So i've done a little reading and here's my question:
The only point in moving your apps to your sd card is if you're out of space on internal memory. However, with apps in the range of ~1MB each, exactly HOW many apps does one need to download in order to run out of space?
I'm kind of reluctant do move them to the sd card since they'll generally load slower, probably operate slower if they need to load resources off it during runtime.
Is it really that easy to run out of space and, if yes, exactly how much is the slowdown from the memory card?
Thanks
It fills up fast, trust me.
Let's say you have around 80 mb left with a clean installed rom.
games can be about 13-20 MB each
normal apps usaly around 500 kb to 4mb
after maybe 15 apps and 4 games your are filled
After downloading Angry Birds I have 1 mb left of space.
how do i move apps to the sd?
Mariusrapi said:
how do i move apps to the sd?
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you need to have a custom rom with app2sd enabled, like wildpuzzle or Openfire.
After you have partitioned the sd card, it will increase the internal memory with the partioned part. Kinda like trick the phone that you have more internal memory then you already have.
Is it possible to just install apps2sd on a rooted stock ROM? WildPuzzle is too unstable for me and CM6 isn't out yet.
Have you tried openfire, I have never had to battery pull, it has JIT and is the fastest available ROM.
gonna give it a go now. If not I'll make with with a stock ROM for now.
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sorry for this question but i've just got this amazing phone but i've put some apps on the sd card and can't find the sd card on the phone ? even googled this but to no avail ! please help a newbie , thanks !
you mean the physical location of the SD Card? Its under the back cover. You need to remove the battery to get it out.
Also, apps are not stored on the SD card, but rather on the internal memory of the phone.
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
QMAN101 said:
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
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thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
audino said:
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
marra2 said:
thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
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+1 for Astro File Manager! It also has a built in apk installer AND task killer. I love multitasking apps.
your movie should appear in the Gallery
twiggy114 said:
Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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another yes and no. Due to a bug both RAM AND ROM are limited to ~230MB ...all are waiting for the next update.
Took me 10 mins to type this in landscape mode due to keyboard bugs!
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audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
flarbear said:
The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
audino said:
Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
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Even more importantly - there would be no more disincentive for developers to start creating more interesting media-rich applications.
As it stands now, if you put a 10MB app on the market very few are going to be willing to waste that much space on their phone to download it. So, you wouldn't make much money on it. So, you are likely not going to bother developing it.
With relaxed storage restrictions will come nicer (looking, at least) apps...
Hi
first off all I should thanks all developers of hd2 andriod who are the reason that we are always excited with our Hd2.
After Refreshing xda site for every 3 hours to see the nand release I finally managed to get the news...
After installing the nand version I was so excited speed was great battery life superb and extremely stable
so I have started migrating from my ram version to nand version
Soon I was installing my apps from market until I reached an error that I've never seen before "LOW MEMORY " I was shocked I checked the space and saw I only had 1 mb free space
I searched the forum and found out that some users has 100mb while some had 600mb free after installation, I thought it might be my and other mistakes which led to 100mb but after reading more I've found all 512mb rom HD2 will have 100mb free internal memory after installation
So if its gonna be like that I think I should step back to SD version only coz of internal memory,
I wanna know your suggestions.. or solution? Ive already tried moving some apps to sd but guys.... not all of them have the ability....
hossshad said:
Hi
first off all I should thanks all developers of hd2 andriod who are the reason that we are always excited with our Hd2.
After Refreshing xda site for every 3 hours to see the nand release I finally managed to get the news...
After installing the nand version I was so excited speed was great battery life superb and extremely stable
so I have started migrating from my ram version to nand version
Soon I was installing my apps from market until I reached an error that I've never seen before "LOW MEMORY " I was shocked I checked the space and saw I only had 1 mb free space
I searched the forum and found out that some users has 100mb while some had 600mb free after installation, I thought it might be my and other mistakes which led to 100mb but after reading more I've found all 512mb rom HD2 will have 100mb free internal memory after installation
So if its gonna be like that I think I should step back to SD version only coz of internal memory,
I wanna know your suggestions.. or solution? Ive already tried moving some apps to sd but guys.... not all of them have the ability....
