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Two days ago operator made me an offer of any smartphone for free, I narrowed it down to the most expensive hehe: Iphone 4, Desire HD or a sgs and don't know which to buy. This is a once time deal I can't wait for dual cores and whatever else comes out next year I need to reach a decision this week.
What should I buy? I have seen and used all OSs . The only thing I like about the ios is the app store, I generally dislike Apple and Idrones.
I'm relatively tech savvy (in the non-douchy kinda way xD
Except some minor annoyances here and there I love android. Can any one give some advice? Thx and ho ho ho

iPhones kinda nice but not as much for the geek in you.
HD Desire ??
SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
Android app store is choke full of goodies and I've found cool stuff my bro can't get on his iphone4

Imo the SGS, the screen is just beautiful and the processor is a monster compared to the Desire HD and iPhone 4 is just not my cup of tea.

SGS will most likely be more optimised after Nexus S is release, I realy think it's already fast and powerfull, and it will only get better!
Camera is amazing and Night mode is franckly pretty amazing, you'd get more than what you can see!
HD Videos is pretty good also!
Sync is all with your GMail account, so pretty simple and straight forward. You can sync your outlook with GMail if needed.
And if you need to access the files on the device, the USB can be mounted so it's pretty fast to transfer things.
Only down I can see on the SGS is the "sometime" flawing GPS, not all the time but can be anoying sometimes :|

Videonut said:
SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
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Say whaat?

I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.

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I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.
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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator

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The internal SDCards are crapping out...

hmmm isnt that becouse of the ****ty samsung filesystem and/or bad kernel
and should i be concerned about only 339 ram?

Buy the iPhone 4, sell it for $600-$800 off contract, buy whatever phone you want. Personally I'd says Desire HD simply because Sense is much better than Touchwiz and it has the Sense.com features (free remote wipe, GPS tracking, text through phone through website, etc). However, the battery is kind of weak so I'd recommend a bigger one if you can find one.

calexus1182 said:
but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator
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They ported it from Nexus One to Evo, and Desire HD is basically a variant of Evo

Damm I'm more confused now than when I started...
Iphone: don't really like how it feels in my hand, really small screen, absolutely no customization whatsoever.
good things: apps, no major bugs and better shades of blue lol.
Desire HD: seems to have the worst hardware out of the three (cpu and gpu) piece if crap battery, seems if it falls once is over, ****ty battery and sim cover and imo the camera that sticks out like the evo is really effing ugly
Good things: most ram out of the three, htcsense.com, biggest screen (preferences but I think 4" is perfect)
SGS: plagued by software bugs apparently, random data corruption, no flash, needs most tweaking out of the box
Good things: best screen cpu & gpu, the nexus s is almost the same phone which means better development porting the works(here's hoping) and best battery life
By comparison seems that the sgs wins overall categories

Its easy. If you want the best smartphone the its sgs.
Iphone is not as good many say.
I did have one and i did sell it.
Iphone has more good games. That's the only good with it.
The rest is much better with sgs.
HD phone is not better either.
It has more serious flaw then both sgs and iphone together.
Sgs is a powerhouse and it got the best screen of all phones.
Sure sgs can be laggy out of the box, but that is easy to fix.
So right now there is not a phone that's has anything to compete with.
The sgs will win it all the time.
**Using my own JPU kernel, z4mod, 339MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**

My father has an iphone3g and my uncle has the iphone 4 I jailbreaked it for him honestly I wasn't that impressed with the phone. The only thing I like about it is the apps mainly the games are much more refined than on android phones
Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?

calexus said:
Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?
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It does use a 512MB chip, but only ~340MB of it is visible after you're booted up. Out of the other ~172MB, there's around 40MB that's unaccounted for (we don't know where its being used) and the rest of it is "reserved" (even when the functions it's reserved for are not in use) for stuff like video playback, 3G calling etc.
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I'd have to say i agree with Product F(RED)
Desire HD is the best phone on the list IMHO. But getting the ipoop and selling on will mean you can get the HD desire and still have some cash in your pocket

