Hi guys
I want to buy a new smartphone and I am thinking about samsung galaxy s i9000 because it's obviously very good phone and currently the price is very reasonable. But this phone has only 512 ram and I want for example at the same time to use web browser, skype, listen music, etc. I mean is all that ok for a phone or it will start lagging a lot? Maybe it's not worth buying it cause it's already 1 year old and phones with 2x more ram and dual core cpus comming, so maybe it's worth waiting for them to get cheaper? Or it's still very good investment for a price? (SGS2 costs like 1.7x more so too much for me)
Have a look at that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173923
I still would recommend it, especially because it's now about 300€ and there are only a few little bugs left, which i hope will be fixed with the next update (like browser-scrolling etc.). Also battery life is very good since JVO i think.
Today I was doing a side by side comparison on my 9000 / 2.3.4 with my cousins 9003 / 2.3.3
Edit SGS from 3 / 2.3.4 vs SGS2 from craphonewhorehouse / 2.3.3
the 9003 is physically bigger, and has a physically bigger screen, and it has a dual core cpu...... but......
speaking *personally* the 9003 is a little too big, in fact the 9000 is already pushing the boundaries on size for a "phone"
the bigger screen in nice, but I know someone who uses a 7" galaxy tab as a phone, for phone / mms / email the 9000 screen is as big as I want.
dual core? well if I played games I might need it, but the single core on my 9000 does everything *I* ask it to, including playing video seamlessly.
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sweet **** all in it so far, all personal preferences...
the REAL difference is the 9000 is mature, incredibly well known, with an incredible set of resources and knowledge.
the REAL difference is not being the latest and greatest any more, the 9000 is cheaper, significantly cheaper.
I was offered a straight swap today 9000 <> 9003, I turned it down.
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if I was offered a straight swap today 9000 <> 9003, I turned it down.
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Yes right, of course you would
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Thanks for opinions.
Well the main thing for me I think is RAM. Is SGS not slow when having several programs running (skype, web browser, music..)?
I only recently got an i9000 and found it really doesn't matter about its age, it performs incredibly well, and has the advantage of having a massive load of excellent custom roms to use.
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Besides the the missing dual core, I think i9000 is gold for it's value. Which I might add, is running current performance standard for all phones since dual core is considered high end atm.
Johnny55555555 said:
Today I was doing a side by side comparison on my 9000 / 2.3.4 with my cousins 9003 / 2.3.3
the 9003 is physically bigger, and has a physically bigger screen, and it has a dual core cpu...... but......
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I9003 don't have dual core cpu it's 1GHz Cortex A8 CPU, PowerVR SGX530 GPU, TI OMAP 3630 chipset
you can buy i9000 for now as it's still one of the fastest phones and next year you will be able to buy i9100 at less once galaxy s 3 comes
I'd go for a newer phone than the Galaxy S if it had a greater variety of mods/kernels. I don't think that's going to happen for a while =P
The Galaxy S II looks promising, though.
The SGS has a good balance between hardware specs and software / os requirements.
The SGS 2 doesn't have this balance. At this time, 99% of the users simply don't use that extra hardware capacity.
In my view, the decision to purchase an SGS2 vs an SGS really boils down to the screen and the camera. If you want the Full HD video recording, improved camera and better screen and you think the price premium warrants it - then go for SGS2.
But if you think the SGS is more than satisfactory in these areas, then SGS it is.
People talk about the improved hardware specs of the SGS2... but until that translates into real-life improvements "my SGS2 can do this...and your SGS can't" then we simply won't see people rushing out to buy them.
You can guy mine if you want....comes boxed with everything!
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Recently got one. I look at it as a mid range phone with lots of custom roms. For me, its a great phone to start off for Android due to its resources.
i've only gotten mine for about 2 months now, and it's worth it, came from a wildfire... and i must say the community here is heaps more different than the wildfire community (i enjoy it here more)... the wildfire community had some ppl that annoyed me so much and were so clueless about everything lol
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Yes right, of course you would
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you EDITED my post from "I was offered..." to "If I was offered...."
the fact that you have to make me a liar to make your point says it all.
I was offered a straight swap by my cousin, I turned it down.
Unless u got cash to burn or always wanted to have the latest gadget. If not, I would say SGS is still worth to buy.. With many custom rom.. I would say it's one of the stable android phone around.. Of cos, not the latest in terms of hardware (dual core)..
