This phone has 8GB of memory (or 16GB for the other model). Can anyone tell me if all of this space is available for application installation? (excluding the space required for the system files etc)?
I thought I read somewhere that only 1GB was available for application installation while the rest could be used to store normal files like on the SD Card. If it is entirely available for application installation then I'm probably ok not upgrading the memory card as 8GB is plenty big enough for what I need. Even if it is limited to 1GB for application storage, this is plenty big enough for what I need.
TIA
1.8GB free for applications installation in the Galaxy S.
I assume the rest is used for storage space of user files like an extension to the SD card?
Correct.... It's an ideal dumping ground for Photos, Music or whatever takes your fancy.
I'm confused, after the 1.8gb where is the other 6.2gb?
The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
SiL3nTKiLL said:
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
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Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
Beards said:
Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
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more than likely the phone has been rooted
igniztion said:
The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
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ah makes sense now, thanks
vibez said:
more than likely the phone has been rooted
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Yes... I was thinking that myself but I'd just like to clear this one up.
fletcharama said:
Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
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Strictly speaking, developers need to update their application before it can be installed onto the SD Card. I'm guessing a lot of the less maintained applications won't be updated and thus won't be able to be installed on the SD Card.
Not many applications fall in this area but I'm sure people have a few apps that work as is and haven't been updated for ages.
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sorry for this question but i've just got this amazing phone but i've put some apps on the sd card and can't find the sd card on the phone ? even googled this but to no avail ! please help a newbie , thanks !
you mean the physical location of the SD Card? Its under the back cover. You need to remove the battery to get it out.
Also, apps are not stored on the SD card, but rather on the internal memory of the phone.
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
QMAN101 said:
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
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thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
audino said:
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
marra2 said:
thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
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+1 for Astro File Manager! It also has a built in apk installer AND task killer. I love multitasking apps.
your movie should appear in the Gallery
twiggy114 said:
Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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another yes and no. Due to a bug both RAM AND ROM are limited to ~230MB ...all are waiting for the next update.
Took me 10 mins to type this in landscape mode due to keyboard bugs!
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audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
audino said:
Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
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Even more importantly - there would be no more disincentive for developers to start creating more interesting media-rich applications.
As it stands now, if you put a 10MB app on the market very few are going to be willing to waste that much space on their phone to download it. So, you wouldn't make much money on it. So, you are likely not going to bother developing it.
With relaxed storage restrictions will come nicer (looking, at least) apps...
Found this baby in DeFrost 0.9 base rom.
Can move about 80% of apps to sd
Think its installable to any rom.
Not taking the credit, just passing around the joy.
Enjoy
So I understand, all it does is set the install location for you... nothing special, just saves you typing the pm setInstallLocation command!
Has anyone had any success with this? After configuring this to install to external memory and then installing google earth roughly the same amount of space is used on internal memory as compared to if it was installed fully in internal memory.
I realise some data will always be installed into internal memory but should it be close to 100% of the application size?
I've found the same issue with ScummVM too..
make sure that google earth did in fact get installed to sd-card. go under settings > Applications > Manager Applications > and the SD-Card tab and see if Google Earth is there. if its not, find it in the installed application tab and 'Move to SD Card'.
I've noticed that sometimes the app is still installed on the internal memory and needs to be moved to SD-card manually.
Does this only work if you are rooted? I tried it on my Desire and it didn't do anything? Stock 2.2, no root
Look here for not rooted devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742379
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Look here for not rooted devices
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Cheers. I actually got to this thread from a post in that thread but it didn't state you needed root for this to work.
I will do the other way but it is fiddly as I don't want it to install all apps to SD so if this worked it would be easier to change the setting.
Ah well
I tried that and even moved between SD and internal memory a few times to see if it makes any difference. From what I can tell, if I install to SD ~16mb is used on internal memory for Google Earth and another ~4mb goes to the SD card. So there is a difference but its only small and a lot smaller than I would have expected.
How much memory is taken on your internal memory when you installed Google Earth?
Super thx !!
does this work on galaxy s rooted android 2.1 ?????????
Aqrab said:
does this work on galaxy s rooted android 2.1 ?????????
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No. FroYo a2sd only. This was for when we didn't have old a2sd on our FroYo roms, no point with an ext.
