visionary - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im sure that this question has probably been asked but here goes.
If I root using visionary, would that be the same as the gfree method? Im talking about permroot
Also I heard that in visionary there is an 'unroot now' option is that true?

Concorde380 said:
Im sure that this question has probably been asked but here goes.
If I root using visionary, would that be the same as the gfree method? Im talking about permroot
Also I heard that in visionary there is an 'unroot now' option is that true?
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The MyTouch4G, as well as many other HTC devices, has a security protocol in place. That is what we are referring to when we say "s-on/s-off" the perma-root option on VISIONary will not turn that off. Option94, who is great developer, said that his team couldn't come up with a one touch root process for this phone. with that being said you must you either use the ./gfree or the root.sh method to root your phones. I have links to both in my signature.
However, and i don't mean to come across as rude.
I would step back from jumping in the "root pool" and look around and study. Rooting your phone doesn't put you in any certain level, or any class of Android users. You need to know the very basics, and what they do. There is a-lot of information out there. Take your time, read up, and study the process before attempting anything. It's pretty clear this is your first root, and it appears you didn't even attempt to read a rooting process for this phone. You just search for one click root and found VISIONary and ./gfree, and ./gfree scared you off, most likely due to the ADB commands. I have a link in my signature to a thread where T_B Drew has set up a very simple way to set up your ADB and get you rolling. Start there, it's a good launch point. Once you are done with that check out the "post your eMMC serial number" thread in the General section and see what chip set you have, and the downfall of rooting a phone with a bad, or maybe "good" chip.

Concorde380 said:
Im sure that this question has probably been asked but here goes.
If I root using visionary, would that be the same as the gfree method? Im talking about permroot
Also I heard that in visionary there is an 'unroot now' option is that true?
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you can't perm root with visionary alone, you need to use the root.sh method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
visionary root.sh is the safer way to root your device.
the next way is the gfree method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
the differences: visionary/root.sh method gives you label s-off, and changes your bootloader to eng hboot.
gfree however, gives you radio s-off (you can flash eng hboot if you want), super CID, and SIMUNLOCK your device, so you can use other carrier's SIM cards (i e ATT)
but first, check your eMMC chip type http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
if your chip is an M4G2DE, i highly recommend you not root, as the chip will die.

neidlinger said:
However, and i don't mean to come across as rude.
I would step back from jumping in the "root pool" and look around and study. Rooting your phone doesn't put you in any certain level, or any class of Android users. You need to know the very basics, and what they do. There is a-lot of information out there. Take your time, read up, and study the process before attempting anything. It's pretty clear this is your first root, and it appears you didn't even attempt to read a rooting process for this phone. You just search for one click root and found VISIONary, but didn't find the proper way to s-off.
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I am actually just trying to get ask the facts straight so that I don't brick my phone.i have done alot of reading.
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I have the other chip
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Concorde380 said:
I am actually just trying to get ask the facts straight so that I don't brick my phone.i have done alot of reading.
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Well that's a good start. But you would of seen in the thread for the ./gfree method that you need to replace a specific file to unroot your phone using the ./gfree method. So no the VISIONary.apk will not unroot your device for you. You must replace the file it puts on your SDcard.

Thanks.by the way I've also seen hours of videos on how to unroot.
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Concorde380 said:
I have the other chip
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so you have SEM04G?
if you do, happy rooting

Yes I do
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it's better to root with the visionary/root.sh method
it's safer

which version should i use, 14,13,12,11,10 because in my readingsi've seen that you have to use version 12 because the others don't work

Concorde380 said:
which version should i use, 14,13,12,11,10 because in my readingsi've seen that you have to use version 12 because the others don't work
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"you" as in me?
yea, i think i used v12, but honestly, it doesn't really matter, v14 just gives you more options

By you I mean all of you xda members

saranhai said:
"you" as in me?
yea, i think i used v12, but honestly, it doesn't really matter, v14 just gives you more options
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No, it does matter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138032

yea.. it doesn't really matter what version you use, use the one that works

saranhai said:
yea.. it doesn't really matter what version you use, use the one that works
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Since some obviously don't work on the MT4G, I would say what version you use does matter. What are you going to do with a version does doesn't work?