sgs is the best (imho!) it's a pain out of the box but that's why we love it so much, let's face it, most of us like tweaking and playing with our phones, it's half the fun. Flashing new roms, installing different lagfixes, uninstalling new roms, uninstalling new lagfixes, whoops I've broken it, nope, it's going again. The sgs is a geeks wet dream and in my experience it is very difficult to fully brick.
So if you want a phone that you are going to have to fiddle with, get the sgs. Jpu seems to have ironed out a lot of problems, I get perfect gps now, although it was pretty good before. I'm actually a little disapointed that jpu works so well, it kinda takes the fun out of it all
If this doesn't appeal to you then get the hd, it's a good phone, screen is not as good and it doesn't feel as fast as my tweaked sgs, but overall it's definitely a winner and you won't be disapointed
The iphone is also a good phone and not to be sniffed at, if you don't mind being spoon fed by apple.

i have to say SGS, because of the most powerful hardware, software is not important, because we can fix that easy , as surprise Samsung also tries there best, i think with JPU Firmware they show that they are willing todo everything, Hardware we can't fix, SGS has currently the fastest CPU + GPU specially the GPU!!!!! is amazing, why do you think Google went with Nexus S , because of Hardware, Speed, Quality, Availability.......
Nexus S and Android 2.3 Gingerbread was made to give game developers the best available Hardware and with Gingerbread many things which will make Game development easier and because of the CPU + GPU, which is almost the same as Iphone 4 has (SGS a little bit better), it will also make porting games from iphone to android pretty easy now.
About HTC Sense i agree it is a nice homescreen, but on the other hand it is a memory, cpu and battery monster! why do you think they have 768MB Memory and if we look at different homescreen replacements (ADW, Laucher Pro, Zeam,.......), then i really don't see the big advantage at all, but thats a taste decission
So for me i have to say i am very happy that i went with the SGS, i really can't understand users who say that the SGS is built cheap, i have the SGS now since the beginning, i don't use a screenprotector, the plastic is thin but it still looks like new also after falling on the floor (shame on me), compared to my previous HTC Units which where loosing color on there great metal casing and not by falling on the floor but because i used a leather case, the signal was often a issue for me (metal), dust was behind the screen after a short time,........
I have to say that the Samsung Hardware is such an improvement compared to HTC that i won't anytime soon look back to any HTC unit even if it would have a killler hardware.
But that are just my 2 cents on it

Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.

Toss3 said:
Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.
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Care to elaborate on this? The iphone does have a gorgeous screen, but to call the sgs screen horrible is a bit like saying that Angelina Jolie is a dog. Sure there are better looking girls out there than her, but would you kick her out of bed? Most definitely not, unless you bat for the other team of coursee, in such a case swap angelina for brad or whom ever floats your boat.

Got myself a new Galaxy S!

I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?

lots of!

frydroid said:
lots of!
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Of course!
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Dragooon123 said:
I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
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Galaxian kernel?

Dragooon123 said:
I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
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Arre bhai, why'd you get the SGS? An android dual core phone would be a better alternative.

Dragooon123 said:
I'm in India and got a new Galaxy S in exchange of my 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$, so far I'm loving it. I like the bigger and crisper screen. I've flashed F1 Galaxy S2 V6 and it's been quite good, any tips?
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i am guessing you have the xda app? a good tip for anyone with an android phone ....

It's time to buy a galaxy s 2 or any other dual core phone

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better semaphore. it is as fast as galaxian but with contribution for the community
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Because the galaxy s2 was a lot more than my budget, I couldnt afford it.
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Dragooon123 said:
Because the galaxy s2 was a lot more than my budget, I couldnt afford it.
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dont worry, you bought just the right phone root it, flash a recent 2.3.4 firmware, customize it and have the best value for money phone on the market today there are no kind of apps which really need a faster phone, dual core phones have a really small share of the user base, it will probably take at least 2 more years until they offer any benefit.

I'll give You one tip... be aware of flashing. Since I've bought mine i'm flashing few times a week I don't remember if some rom lasted for a whole week. Will see... Now I'm on galnet's miui and maybe this will be the first one

I had the desire for over 6 months and flashed it on day 1, so I'm no stranger to it and the damn addictiob. So far I am content with my curent setup.
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My recommendations: Darky ROM 10.1 or Ryyu's EDB v1.3 ROM; Semaphore ,TalonDEV or DarkCore kernels!

