sorry for this question but i've just got this amazing phone but i've put some apps on the sd card and can't find the sd card on the phone ? even googled this but to no avail ! please help a newbie , thanks !
you mean the physical location of the SD Card? Its under the back cover. You need to remove the battery to get it out.
Also, apps are not stored on the SD card, but rather on the internal memory of the phone.
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
QMAN101 said:
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
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thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
audino said:
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
marra2 said:
thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
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+1 for Astro File Manager! It also has a built in apk installer AND task killer. I love multitasking apps.
your movie should appear in the Gallery
twiggy114 said:
Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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another yes and no. Due to a bug both RAM AND ROM are limited to ~230MB ...all are waiting for the next update.
Took me 10 mins to type this in landscape mode due to keyboard bugs!
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audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
audino said:
Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
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Even more importantly - there would be no more disincentive for developers to start creating more interesting media-rich applications.
As it stands now, if you put a 10MB app on the market very few are going to be willing to waste that much space on their phone to download it. So, you wouldn't make much money on it. So, you are likely not going to bother developing it.
With relaxed storage restrictions will come nicer (looking, at least) apps...
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Found this baby in DeFrost 0.9 base rom.
Can move about 80% of apps to sd
Think its installable to any rom.
Not taking the credit, just passing around the joy.
Enjoy
So I understand, all it does is set the install location for you... nothing special, just saves you typing the pm setInstallLocation command!
Has anyone had any success with this? After configuring this to install to external memory and then installing google earth roughly the same amount of space is used on internal memory as compared to if it was installed fully in internal memory.
I realise some data will always be installed into internal memory but should it be close to 100% of the application size?
I've found the same issue with ScummVM too..
make sure that google earth did in fact get installed to sd-card. go under settings > Applications > Manager Applications > and the SD-Card tab and see if Google Earth is there. if its not, find it in the installed application tab and 'Move to SD Card'.
I've noticed that sometimes the app is still installed on the internal memory and needs to be moved to SD-card manually.
Does this only work if you are rooted? I tried it on my Desire and it didn't do anything? Stock 2.2, no root
Look here for not rooted devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742379
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Look here for not rooted devices
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Cheers. I actually got to this thread from a post in that thread but it didn't state you needed root for this to work.
I will do the other way but it is fiddly as I don't want it to install all apps to SD so if this worked it would be easier to change the setting.
Ah well
I tried that and even moved between SD and internal memory a few times to see if it makes any difference. From what I can tell, if I install to SD ~16mb is used on internal memory for Google Earth and another ~4mb goes to the SD card. So there is a difference but its only small and a lot smaller than I would have expected.
How much memory is taken on your internal memory when you installed Google Earth?
Super thx !!
does this work on galaxy s rooted android 2.1 ?????????
Aqrab said:
does this work on galaxy s rooted android 2.1 ?????????
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No. FroYo a2sd only. This was for when we didn't have old a2sd on our FroYo roms, no point with an ext.
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thegrantonstarcause said:
I tried that and even moved between SD and internal memory a few times to see if it makes any difference. From what I can tell, if I install to SD ~16mb is used on internal memory for Google Earth and another ~4mb goes to the SD card. So there is a difference but its only small and a lot smaller than I would have expected.
How much memory is taken on your internal memory when you installed Google Earth?
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Usually 25mb or something like that, w/ FroYo a2sd it was 16mb.
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My 2c
This installed succesfully to Froyo Huawei Ideos u8150 (Also known as a T-mobile Comet)
This phone has 8GB of memory (or 16GB for the other model). Can anyone tell me if all of this space is available for application installation? (excluding the space required for the system files etc)?
I thought I read somewhere that only 1GB was available for application installation while the rest could be used to store normal files like on the SD Card. If it is entirely available for application installation then I'm probably ok not upgrading the memory card as 8GB is plenty big enough for what I need. Even if it is limited to 1GB for application storage, this is plenty big enough for what I need.
TIA
1.8GB free for applications installation in the Galaxy S.
I assume the rest is used for storage space of user files like an extension to the SD card?
Correct.... It's an ideal dumping ground for Photos, Music or whatever takes your fancy.
I'm confused, after the 1.8gb where is the other 6.2gb?
The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
SiL3nTKiLL said:
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
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Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
Beards said:
Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
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more than likely the phone has been rooted
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The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
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ah makes sense now, thanks
vibez said:
more than likely the phone has been rooted
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Yes... I was thinking that myself but I'd just like to clear this one up.
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Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
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Strictly speaking, developers need to update their application before it can be installed onto the SD Card. I'm guessing a lot of the less maintained applications won't be updated and thus won't be able to be installed on the SD Card.
Not many applications fall in this area but I'm sure people have a few apps that work as is and haven't been updated for ages.
besides apps, is there anything else stored in the internal storage? i just got android on my HD2 and got everything set up, and i really don't feel like formatting my sd for a2sd, and i won't need too much space for apps.
also, is there a way to install apps on the sd without formatting anything? thanks.
System stuff, like the system.img from the android build you downloaded, uhh cache, HSPL/SPL, MAGLDR (This is if you're using a NAND android build). Mhm, pretty much that? Note even if you delete some system stuff it won't really free of storage for apps, as the memory is partitioned (meaning that it has a set amount of available space for apps, etc, and a set amount for system).
Well you could use the the freed system data for apps, just navigate to /system/apps and copy your apks to there. You can use droid or root explorer, or any explorer that has access to the roots of your device.