TeeJay3800 said:
Since some obviously don't work on the MT4G, I would say what version you use does matter. What are you going to do with a version does doesn't work?
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i see where @saranhai is coming from. I've personally never had problems with r14. But i will state i've see alot of people claim r14 is FUBAR'd.
better to use r11 to avoid redownloading, reinstalling when/if r11 doesn't work.

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Rooting the G2? A little help kinda confused with things.

Hey guys ill be joining this side of the forums now on monday and I'm really excited. Just I'm kinda confused about a few things and I was wondering if anyone could help enlighten a few things for me.
I know what Root is, S-off, Cid yada yada and I'm not new to rooting at all. I have adb and etc and I kinda want to do this on ubuntu because my vista is kind of janky at times.
Now apparently there is Temporary Root and Permanent Root and of course I want Permanent root, s-off, etc.
1.Now from what I read there has been apparently an update that updated the G2 to 1.22 or something like that? I read its rootable apparently but you need a windows application called gfree or something? Is this possible to do using just ubuntu?
2. Now to obtain root, s-off etc do I have to obtain temporary root first, then permanent root? Its kinda confusing coming in a noob to this device and trying to figure this all out. And do the methods vary with which firmwire your phone comes with? I'm assuming mines will come with the newest OTA since I'm receiving it Monday.
3. Also from what I'm seeing apparently having S-off and root and what not matters on what rom your running also? I don't want to flash a rom then end up loosing root or something. And Noo I DO NOT want to stay stock once I obtain root. I'm kind of a flashoholic.
Thanks to anyone willing to help I really appreciate it.
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gfree is a program rum on your phone... it "sets you 'G'2 free"... but i had a lot of problems getting gfree to work with the new g2 i got in the mail... check out my post on cyanogen... this is how i got root and latest radio img's... its under forums and htc desire z / g2... how to fix a bricked g2 and root a g2 another way...
Visionary way was mad easy for me. Check out unlockr.com for it
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GhostZini said:
Visionary way was mad easy for me. Check out unlockr.com for it
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Link to it?
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Shaquiel Harris said:
Link to it?
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Here this link has the video links in it for the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10244704&postcount=2
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joemm said:
Here this link has the video links in it for the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10244704&postcount=2
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Shouldn't yall warn him about using VISIONary first? SOMETIMES, no NOT all the time but SOMETIMES people get stuck in a boot loop from using the VISIONary method. I would not recommended it, if you have know how to use ADB, use it. I'm pretty sure that they have ADB for Linux because they do have the Android SDK on Linux(at least I think they do). All you need to do in order to root with the safer/recommended way is ADB. All you have to do is ADB Push some files to your phone then run them on your phone's Terminal Emulator App, its pretty simple. Though I have not personally rooted a G2 yet(I get mine tomorrow) but I have spent at least a week learning about how to root the G2.
Check out the wiki, explains how to root using rage+gfree.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
I followed these instructions and rooted my phone fairly easily.
KoolKidsKlub said:
Shouldn't yall warn him about using VISIONary first? SOMETIMES, no NOT all the time but SOMETIMES people get stuck in a boot loop from using the VISIONary method. I would not recommended it, if you have know how to use ADB, use it. I'm pretty sure that they have ADB for Linux because they do have the Android SDK on Linux(at least I think they do). All you need to do in order to root with the safer/recommended way is ADB. All you have to do is ADB Push some files to your phone then run them on your phone's Terminal Emulator App, its pretty simple. Though I have not personally rooted a G2 yet(I get mine tomorrow) but I have spent at least a week learning about how to root the G2.