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You should definitively go for the SGS.
I got mine 2 months ago, and I'm sure I'm going to still like my phone in 2 or 3 years, if it makes it through
Get the sgs, then get the sgs 2 in 18 months when its cheap (if you can handle large size) sgs is great, android apps not really able to fully exploit dual core yet
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I don't really worry about dual core cpu, I worry more about rams. This phone does not have much of them and noone answered my question how laggy is phone when several programs running (skype, web browser, music player...)
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I don't really worry about dual core cpu, I worry more about rams. This phone does not have much of them and noone answered my question how laggy is phone when several programs running (skype, web browser, music player...)
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Very laggy
Get the iPhone!
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You should definitively go for the SGS.
I got mine 2 months ago, and I'm sure I'm going to still like my phone in 2 or 3 years, if it makes it through
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We will take care of that ;-)
I allways buy a phone every three years so will continu development and mods ;-)
That is from the launch date of the SGS so to speek...
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Two days ago operator made me an offer of any smartphone for free, I narrowed it down to the most expensive hehe: Iphone 4, Desire HD or a sgs and don't know which to buy. This is a once time deal I can't wait for dual cores and whatever else comes out next year I need to reach a decision this week.
What should I buy? I have seen and used all OSs . The only thing I like about the ios is the app store, I generally dislike Apple and Idrones.
I'm relatively tech savvy (in the non-douchy kinda way xD
Except some minor annoyances here and there I love android. Can any one give some advice? Thx and ho ho ho
iPhones kinda nice but not as much for the geek in you.
HD Desire ??
SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
Android app store is choke full of goodies and I've found cool stuff my bro can't get on his iphone4
Imo the SGS, the screen is just beautiful and the processor is a monster compared to the Desire HD and iPhone 4 is just not my cup of tea.
SGS will most likely be more optimised after Nexus S is release, I realy think it's already fast and powerfull, and it will only get better!
Camera is amazing and Night mode is franckly pretty amazing, you'd get more than what you can see!
HD Videos is pretty good also!
Sync is all with your GMail account, so pretty simple and straight forward. You can sync your outlook with GMail if needed.
And if you need to access the files on the device, the USB can be mounted so it's pretty fast to transfer things.
Only down I can see on the SGS is the "sometime" flawing GPS, not all the time but can be anoying sometimes :|
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SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
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Say whaat?
I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.
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I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.
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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator
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The internal SDCards are crapping out...
hmmm isnt that becouse of the ****ty samsung filesystem and/or bad kernel
and should i be concerned about only 339 ram?
Buy the iPhone 4, sell it for $600-$800 off contract, buy whatever phone you want. Personally I'd says Desire HD simply because Sense is much better than Touchwiz and it has the Sense.com features (free remote wipe, GPS tracking, text through phone through website, etc). However, the battery is kind of weak so I'd recommend a bigger one if you can find one.
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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator
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They ported it from Nexus One to Evo, and Desire HD is basically a variant of Evo
Damm I'm more confused now than when I started...
Iphone: don't really like how it feels in my hand, really small screen, absolutely no customization whatsoever.
good things: apps, no major bugs and better shades of blue lol.
Desire HD: seems to have the worst hardware out of the three (cpu and gpu) piece if crap battery, seems if it falls once is over, ****ty battery and sim cover and imo the camera that sticks out like the evo is really effing ugly
Good things: most ram out of the three, htcsense.com, biggest screen (preferences but I think 4" is perfect)
SGS: plagued by software bugs apparently, random data corruption, no flash, needs most tweaking out of the box
Good things: best screen cpu & gpu, the nexus s is almost the same phone which means better development porting the works(here's hoping) and best battery life
By comparison seems that the sgs wins overall categories
Its easy. If you want the best smartphone the its sgs.
Iphone is not as good many say.
I did have one and i did sell it.
Iphone has more good games. That's the only good with it.
The rest is much better with sgs.
HD phone is not better either.
It has more serious flaw then both sgs and iphone together.
Sgs is a powerhouse and it got the best screen of all phones.
Sure sgs can be laggy out of the box, but that is easy to fix.
So right now there is not a phone that's has anything to compete with.
The sgs will win it all the time.