What would be the most snazzy/beautiful ROM/widget combo out there?

dbraaker said:
dont worry, you bought just the right phone root it, flash a recent 2.3.4 firmware, customize it and have the best value for money phone on the market today there are no kind of apps which really need a faster phone, dual core phones have a really small share of the user base, it will probably take at least 2 more years until they offer any benefit.
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Have to disagree with you there. It is not just in the benchmarks that the dual core makes a difference.
You are sadly mistaken, if you think that to be the case.. Just read up a bit, and you'll understand.
Remember when Intel C2D (Conroe) came? There were hardly any application making use of two cores, but still there was a significant advantage.. ~50-60% over similarly clocked single core processors. (not considering the architecture, which significantly increased the IPC). [ One of the reasons, why increasing the core-clock to around 1.44 GHZ, would be enough to somewhat offset the advantage of a dual core 1Ghz Tegra 2 process. But, if you think of it that way, even Tegra 2 can be clocked higher..]
That is because , even though a single application couldn't make use of two cores, a single application could make full use of the single core. (all background processes could run on single core). Thus ,effectively increasing the multitasking capability..(with more RAM like SGS2, it makes a huge difference!!).
And probably the most VFM Android phone in the higher end market is the Nexus S (despite its obvious shortcomings, like lack of HD video recording), imo..

i'd have to agree with Hrithan2020 that any dual core phone is definitely going to be significantly faster and responsive than any single core but i see dbraakers point too... since dual core phones are still so new, they really do have a small user base meaning that it will take some time for majority of the software developers to make programs and upgrades that utililize the dual cores full potential. i'm currently in the same situation, SGS vs LG O2x. O2x is only $25 more but SGS has a better dev community and is a lot more stable. i'm going to wait it out a bit to see if o2x community picks up. i wish i could go for the sgs2 (who wouldnt?) but i cant justify spending an extra $200-$300 for it when all that i'm mostly going to do is browse the web and send text messages. SGS would suffice but at $25 more, why not get the O2x?
Great analogy on the Intel C2D processors... but i dont think Dragooon made a bad choice cause the SGS is still a great, solid phone that will can hold its own over the next 2 years. budget is a factor for many of us so just because the latest intel i7-990x ($1100) is available, doesnt mean the i7-960 ($300) isnt still a good option that can satisfy the users needs. just my .02 cents =)

shr0omz said:
i'd have to agree with Hrithan2020 that any dual core phone is definitely going to be significantly faster and responsive than any single core but i see dbraakers point too... since dual core phones are still so new, they really do have a small user base meaning that it will take some time for majority of the software developers to make programs and upgrades that utililize the dual cores full potential. i'm currently in the same situation, SGS vs LG O2x. O2x is only $25 more but SGS has a better dev community and is a lot more stable. i'm going to wait it out a bit to see if o2x community picks up. i wish i could go for the sgs2 (who wouldnt?) but i cant justify spending an extra $200-$300 for it when all that i'm mostly going to do is browse the web and send text messages. SGS would suffice but at $25 more, why not get the O2x?
Great analogy on the Intel C2D processors... but i dont think Dragooon made a bad choice cause the SGS is still a great, solid phone that will can hold its own over the next 2 years. budget is
a factor for many of us so just because the latest intel i7-990x ($1100) is available, doesnt mean the i7-960 ($300) isnt still a good option that can satisfy the users needs. just my .02 cents =)
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True. But, the difference between an SGS and SGS 2 , is not that high, is it? How much is it? 200$?. TBH, I have been itching to dump my SGS and buy SGS 2,but the form factor (more than the price) , helps to prevent my wallets from being empty ..
[ Two things, I am not satisfied about my SGS, GPS and low RAM, despite trying all fixes, would be significantly improved with SGS 2]
Also, particularly in the case of phones, the firmware makes a huge difference. (as can be noticed by the huge performance difference between the older eclair firmware vs the 2.2.1 froyo ones, for SGS). As it stands, O2X (stock) feels almost the same as SGS, in terms of responsiveness.. But, I am sure, some nice custom ROM's would help significantly widen the lead?
And, I feel that SGS's achilles heal is the low RAM, which the O2X also unfortunately shares. (330/340 vs 372 user available RAM).. You are right, in the sense, that there wouldn't be applications which would make use of the two cores fully; but better thread management by OS, could significantly help. [ ie. without applications being aware of the two/four cores, the OS would automatically spread the jobs over multiple cores.... which could probably be only in Android 4.0 or ICS] .. So, the days of single core are still not gone, but it won't be long before single core phones are pushed into the mid-end of the market..
(Nowadays,it is mostly near high end)..

