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First time rooter here and was wondering if there is a simple way to go by doing this. I know there is visionary and gfree method. But my issue is that if I need to unroot (say I need to exchange it out for another one if something goes wrong) which one is the best to go by or is there an even more simpler way? Or do I need to even unroot? Like in other words, will they not care if it is rooted or not? I also have the monthly $5 warranty if that helps.
Thanx
P.s. How likely are the chances of me bricking the phone?
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This method (Click Here ) is the simplest with the LEAST chance of bricking your phone. (make sure to follow the link at the bottom of the page).
Now the good thing is if you use that method and do not flash the engineering screen "unrooting" the phone can be done the very same way. You will need the "unroot.sh" file script (Which can be downloaded from here) to do that but is very possible.

gfree method is reverse-able I think. you need to back up the file(s) made during gfree process.

leo221 said:
gfree method is reverse-able I think. you need to back up the file(s) made during gfree process.
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It is reversible. but the root.sh method is much easier for one worried about bricking a device.

that all depends on what you plan on doing with your rooted phone. if you wanna flash roms and all that fun stuff a temp root will not turn s=off so it wont work. the gfree method is the only root method i could get to work on mine and i tried all of them.

dennis- said:
that all depends on what you plan on doing with your rooted phone. if you wanna flash roms and all that fun stuff a temp root will not turn s=off so it wont work. the gfree method is the only root method i could get to work on mine and i tried all of them.
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If you have a problem with the root.sh script method of rooting your phone SOMETHING (more times than not, it's the user) is seriously jacked.
The root.sh will turn s=off easily and painlessly. it will allow you do do what ever you want to do in a rooted state minus flashing splash screen. Which you need an Engineering HBoot for that. Even the ./gfree method will not flash that it has to manually be done.
I had my s=off prior to leaving the T-Mobile store the day i bought my MyTouchHD using the root.sh method.
i would be willing to unroot my phone back to a stock format and reroot & flash CM7 with that method if you would like me to, and let you see via youtube.

Like I said, im kinda new at this and a vid would be really helpful to the best root for me. Also I wanted to root my phone so I can get gingerbread on it (phone ruins alot smoother from what I hear) and is it a difficult process to unroot from a permroot through visionary plus.
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=hFOi6fYbnu0
(cant post outside links cuz I'm new here) :\
tell me if this is legit please (for the root and unroot) and that if it is worth doing.
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fazelove said:
Like I said, im kinda new at this and a vid would be really helpful to the best root for me. Also I wanted to root my phone so I can get gingerbread on it (phone ruins alot smoother from what I hear) and is it a difficult process to unroot from a permroot through visionary plus.
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=hFOi6fYbnu0
(cant post outside links cuz I'm new here) :\
tell me if this is legit please (for the root and unroot) and that if it is worth doing.
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if you follow the method i posted above from TheUnlockr you will not have any problems. Like i said that way is pretty much impossible to brick the phone.

Thanx
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Is there a video I could follow, more a visual type of guy
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fazelove said:
Is there a video I could follow, more a visual type of guy
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The Unlockr's page should have a flashed based video on the page.

[Q] rooting MT4G

hey guys
so today i got my replacement MT4G from t mobile (my old one broke M4G2DE emmc chip, recovery errors.. etc).
so i checked the emmc chip on my new one and i got SEM04G (woot!!).
since i have the "good" chip, does that mean that im safe to root and not have any errors or encounter any problems?
thx

I have same chip no problems rooting for me.
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Where do u check for the chip cuz i can't root my sisters phone and she got it a week ago
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saranhai said:
hey guys
so today i got my replacement MT4G from t mobile (my old one broke M4G2DE emmc chip, recovery errors.. etc).
so i checked the emmc chip on my new one and i got SEM04G (woot!!).
since i have the "good" chip, does that mean that im safe to root and not have any errors or encounter any problems?
thx
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you should be good to go, as long as you flash things properly and READ everything just to make sure lol. I have the good chip but I fudged up somewhere so I can only blame myself for my issue

mrbuddhasr said:
Where do u check for the chip cuz i can't root my sisters phone and she got it a week ago
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here is the thread, check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243

Should be able to root with visionary instead of gfree on that chip. avoid the problems that peeps are pointing at with gfree/bad chip

eqjunkie829 said:
Should be able to root with visionary instead of gfree on that chip. avoid the problems that peeps are pointing at with gfree/bad chip
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so the visionary method is the "safe" one rite?
and also... does visionary give u SIM unlock too?
lol sry noob here xP
and also... can i flash eng hboot after visionary root?

saranhai said:
so the visionary method is the "safe" one rite?
and also... does visionary give u SIM unlock too?
lol sry noob here xP
and also... can i flash eng hboot after visionary root?
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Visionary does not unlock the Sim, Gfree will. I also have the good chip and rooted with Visionary but want the Sim unlock. I'm just nervous to try Gfree as everything is working perfect right now and I don't want to screw anything up.