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I tried that and even moved between SD and internal memory a few times to see if it makes any difference. From what I can tell, if I install to SD ~16mb is used on internal memory for Google Earth and another ~4mb goes to the SD card. So there is a difference but its only small and a lot smaller than I would have expected.
How much memory is taken on your internal memory when you installed Google Earth?
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Usually 25mb or something like that, w/ FroYo a2sd it was 16mb.
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This installed succesfully to Froyo Huawei Ideos u8150 (Also known as a T-mobile Comet)
Hello all,
I just replaced the stock 2GB external SD card with a 16GB and transferred the movie over to the new 16GB card.
I thought all the apps that I'm downloading would be saving to the external 2GB SD card, but surprisingly that's not the case? I thought by default it would save to the external storage card first.
How do I manage where I want my apps and future downloads to be saved? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
All I see under settings -> SD card and phone storage -> (it shows all the info, but only gives me the option to unmount the storage on both internal and external cards.
Also on the very bottom of that screen it shows: "Application storage...Available space...1.50GB"
Is this a partition within the internal storage on the phone where all the apps have been getting saved to?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Basically the Vibrant gives u 16GB or space, 2GBs of this is for Applications an such, while the 14GB partition is for media (music, movies etc).
When you install applications currently they will install onto your 2GB partition. Once Froyo (android 2.2) hits you'll be able to select if you want the apps to install onto your SDCard.
Once the modding scene picks up a bit more I'm sure A2SD will be available and also a 2.2 port prior to the official one.
Hope this helps!
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Basically the Vibrant gives u 16GB or space, 2GBs of this is for Applications an such, while the 14GB partition is for media (music, movies etc).
When you install applications currently they will install onto your 2GB partition. Once Froyo (android 2.2) hits you'll be able to select if you want the apps to install onto your SDCard.
Once the modding scene picks up a bit more I'm sure A2SD will be available and also a 2.2 port prior to the official one.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the reply!
So basically right now we can't change the default settings of it saving to the partition space on the device itself? In my mind, "...hhmm there has to be a way around this...maybe?" LOL
I can't get the phone to mount on my PC or MAC. On the phone it shows as USB storage device connected and it also displays a window for me to mount or unmount....Nothing shows on the computer for me to be able to access it...hhmm
This is all so odd because my buddy has the old Galaxy i7500 and I'm able to plug his phone in and it mounts in seconds.
The only way for me to access the card is for me to use the SD adapter card and physically take it out of the phone every time..
In order to connect to a mac usb debugging must be checked.
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In order to connect to a mac usb debugging must be checked.
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Thanks blackerwater, forgive me, but where would I go to check that?
Settings>applications>development
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If i replace the 2 gig sd card with avatar on with my 16 gig class 4 should i part it with a ext 4 or just format it all fat 32 ??? I was thinking just fat 32 the whole card since the apps default to the internal mem ..
Really? Not to be a downer guys, but why is this in the Development forum? Can we move this over to General or Q&A please. Once the Development forum starts getting flooded there's no going back.
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If i replace the 2 gig sd card with avatar on with my 16 gig class 4 should i part it with a ext 4 or just format it all fat 32 ??? I was thinking just fat 32 the whole card since the apps default to the internal mem ..
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I just reformatted it FAT32 all the way. Then I transferred both movie files of Avatar and it works perfectly.
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Really? Not to be a downer guys, but why is this in the Development forum? Can we move this over to General or Q&A please. Once the Development forum starts getting flooded there's no going back.
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If the issue that this thread is referring to is indeed related to a development problem, would it not be proper for it to be here?
How do you move posts?
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Settings>applications>development
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Perfecto. Thank you!
Thanks for the quick responce iunlock im formatting now ...
Also, it's best to keep as much apps on the system memory as you can. Accessing data on the SD card is slower than from the internal memory.
g1g said:
Thanks for the quick responce iunlock im formatting now ...
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You're welcome.
g1g said:
If i replace the 2 gig sd card with avatar on with my 16 gig class 4 should i part it with a ext 4 or just format it all fat 32 ??? I was thinking just fat 32 the whole card since the apps default to the internal mem ..
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No reason in creating an ext partition at this time since there is not much support currently for this kind of mod on the SGS. In the future i'm sure ppl will get this mod out there, but for the time being you should be good with Fat32.