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First of all follow the link I gave him, did you bother to do that, there was a warning, second of all I've helped a lot of people root following the videos and have had zero bricks as long as they do everything I posted in the link, third I rooted this way with zero problems, when people brick their phones its not visionary that bricks phones it people that think they know how to properly use visionary when they don't that bricks phones, its not just pressing the " attempt perm root" button to root your phone, you have to press certain settings in order to use it right.
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joemm said:
First of all read the entire link I gave him, there was a warning, second of all I've helped a lot of people root following the videos and have had zero bricks as long as they do everything I posted in the link, third I rooted this way with zero problems, when people brick their phones its not visionary that bricks phones it people that think they know how to properly use visionary when they don't that bricks phones, its not just pressing the " attempt perm root" button to root your phone, you have to press certain settings in order to use it right.
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You may be right, but all the bricks that I have seen on this forum are from people using the VISIONary app. I haven't seen a single person brick using the Rage and GFree method.
KoolKidsKlub said:
You may be right, but all the bricks that I have seen on this forum are from people using the VISIONary app. I haven't seen a single person brick using the Rage and GFree method.
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I've seen bootloops from people using rage and gfree too, guess you better search a little harder since your gonna attempt perm root tommorow.
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joemm said:
I've seen bootloops from people using rage and gfree too, guess you better search a little harder since your gonna attempt perm root tommorow.
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Alright and how would one fix a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree? I have searched before but I never found anything on it.
EDIT: And if you could, please show me some links with people stuck in a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree, I would like to read it and learn from their mistakes so that I don't do them.
KoolKidsKlub said:
Alright and how would one fix a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree? I have searched before but I never found anything on it.
EDIT: And if you could, please show me some links with people stuck in a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree, I would like to read it and learn from their mistakes so that I don't do them.
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When I get home i'll find the links for you, and you know I got to hand it to you, at least you do research and learn before you even got your phone, I wish more people would take the same approach as you.
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Im rooted and done, Just got the phone today....used this method on this wiki..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Well I'm doing research on it as well. thanks you guys for your resposes. I love this community people actually attempt to help. Trust guys I did my research and all that so I'm not a noob. Just a noob to this device that's all.
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david279 said:
Im rooted and done, Just got the phone today....used this method on this wiki..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
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hey david279, which radio(bandbase) did you have on your new G2 when you rooted with GFree?
Hmm just to make shure. I obtain root first, then use that gfree app on my rooted vision to get sim unlock, s-off etc?
Never mind just read it. This is actually really simple. *facepalm* sorry guys for the thread space ill get my topic removed.
I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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david279 said:
I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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Thanks, just confirming that 26.03.02.26 was still rootable with the wiki root instructions, there seems to be some confusion about if you can still root the 26.03.02.26 radio with the wiki, and you just confirmed that you still can.
Thanks Again, and happy flashing.
Rooting this phone reminded me of when I had a hero. That simple. I got a evo too and that was something to root when it first was released.
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david279 said:
I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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Exactly the info I was looking for I will be rooting later today.