You can try move2sd, but it doesn't completely install the app to sd, it just moves a big chunk of the app to sd, leaving some left in the phone.
huh, seems like moving to sd will work for stuff like Astro File Manager but not system stuff PowerAmp. gonna try games if i can get them to download from the market.
have another question. is it possible for WP7 to load from the SD and boot from android, preferably without deleting the contents of the sd? i can't deal with magldr because of my touch screen problems. whenever i use the end key, my touch screen could start freezing, and i've set up android so that i never have to use the end key.
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huh, seems like moving to sd will work for stuff like Astro File Manager but not system stuff PowerAmp. gonna try games if i can get them to download from the market.
have another question. is it possible for WP7 to load from the SD and boot from android, preferably without deleting the contents of the sd? i can't deal with magldr because of my touch screen problems. whenever i use the end key, my touch screen could start freezing, and i've set up android so that i never have to use the end key.
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WP7 needs to be installed on NAND with magldr. You can run android off SD,then. Thats the only way to dualboot.
zarathustrax said:
WP7 needs to be installed on NAND with magldr. You can run android off SD,then. Thats the only way to dualboot.
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crap.. i was afraid of that. oh well. guess i'll stick with android for now. will prepaid work with the web daypass on t-mobile?
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Note even if you delete some system stuff it won't really free of storage for apps, as the memory is partitioned (meaning that it has a set amount of available space for apps, etc, and a set amount for system).
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Wow didn't realize that... thanks for the insightful info
I am tired of using link2sd, and low memory of x8.
Is it possible to make effective swap file for x8?
That will give ability to install everything in ram, and then it will be moved to swap, so no linksd is needed.
Also all software which need more than 90 mb of free memory can get that memory becouse system lib will be moved to swap file.
As i know guys from Cyagen made even support for it, but it should be activated.
Is any rom builder can add swap support to their roms?
1. Supposed be in general section
2. We have native app2sd or you can go to cyanogenmod settings then go to applications then select install to external memory.
Hope i help
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gluhov said:
I am tired of using link2sd, and low memory of x8.
Is it possible to make effective swap file for x8?
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Not unless the bootloader is cracked.
gluhov said:
That will give ability to install everything in ram, and then it will be moved to swap, so no linksd is needed.
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The swap file does not work that way. Swap is used to augment the RAM. The X8 has:
1. RAM space - memory to run programs in. ~176MB
2. ROM space - Internal Storage - ~212 MB
3. External Storage - Your SD Card.
gluhov said:
Also all software which need more than 90 mb of free memory can get that memory becouse system lib will be moved to swap file.
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You can, theoretically, use up your entire RAM to run an app. The Android System, has a "smart (???, others might disagree )" way fo handling tasks in which it "caches" background apps until they are called again. Although this is also periodically cleared. But some apps are required to stay in RAM, these are responisible for keeping your phone working.
Google "Android VM manager " and the "Android Memory Manager" if you want to learn more.
In short, having a larger RAM or using a swap file will just "imrpove" multitasking performance. notice that i put the word "improve" in qoutes.
Honestly, I've tried on Froyobread v015, and it lagged the whole rom down like sh!t >.<. After removing it was I able to have a decent fps. You can try it for yourself by using swapper on the android market or CWM recovery .
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Honestly, I've tried on Froyobread v015, and it lagged the whole rom down like sh!t >.<. After removing it was I able to have a decent fps. You can try it for yourself by using swapper on the android market or CWM recovery .
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Did you verify it was working. Open up the terminal app and type in "free" without th quotes. It would show you the disposition of your RAM. if swap is zero then its not working.
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gluhov said:
that will give ability to install everything in ram
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wtf am i reading?
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wtf am i reading?
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hi all i m new on android on our device.
i have that problem :
on my device i have a sd with 8 gb (i know..it s not very much... ),with installed android,and other app on by wm 6.5.
android some days ago started to say impossible install the app because not enough space.
i linked device on pc,and see there are about 2 gb free space on sd... ...
well where is the problem for android?
he decided to give some space factory how device's space, and need a partition to see remain space how sd space?
sorry for my english i m from italy(and google traductor it s not better than me).
Maybe a market problem? The updated market gives me low space errors sometimes. in phone settings you can go to manage applications then tap on 'all' and scroll down to market and tap on it. then tap in uninstall update. Works for me for the next app I download but then it updates again and gives me the error for the next app. Sorry if i'm not understanding you but it's worth a try.
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Maybe a market problem? The updated market gives me low space errors sometimes. in phone settings you can go to manage applications then tap on 'all' and scroll down to market and tap on it. then tap in uninstall update. Works for me for the next app I download but then it updates again and gives me the error for the next app. Sorry if i'm not understanding you but it's worth a try.
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thanks for the quickly answer,but i don't think it s a market problem,because in the notify bar there is in continue the messagge the space it s finishing...but it s not true....20 minutes ago i erased 900Mb lol.... i suppose a pair of app on 900Mb free can be installed....or not? (i mean app and not games.)
i suppose android decide to take some space(for example 3gb of the sd) and use that how device memory.
then when that space it s full,it say the space it s finish.
maybe if our sd it s partitioned (for example a part with the apps of win +exe of android and another part called sd,used for sd card for android) can install app in sd space how sd and then not how device memory.... lol...i know it s complicate to understand what i m saying..
Maybe your sd card is partitioned? Try instaling http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html and see if you have something wrong in your sd card
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Maybe your sd card is partitioned? Try instaling http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html and see if you have something wrong in your sd card
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no no my sd is not partitioned
Have you tried simply rebooting or rescanning media files?
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if youre booting android and installing apps on that droid... maybe its because of the size limitation of system.ext2 files which created... who knows.... right...