Plus installing the apps on the internal mem is the best option for speed an such.
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No reason in creating an ext partition at this time since there is not much support currently for this kind of mod on the SGS. In the future i'm sure ppl will get this mod out there, but for the time being you should be good with Fat32.
Plus installing the apps on the internal mem is the best option for speed an such.
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I hope it's sooner than later.
As the title says, I'm a little confused by the folder "sdcard" and the sub-folder "external_sd".
This is my first native Android device. I've been using Android on my HD2 for about 8 months now and I was fine with the "sdcard" folder actually being my sd card. Now, I've got internal memory of 16GB and that has an "sdcard" folder that my apps use to store stuff to the sd card, but they're not really storing anything on the sd card - it's a folder on the internal memory.
I'd ideally like to have internal memory and an sdcard folder that really is a sd card, so that when apps store things to "/sdcard" it does go to my sd card.
Can someone please clarify this for me?
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im not 100 precent sure on this but i think this is how it works.
thr tab has an internal non removable 2gb drove that is mounted as /
there is a internal non removable 16 gb drive that mounts as /sdcard ( /mnt/sdcard/ ) this is where your apps are installed.
then whaever external microsd card you insert gets mounted to /sdcard/external_sd/ ( /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/ )
. why its done like this is kinda stupid. apps like titanium backup you gave to type "sdcards/external_sd" as the backup folder if you want to put your backups on the microsd card since it thinks /sdcard is a removable device, which it isnt.
this is where i store pics vids and music crap.
also clockworkmod does seem to correctly put backups on the external card automatically.
heres a tip. create an empty folder on the external card called "THIS IS THE EXTERNALS SD" and likewise for the internal. that way when you are using a app or mounting as usb storage you can quickly and eaisly recognize what drive is what.
i dont know if tha answeres your question but i hope it helps.
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im not 100 precent sure on this but i think this is how it works.
thr tab has an internal non removable 2gb drove that is mounted as /
there is a internal non removable 16 gb drive that mounts as /sdcard ( /mnt/sdcard/ ) this is where your apps are installed.
then whaever external microsd card you insert gets mounted to /sdcard/external_sd/ ( /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/ )
. why its done like this is kinda stupid. apps like titanium backup you gave to type "sdcards/external_sd" as the backup folder if you want to put your backups on the microsd card since it thinks /sdcard is a removable device, which it isnt.
this is where i store pics vids and music crap.
also clockworkmod does seem to correctly put backups on the external card automatically.
heres a tip. create an empty folder on the external card called "THIS IS THE EXTERNALS SD" and likewise for the internal. that way when you are using a app or mounting as usb storage you can quickly and eaisly recognize what drive is what.
i dont know if tha answeres your question but i hope it helps.
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Thanks Gophet. That's pretty much what I assumed, and it was specifically apps like Titanium and Launcher Pro that backup to the SD card that made me ask the question in the first place. Shame I can't set backup folders for everything!
Cheers mate
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gophet said:
there is a internal non removable 16 gb drive that mounts as /sdcard ( /mnt/sdcard/ ) this is where your apps are installed.
then whaever external microsd card you insert gets mounted to /sdcard/external_sd/ ( /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/ )
. why its done like this is kinda stupid.
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Actually, the reason it is done like this is pretty logical.
Applications get stored in /data/apps (or /system/apps if they are system apps), and can use storage in /data/data. However, on most regular Android devices, the space in these partitions is quite limited, so if an application needs a lot more space (e.g. a game), it stores it's other resources where there is a lot more space and generally this in the sdcard. So many apps are hardcoded to look in /sdcard.
Since the GSM Tabs have 16GB of flash memory, it makes sense to have this space where it is going to be the most use, and that is going to be /sdcard because it is where most applications expect it to be.
If it didn't do this, you'd find that you would have to have a MicroSD card installed on the Tab in order for most applications to work properly, which is a nonsense when you have all that additional internal memory to play with.
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Cheers Dave.
That does make sense. I guess it's because I'm coming from a device where I only had about 70MB free space internally, so I needed an SD card, and was constantly moving apps over to it (if they would work there). I guess I need to rethink my ways and just use my SD card for media, with the "sdcard" folder being used for apps.
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Cheers Dave.