Root help!

First time rooter here and was wondering if there is a simple way to go by doing this. I know there is visionary and gfree method. But my issue is that if I need to unroot (say I need to exchange it out for another one if something goes wrong) which one is the best to go by or is there an even more simpler way? Or do I need to even unroot? Like in other words, will they not care if it is rooted or not? I also have the monthly $5 warranty if that helps.
Thanx
P.s. How likely are the chances of me bricking the phone?
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This method (Click Here ) is the simplest with the LEAST chance of bricking your phone. (make sure to follow the link at the bottom of the page).
Now the good thing is if you use that method and do not flash the engineering screen "unrooting" the phone can be done the very same way. You will need the "unroot.sh" file script (Which can be downloaded from here) to do that but is very possible.
gfree method is reverse-able I think. you need to back up the file(s) made during gfree process.
leo221 said:
gfree method is reverse-able I think. you need to back up the file(s) made during gfree process.
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It is reversible. but the root.sh method is much easier for one worried about bricking a device.
that all depends on what you plan on doing with your rooted phone. if you wanna flash roms and all that fun stuff a temp root will not turn s=off so it wont work. the gfree method is the only root method i could get to work on mine and i tried all of them.
dennis- said:
that all depends on what you plan on doing with your rooted phone. if you wanna flash roms and all that fun stuff a temp root will not turn s=off so it wont work. the gfree method is the only root method i could get to work on mine and i tried all of them.
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If you have a problem with the root.sh script method of rooting your phone SOMETHING (more times than not, it's the user) is seriously jacked.
The root.sh will turn s=off easily and painlessly. it will allow you do do what ever you want to do in a rooted state minus flashing splash screen. Which you need an Engineering HBoot for that. Even the ./gfree method will not flash that it has to manually be done.
I had my s=off prior to leaving the T-Mobile store the day i bought my MyTouchHD using the root.sh method.
i would be willing to unroot my phone back to a stock format and reroot & flash CM7 with that method if you would like me to, and let you see via youtube.
Like I said, im kinda new at this and a vid would be really helpful to the best root for me. Also I wanted to root my phone so I can get gingerbread on it (phone ruins alot smoother from what I hear) and is it a difficult process to unroot from a permroot through visionary plus.
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=hFOi6fYbnu0
(cant post outside links cuz I'm new here) :\
tell me if this is legit please (for the root and unroot) and that if it is worth doing.
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fazelove said:
Like I said, im kinda new at this and a vid would be really helpful to the best root for me. Also I wanted to root my phone so I can get gingerbread on it (phone ruins alot smoother from what I hear) and is it a difficult process to unroot from a permroot through visionary plus.
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=hFOi6fYbnu0
(cant post outside links cuz I'm new here) :\
tell me if this is legit please (for the root and unroot) and that if it is worth doing.
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if you follow the method i posted above from TheUnlockr you will not have any problems. Like i said that way is pretty much impossible to brick the phone.
Thanx
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Is there a video I could follow, more a visual type of guy
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fazelove said:
Is there a video I could follow, more a visual type of guy
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The Unlockr's page should have a flashed based video on the page.