**Using my own JPU kernel, z4mod, 339MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**
My father has an iphone3g and my uncle has the iphone 4 I jailbreaked it for him honestly I wasn't that impressed with the phone. The only thing I like about it is the apps mainly the games are much more refined than on android phones
Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?
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Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?
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It does use a 512MB chip, but only ~340MB of it is visible after you're booted up. Out of the other ~172MB, there's around 40MB that's unaccounted for (we don't know where its being used) and the rest of it is "reserved" (even when the functions it's reserved for are not in use) for stuff like video playback, 3G calling etc.
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I'd have to say i agree with Product F(RED)
Desire HD is the best phone on the list IMHO. But getting the ipoop and selling on will mean you can get the HD desire and still have some cash in your pocket
sgs is the best (imho!) it's a pain out of the box but that's why we love it so much, let's face it, most of us like tweaking and playing with our phones, it's half the fun. Flashing new roms, installing different lagfixes, uninstalling new roms, uninstalling new lagfixes, whoops I've broken it, nope, it's going again. The sgs is a geeks wet dream and in my experience it is very difficult to fully brick.
So if you want a phone that you are going to have to fiddle with, get the sgs. Jpu seems to have ironed out a lot of problems, I get perfect gps now, although it was pretty good before. I'm actually a little disapointed that jpu works so well, it kinda takes the fun out of it all
If this doesn't appeal to you then get the hd, it's a good phone, screen is not as good and it doesn't feel as fast as my tweaked sgs, but overall it's definitely a winner and you won't be disapointed
The iphone is also a good phone and not to be sniffed at, if you don't mind being spoon fed by apple.
i have to say SGS, because of the most powerful hardware, software is not important, because we can fix that easy , as surprise Samsung also tries there best, i think with JPU Firmware they show that they are willing todo everything, Hardware we can't fix, SGS has currently the fastest CPU + GPU specially the GPU!!!!! is amazing, why do you think Google went with Nexus S , because of Hardware, Speed, Quality, Availability.......
Nexus S and Android 2.3 Gingerbread was made to give game developers the best available Hardware and with Gingerbread many things which will make Game development easier and because of the CPU + GPU, which is almost the same as Iphone 4 has (SGS a little bit better), it will also make porting games from iphone to android pretty easy now.
About HTC Sense i agree it is a nice homescreen, but on the other hand it is a memory, cpu and battery monster! why do you think they have 768MB Memory and if we look at different homescreen replacements (ADW, Laucher Pro, Zeam,.......), then i really don't see the big advantage at all, but thats a taste decission
So for me i have to say i am very happy that i went with the SGS, i really can't understand users who say that the SGS is built cheap, i have the SGS now since the beginning, i don't use a screenprotector, the plastic is thin but it still looks like new also after falling on the floor (shame on me), compared to my previous HTC Units which where loosing color on there great metal casing and not by falling on the floor but because i used a leather case, the signal was often a issue for me (metal), dust was behind the screen after a short time,........
I have to say that the Samsung Hardware is such an improvement compared to HTC that i won't anytime soon look back to any HTC unit even if it would have a killler hardware.
But that are just my 2 cents on it
Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.
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Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.
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Care to elaborate on this? The iphone does have a gorgeous screen, but to call the sgs screen horrible is a bit like saying that Angelina Jolie is a dog. Sure there are better looking girls out there than her, but would you kick her out of bed? Most definitely not, unless you bat for the other team of coursee, in such a case swap angelina for brad or whom ever floats your boat.
I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
lots of!
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lots of!
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Of course!
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I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
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Galaxian kernel?
Dragooon123 said:
I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
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Arre bhai, why'd you get the SGS? An android dual core phone would be a better alternative.
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I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
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i am guessing you have the xda app? a good tip for anyone with an android phone ....
It's time to buy a galaxy s 2 or any other dual core phone
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Galaxian kernel?
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better semaphore. it is as fast as galaxian but with contribution for the community
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Because the galaxy s2 was a lot more than my budget, I couldnt afford it.
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Because the galaxy s2 was a lot more than my budget, I couldnt afford it.
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dont worry, you bought just the right phone root it, flash a recent 2.3.4 firmware, customize it and have the best value for money phone on the market today there are no kind of apps which really need a faster phone, dual core phones have a really small share of the user base, it will probably take at least 2 more years until they offer any benefit.