That does make sense. I guess it's because I'm coming from a device where I only had about 70MB free space internally, so I needed an SD card, and was constantly moving apps over to it (if they would work there). I guess I need to rethink my ways and just use my SD card for media, with the "sdcard" folder being used for apps.
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If you are referring to our beloved HD2 bud then why do you manually move apps? Just use a sd-ext partition, most the nand roms come with the support or you can flash a zip to enable it. You dont need to mess about with linux to create the partitions you can just use the one included in CWR, it creates a ext3 partition that works fine, ive been using it for ages.
Depending on the rom, the user data will either be moved to your partition or the partition will actually been seen by the HD2 as internal memory so our euro HD2 can actually have 1GB of internal memory.
I myself got a Tab recently and am loving it, its like the big brother to our HD2's
Hey did you notice how small the HD2 seems now?
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If you are referring to our beloved HD2 bud then why do you manually move apps? Just use a sd-ext partition, most the nand roms come with the support or you can flash a zip to enable it. You dont need to mess about with linux to create the partitions you can just use the one included in CWR, it creates a ext3 partition that works fine, ive been using it for ages.
Depending on the rom, the user data will either be moved to your partition or the partition will actually been seen by the HD2 as internal memory so our euro HD2 can actually have 1GB of internal memory.
I myself got a Tab recently and am loving it, its like the big brother to our HD2's
Hey did you notice how small the HD2 seems now?
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I'm more than happy to move things to the SD card on the HD2. Titanium can do it in batches too, which makes life a lot easier. To be honest, I found a ROM that I liked a couple of months ago and I've just stuck with it. It's just a basic NAND ROM with no support for ext sd partitioning, but it's fine as it is. If I do ever flash a newer ROM to it then I'll probably stick with the same setup, to be honest. I'm a bit set in my ways
And yeah, it's funny you should say that about the size of the HD2. It used to feel quite large - a really good size - but after 1 day with the tab it feels like a matchbox in a giant's hand.
Excuse me, is there any mod for increasing your internal memory like galaxy s3 having your micro sd like internal memor??
Thanks!!
23Kie said:
Excuse me, is there any mod for increasing your internal memory like galaxy s3 having your micro sd like internal memor??
Thanks!!
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nope, that requires repartitioning so that the sizes are split differently in the internal memory...i don't think anyone cares about this as long as the phone supports 64GB external.... the method was used for reviving the superbricked phone a year ago on ICS smaller system partitions resulted in a successful booting rom but with less storage.
But is there any way for installing all app and games in micro sd like kernel perseus whick allow install all in microsd whatever app or game
Thanks!!!
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nope, that requires repartitioning so that the sizes are split differently in the internal memory...i don't think anyone cares about this as long as the phone supports 64GB external.... the method was used for reviving the superbricked phone a year ago on ICS smaller system partitions resulted in a successful booting rom but with less storage.
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That's the ****ty thing with the S4, can't move apps to SD card
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But is there any way for installing all app and games in micro sd like kernel perseus whick allow install all in microsd whatever app or game
Thanks!!!
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I've had luck with the FolderMount, liked it and bought the full version. There's a thread for it in the themes and apps section
PS. You should open new threads in the right sections :good:
There was a mod on the S3 that swapped the internal and SD memory - i.e. it fooled the system in thinking the SD card was internal.
Give it time, im sure the mod will become available - you will probably need to root
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That's the ****ty thing with the S4, can't move apps to SD card
I've had luck with the FolderMount, liked it and bought the full version. There's a thread for it in the themes and apps section
PS. You should open new threads in the right sections :good:
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funny thing is i didn't know that hehe i have the phone in my closet for about two weeks now i don't use it since iam waiting for my case and SP to arrive since i ordered them from ebay.... bad luck XD
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There was a mod on the S3 that swapped the internal and SD memory - i.e. it fooled the system in thinking the SD card was internal.
Give it time, im sure the mod will become available - you will probably need to root
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AFAIK the trick was modifing the vold.fstab file in system/etc/ still i think its useless since the most space is set on internal sd and not the system swapping them makes your storage space even less than it already is...who wants that to happen ?
he can get a light ROM i've seen one in the forums calles biochemical TW i think not quite sure which is 800MB well stripped but still he can add what he needs only and not get to the crazy 1.5 GB system