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Q: gfree and rage root

I'm thinking about rooting my gf's glacier and have read the wiki regarding the methods to use, it appears similar to the G2 visionary plus gfree method,i however used the gfree and rage exploit instead so I was wondering could I do the same with the glacier? Its not covered in the wiki so I'm reluctant to do so, any help is appreciated!
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justthetip said:
I'm thinking about rooting my gf's glacier and have read the wiki regarding the methods to use, it appears similar to the G2 visionary plus gfree method,i however used the gfree and rage exploit instead so I was wondering could I do the same with the glacier? Its not covered in the wiki so I'm reluctant to do so, any help is appreciated!
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This is best method for rooting ones MyTouchHD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
They are rooted slightly differently. The files are not exactly the same.

I would definitely use the above link. A week ago I had no idea what rooting was, and I used that link and followed the directions to the T. It was a great walk through and it worked perfectly.

thanks for the replies guys! i will just go ahead and stick to what the wiki says, and as for the link mentioned above is that the preferred method?

I don't know if it is the preferred method by everyone, but it definitely is for me, since it worked great. I followed the instructions in the link neidlinger posted to a tee, and it worked exactly as stated. I had a factory fresh Glacier with 2.2.1 on it and this method worked perfect. I now have permanent root and with no issues whatsoever.

after more reading it appears i can use the gfree + rage method! but it is known as the cyanogenmod way when it comes to this phone.

question, i rooted my mt4g i think before that thread was published so i used visionary to get temp and perm root.
is my device rooted the same as this method? i know i dont have the sim unlocked like my G2 is via using the gfree but is it still just as good?
i just installed cyanogenmod 7nightly 8 on it and it seems to be running ok. i havent played with it tho as it is not my primary device anymore (went to a G2).
if so, can Gfree root still be done? can i still do the gfree method on the phone with a terminal emulator like i did on the G2 because i cannot get ADB to install or recognize a phone on my computer at all.

tackleberry said:
question, i rooted my mt4g i think before that thread was published so i used visionary to get temp and perm root.
is my device rooted the same as this method? i know i dont have the sim unlocked like my G2 is via using the gfree but is it still just as good?
i just installed cyanogenmod 7nightly 8 on it and it seems to be running ok. i havent played with it tho as it is not my primary device anymore (went to a G2).
if so, can Gfree root still be done? can i still do the gfree method on the phone with a terminal emulator like i did on the G2 because i cannot get ADB to install or recognize a phone on my computer at all.
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If you read the title in the thread it explains that you should still do it and why. Also you can check out my adb thread in the dev section or in my signature for a easy 5 minute setup. There is a video too. And yes you can do it with terminal emulator too.
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TrueBlue_Drew said:
If you read the title in the thread it explains that you should still do it and why. Also you can check out my adb thread in the dev section or in my signature for a easy 5 minute setup. There is a video too. And yes you can do it with terminal emulator too.
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Are the instructions for using gfree via term emulator in the link above or somewhere else? Thanks for the info. Im kinda done with adb its starting to make me want to throw my laptop lol
From my permarooted 1209mhz G2 with CM7 nightly 6

visionary

Im sure that this question has probably been asked but here goes.
If I root using visionary, would that be the same as the gfree method? Im talking about permroot
Also I heard that in visionary there is an 'unroot now' option is that true?

Concorde380 said:
Im sure that this question has probably been asked but here goes.
If I root using visionary, would that be the same as the gfree method? Im talking about permroot
Also I heard that in visionary there is an 'unroot now' option is that true?
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The MyTouch4G, as well as many other HTC devices, has a security protocol in place. That is what we are referring to when we say "s-on/s-off" the perma-root option on VISIONary will not turn that off. Option94, who is great developer, said that his team couldn't come up with a one touch root process for this phone. with that being said you must you either use the ./gfree or the root.sh method to root your phones. I have links to both in my signature.
However, and i don't mean to come across as rude.
I would step back from jumping in the "root pool" and look around and study. Rooting your phone doesn't put you in any certain level, or any class of Android users. You need to know the very basics, and what they do. There is a-lot of information out there. Take your time, read up, and study the process before attempting anything. It's pretty clear this is your first root, and it appears you didn't even attempt to read a rooting process for this phone. You just search for one click root and found VISIONary and ./gfree, and ./gfree scared you off, most likely due to the ADB commands. I have a link in my signature to a thread where T_B Drew has set up a very simple way to set up your ADB and get you rolling. Start there, it's a good launch point. Once you are done with that check out the "post your eMMC serial number" thread in the General section and see what chip set you have, and the downfall of rooting a phone with a bad, or maybe "good" chip.