I'll give You one tip... be aware of flashing. Since I've bought mine i'm flashing few times a week I don't remember if some rom lasted for a whole week. Will see... Now I'm on galnet's miui and maybe this will be the first one
I had the desire for over 6 months and flashed it on day 1, so I'm no stranger to it and the damn addictiob. So far I am content with my curent setup.
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My recommendations: Darky ROM 10.1 or Ryyu's EDB v1.3 ROM; Semaphore ,TalonDEV or DarkCore kernels!
What would be the most snazzy/beautiful ROM/widget combo out there?
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dont worry, you bought just the right phone root it, flash a recent 2.3.4 firmware, customize it and have the best value for money phone on the market today there are no kind of apps which really need a faster phone, dual core phones have a really small share of the user base, it will probably take at least 2 more years until they offer any benefit.
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Have to disagree with you there. It is not just in the benchmarks that the dual core makes a difference.
You are sadly mistaken, if you think that to be the case.. Just read up a bit, and you'll understand.
Remember when Intel C2D (Conroe) came? There were hardly any application making use of two cores, but still there was a significant advantage.. ~50-60% over similarly clocked single core processors. (not considering the architecture, which significantly increased the IPC). [ One of the reasons, why increasing the core-clock to around 1.44 GHZ, would be enough to somewhat offset the advantage of a dual core 1Ghz Tegra 2 process. But, if you think of it that way, even Tegra 2 can be clocked higher..]
That is because , even though a single application couldn't make use of two cores, a single application could make full use of the single core. (all background processes could run on single core). Thus ,effectively increasing the multitasking capability..(with more RAM like SGS2, it makes a huge difference!!).
And probably the most VFM Android phone in the higher end market is the Nexus S (despite its obvious shortcomings, like lack of HD video recording), imo..
i'd have to agree with Hrithan2020 that any dual core phone is definitely going to be significantly faster and responsive than any single core but i see dbraakers point too... since dual core phones are still so new, they really do have a small user base meaning that it will take some time for majority of the software developers to make programs and upgrades that utililize the dual cores full potential. i'm currently in the same situation, SGS vs LG O2x. O2x is only $25 more but SGS has a better dev community and is a lot more stable. i'm going to wait it out a bit to see if o2x community picks up. i wish i could go for the sgs2 (who wouldnt?) but i cant justify spending an extra $200-$300 for it when all that i'm mostly going to do is browse the web and send text messages. SGS would suffice but at $25 more, why not get the O2x?
Great analogy on the Intel C2D processors... but i dont think Dragooon made a bad choice cause the SGS is still a great, solid phone that will can hold its own over the next 2 years. budget is a factor for many of us so just because the latest intel i7-990x ($1100) is available, doesnt mean the i7-960 ($300) isnt still a good option that can satisfy the users needs. just my .02 cents =)
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i'd have to agree with Hrithan2020 that any dual core phone is definitely going to be significantly faster and responsive than any single core but i see dbraakers point too... since dual core phones are still so new, they really do have a small user base meaning that it will take some time for majority of the software developers to make programs and upgrades that utililize the dual cores full potential. i'm currently in the same situation, SGS vs LG O2x. O2x is only $25 more but SGS has a better dev community and is a lot more stable. i'm going to wait it out a bit to see if o2x community picks up. i wish i could go for the sgs2 (who wouldnt?) but i cant justify spending an extra $200-$300 for it when all that i'm mostly going to do is browse the web and send text messages. SGS would suffice but at $25 more, why not get the O2x?
Great analogy on the Intel C2D processors... but i dont think Dragooon made a bad choice cause the SGS is still a great, solid phone that will can hold its own over the next 2 years. budget is
a factor for many of us so just because the latest intel i7-990x ($1100) is available, doesnt mean the i7-960 ($300) isnt still a good option that can satisfy the users needs. just my .02 cents =)
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True. But, the difference between an SGS and SGS 2 , is not that high, is it? How much is it? 200$?. TBH, I have been itching to dump my SGS and buy SGS 2,but the form factor (more than the price) , helps to prevent my wallets from being empty ..
[ Two things, I am not satisfied about my SGS, GPS and low RAM, despite trying all fixes, would be significantly improved with SGS 2]
Also, particularly in the case of phones, the firmware makes a huge difference. (as can be noticed by the huge performance difference between the older eclair firmware vs the 2.2.1 froyo ones, for SGS). As it stands, O2X (stock) feels almost the same as SGS, in terms of responsiveness.. But, I am sure, some nice custom ROM's would help significantly widen the lead?