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well hope the Devs will get EURO HD2 owners a ext4 partition on SD that will act as internal memory... i guess its being thought about.
in the meanwhile use apps like move2sd to install apps to SD...
oh i have LEO1024 no issues here
I just flashed the NEXUSHD2 and i have 216 mb of free space,that is more than enough for me.
i have like 700mb
I think that this thread is not for boasting about your Leo1024, but it rather raises an important issue. While ROMs from NAND are a big step ahead, running out of space is a serious problem, especially today, when apps can take about 20-30 mb (i.e. Opera Mobile 10, Firefox 4 with cache).
I see three possible solutions to this problem:
- using native froyo apps2fat, while being problematic, it's simple and available out of the box
- wait for developers to allow us to use data.img on our SD Card, like in good old SD Card builds
- or use apps2ext like all other Android users do (when it'll be possible).
Just down the App 2 SD app off market and move all the apps you downloaded to sd and that should free up your internal memory
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well hope the Devs will get EURO HD2 owners a ext4 partition on SD that will act as internal memory... i guess its being thought about.
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Has anyone done this before?
I am getting the same problem... I hope a solution for this comes up fast.... nbot able to install any games....
I am using MDJ Gingerbread NAND Rom, and the solution I found was to move apps to SD using Titanium Backup paid app. Worth the price, trust me.
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I just flashed the NEXUSHD2 and i have 216 mb of free space,that is more than enough for me.
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216 mb of free space for me to, with the exact same ROM.
this has been an issue since back in the days of the G1, not enough internal memory, this is why a lot of the newer android devices come with a bigger internal memory, apps2sd will solve the problem, so you can install apps on the sd card instead of the internal memory. You need to add it before you start to install apps to keep the internal memory at max.
I went into the system folder and deleted stuff i didnt need like ringtones, alarms, notifications, wallpapers. Left me with some amount of space but yeah, the real solution are apps that move apps to sd.
You guys are in luck. Takaaki has posted a test build he made for himself that can store the data on the sd card. You can even use your old hd2one data.img if you have used it before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It's a test build and he won't be answering questions.
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216 mb of free space for me to, with the exact same ROM.
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same as me....i love this rom alot
OK..I've done everything, installed DFT Android ROM for HTC LEO etc...everything seems to be working fine, BUT..((
Most of the apps from Market or any other cannot be moved from Phone memory to SD card, thus consuming all phone memory very fast, and disabling me to install any more apps...and we all know that Android rules just because there are so many apps for it...
So, my question is: is there any possible way of making Android install apps to SD card, rather then phone memory? 'Cause this way, my 16Gig card isn't much of use on Android )
Please help, because there is no point in having Android on this device, if I can install only so many apps on phone memory...
Very thankful in advance....
Greeting from remote Bosnia ))
Which Rom are you using?
I am using Hyperdroid and it allows me to move apps to SD.
And they are working fine.
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
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I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
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The best method would be to create an ext partition for your phone. ALL the apps that would normally installed on the phone will be moved onto this partition on your SDcard, saving you space. However, the trade off is speed. It will be slightly slower, but I don't think you'll even notice the speed difference day-to-day.
You can follow my guide here on how to make an ext partition without losing your data on your SDcard. It should only take like 5min to do. [HOW-TO] Make Ext4 from Recovery Without Losing FAT32 Data
well, there are some apps on the market that allows u to move all the installed apps in the internal memory to the storage card.
Try App 2SD Enabler. When you run the app, be sure to read the instructions.
If that doesnt work, Titanium Backup has a function in it that allows you to move any installed app u want from internal to storage memory (when u open the app, press Menu and then Batch. There should be an option somewhere there)
edit: keep in mind that some apps such as widgets, have to be on the internal memory to work properly. The Ext4 method is good if u want to increase the internal memory (by sacrifasing some storage memory), but you won't be able to connect your phone to the pc via Mass Storage. Plus, if it's the method with the 3 partitions(tbh i don't know if it's just for the 3partition method or any partition number), some of the storage card will be used from the OS as well, making the removal of the SD card impossible.
I would recommend App 2 SD. I use it to move all the apps it can to the SD card and it really does free up a lot of space.