Yes I know it isnt current but I am 16 year old student, so that 250$ is a big deal for me.

Dragooon123 said:
Yes I know it isnt current but I am 16 year old student, so that 250$ is a big deal for me.
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Wow!! For 250$, it is a real VFM.. You stay in India only , right? How did you manage to get it for so cheap?

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Wow!! For 250$, it is a real VFM.. You stay in India only , right? How did you manage to get it for so cheap?
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No, what I meant was that the extra 250$ it would've taken for me to get a SGSII is a big deal for me. I got my SGS for a 6 month old HTC Desire + 150$

[Q] Still worth buying Samsung galaxy s?

Hi guys
I want to buy a new smartphone and I am thinking about samsung galaxy s i9000 because it's obviously very good phone and currently the price is very reasonable. But this phone has only 512 ram and I want for example at the same time to use web browser, skype, listen music, etc. I mean is all that ok for a phone or it will start lagging a lot? Maybe it's not worth buying it cause it's already 1 year old and phones with 2x more ram and dual core cpus comming, so maybe it's worth waiting for them to get cheaper? Or it's still very good investment for a price? (SGS2 costs like 1.7x more so too much for me)

Have a look at that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173923
I still would recommend it, especially because it's now about 300€ and there are only a few little bugs left, which i hope will be fixed with the next update (like browser-scrolling etc.). Also battery life is very good since JVO i think.

Today I was doing a side by side comparison on my 9000 / 2.3.4 with my cousins 9003 / 2.3.3
Edit SGS from 3 / 2.3.4 vs SGS2 from craphonewhorehouse / 2.3.3
the 9003 is physically bigger, and has a physically bigger screen, and it has a dual core cpu...... but......
speaking *personally* the 9003 is a little too big, in fact the 9000 is already pushing the boundaries on size for a "phone"
the bigger screen in nice, but I know someone who uses a 7" galaxy tab as a phone, for phone / mms / email the 9000 screen is as big as I want.
dual core? well if I played games I might need it, but the single core on my 9000 does everything *I* ask it to, including playing video seamlessly.
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sweet **** all in it so far, all personal preferences...
the REAL difference is the 9000 is mature, incredibly well known, with an incredible set of resources and knowledge.
the REAL difference is not being the latest and greatest any more, the 9000 is cheaper, significantly cheaper.
I was offered a straight swap today 9000 <> 9003, I turned it down.

Johnny55555555 said:
if I was offered a straight swap today 9000 <> 9003, I turned it down.
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Yes right, of course you would
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Thanks for opinions.
Well the main thing for me I think is RAM. Is SGS not slow when having several programs running (skype, web browser, music..)?

I only recently got an i9000 and found it really doesn't matter about its age, it performs incredibly well, and has the advantage of having a massive load of excellent custom roms to use.
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Besides the the missing dual core, I think i9000 is gold for it's value. Which I might add, is running current performance standard for all phones since dual core is considered high end atm.

Johnny55555555 said:
Today I was doing a side by side comparison on my 9000 / 2.3.4 with my cousins 9003 / 2.3.3
the 9003 is physically bigger, and has a physically bigger screen, and it has a dual core cpu...... but......
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I9003 don't have dual core cpu it's 1GHz Cortex A8 CPU, PowerVR SGX530 GPU, TI OMAP 3630 chipset
you can buy i9000 for now as it's still one of the fastest phones and next year you will be able to buy i9100 at less once galaxy s 3 comes

I'd go for a newer phone than the Galaxy S if it had a greater variety of mods/kernels. I don't think that's going to happen for a while =P
The Galaxy S II looks promising, though.

The SGS has a good balance between hardware specs and software / os requirements.
The SGS 2 doesn't have this balance. At this time, 99% of the users simply don't use that extra hardware capacity.
In my view, the decision to purchase an SGS2 vs an SGS really boils down to the screen and the camera. If you want the Full HD video recording, improved camera and better screen and you think the price premium warrants it - then go for SGS2.
But if you think the SGS is more than satisfactory in these areas, then SGS it is.
People talk about the improved hardware specs of the SGS2... but until that translates into real-life improvements "my SGS2 can do this...and your SGS can't" then we simply won't see people rushing out to buy them.