And, I feel that SGS's achilles heal is the low RAM, which the O2X also unfortunately shares. (330/340 vs 372 user available RAM).. You are right, in the sense, that there wouldn't be applications which would make use of the two cores fully; but better thread management by OS, could significantly help. [ ie. without applications being aware of the two/four cores, the OS would automatically spread the jobs over multiple cores.... which could probably be only in Android 4.0 or ICS] .. So, the days of single core are still not gone, but it won't be long before single core phones are pushed into the mid-end of the market..
(Nowadays,it is mostly near high end)..
Yes I know it isnt current but I am 16 year old student, so that 250$ is a big deal for me.
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Yes I know it isnt current but I am 16 year old student, so that 250$ is a big deal for me.
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Wow!! For 250$, it is a real VFM.. You stay in India only , right? How did you manage to get it for so cheap?
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Wow!! For 250$, it is a real VFM.. You stay in India only , right? How did you manage to get it for so cheap?
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No, what I meant was that the extra 250$ it would've taken for me to get a SGSII is a big deal for me. I got my SGS for a 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$
I never used smartphone and now decided to buy one. Obviously SGS2 is better phone but it costs like 1.7x times more than SGS1. What you guys think it's worth overpaying that much for newer version of galaxy or SGS1 is still really good phone?
SGS1 Excellent phone but this is a much better phone. Buy what you need .
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Right now, yeah, you could get by pretty well with a galaxy s1. The question is, how well will it work in a year and a half? The 3 real arguments for the S2 over the S1 right now are:
1) It's a shiny new toy and I want it really bad.
2) It's somewhat more future-proof. This phone won't be the best in a year and a half, but it will still be pretty good.
3) I'm a huge power-user, and I fall into the 1% of phone users who push the hardware to the limits, and so yes, I need this phone.
Honestly, for me it was a combination of 1 and 2
I have both, and are both very good phones, but out of the two the SGS2 wins hands down, just by the slickness of it, no jerkiness when scrolling or playing HD games , and the extra size in display really does make a difference too !
Both are great phones. If you are planning to keep the phone for a while then I'd recommend the SG2 as dual core is not really being maximised at the moment but should do in the future but then hey we may get quad core phones. If audio is important to you then get the SG1 with the voodoo sound its one of the best mobile devices for audio playback the SG2 has a different sound card which is inferior.
You'll be happy with either, SG1 still has a good following, also check out the forthcoming galaxy plus.
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Right now, yeah, you could get by pretty well with a galaxy s1. The question is, how well will it work in a year and a half? The 3 real arguments for the S2 over the S1 right now are:
1) It's a shiny new toy and I want it really bad.
2) It's somewhat more future-proof. This phone won't be the best in a year and a half, but it will still be pretty good.
3) I'm a huge power-user, and I fall into the 1% of phone users who push the hardware to the limits, and so yes, I need this phone.
Honestly, for me it was a combination of 1 and 2
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I would say main reason for me would be 2). I want a device which going to be good in the following 2-3 years. But on the other hand SGS1 will be good as well I don't care about playing games.
What really makes me want buying SGS2 vs. SGS1 is the less lag and more ram - I care most about those things. People say SGS2 is much faster and less laggy.
Today I saw it and it's really huge, maybe even too huge
You can easily flash gingerbread 2.3.4 on the s1. No lag whatsover and a faster filesystem ext4. I have a 10 year old pc of similar hardware and dont see why the s1 is not goo enough for a few years. I used to have one before I lost it
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Both are great phones, but at this time the SGS2 is the better option.
Sgs2 has hspa+. And there are spots in my country where i get this. The real usefullness of this phone will happen by next year where there will be lots of accesories. I plan to keep this for 3 years.
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lol offcourse sgs2 no doubt on it !!!
I feel it's going to be a difficult decision
I have both. I wouldn't have either if Samsung didn't fix my GS1 for free, but it's clear i couldn't go back to it, it's either GS2 or nothing. The speed difference is massive and that's why my wife has the 1 and i have 2.
I came from the SGS and got the SGS II now. For me the kicker was the lag and overall smoothness. SGS II has zero lag on scrolling, browsing, and on opening apps. And it doesn't matter how many apps you have open. There is a huge huge difference in lag and smoothness between the two.