Concorde380 said:
Im sure that this question has probably been asked but here goes.
If I root using visionary, would that be the same as the gfree method? Im talking about permroot
Also I heard that in visionary there is an 'unroot now' option is that true?
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you can't perm root with visionary alone, you need to use the root.sh method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
visionary root.sh is the safer way to root your device.
the next way is the gfree method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
the differences: visionary/root.sh method gives you label s-off, and changes your bootloader to eng hboot.
gfree however, gives you radio s-off (you can flash eng hboot if you want), super CID, and SIMUNLOCK your device, so you can use other carrier's SIM cards (i e ATT)
but first, check your eMMC chip type http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
if your chip is an M4G2DE, i highly recommend you not root, as the chip will die.

neidlinger said:
However, and i don't mean to come across as rude.
I would step back from jumping in the "root pool" and look around and study. Rooting your phone doesn't put you in any certain level, or any class of Android users. You need to know the very basics, and what they do. There is a-lot of information out there. Take your time, read up, and study the process before attempting anything. It's pretty clear this is your first root, and it appears you didn't even attempt to read a rooting process for this phone. You just search for one click root and found VISIONary, but didn't find the proper way to s-off.
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I am actually just trying to get ask the facts straight so that I don't brick my phone.i have done alot of reading.
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I have the other chip
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Concorde380 said:
I am actually just trying to get ask the facts straight so that I don't brick my phone.i have done alot of reading.
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Well that's a good start. But you would of seen in the thread for the ./gfree method that you need to replace a specific file to unroot your phone using the ./gfree method. So no the VISIONary.apk will not unroot your device for you. You must replace the file it puts on your SDcard.

Thanks.by the way I've also seen hours of videos on how to unroot.
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Concorde380 said:
I have the other chip
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so you have SEM04G?
if you do, happy rooting

Yes I do
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it's better to root with the visionary/root.sh method
it's safer

which version should i use, 14,13,12,11,10 because in my readingsi've seen that you have to use version 12 because the others don't work

Concorde380 said:
which version should i use, 14,13,12,11,10 because in my readingsi've seen that you have to use version 12 because the others don't work
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"you" as in me?
yea, i think i used v12, but honestly, it doesn't really matter, v14 just gives you more options

By you I mean all of you xda members

saranhai said:
"you" as in me?
yea, i think i used v12, but honestly, it doesn't really matter, v14 just gives you more options
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No, it does matter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138032

yea.. it doesn't really matter what version you use, use the one that works

saranhai said:
yea.. it doesn't really matter what version you use, use the one that works
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Since some obviously don't work on the MT4G, I would say what version you use does matter. What are you going to do with a version does doesn't work?

TeeJay3800 said:
Since some obviously don't work on the MT4G, I would say what version you use does matter. What are you going to do with a version does doesn't work?
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i see where @saranhai is coming from. I've personally never had problems with r14. But i will state i've see alot of people claim r14 is FUBAR'd.
better to use r11 to avoid redownloading, reinstalling when/if r11 doesn't work.

[Q] Root Methods: Gfree vs. Visionary?

Hey all,
Now that I have my HTC Sensation, I feel more at ease perma-rooting my MT4G and playing with it (read too many threads about bricks and problems to feel comfortable with it before). Question though...
Which method to use? The invasive Gfree for TRUE S=Off or the less-invasive Visionary method with LABEL S=Off? I was going to opt for the Gfree, but suddenly I'm reading about all kinds of issues with it.
So what's the consensus? Are most people using Gfree now and I just happen to be reading the vocal minority of those who've had issues?

themoebius said:
Hey all,
Now that I have my HTC Sensation, I feel more at ease perma-rooting my MT4G and playing with it (read too many threads about bricks and problems to feel comfortable with it before). Question though...
Which method to use? The invasive Gfree for TRUE S=Off or the less-invasive Visionary method with LABEL S=Off? I was going to opt for the Gfree, but suddenly I'm reading about all kinds of issues with it.
So what's the consensus? Are most people using Gfree now and I just happen to be reading the vocal minority of those who've had issues?
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Go with the root.sh method and get the .85 bootloader.
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+ 1...try visionary with root.sh first...sometimes it doesn't work and then you will ned to do gfree-just make sure you follow the steps to get the engineering bootloader as that can come in handy down the road. Also you should probably check which emmc chip you have first cause if you have the "bad" one, you may want to think twice about rooting...