You can guy mine if you want....comes boxed with everything!
RoOSTA

Recently got one. I look at it as a mid range phone with lots of custom roms. For me, its a great phone to start off for Android due to its resources.

i've only gotten mine for about 2 months now, and it's worth it, came from a wildfire... and i must say the community here is heaps more different than the wildfire community (i enjoy it here more)... the wildfire community had some ppl that annoyed me so much and were so clueless about everything lol

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Yes right, of course you would
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you EDITED my post from "I was offered..." to "If I was offered...."
the fact that you have to make me a liar to make your point says it all.
I was offered a straight swap by my cousin, I turned it down.

Unless u got cash to burn or always wanted to have the latest gadget. If not, I would say SGS is still worth to buy.. With many custom rom.. I would say it's one of the stable android phone around.. Of cos, not the latest in terms of hardware (dual core)..
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You should definitively go for the SGS.
I got mine 2 months ago, and I'm sure I'm going to still like my phone in 2 or 3 years, if it makes it through

Get the sgs, then get the sgs 2 in 18 months when its cheap (if you can handle large size) sgs is great, android apps not really able to fully exploit dual core yet
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I don't really worry about dual core cpu, I worry more about rams. This phone does not have much of them and noone answered my question how laggy is phone when several programs running (skype, web browser, music player...)

Kblavkalash said:
I don't really worry about dual core cpu, I worry more about rams. This phone does not have much of them and noone answered my question how laggy is phone when several programs running (skype, web browser, music player...)
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Very laggy
Get the iPhone!
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pkhbdb said:
You should definitively go for the SGS.
I got mine 2 months ago, and I'm sure I'm going to still like my phone in 2 or 3 years, if it makes it through
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We will take care of that ;-)
I allways buy a phone every three years so will continu development and mods ;-)
That is from the launch date of the SGS so to speek...
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SGS1 or SGS2?

I never used smartphone and now decided to buy one. Obviously SGS2 is better phone but it costs like 1.7x times more than SGS1. What you guys think it's worth overpaying that much for newer version of galaxy or SGS1 is still really good phone?

SGS1 Excellent phone but this is a much better phone. Buy what you need .
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Right now, yeah, you could get by pretty well with a galaxy s1. The question is, how well will it work in a year and a half? The 3 real arguments for the S2 over the S1 right now are:
1) It's a shiny new toy and I want it really bad.
2) It's somewhat more future-proof. This phone won't be the best in a year and a half, but it will still be pretty good.
3) I'm a huge power-user, and I fall into the 1% of phone users who push the hardware to the limits, and so yes, I need this phone.
Honestly, for me it was a combination of 1 and 2

I have both, and are both very good phones, but out of the two the SGS2 wins hands down, just by the slickness of it, no jerkiness when scrolling or playing HD games , and the extra size in display really does make a difference too !

Both are great phones. If you are planning to keep the phone for a while then I'd recommend the SG2 as dual core is not really being maximised at the moment but should do in the future but then hey we may get quad core phones. If audio is important to you then get the SG1 with the voodoo sound its one of the best mobile devices for audio playback the SG2 has a different sound card which is inferior.
You'll be happy with either, SG1 still has a good following, also check out the forthcoming galaxy plus.
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Right now, yeah, you could get by pretty well with a galaxy s1. The question is, how well will it work in a year and a half? The 3 real arguments for the S2 over the S1 right now are:
1) It's a shiny new toy and I want it really bad.
2) It's somewhat more future-proof. This phone won't be the best in a year and a half, but it will still be pretty good.
3) I'm a huge power-user, and I fall into the 1% of phone users who push the hardware to the limits, and so yes, I need this phone.
Honestly, for me it was a combination of 1 and 2
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I would say main reason for me would be 2). I want a device which going to be good in the following 2-3 years. But on the other hand SGS1 will be good as well I don't care about playing games.
What really makes me want buying SGS2 vs. SGS1 is the less lag and more ram - I care most about those things. People say SGS2 is much faster and less laggy.
Today I saw it and it's really huge, maybe even too huge

You can easily flash gingerbread 2.3.4 on the s1. No lag whatsover and a faster filesystem ext4. I have a 10 year old pc of similar hardware and dont see why the s1 is not goo enough for a few years. I used to have one before I lost it
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Both are great phones, but at this time the SGS2 is the better option.