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I have a sgs1 and I did some comparison tests with my neighbour's sgs2
The sgs1 got only 2 advantages:
The sound is superior even without voodoo tweaks...actually the sgs1 got the best sound of all devices I tested including some standalone MP3 players
The second advantage is the price that is going down exactly because of the sgs2
For all other features the sgs2 is better
I think I will wait for the next sgs (3?) device, hoping that it will have the wolson sound chipset again or better, since this is one of the main features for me (the sound)
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Edit: and with sgs3 I mean Hercules ??
Thx for advices!
Now after reading about amoled screens I started to worry about possible screen burn in after some time. I buy phone for 3+ years I would be very dissapointed if the screen won't last that long..
You gotta get your information sources straight man...
It make no sense what you are talking about...
I recently got the SG2 (replacement for a broken htc desire) and the phone feels so much better. My dad has the sg1 and i'd rather have the sg2. I reckon if you bought the sg1 and a mate of yours showed you his nice new sg2 you would be jealous.
I was jealous...till I went comparing the sound quality....
Now I will wait on the Samsung hercules, hoping it is going to have the Wolfson chipset back as the sgs1 has:
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-hercules-coming-to-t-mobile-in-august-14441/
So the price difference where I live is exactly 2x more for SGS2 than for SGS1. Do you think it's worth paying two times more?
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So the price difference where I live is exactly 2x more for SGS2 than for SGS1. Do you think it's worth paying two times more?
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Re-read my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15870440&postcount=14
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Dont do it its so not worth it yet number one android cant support it Tech is moving to fast quad cores are soon to come Dual cores are not like how single core 1Ghz cpus where when they first came out they were long term your gonna buy that dual core then quad is gonna come out ur gonna oh shiz but us vibrant owners have single core then dual came out we were like cool but ok our phones perform close to them upgrading to galaxy S2 not that big of a jump soon when 2.4 comes out it will breath new life into our phones so my point is let time go by an wait to see what becomes standard so you can be on solid ground then upgrade just wait......sick of these fourms which one to get its a trap to get a new phone just as yet
maybe true!! im still buying my hercules...........
movieaddict said:
maybe true!! im still buying my hercules...........
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I use to think like that until i looked at the specs its not worth upgrade the only dual core phone i would say get is Nexus if exynos rumors are true an the support will be excellent as always with NXS phones Snapdragons suck that is why i stay away from Htc
with three great developers getting it im not worried! ecotox, dan brutal and allgamer
If I can get an epic touch 1800 mah battery (assuming it will fit vibrant) I am gonna hold on this phone for one more year. The fact is if you are not into gaming on your phone or play 1080p to your HDTV, vibrant does pretty much everything so well with a smooth voodoo enabled froyo ROM. It very well holds upto any dual core phone in day to day functionalities as a smart phone. I am even afraid going to another phone will be a downgrade in terms of screen quality and audio quality as a music player (voodoo sound + power amp + 16 GB storage)
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with three great developers getting it im not worried! ecotox, dan brutal and allgamer
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But devs can only do so much if the hardware flat out sucks that cpu is like the vibrant at 1.9 Ghz its not worth it until a game changer comes out once quad comes out it will become standard then ill make switch but its not worth it yet all who switch are being fooled exept for evo3D owners because of 1Gb ram an S2 owners because of just about everyhing
Jasonhunterx said:
Dont do it its so not worth it yet number one android cant support it Tech is moving to fast quad cores are soon to come Dual cores are not like how single core 1Ghz cpus where when they first came out they were long term your gonna buy that dual core then quad is gonna come out ur gonna oh shiz but us vibrant owners have single core then dual came out we were like cool but ok our phones perform close to them upgrading to galaxy S2 not that big of a jump soon when 2.4 comes out it will breath new life into our phones so my point is let time go by an wait to see what becomes standard so you can be on solid ground then upgrade just wait......sick of these fourms which one to get its a trap to get a new phone just as yet
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Hercules:
1. Has a Super AMOLED+ Display, which is superior to the 1st gen SAMOLED displays (No Pen-Tile, Bettery Battery Life, etc.)
2. Dual Core Processor which can save power, and generally offers better performance - just one of it's cores is faster than ours and even back when teh Vibrant/G2 was released the Scorpion CPU was faster than the Hummingbird. The Hummingbird just had a much better GPU integrated into it.