Coppo said:
rooted with Visionary
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Both methods use visionary - you mean you rooted with the root.sh method and not the gfree method.

I tried the root.sh and it won't work I think it has a bad chip and it sucks cuz this can mess up for me on the future if I had to get a replacement phone btw I alreadu have a rooted mt4g. I was just trying to root another one
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hey so can anyone tell me...
how did ppl start getting recovery cache errors?
was it because of bad eMMC chip?
or something that they flashed wrong?
i rooted with VISIONARY root.sh...
soo am i safe?
i rly dont want to start getting those errors again.. lol

visionary

Im sure that this question has probably been asked but here goes.
If I root using visionary, would that be the same as the gfree method? Im talking about permroot
Also I heard that in visionary there is an 'unroot now' option is that true?

Concorde380 said:
Im sure that this question has probably been asked but here goes.
If I root using visionary, would that be the same as the gfree method? Im talking about permroot
Also I heard that in visionary there is an 'unroot now' option is that true?
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The MyTouch4G, as well as many other HTC devices, has a security protocol in place. That is what we are referring to when we say "s-on/s-off" the perma-root option on VISIONary will not turn that off. Option94, who is great developer, said that his team couldn't come up with a one touch root process for this phone. with that being said you must you either use the ./gfree or the root.sh method to root your phones. I have links to both in my signature.
However, and i don't mean to come across as rude.
I would step back from jumping in the "root pool" and look around and study. Rooting your phone doesn't put you in any certain level, or any class of Android users. You need to know the very basics, and what they do. There is a-lot of information out there. Take your time, read up, and study the process before attempting anything. It's pretty clear this is your first root, and it appears you didn't even attempt to read a rooting process for this phone. You just search for one click root and found VISIONary and ./gfree, and ./gfree scared you off, most likely due to the ADB commands. I have a link in my signature to a thread where T_B Drew has set up a very simple way to set up your ADB and get you rolling. Start there, it's a good launch point. Once you are done with that check out the "post your eMMC serial number" thread in the General section and see what chip set you have, and the downfall of rooting a phone with a bad, or maybe "good" chip.

Concorde380 said:
Im sure that this question has probably been asked but here goes.
If I root using visionary, would that be the same as the gfree method? Im talking about permroot
Also I heard that in visionary there is an 'unroot now' option is that true?
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you can't perm root with visionary alone, you need to use the root.sh method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
visionary root.sh is the safer way to root your device.
the next way is the gfree method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
the differences: visionary/root.sh method gives you label s-off, and changes your bootloader to eng hboot.
gfree however, gives you radio s-off (you can flash eng hboot if you want), super CID, and SIMUNLOCK your device, so you can use other carrier's SIM cards (i e ATT)
but first, check your eMMC chip type http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
if your chip is an M4G2DE, i highly recommend you not root, as the chip will die.

neidlinger said:
However, and i don't mean to come across as rude.
I would step back from jumping in the "root pool" and look around and study. Rooting your phone doesn't put you in any certain level, or any class of Android users. You need to know the very basics, and what they do. There is a-lot of information out there. Take your time, read up, and study the process before attempting anything. It's pretty clear this is your first root, and it appears you didn't even attempt to read a rooting process for this phone. You just search for one click root and found VISIONary, but didn't find the proper way to s-off.
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I am actually just trying to get ask the facts straight so that I don't brick my phone.i have done alot of reading.
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I have the other chip
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Concorde380 said:
I am actually just trying to get ask the facts straight so that I don't brick my phone.i have done alot of reading.
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Well that's a good start. But you would of seen in the thread for the ./gfree method that you need to replace a specific file to unroot your phone using the ./gfree method. So no the VISIONary.apk will not unroot your device for you. You must replace the file it puts on your SDcard.

Thanks.by the way I've also seen hours of videos on how to unroot.
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Concorde380 said:
I have the other chip
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so you have SEM04G?
if you do, happy rooting

Yes I do
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it's better to root with the visionary/root.sh method
it's safer

which version should i use, 14,13,12,11,10 because in my readingsi've seen that you have to use version 12 because the others don't work

Concorde380 said:
which version should i use, 14,13,12,11,10 because in my readingsi've seen that you have to use version 12 because the others don't work
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"you" as in me?
yea, i think i used v12, but honestly, it doesn't really matter, v14 just gives you more options

By you I mean all of you xda members

saranhai said:
"you" as in me?
yea, i think i used v12, but honestly, it doesn't really matter, v14 just gives you more options
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No, it does matter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138032

yea.. it doesn't really matter what version you use, use the one that works

saranhai said:
yea.. it doesn't really matter what version you use, use the one that works
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Since some obviously don't work on the MT4G, I would say what version you use does matter. What are you going to do with a version does doesn't work?