Check for which emmc you have first to save time. If it's the bad one then go straight for gfree. If not then go for root.sh.
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visionary+

Thanks guys! Looks like I have the SEM04G chip... if I'm reading correctly that should be the GOOD chip and I should be clear to use the Visionary + root.sh method correct?

themoebius said:
Thanks guys! Looks like I have the SEM04G chip... if I'm reading correctly that should be the GOOD chip and I should be clear to use the Visionary + root.sh method correct?
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It should work then.
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themoebius said:
Thanks guys! Looks like I have the SEM04G chip... if I'm reading correctly that should be the GOOD chip and I should be clear to use the Visionary + root.sh method correct?
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not certainly. I have the same chip, and root.sh method was failing at the beginning, with an error regarding wpx.ko
So I had to use Gfree, and it worked

Funny you should mention it, but the root.sh method does not appear to be working for me either after multiple attempts. It's likely I am getting the same "error" you were, about the wpx.ko saying "Not implemented", but I read that was normal so, oh well. Was about to say to hell with it and try the gfree method. Is there any real reason NOT to use gfree?

themoebius said:
Funny you should mention it, but the root.sh method does not appear to be working for me either after multiple attempts. It's likely I am getting the same "error" you were, about the wpx.ko saying "Not implemented", but I read that was normal so, oh well. Was about to say to hell with it and try the gfree method. Is there any real reason NOT to use gfree?
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Nope gfree is great, you should get the Eng. Bootloader though.
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[Q] Visionary root with bad emmc? (Not Noob)

Hey guys I'm back from the MT4GS forums on behalf of my bro,
So he's visiting from college, and he wanted me to root his phone. So I checked his emmc before I started and he had the bad one
well I know there is no thought of even using gfree (what i used). So could I use Visionary or maybe even Revolutionary?

I have a bad chip and when I tried to root with visonary using the root. Sh method it didn't work I Don know it mite work for u depends if not your best bet is the gfree method and hope he has a good bad emmc
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"Not noob" and your post don't go well together.
Visionary is a method of achieving temp-root under 2.2.1. Doesn't work under 2.3.4.
Gfree or root.sh are methods for achieving perm-root. They also don't work under 2.3.4.
When rooting "bad" chip, root.sh method will not work with >99% probability. You can only root "bad" chip with gfree.
If you read some more ("recently discovered dangers" thread in Development, and another zillion of threads in General and Q&A with the same annoying questions), you'll discover that gfree ISN'T the cause of failure for "bad" chips.
To use gfree, you'll most probably need to downgrade. Read the relevant thread in G2 section. Link - in Glacier Wiki, under "Root", "Gingerbread".

btw I was able to Root my Bro's MT4G with visionary r14 on the perm root option and It is still working fine today....

Perm root on visionary does not work unless you're S-Off.
With the "bad chip" there is no way to get S-Off without gfree.
I call B.S.
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xmc wildchild22 said:
Hey guys I'm back from the MT4GS forums on behalf of my bro,
So he's visiting from college, and he wanted me to root his phone. So I checked his emmc before I started and he had the bad one
well I know there is no thought of even using gfree (what i used). So could I use Visionary or maybe even Revolutionary?
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I've been rooted, gfree, bad emmc chip for about a year. No problems. And I'm a flashaholic.
Check out my site: http://www.857music.com

ok fine....but it worked :/
BTW:
After temprooting with the visionary app...I clicked attempt Perm Root.... then temp-root, then permroot....and It had to have been S-off because I changed the radio for where he lives...

xmc wildchild22 said:
ok fine....but it worked :/
BTW:
After temprooting with the visionary app...I clicked attempt Perm Root.... then temp-root, then permroot....and It had to have been S-off because I changed the radio for where he lives...
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So you were already S-Off. Flash away.
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estallings15 said:
So you were already S-Off. Flash away.
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Lol kk fail....you win

[Q] ROOTING of Vision (Desire Z) 2.3.3 Not Possible

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can figure out, there is no way of rooting the 2.3.3 version of the Desire Z?
All guides start with downgrade to exploidable firmware, and that is not possible without gaining at least temporary root access, and all previous methods are broken?
Anyone has any ideas that work?

