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[Q] Point in Apps2SD?

So i've done a little reading and here's my question:
The only point in moving your apps to your sd card is if you're out of space on internal memory. However, with apps in the range of ~1MB each, exactly HOW many apps does one need to download in order to run out of space?
I'm kind of reluctant do move them to the sd card since they'll generally load slower, probably operate slower if they need to load resources off it during runtime.
Is it really that easy to run out of space and, if yes, exactly how much is the slowdown from the memory card?
Thanks

It fills up fast, trust me.

Let's say you have around 80 mb left with a clean installed rom.
games can be about 13-20 MB each
normal apps usaly around 500 kb to 4mb
after maybe 15 apps and 4 games your are filled

After downloading Angry Birds I have 1 mb left of space.

how do i move apps to the sd?

Mariusrapi said:
how do i move apps to the sd?
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you need to have a custom rom with app2sd enabled, like wildpuzzle or Openfire.
After you have partitioned the sd card, it will increase the internal memory with the partioned part. Kinda like trick the phone that you have more internal memory then you already have.

Is it possible to just install apps2sd on a rooted stock ROM? WildPuzzle is too unstable for me and CM6 isn't out yet.

Have you tried openfire, I have never had to battery pull, it has JIT and is the fastest available ROM.

gonna give it a go now. If not I'll make with with a stock ROM for now.

NAND DFT - Sense and free space issues

Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.

geekyhawkes said:
Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.
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Same problem with me I only have 35 mb free internal memory ,own using cotulla nand desire Rom
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try the desire hd version, it has a bit more space ..
the owner of a hd2 (us) with 1024mb have no problems with that ..

Hi
Did you try titanium backup to move apps from nand to SD, it should be better to give it a try...

Using nexushd2 I have 216 MB free space.
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Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!

frankinstine said:
Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!
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TMOUS HD2 Rocks

I just get free space only 99 mb on my hd2, i want to know why each device don't be got free space as same as ones.
My hd2 runs in Colluta's desire nand rom.
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This is not a problem with you guys, it's just with the 512 limit of our devices.
Be patient and someone /Cotulla/ will fix it so that we can install to SD card.
BTW
I just downloaded move2sd and it works just fine. Now my apps go to the sd and i've moved all possible apps to sd.
I am left with 82 mb which should be enough for txt and logs...

Im glad im not by myself with this. I guess the solution will come when the devs get chance to get ext4 up and running on our sd cards as data.img, that way the problem goes away. apps2sd/titanium etc are all fine, but if you have a lot of apps then you will always be in the situation i am of bouncing off the warning of low space.

The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.

pr0x2 said:
The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.
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Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.

Google Earth and Flash Player are killing me.
They still hold much space after moving to sd.
Looking forward to app2ext.

nokn956120 said:
Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.
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Sorry man, not tring to be ignorant, I do love my TMo HD2. Ido agree with you on the ext3. I have my N1 w/a2sd and its awesome, no need to worry about space.I had about 95+ apps at one time and still had 150mb free of internal. Im guessing once we get a recovery img. we can then get the ext3 and a2sd working as it should. I have clockworks recovery on my N1 and works awsome. You can Backup any part of your rom even your ext3. Also Amon_RA's recovery is good too cause it has PSfreedom implemented, for those looking at PSFreedom Modds

What we should do with low internal memory? step back to sd? :(

Hi
first off all I should thanks all developers of hd2 andriod who are the reason that we are always excited with our Hd2.
After Refreshing xda site for every 3 hours to see the nand release I finally managed to get the news...
After installing the nand version I was so excited speed was great battery life superb and extremely stable
so I have started migrating from my ram version to nand version
Soon I was installing my apps from market until I reached an error that I've never seen before "LOW MEMORY " I was shocked I checked the space and saw I only had 1 mb free space
I searched the forum and found out that some users has 100mb while some had 600mb free after installation, I thought it might be my and other mistakes which led to 100mb but after reading more I've found all 512mb rom HD2 will have 100mb free internal memory after installation
So if its gonna be like that I think I should step back to SD version only coz of internal memory,
I wanna know your suggestions.. or solution? Ive already tried moving some apps to sd but guys.... not all of them have the ability....