TeeJay3800 said:
Since some obviously don't work on the MT4G, I would say what version you use does matter. What are you going to do with a version does doesn't work?
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i see where @saranhai is coming from. I've personally never had problems with r14. But i will state i've see alot of people claim r14 is FUBAR'd.
better to use r11 to avoid redownloading, reinstalling when/if r11 doesn't work.

[Q] Visionary root with bad emmc? (Not Noob)

Hey guys I'm back from the MT4GS forums on behalf of my bro,
So he's visiting from college, and he wanted me to root his phone. So I checked his emmc before I started and he had the bad one
well I know there is no thought of even using gfree (what i used). So could I use Visionary or maybe even Revolutionary?

I have a bad chip and when I tried to root with visonary using the root. Sh method it didn't work I Don know it mite work for u depends if not your best bet is the gfree method and hope he has a good bad emmc
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"Not noob" and your post don't go well together.
Visionary is a method of achieving temp-root under 2.2.1. Doesn't work under 2.3.4.
Gfree or root.sh are methods for achieving perm-root. They also don't work under 2.3.4.
When rooting "bad" chip, root.sh method will not work with >99% probability. You can only root "bad" chip with gfree.
If you read some more ("recently discovered dangers" thread in Development, and another zillion of threads in General and Q&A with the same annoying questions), you'll discover that gfree ISN'T the cause of failure for "bad" chips.
To use gfree, you'll most probably need to downgrade. Read the relevant thread in G2 section. Link - in Glacier Wiki, under "Root", "Gingerbread".

btw I was able to Root my Bro's MT4G with visionary r14 on the perm root option and It is still working fine today....

Perm root on visionary does not work unless you're S-Off.
With the "bad chip" there is no way to get S-Off without gfree.
I call B.S.
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xmc wildchild22 said:
Hey guys I'm back from the MT4GS forums on behalf of my bro,
So he's visiting from college, and he wanted me to root his phone. So I checked his emmc before I started and he had the bad one
well I know there is no thought of even using gfree (what i used). So could I use Visionary or maybe even Revolutionary?
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I've been rooted, gfree, bad emmc chip for about a year. No problems. And I'm a flashaholic.
Check out my site: http://www.857music.com

ok fine....but it worked :/
BTW:
After temprooting with the visionary app...I clicked attempt Perm Root.... then temp-root, then permroot....and It had to have been S-off because I changed the radio for where he lives...

xmc wildchild22 said:
ok fine....but it worked :/
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After temprooting with the visionary app...I clicked attempt Perm Root.... then temp-root, then permroot....and It had to have been S-off because I changed the radio for where he lives...
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So you were already S-Off. Flash away.
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estallings15 said:
So you were already S-Off. Flash away.
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Lol kk fail....you win

New to Mt4g

Hi.
I'm new to Mt4g and I'm a bit confused about what to do. I got the bad emmc chip and it's 2.3.4 gingerbread version and carrier unlocked also.
What's the main difference between gfree and visionary root methods?
I read gfree instructions but it uses visionary application to get temproot, is this method still gfree, and not visionary? Or visionary is just the root.sh method?
My only interest is to use unnofficial roms because I suppose they are better.
I won't be able to return my phone as I don't live in USA, may I try root it?
Appreciate any help.

Please read the "newcomer" sticky threads in General and Q&A sections. Your questions are already answered, you're not the first person (and not the 1000th person either) to ask about MT4G on the largest MT4G forum on the internet, please keep that in mind when looking for further information.

I already read them many times after and before buying the phone.
I'm not new to forums.
But it's just because there is a confusion about methods name (which one is visionary?).
Beside of that, I've see people saying it's not about ”bad” emmc. And the newcomers threads are a bit older (as it's an older phone), so maybe there is a different conclusion from many users.
I think I would be able to follow every tutorial, but I'd like to see more advises considering my situation (impossibility of returning the phone).
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You have it right, visionary is the root.sh...if you have the bad emmc, then gfree is the way to go, make sure to follow the downgrade guides before trying to root and to install the engineering bootloader.

ronin178 said:
You have it right, visionary is the root.sh...if you have the bad emmc, then gfree is the way to go, make sure to follow the downgrade guides before trying to root and to install the engineering bootloader.
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I used visionary + gfree to root my "bad" eMMC. Visionary to install superuser and su binary and gfree for s-off.
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