Sgs2 has hspa+. And there are spots in my country where i get this. The real usefullness of this phone will happen by next year where there will be lots of accesories. I plan to keep this for 3 years.
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lol offcourse sgs2 no doubt on it !!!

I feel it's going to be a difficult decision

I have both. I wouldn't have either if Samsung didn't fix my GS1 for free, but it's clear i couldn't go back to it, it's either GS2 or nothing. The speed difference is massive and that's why my wife has the 1 and i have 2.

I came from the SGS and got the SGS II now. For me the kicker was the lag and overall smoothness. SGS II has zero lag on scrolling, browsing, and on opening apps. And it doesn't matter how many apps you have open. There is a huge huge difference in lag and smoothness between the two.
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I have a sgs1 and I did some comparison tests with my neighbour's sgs2
The sgs1 got only 2 advantages:
The sound is superior even without voodoo tweaks...actually the sgs1 got the best sound of all devices I tested including some standalone MP3 players
The second advantage is the price that is going down exactly because of the sgs2
For all other features the sgs2 is better
I think I will wait for the next sgs (3?) device, hoping that it will have the wolson sound chipset again or better, since this is one of the main features for me (the sound)
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Edit: and with sgs3 I mean Hercules ??

Thx for advices!
Now after reading about amoled screens I started to worry about possible screen burn in after some time. I buy phone for 3+ years I would be very dissapointed if the screen won't last that long..

You gotta get your information sources straight man...
It make no sense what you are talking about...

I recently got the SG2 (replacement for a broken htc desire) and the phone feels so much better. My dad has the sg1 and i'd rather have the sg2. I reckon if you bought the sg1 and a mate of yours showed you his nice new sg2 you would be jealous.

I was jealous...till I went comparing the sound quality....
Now I will wait on the Samsung hercules, hoping it is going to have the Wolfson chipset back as the sgs1 has:
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-hercules-coming-to-t-mobile-in-august-14441/

So the price difference where I live is exactly 2x more for SGS2 than for SGS1. Do you think it's worth paying two times more?

Kblavkalash said:
So the price difference where I live is exactly 2x more for SGS2 than for SGS1. Do you think it's worth paying two times more?
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Re-read my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15870440&postcount=14
And make up your mind
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thinking about getting a SGS2 need advice

Hi all, I know its down to personal preference, but, I have a SGS1 with 16GB internal memory running 2.3.3. stock, so getting a SGS2 would not improve any of that, do you think its worth getting the SGS2? what would you all do and what would be the improvement i would see?
Thanks for your thoughts

Been playing with one this weekend, they are very fast, have lots of memory and white ones look great.
The downside, everyone has one, sound is worse than SGS1, nexus prime out soon. I would personally get the nexus or wait for the SGS3 etc, surely you want something a bit different, the 2 is just a little bigger and a little faster
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kezgez said:
Hi all, I know its down to personal preference, but, I have a SGS1 with 16GB internal memory running 2.3.3. stock, so getting a SGS2 would not improve any of that, do you think its worth getting the SGS2? what would you all do and what would be the improvement i would see?
Thanks for your thoughts
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16 GB and 2.3.3... nope, you're right. There would be no improvement whatsoever. (Seriously? )
gsw5700 said:
Been playing with one this weekend, they are very fast, have lots of memory and white ones look great.
The downside, everyone has one, sound is worse than SGS1, nexus prime out soon. I would personally get the nexus or wait for the SGS3 etc, surely you want something a bit different, the 2 is just a little bigger and a little faster
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This, by far. +1