hossshad said:
Hi
first off all I should thanks all developers of hd2 andriod who are the reason that we are always excited with our Hd2.
After Refreshing xda site for every 3 hours to see the nand release I finally managed to get the news...
After installing the nand version I was so excited speed was great battery life superb and extremely stable
so I have started migrating from my ram version to nand version
Soon I was installing my apps from market until I reached an error that I've never seen before "LOW MEMORY " I was shocked I checked the space and saw I only had 1 mb free space
I searched the forum and found out that some users has 100mb while some had 600mb free after installation, I thought it might be my and other mistakes which led to 100mb but after reading more I've found all 512mb rom HD2 will have 100mb free internal memory after installation
So if its gonna be like that I think I should step back to SD version only coz of internal memory,
I wanna know your suggestions.. or solution? Ive already tried moving some apps to sd but guys.... not all of them have the ability....
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well hope the Devs will get EURO HD2 owners a ext4 partition on SD that will act as internal memory... i guess its being thought about.
in the meanwhile use apps like move2sd to install apps to SD...
oh i have LEO1024 no issues here

I just flashed the NEXUSHD2 and i have 216 mb of free space,that is more than enough for me.

i have like 700mb

I think that this thread is not for boasting about your Leo1024, but it rather raises an important issue. While ROMs from NAND are a big step ahead, running out of space is a serious problem, especially today, when apps can take about 20-30 mb (i.e. Opera Mobile 10, Firefox 4 with cache).
I see three possible solutions to this problem:
- using native froyo apps2fat, while being problematic, it's simple and available out of the box
- wait for developers to allow us to use data.img on our SD Card, like in good old SD Card builds
- or use apps2ext like all other Android users do (when it'll be possible).

Just down the App 2 SD app off market and move all the apps you downloaded to sd and that should free up your internal memory

mally2 said:
well hope the Devs will get EURO HD2 owners a ext4 partition on SD that will act as internal memory... i guess its being thought about.
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Has anyone done this before?

I am getting the same problem... I hope a solution for this comes up fast.... nbot able to install any games....

I am using MDJ Gingerbread NAND Rom, and the solution I found was to move apps to SD using Titanium Backup paid app. Worth the price, trust me.

berbecverde said:
I just flashed the NEXUSHD2 and i have 216 mb of free space,that is more than enough for me.
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216 mb of free space for me to, with the exact same ROM.

this has been an issue since back in the days of the G1, not enough internal memory, this is why a lot of the newer android devices come with a bigger internal memory, apps2sd will solve the problem, so you can install apps on the sd card instead of the internal memory. You need to add it before you start to install apps to keep the internal memory at max.

I went into the system folder and deleted stuff i didnt need like ringtones, alarms, notifications, wallpapers. Left me with some amount of space but yeah, the real solution are apps that move apps to sd.

You guys are in luck. Takaaki has posted a test build he made for himself that can store the data on the sd card. You can even use your old hd2one data.img if you have used it before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It's a test build and he won't be answering questions.

spyb0y said:
216 mb of free space for me to, with the exact same ROM.
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same as me....i love this rom alot

[Q] These is no storage left. wtf

Im using CM7 RC1 on wildfire, i have 800mb left on SD card, but now my programs cannot be moved to SD card, because it says no more storage left on SD card. And this problem is after i instaled CM7 RC1

And this is dev related..... how??
As for ur question, I have no idea.
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Just format your sd and try again?
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Maybe your partition is not big enough?

big enough. i say its 800mb free

Yes , You have 800 mb but on general partion.Check out how much space you have on ext partitions.
I check it in the easiest way without anyy software.I'm connectin WF to my TV and get in USB and there are few drivers to choose then check info about and here it is.
Or with some kind of software in PC

Internal 25mb free, External (SD) 837mb free.

