiLL said:
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
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Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.

Beards said:
Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
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more than likely the phone has been rooted

igniztion said:
The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
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ah makes sense now, thanks

vibez said:
more than likely the phone has been rooted
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Yes... I was thinking that myself but I'd just like to clear this one up.

fletcharama said:
Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
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Strictly speaking, developers need to update their application before it can be installed onto the SD Card. I'm guessing a lot of the less maintained applications won't be updated and thus won't be able to be installed on the SD Card.
Not many applications fall in this area but I'm sure people have a few apps that work as is and haven't been updated for ages.

[Q] Point in Apps2SD?

So i've done a little reading and here's my question:
The only point in moving your apps to your sd card is if you're out of space on internal memory. However, with apps in the range of ~1MB each, exactly HOW many apps does one need to download in order to run out of space?
I'm kind of reluctant do move them to the sd card since they'll generally load slower, probably operate slower if they need to load resources off it during runtime.
Is it really that easy to run out of space and, if yes, exactly how much is the slowdown from the memory card?
Thanks

It fills up fast, trust me.

Let's say you have around 80 mb left with a clean installed rom.
games can be about 13-20 MB each
normal apps usaly around 500 kb to 4mb
after maybe 15 apps and 4 games your are filled

After downloading Angry Birds I have 1 mb left of space.

how do i move apps to the sd?

Mariusrapi said:
how do i move apps to the sd?
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you need to have a custom rom with app2sd enabled, like wildpuzzle or Openfire.
After you have partitioned the sd card, it will increase the internal memory with the partioned part. Kinda like trick the phone that you have more internal memory then you already have.

Is it possible to just install apps2sd on a rooted stock ROM? WildPuzzle is too unstable for me and CM6 isn't out yet.

Have you tried openfire, I have never had to battery pull, it has JIT and is the fastest available ROM.

gonna give it a go now. If not I'll make with with a stock ROM for now.

RAM issues on rom

which samsung galaxy s4 rom uses less memory? I am using Slim Beam 4.3. I have done a factory reset and it says I only have 513mb avaliable and I don't use alot of apps

Moved to Sprint S4 Q&A

seanpowell95 said:
which samsung galaxy s4 rom uses less memory? I am using Slim Beam 4.3. I have done a factory reset and it says I only have 513mb avaliable and I don't use alot of apps
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Clearly you are confusing RAM and storage. Android fills your RAM with apps as unused memory is wasted memory. So Android will keep moving apps in and out of memory by use and priority.
Storage is what may be left on your internal memory by downloading a bunch of apps or creating many back ups on your phone and not deleting old ones. Where as AOSP ROMs may use about 500 MB less storage after gapps than Touchwiz ROMs, that is still not a big difference considering the 16 GB it comes with.

kennyglass123 said:
Clearly you are confusing RAM and storage. Android fills your RAM with apps as unused memory is wasted memory. So Android will keep moving apps in and out of memory by use and priority.
Storage is what may be left on your internal memory by downloading a bunch of apps or creating many back ups on your phone and not deleting old ones. Where as AOSP ROMs may use about 500 MB less storage after gapps than Touchwiz ROMs, that is still not a big difference considering the 16 GB it comes with.
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Gotha. Thanks KennyGlass. But after I do a full wipe and flash a new rom, there shouldn't be only 513 left without even intalling an app.

seanpowell95 said:
Gotha. Thanks KennyGlass. But after I do a full wipe and flash a new rom, there shouldn't be only 513 left without even intalling an app.
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Where are you measuring this? Are you talking internal or RAM?

kennyglass123 said:
Where are you measuring this? Are you talking internal or RAM?
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Inernal

seanpowell95 said:
Inernal
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So no, a data reset will not delete pictures, backups, or any of that. You will need to go through your internal storage and delete things.

Move your pics to external sd card as well as your big app data files
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bonebeatz1234 said:
Move your pics to external sd card as well as your big app data files
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Sorry. I meant to say memory. But it i guess ill be doing the same

I'm only passing on information that worked for me today.
I cleared up storage by installing twrp
1st: back up
2nd: wiped everything
3rd: wiped system
4th: re-installed rom and gapps
reboot
wala!!!!!!! after reinstalling all my apps, I have 8.28gb available

Safestrap storage question.