My wife picked one up a week ago, so I can truly compare mine to it side by side and I would say, I like it a lot.
1. Much, much faster.
2. There doesn't appear to be any Lag involved
3. Battery doesn't seem to last very long, but as I tested that part of it early on, it may need a few cycled charges to really say how good/bad it is.
4. GPS is way better than the SGS.
Now, having said all that, the phone is perfect for my wife (she bought the white one). She, having been a long-time blackberry user til her 9700 screen crapped out has been getting used to it, but she's starting to like this phone much better than her blackberry.
Like I said though.. its perfect for my wife. She doesn't know Gingerbread from Shortbread when it comes to this phone, and I intend to keep it that way. Yes this phone runs 2.3.3, but it doesn't seem to bad compared to my SGS with stock 2.3.3 as well. My phone is rooted, but I don't have intentions of rooting hers.
Long story short, its blazing fast, but I wouldn't buy one for myself. Samsung is just too slow on firmware updates to make it worth it for me. In fact any carrier specific phone would be. They are Androids, but they are kind of like Androids bastardized cousin. For me, my next phone is a nexus. I want it to grow as Android grows, and that only happens with Google.

Should wait for SGS 3, far better specs this phone will be awesom
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/10/is-...rther-details-leak-on-samsungs-next-flagship/

My Mrs has a black sgs2 and comparing it to my original sgs is tough.
On the plus side the screen and speed of the sgs2 are really nice. However for everyday use i find it just that little bit too big, also the handset doesn't feel as strong as the original. Im reasonably confident i could drop my phone and survive to tell the tale, but with the 2 i find myself being really careful.
Sound on the 2 really isn't anywhere near the standard of original, i like to hear my music, although I've not seen if supercurio has made much progress on the 2.
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franklin01 said:
Should wait for SGS 3, far better specs this phone will be awesom
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/10/is-...rther-details-leak-on-samsungs-next-flagship/
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I agree, those are awesome specs. But then again, so are the SGII's... definitely not comparable, but awesome nonetheless.
My whole point in this is, specs are just that... specs. The SGS II that my wife has is amazing specs wise. Its head over heals better specs wise than my SGS1.
Here's the problem though... aside from flashier graphics, a bigger screen, and a flash for the camera, its still 2.3.3. So its not a great leap for me to go to it.... its essentially the same phone if you think about it. Sure, the SGS2 will most likely get the upgrade to ICS, but when? After Jello or whatever 'J' is comes out?
The SGS3 will suffer the same fate. It will be up to Samsung to update it, not google.
The SGS3 will be a great phone, but you'll have to wait for a developer to harness its true power. Just like the SG2 and SGS1.
Whereas any nexus incarnation will have google behind it, and updated accordingly.

franklin01 said:
Should wait for SGS 3, far better specs this phone will be awesom
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/10/is-...rther-details-leak-on-samsungs-next-flagship/
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1.8 GHz dual core, 2GB RAM and samoled plus HD (read: RGB, not pentile)...daaaamn. I'm dropping cash on that the day it comes out unless I get a Nexus Prime instead. The rounded shape makes it look pretty big though.
Could be total BS though, there are two mistakes on the slide: copying is spelt wrong and the SGS doesn't have exynos cpu it has hummingbird. It's also weird that the "copying or reproduction is not allowed" is located like that, usually it would be along the bottom of each slide in a presentation so as not to interfere with any of the content. The way it is kind of screams "single fake slide".

For the record, Samsung renamed all their SoC to Exynos xxxx, even humingbird. I find this stupid, but that's how it is.
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ok, thanks guys, lots to think about.

greeced said:
My whole point in this is, specs are just that... specs. The SGS II that my wife has is amazing specs wise. Its head over heals better specs wise than my SGS1.
Here's the problem though... aside from flashier graphics, a bigger screen, and a flash for the camera, its still 2.3.3. So its not a great leap for me to go to it.... its essentially the same phone if you think about it. Sure, the SGS2 will most likely get the upgrade to ICS, but when? After Jello or whatever 'J' is comes out?
The SGS3 will suffer the same fate. It will be up to Samsung to update it, not google.
The SGS3 will be a great phone, but you'll have to wait for a developer to harness its true power. Just like the SG2 and SGS1.
Whereas any nexus incarnation will have google behind it, and updated accordingly.
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I have no problem running stock AOSP Android on any SGS, so what exactly are you waiting for? You say we have to wait for Samsung, then we have to wait for a developer... but in reality, ICS will be on the SGS2 with practically no wait at all.