3. HSPA+ radio
4. Double the RAM of the Vibrant, which is actually more than double when you factor in the RAM dedicated to the GPU. So more like ~110% More System/App-accessible RAM (since the GPU RAM dedicated didn't change AFAICT).
5. 10% bigger battery
6. Better Camera/Camcorder, with LED Flash
7. 2 MegaPixel Front-Facing Camera
8. Wi-Fi Direct, USB On the Go (Not Sure if in US Variants)
9. Actually a factorable level of support from the carriers and OEMs at least for another year+, especially those who stick very close to the international specs (Hercules dubious here)
It's not just about the CPU. That's actually not the first thing to bottleneck in these phones, unless you're doing something specifically to tax it heavily. GPU, RAM, and I/O for example will all bottleneck before the CPU in real-world use.
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Jasonhunterx said:
But devs can only do so much if the hardware flat out sucks that cpu is like the vibrant at 1.9 Ghz its not worth it until a game changer comes out once quad comes out it will become standard then ill make switch but its not worth it yet all who switch are being fooled exept for evo3D owners because of 1Gb ram an S2 owners because of just about everyhing
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Even when Quad Core phones come out, there will be a better one 4 months later. It's the nature of the beast.
And people said the same about Dual Core processors. They'll say the same thing about 20 core processors in 5 years or whatever time it takes for them to come out, as well...
has anyone here actually USED Hercules?
No? EXACTLY.
The specs make it sound like a amazing phone.
The Vibrant sounded amazing too! It is amazing, but it did have flaws, and i'm sure other phones will follow. They may not be the SAME flaw, but they will come.
N8ter, you get my thanks just for being able to read that f'ing gibberish. That is all.
Most of improvements are minor the only thing that would make me wanna switch is the ram an flash an maybe gps only two things that make me mad about phone but i wouldnt say its stupid to upgrade but not best choice an i used sensation which i think is same cpu as herc an it was a little slow i know it has sense which is ram hog but it had 300+
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jamesd86 said:
N8ter, you get my thanks just for being able to read that f'ing gibberish. That is all.
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That is very rude an not needed but thats your opinion
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xriderx66 said:
has anyone here actually USED Hercules?
No? EXACTLY.
The specs make it sound like a amazing phone.
The Vibrant sounded amazing too! It is amazing, but it did have flaws, and i'm sure other phones will follow. They may not be the SAME flaw, but they will come.
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But cpu has been used in other phones an all tech has flaws
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If I can get an epic touch 1800 mah battery (assuming it will fit vibrant) I am gonna hold on this phone for one more year. The fact is if you are not into gaming on your phone or play 1080p to your HDTV, vibrant does pretty much everything so well with a smooth voodoo enabled froyo ROM. It very well holds upto any dual core phone in day to day functionalities as a smart phone. I am even afraid going to another phone will be a downgrade in terms of screen quality and audio quality as a music player (voodoo sound + power amp + 16 GB storage)
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Sorry to burst your bubble but the epic touch (nor the SGS2's) battery will fit in the vibrant (battery is to big).
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That is very rude an not needed but thats your opinion
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Obviously it wasn't needed as much as you need to learn grammar.
Every 6 month something better comes around, i had my vibrant for 15 months. Its time for me to upgrade.
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N8ter, you get my thanks just for being able to read that f'ing gibberish. That is all.
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Because your a grammar nazi, correct?
Dude GTFO.
Just because he forgot a few , . ' 's doesn't mean he has bad grammar at all.
I've seen people who can't spell things like TABLE, and their well above their age to be able to spell TABLE.
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Every 6 month something better comes around, i had my vibrant for 15 months. Its time for me to upgrade.
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More like 3 lol but i mean like people upgrade for minor things i like innovation
I've skipped the dual core laptops, now I have quad core...so I'll probably do the same with my phone, unless it got bricked before that... and I still love it.
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THread closed before this turns into a flame fest.
Yes , all the hypes about the new dual core phones, the tabs made me thought for the past month Its time to move alone.
IT has been last jan i have the galaxy s, I went through some readouts about samsung tab 1st.
It seemed the only handy size of the tab is the single core 7 inch, which is same as galaxy s, same price when i got the galaxy as new. so its a no go. I checked out the cheaper new one of tab 6200 , no go, I chked the 10 inche tab...its too big lol
Galaxy S 2 ? its twice the price what its delivering, So no samsung for me for now.