I'm new to safestrap on the M. Since a good deal of the internal storage is take up by the stock rom, when making a slot, how much storage is left over? I feel like there won't really be enough since most larger apps install to the internal storage and not the SD card.
I'm rooted but with a locked bootloader, so safestrap is my only option.
Thanks.

vjaamm said:
I'm new to safestrap on the M. Since a good deal of the internal storage is take up by the stock rom, when making a slot, how much storage is left over? I feel like there won't really be enough since most larger apps install to the internal storage and not the SD card.
I'm rooted but with a locked bootloader, so safestrap is my only option.
Thanks.
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Internal is already partitioned off into 4ish GB sections, so really you only get to exploit 4GB and about half of that is already dedicated to the stock ROM. I always ran 1GB slots when I ran SS because I use few apps. I've heard of people setting up 2GB slots but some of them would run into lag issues because they had so little memory issues.

vjaamm said:
I'm new to safestrap on the M. Since a good deal of the internal storage is take up by the stock rom, when making a slot, how much storage is left over? I feel like there won't really be enough since most larger apps install to the internal storage and not the SD card.
I'm rooted but with a locked bootloader, so safestrap is my only option.
Thanks.
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RikRong said:
Internal is already partitioned off into 4ish GB sections, so really you only get to exploit 4GB and about half of that is already dedicated to the stock ROM. I always ran 1GB slots when I ran SS because I use few apps. I've heard of people setting up 2GB slots but some of them would run into lag issues because they had so little memory issues.
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I thought you would chime in here Rik. I did not know how to answer.
Also if the op does my sd swap & mhous33's dst SS for it. Will SS BS use internal sd or external sd? What do you think?

aviwdoowks said:
I thought you would chime in here Rik. I did not know how to answer.
Also if the op does my sd swap & mhous33's dst SS for it. Will SS BS use internal sd or external sd? What do you think?
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Honestly, I'm not sure. I know I could save SS backups to my external, but I'm not sure about being able to actually swap them.

Thanks for the help! I'm gonna try the SS on stock and put a rom on and see what happens. I use a fair amount of apps, so I'm gonna go with the 2 gig and see what happens with lag and adjust from there if needed.

Space is all I want!

Hi all, so to start with, as the title says im constantly running out of space on the FN model 2015, so ive dived into the forum looking for help. First thing i tried was the sd card hack to combine my 64gb sdcard with the 8gb internal. Harra! it worked, but then i still run outa space as it dosen't seam to to use the sdcard space as i had hoped. It's like it just copys some of the data from the apps to the SD card like normal but without having to go into the each app and selecting external sdcard. Kinda thought no probs I'll download a custom rom with no samsung apps and with a min gapp giving me as much storage space i could get. I can't see one, starting to think there isnt one. So my question is, is it hard for me to take my backup of my stock rom and strip what I can out bearing in mind I'm a bit of a noob and have to follow instructions from the clever ROM makers? not to bothered about increasing the speed and looks just the space. Would be able nice to update them without having to delete a few and re-install the ones I deleted. Any advice on what coarse to take would be great. Maybe theres a ROM I've mist I could use and give thanks for?
Cheers
Running 6.0.1
Drebbs

Hi,
Instead of using Adoptable Storage, make 2 partitions on your SD, 1 FAT32 for photos,music,documents and another EXT4 for apps data. Use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd , i tested it.
You can make 2 partitions using PC or with TWRP Recovery.

drebbs said:
Hi all, so to start with, as the title says im constantly running out of space on the FN model 2015, so ive dived into the forum looking for help. First thing i tried was the sd card hack to combine my 64gb sdcard with the 8gb internal. Harra! it worked, but then i still run outa space as it dosen't seam to to use the sdcard space as i had hoped. It's like it just copys some of the data from the apps to the SD card like normal but without having to go into the each app and selecting external sdcard. Kinda thought no probs I'll download a custom rom with no samsung apps and with a min gapp giving me as much storage space i could get. I can't see one, starting to think there isnt one. So my question is, is it hard for me to take my backup of my stock rom and strip what I can out bearing in mind I'm a bit of a noob and have to follow instructions from the clever ROM makers? not to bothered about increasing the speed and looks just the space. Would be able nice to update them without having to delete a few and re-install the ones I deleted. Any advice on what coarse to take would be great. Maybe theres a ROM I've mist I could use and give thanks for?
Cheers
Running 6.0.1
Drebbs
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Hey i recommend rooting ur phone then download an app called move to sd card from playstore go to settings and choose download locations then select external sd card . Problem solved
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read post #415
here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...msung-j5-f-t3400101/post69989096#post69989096

Thanks for your reply! I went down the apps2SD route in the end. Kinda mest it up a bit but have free'd up nearly 1gb of space so thanks, that's more than enough! %) I ended up partitioning the SDcard and linking all the apps I'm not interested in, excel,Skype,Samsung etc. Anyway what i didn't realise was that i had mest the other part of the partition up. Ended up re-formatting the SDcard in recovery back to normal and those apps I didn't want 90% of the data of those have now been wiped %)