Please wait a few months to nexus prime. You wont regret!
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seen the specs for the galaxy nexus think the SGS II looks better

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I have no problem running stock AOSP Android on any SGS, so what exactly are you waiting for? You say we have to wait for Samsung, then we have to wait for a developer... but in reality, ICS will be on the SGS2 with practically no wait at all.
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"Official Samsung Firmwares" are never instantaneous, at least not here in Canada they aren't.
I mean think about it. The original SGS was the flagship phone, and we had to wait a long to go to Froyo when it first came out to the rest of the world... then while the rest of the world was enjoying bug fixes inside 2.2.1, we in Canada never received a 2.2.1 update at all.
Then go over to Gingerbread. Took forever for Canada to yet again see 2.3.3. But that is where Canada is at right now.. INCLUDING THE CURRENT FLAGSHIP SGS2. The rest of the world is either enjoying 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 or 2.3.6.
Lets not even mention the blatant, "reproduceable for anyone" bugs that are in 2.3.3 but not 2.3.4 for our I9000M's... namely swype speech button not working at all on the SGS.
AOSP? You'd have to fill me in on where you're getting your roms that don't void warranty for using them. Thats not a point I care about, but many others out there do.
The SGS2 (My wifes) was released AFTER 2.3.4 came out... yet they put 2.3.3 on it. That make any sense to anyone?
Sure it makes sense.. Carrier branded or "Locked" phones get in the way of quick releases for obvious reasons, and beyond that, samsung has 10 billion different incarnations of the same device that may need tweaking here or there to the rom. Hence slowdowns.
Having said all this, Google Phones don't have that problem.... The Nexus Prime will be what? the 3rd or 4th phone released under the Nexus name? Easy to code for, find bugs and release an update.
All these specs we are seeing for the SGS 3 may or may not be real. Same goes for the Nexus Prime. We'll have to wait and see.... but to me, quick support and updates mean everything.

please correct me if im wrong but the galaxy nexus is made by samsung so wont we have the same software update waits that we get with the SGS1 and 2

No the nexus s is also Samsung but nexus phones get software straight from google.

I have had a Galaxy S for 6 months and I upgraded to a Galaxy S2 a couple of weeks ago.
On the SG1 sound over the earphones is better, battery lasts longer and... that's all.
Everything else is better on the SG2 but the true big reason to upgrade, for me, was the SG2'S 1Gb RAM. I multitask a lot and even with bigmem firmwares and GalaxyTuner task-killer tuning I had apps having to reload almost every time I switched back to them (especially when one of the ones open in the background was the browser, which was very often).
That's the big single reason to upgrade, for me, and I am VERY happy with the SG2 in this regard. This phone is a multitasking king.
Having said all of that, unless you have similar needs I wouldn't advise upgrading. Everything is better on the SG2 but not enough, IMO, to make the upgrade worth it. Wait for something which is a bigger improvement over the SG1, like the Note (not for everyone, I know, but going to be my next smartphone in 6 months or so) or the SG3.
BTW, I see the Galaxy Nexus mentioned a lot, to me it's inferior to my SG2 (NO SD CARD SLOT!?!) apart obviously from ICS, which the SG2 is going to get.

I had a play around on an SGS2, had the opportunity to upgrade from my i9000 relatively cheaply and even though I thought it was great, would have appreciated the additional RAM and more powerful CPU I didn't go for it. The audio quality was just crap compared to my SGS and half the time I listen to music on it whilst working or on the bus or whatever so music's important to me and in that sense it would have been a downgrade.
Also as a matter of personal taste I thought it was a little too big. You could get used to it but the way I see it even with my giant head and giant hands I just about get away with a 4 inch handset (which I find the ideal sort of size) and anything larger just seems a little ostentatious. Unfortunately there currently seems to be a trend towards giant phones which I'm hoping will die out soon because when I do get round to upgrading I don't want to feel like I have to walk around with some Trigger Happy TVesque giant.
Anyways, like the bloke above I think the RAM would be the biggest upgrade, multitasking and all that. I don't really see anything that really needs the dual core processor and GPU wise the SGX540 in the SGS is alright, and seeing as we don't currently get the games you do on iOS it's not like it's really getting pushed that much anyway.
Bottomline I'd say if music is important to you, stick to the SGS. If not and you're a multitasking fiend it's probably worth the upgrade if you can get a good deal.