Does Titanium Backup allow all apps to be moved too SD card? Just curious because Apps2SD doesnt move all apps to the SD card just some of them from my experience..
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The original DFT Desire ROM wasnt rooted correctly so use Z4Root from market then try using apps like Titanium and App2SD etc etc.
As an alternative, if you like sense but without all the bloat and lag try the rom in my signature, its a stripped down version oh DesireHD it flies like **** of stick and has all the best bits of sense
Try a different ROM
The DFT rom was also my first, but the internal memory filled up in no time and made it unusable for me.
In my experience, if you move an app to the SD card, some residual data goes onto the internal memory so you will find that you still use it up. As mentioned above, you will need to put certain apps and all widgets on the internal memory anyway.
I would go for a 'clean' rom that gives you plenty of free memory. You should then have no problem with it filling up. Titanium backup (free from market) is a good app, although Apps2SD (also free) is good as it lets you know how much space you have left.
I settled on the prj rom in my signature as it gives 180Mb free space from install and everything works as it is based on the DFT rom with minimal tweaks. There are plenty of clean roms out there, so try some out.
The best solution really for EU HD2's (512MB) is to use a rom that supports Data2SD as that actually extends your internal memory to the partition on SD card so you have say 1GB of internal memory, this is much better then any other current methods as its much more compatible with apps.
Also, dont mess about with Gpartid or other partition apps, You can use CWR to do it, just partition 1GB and then choose 0 for swap. (unless told otherwise by dev).
Thanks everyone, really...
I did this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931126
Partitioned the card during setup and now I have 1Gig, which is OK..also the ROM is really stable and fast.... Try this, I'm quite happy, it works great and it is an upgraded version of DFT Desire ROM... Cheers!!!
Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
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This needs to go in the Q&A forum, not the development forum.
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Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
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u can try one ap2sd rom capabile or ap2ext.
Spacetower said:
Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
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Yea but i am already run appmonster and i run all apps from sdcard and still i only get 14mb Free and still want to use all phonememory that is avalible.
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ap2sd, data2ext is different
Try the ROM in my sig. 320mb of free storage after you freed up 24mb from magldr.
with data2ext you make an ext2/3/4 partion on your sd card and the phone shows it as phone memory,but it depend on the ROM if it uses data2ext or sometimes you can choose it in a configfile. so just try another rom, my favorite is coredroid, a Desire HD ROM but very fast and with widgets in the notification bar like Galaxy S
Just to make this clear. By internal storage, they mean the ROM of your device. So that means you have 512 ROM. And ROM is the space for where the OS/bootloader, radio, apps, get installed.
Therefore when you say there is only 125 mb space free, that means that the android rom you just installed & bootloader took up the 387mb ROM you so claim to be missing. So is anything wrong with your device? Conclusion: No. Solutions? The people above have given them.
In my phone, when i run appmonster it says:
Phone 114,00MB / 24,05 MB Apps: 49
SD 14,83 / 6,93 GB
Maybe i missunderstand but the phone complain against my phone-storage.
ap2sd, data2ext is different
Installed coredroid and now i dont have any problems with space
Didnt know what the problem was so i reeinstalled another version of Android and it seems to work nice, it is very very fast.
Thanx for all your help.
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i have the 8 gig stock card that came with the phone. it used to have a lot of memory but after flashing a few roms (usualy virtuous) i noticed i have alot less memory. can someone recommend a way for me to clear out some storage space? thanks
cirjeffrey said:
i have the 8 gig stock card that came with the phone. it used to have a lot of memory but after flashing a few roms (usualy virtuous) i noticed i have alot less memory. can someone recommend a way for me to clear out some storage space? thanks
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Delete ROMs off the SD card to free up space....Or do you mean the internal storage of the actual MT4G[Max is apprx 1.1GB]. Use file manager to get rid of junk, or if you do mean the phone's storage then remove apps or use cache cleaner. If after flashing a ROM the phone says around 800-900MB then that's because of the ROM you're using.
Also, nandroid backups take up ALOT of space. Only keep 1 or 2.
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Also, nandroid backups take up ALOT of space. Only keep 1 or 2.
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Yeah, I just backed up Virtuous Unity, 1.1 gigs.......