Rooting New Gingerbread release

Well it is now official that gingerbread has been leak/released for our G2 and I'm sure lot of us who had soft bricks are happy to know we can unbrick it and now to our next problem rooting it
I have tried 2 ways so far first is the wiki way with psneutur and gfree, and other is temp root with visionary
My results for both came negative,
Gfree/ psneutur gave me permission denied after I pushed it in
Visionary jus gave me black screen
And gingerbreak requirs s-off
So let's gather info and or figure out a way to root new gingerbread if any tried downgrade method let all us know with steps what you did
Here is the info for new gingerbread
Ship s-on
Hboot 0.82.0008
Radio 26.08.04.30M3
eMMC-boot
Apr 13 2011,
So hope we can find solution to root and we can get custom roms back on it
you need to try to gain temproot with gingerbreak. can you please come over #g2root ?
I just said I tempted and it just stuck on trying to root nothing happen and I will go what irc server? Freenode?
Let's wait for an update from paul on visionary
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androidfeen809 said:
Let's wait for an update from paul on visionary
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I dont know about that...once you put out something that bricks a ton of phones, i tend not to trust it ever again...
xsteven77x said:
I dont know about that...once you put out something that bricks a ton of phones, i tend not to trust it ever again...
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Well... I've never used any method but Unforgivens Method. Well hopefully we find a new way to root it.
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lainvalenajr said:
Well... I've never used any method but Unforgivens Method. Well hopefully we find a new way to root it.
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Visionary (as evidence by the sticky at the top of the dev phone saying DONT USE VISIONARY TO PERM ROOT) has bricked many a phones that have only now been able to be fixed. I think its just a trust issue and comes to down to each individual and what they personally think and believe I personally would never use visionary again no matter how many times its updated or "fixed". The trust has been broken.
Idk why there's hate on visionary... I rooted my phone the second day the process was released and I've never had an issue since...? And I've rooted 2 other g2s well after and still never had any issues... just followed instructions. I understand it can brick your phone, but then again... was it really visionary that bricked it? Or was it an user error placing blame?? Just saying....
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yeah i rooted my g2 using the visionary method and have had no issues. and it seems like a lot of the bricking has occurred since i rooted, so i dont get it.
i did visionary root with success, but put yourself in the other end of ppls shoes who did use visinary an you get a brick and no way out of it, other than have gfree with jus pushing, and everythign else is done for you, i would go that route than a higher chance of bricking,
But this thread is not bout bricking this is about how to obtain root on the new stock rom that is out
Yes please! if anyone finds out how to root the G2 with stock Gingerbread could you please post! thanks in advance!
shady503403 said:
Idk why there's hate on visionary... I rooted my phone the second day the process was released and I've never had an issue since...? And I've rooted 2 other g2s well after and still never had any issues... just followed instructions. I understand it can brick your phone, but then again... was it really visionary that bricked it? Or was it an user error placing blame?? Just saying....
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user error? lol in a one-click root... maybe they were pressing the top right corner of the button and that's their error lol
I don't know, either, but there has to be some reasonable explanation, doesn't there? After all, many people (myself included) had no trouble rooting with Visionary. OTOH, this is my second G2 - the first went back under warranty. With the first one, Visionary was unsuccessful at perm-rooting. This one, worked on the first try. Odd? Computers are NOT supposed to behave randomly - so why the difference?
when someone comes up with the visionary source, there are people that can understand it. until then it's a black box.
+1
I'm in the same boat. I just got a brand new G2 off craigslist, and was very happy to see that it had gingerbread. But to my extreme dissappointment, I cannot root it or downgrade it to gain root. Below are the things I have tried and didnt work.
Visionary
Gingerbreak (v1,0, 1.1, 1.2)
Rage
Super One-click
Z4Root
Androot
Gold card, for downgrading, also tried Gold card with above root methods.
I have also tried taking the stock Froyo PC10IMG and modified the info txt to read it as a newer version, and it loaded it, checked it, then just went back to the bootloader screen like there was no image there at all. Last night I was thinking that if I pulled the internal battery (the little tiny one) then it would lose its info, allowing me to load any PC10IMG I wanted. NOPE. Rom and all its info and settings are still intact. Weird, cuz I thought that's what that little battery was for. So, I'm out of options. I love the rom, it's fast as hell and the battery life is far better than when I had my last G2. I just wanna overclock, add some sounds without using Zedge or something (want internal mods that arent dependant on memory using apps), and do some theming. Oh, and removing that horrible pink bloat >:]
I just know that our awesome Devs will come up with something.
XDA ROCKS!!!!!
Waiting?!
Any updates regarding the root?
I tried everything, and nothing works.
I even tried to resend it to the repair center to get froyo, they returned it back saying that they could no longer Downgrade it!
well this is my argument, you can call them and ask them for one that is froyo
complain to them that you have netflix and paying for a service to use on your phone reason why you got it, and since "THEY" updated and made it unsuably they are obligated to give you one that can use netflix or a replacement that can use it as they have done something that was not confirmed with you if you sent it for simple repair, you did not get your phone back to how it was you got something different...
start this fight you will probably end up with a mytouch 4g
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...Last night I was thinking that if I pulled the internal battery (the little tiny one) then it would lose its info, allowing me to load any PC10IMG I wanted. NOPE. Rom and all its info and settings are still intact. Weird, cuz I thought that's what that little battery was for.
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Hi!
The config options that you would have to change are written to the emmc on partition17 (main version) or partition7 (S-OFF, SuperCID, SIM-Lock) so that will not change if you pull any kind of battery.
The only chance to root this rom is that we find a new temp-root method and then do the usual things (misc_version, goldcard, downgrade, gfree, ...)
I do not expect that someone publishes a new temp-root before either T-Mobile/HTC rolled out the OTA or a different device running 2.3.4 really needs it.
Have fun - Guhl
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Hi!
The config options that you would have to change are written to the emmc on partition17 (main version) or partition7 (S-OFF, SuperCID, SIM-Lock) so that will not change if you pull any kind of battery.
The only chance to root this rom is that we find a new temp-root method and then do the usual things (misc_version, goldcard, downgrade, gfree, ...)
I do not expect that someone publishes a new temp-root before either T-Mobile/HTC rolled out the OTA or a different device running 2.3.4 really needs it.
Have fun - Guhl
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Damnit WE really need it!
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Damnit WE really need it!
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Either demand it now and be greedy, or wait and it will be universal. =]