MichaelBrandi said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can figure out, there is no way of rooting the 2.3.3 version of the Desire Z?
All guides start with downgrade to exploidable firmware, and that is not possible without gaining at least temporary root access, and all previous methods are broken?
Anyone has any ideas that work?
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Of course it is! Don't you think there would be alot more angry people lol?! You have to obtain temp root on GB then downgrade to Froyo and get S-Off. It's a pain but I just did it on my friend's Evo Shift last month.

Thank you for answering I have spend several hours, and I can't get any of the temporary root solutions to function, they all seem to be ineffective against the current version?

Follow the XDA Vision wiki method. Shouldn't have any problems. I know someone that just did it last week and worked.
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I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.

MichaelBrandi said:
I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.
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Can you go into more details? Like error code or anything? Are you sure you have adb set up properly? plus, drivers too?

If you can't get fre3vo to work (the only step which might not work, every other step is gauranteed to) use a different exploit, either zergRush or tacoroot will work.
-Nipqer

Please post up exactly what steps aren't working. Then we can try and help you
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Also Desire Z 2.3.3.
Hello guys,
I just wanted to ask, you say it is possible to root the 2.3.3. and you also said how. Actually I spent like 3 hours today by looking for the guides how to root this phone, and I am really scared to do it without previous asking.
all your responses were great, but I am really a newbie to these things, and those names you said (containing techniques how to root) didnt ring a bell in my head. Could you please just send me a link with a guide that will work?

downgrading and rooting
MichaelBrandi said:
I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.
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I rooted and modded two G2 using this method and all went flawless, I read about ADB and how to use it, I read the guide several times to understand what was going to happen.
Read read read and then root and mod. The phones that I rooted were my first and second ever, I am NOT a dev nor am I an expert by any means. My point is that again if you read the entire post before trying anything then you will be successful. My phones were both on 2.3.3 and the process is not an easy one but works well. Hats off to those who took the time and effort to write the guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 this is the link to the guide.

Thank you for your answer. In any of the threads somebody mentioned the CM´s rooting guide on wiki, I checked it out and I got the idea.
which one would you prefer? the one posted above or the CM´s?

The CM wiki is based off that xda thread.
I would recommend the xda one, as it includes flashgc (for goldcard generation), which the cm wiki doesn't.
-Nipqer
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

I have a friend that just bought an HTC Vision(G2) with 2.3.4 and he has been unable to downgrade using xda or wiki. He thinks 2.3.4 is incompatible with these methods. He is familiar with adb and previously owned a Nexus One. Anyone know if his opinion is wrong?

These methods do work.
If for some weird reason fre3vo doesn't feel like working, you can use zergRush or tacoroot to gain temp-root (which I linked in a previous post in this thread)
-Nipqer

Adb can seem scary/difficult to setup to some, but it's not at all. Adb being a tool used in the rooting/unlocking process. See my signature for a link to a guide on setting up adb.
Please stay away from any so-called one-click rooting/unlocking solutions (especially Visionary), because a lot of them don't work, and some carry a high risk of bricking your phone. There is absolutely no risk of bricking your phone if you carefully follow the XDA Wiki guide. Read it first, and feel free to ask questions if you're not sure about something.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

LikeaG2root said:
I have a friend that just bought an HTC Vision(G2) with 2.3.4 and he has been unable to downgrade using xda or wiki. He thinks 2.3.4 is incompatible with these methods. He is familiar with adb and previously owned a Nexus One. Anyone know if his opinion is wrong?
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It can be done and quite easily (took a while but it was very smooth). I did it on my friend's EVO Shift recently with 2.3.4 which is very close to our devices (an uglier cousin one might say lol). Sometimes if you get stuck, it helps to take a break. Also, don't over complicate things. Commands while using adb have to be precise. I suggest using copy and paste. Also double check you commands before hitting enter. I am quite sure 2.3.4 still works with frevo. Maybe his drivers are mixed up. That's usually what it is. Make sure you can get all your functions to work before rooting like usb tethering and whatnot.