Ericsson? I chked RAY, ARC NEO ETc, donno what! lol all no goes.
HTC? Never used one , and dont feel like.
So i decided to stick to galaxy S cause none of the new phones are worth compared to upgrades and prices and the new MIUI ICS is kinda rocking with ma phone.
Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks
I'm with you dude, can't see the point in getting a sgs2 for a little more speed, I want my next phone to offer something different for the price, may be the sgs3 or something else. The sgs1 does everything I need and does it well, plus, smaller than sgs2 and better sound with voodoo. Now got great battery with 2540 mah battery and semaphore with smartassv2, loving it. Also remember that you learn more as you play, tune, test, flash. Many people using sgs2 just leave
It running in default mode
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I'm with you dude, can't see the point in getting a sgs2 for a little more speed, I want my next phone to offer something different for the price, may be the sgs3 or something else. The sgs1 does everything I need and does it well, plus, smaller than sgs2 and better sound with voodoo. Now got great battery with 2540 mah battery and semaphore with smartassv2, loving it. Also remember that you learn more as you play, tune, test, flash. Many people using sgs2 just leave
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No doubt the SGS is still a powerful phone and will last many people at least another year.
BTW I also upgraded my SGS battery. I got the 1650Mah Samsung Armani battery which is the same physical size as the OG SGS stock, but gives me the extra juice I need to use my phone with even more moderate daily usage...
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I love my SGS for every other reason except its RAM. This is bcz mostly i like playing games and due to low memory games stuck like hell. If it just had 768MB of ram, I would have never thought of upgrading. Anyway, still i have this machine and i am gonna keep it.
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I love my SGS for every other reason except its RAM. This is bcz mostly i like playing games and due to low memory games stuck like hell. If it just had 768MB of ram, I would have never thought of upgrading. Anyway, still i have this machine and i am gonna keep it.
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Low ram is compelling me to upgrade to SGS 2 or HTC Sensation XE !
A good decision, dude.
I will also stay with my Galaxy S, got it one year ago and still luv this phone more than anything. Ok, sgs2 has a more powerful cpu and gpu, but I actually dont play to much with my phone, only some small games like doodle jump, angry birds or Fruit Ninja THD
It has such a powerful gpu, that even the galaxy nexus uses it, ok, its version is clocked at 384mhz or so, but doesnt matter, it is one of the most powerful gpu solutions in the single-core world (is also used at 300mhz on the lg optimus 3d)
But in my opinion its the fault of gameloft and all the other developers, that the gaming performance is so f*ckin bad on our sgs.
On the iPhone 4 and iPad e.g. Asphalt 6 runs as fluid as hell, also fast and furious does. And both devices have a higher resolution, but a weaker gpu (PowerVR SGX535)
If the developers would code for the plattform instead of porting the whole stuff down from iOS, then all the hd-versions from iPad would run fluid on sgs and other devices. So thats the main reason, why we need a much more powerful hardware with android, to gain the same gaming expirience like on iOS-Devices.
B2T: Keep the phone as long as you can. It is solid made, a really scratch-resisent screen, awesome and it has imo the best size, I think that 4,3inch is just to big for a phone
BTW:
Why do you think all the american carreers release almost every second month a new phone based on the galaxy s. Sometimes with a 4,5inch screen like the infuse or with a keyboard like the sprints epic 4g and some other phones I dont remeber atm
So, have fun, dude
I stay with my I9000 too, it's still the best mix of cpu, gpu and durability for me. Regarding RAM I use the great Thunderbolt Tweaks and Semaphore kernel, which results in a very fast and stable SGS.
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@angry_machine, Your decision is absolutely correct. I was also thinking to upgrade to SGSII, but after seeing it in a mobile market i changed my mind. NOthing much different. I bought my SGS last year in Oct, and it's the best phone I ever had. And I'm having no issues with it. Technology will never stop, so we should not change to every next model. Only change it when you really need. I Will stick to it until a change is must.
Voted 5-star because I feel the same.
I'm on the same boat, with all these powerhouse phones coming out I was really thinking about just buying a new phone outwidth my contract. My contract ends in August and I just think to myself, what kind of phones will be on the market by then? Tbh it's worth the wait.
do you hear about samsung galaxy note?