I advice you to make a quite bigger Internal and then check out'em

vilks said:
Internal 25mb free, External (SD) 837mb free.
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Moving to SD does not move the whole app to SD many times. Internal memory is occupied too, maybe 25 mb is too less? What's the exact error msg that its giving?

Have the same problem.
As far as i know APP2SD doesnt use the ext partition (just the Darktremor Apps2SD does) - but the APP uses the Froyo/Gingerbread buildin function and just saves some amount of the Apps to the SD card.
Somehow it worked for me if i try it a 2nd time (or after restarting the device in begin - after it worked fine for me).
But sometimes if I install apps it also tells me - not enough space - and i have 37MB internal left - even the app is just about 500kb.... - anyway it also works if i just try agains ome seconds later.
Annoying - but perhaps also works for u

Formiak said:
I advice you to make a quite bigger Internal and then check out'em
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Could you also tell us how 2 make bigger internal !??! If I dont want to disasemble my device and replace a chip?
As far as i know u just can get bigger internal space by moving apps or systemparts to the SD card... and thats where he has problems.
(But yes many custom roms already do it a bit: dalvik cache,.. - but u need 2 reflash another rom.... not part of this discussin atm i think)

i didnt have any problems with 2.3 nightly 49# and other nightlys or even 2.2 roms. But with new 2.3 RC1 i have these problems. so im moving to other rom

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[Q] [HD2-nand]Low internal memory

Hi,
I recently installed some NAND android (i.e. miui 1.4.29) roms (magldr), they work perfectly. I also partitioned my sd card with 1GB ext3(also tried other values) and in my system info it says there is available a2sd+ memory. But on every rom and with every install I have a maximum of +-7.5MB internal memory space of which +-1.5MB is free to use. So if I install 1 app my memory is full and i can't read my sms messages etc.... Why do other users have 100MB+ free space? Is there a way to check where all that memory is being used? (overall?), At install I wiped my device fyi.
thanks in advance,
Jo

jovoud said:
Hi,
I recently installed some NAND android (i.e. miui 1.4.29) roms (magldr), they work perfectly. I also partitioned my sd card with 1GB ext3(also tried other values) and in my system info it says there is available a2sd+ memory. But on every rom and with every install I have a maximum of +-7.5MB internal memory space of which +-1.5MB is free to use. So if I install 1 app my memory is full and i can't read my sms messages etc.... Why do other users have 100MB+ free space? Is there a way to check where all that memory is being used? (overall?), At install I wiped my device fyi.
thanks in advance,
Jo
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hi,
Are you flashing the correct cwm recovery that the Dev recommends in the [OP]?
Flashed from my fingers to your face

I've got a worse problem, I'm trying several ROMs for my HTC HD2 but each and every ROM only gives me like 0.5 MB internal memory....I'm lost i don't any idea what to do , any suggestions for me?

Setting the correct partition size each rom?

pumamasterr said:
I've got a worse problem, I'm trying several ROMs for my HTC HD2 but each and every ROM only gives me like 0.5 MB internal memory....I'm lost i don't any idea what to do , any suggestions for me?
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can you tell us your device spec, magldr/clk/ partition size/flash.cfg etc
my guess is...you have EU HD2 and you flashed a 350> partition

did you install a radio that allows 576mb ram? I am not an expert but that is needed and there are several available. Also, post as many details about your phone and what you did so that the Developers have enough information to help you better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939682
this is an excellent guide I thought that it was stickied but I cant find it, just scroll until you find the guide. make sure you followed all the steps.
hope this helps.

stephenbrinson said:
did you install a radio that allows 576mb ram?
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If he hadn't, magldr wouldn't start, android wouldn't boot.

Use it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310309