Trying to root

Ive rooted 3 phones before the one i am doing now. I am useing the same files, visonary, and this phone will not allow temp root. i did a full factory reset and still not allowing. what could be making this happen??? Thanks sorry wont let me post in development section
the bad eMMC chip....visionary (root.sh) only works with the good chips, while gfree method is used for both the good and bad chips. give the gfree method a try if youre having problems http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
also look here first to see if you have the bad chip or not http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
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the bad eMMC chip....visionary (root.sh) only works with the good chips, while gfree method is used for both the good and bad chips. give the gfree method a try if youre having problems http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
also look here first to see if you have the bad chip or not http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
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Keep in mind with a rooted phone and a bad eMMC, you are using a ticking time bomb. Keep in mind the phone will fail [brick], it might not be now, it might not be a week but it will happen.
That's not true... It will only fail if you don't know what you are doing and that could happen w a good chip too ... When u root via gfree, proceed to also flash the 85. 2007 ENG bootloader
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That's not true... It will only fail if you don't know what you are doing and that could happen w a good chip too ... When u root via gfree, proceed to also flash the 85. 2007 ENG bootloader
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There are well educated, when it comes to Android, people all over the Internets when it comes to this phone going FUBAR due to a faulty eMMC chipset.
If the chip set is bad it's a ticking timebomb.
That's an opinion that anyone is entitled to but I am speaking purely based on personal experience... I have rooted many phones with both good and bad chips, none of which have ever had in any problems... And based on actual results the phone with a "bad" eMMC chip holds max overclock much better and easier than my phone with a good chip... I was one who went back to stock on the bad chip without flashing stock radio and everyone said it was the end of the world and it would never have s off again... However after editing the misc. Img in mmcblk0p17 with hex editor I now have s off... So it just depends on who's flashing the phone
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I was using the gfree method to root the phone the problem is trying to get temp root it stayed on the visonary screen, trying to temp root and stayed that way over night, never was able to temp root to even get started. i tried visonary + and ver. 11 also. so not sure were to go from here
Use visionary 14. Check only the second and third boxes then click temproot. Run commands through Android terminal emulator.
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Use visionary 14. Check only the second and third boxes then click temproot. Run commands through Android terminal emulator.
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tried that. same thing. oh well should i send the phone in for a "warrenty" problem and get a new one ????
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Use visionary 14. Check only the second and third boxes then click temproot. Run commands through Android terminal emulator.
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tried that. same thing. oh well should i send the phone in for a "warrenty" problem and get a new one ????
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Check this out, i would be willing to bet this will work. It sounds much more difficult than it actually is. Just follow the steps and it will be simple.. i downloaded HEX QL editor which is free and super easy to use.... the version number that u need to edit is on the furthest right side (misc.img). The directions below are easy to follow and worked for me to get s off and root when it seemed impossible. Long story short, you will pull the misc.img to your sdcard and then plug phone into computer and open the misc.img on sdcard using the hex editor. Change the version number and save that file as miscnew.img and place on sdcard. Important to remember that the version you will be flashing is unable to obtain root however gfree and visionary will still carry out the proper root process you just wont notice permroot until a custom rom is flashed....i realized this after running the gfree process at least 8 times lmao . Ask any questions u have that are unclear from this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-832642.html
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Check the bootloaders, if its the .85 use Visonary method and if its .86 the gfree method will work.
forget visionary r14 and go with r11 that version will work 100%
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none of the visonary versions work at all. not sure what to do.
Most probably you have Gingerbread on your MT4G, or you're talking about Panache, and forgot to mention those facts.
Please go and check Android OS version in Settings/About.

[Q] Root Methods: Gfree vs. Visionary?

Hey all,
Now that I have my HTC Sensation, I feel more at ease perma-rooting my MT4G and playing with it (read too many threads about bricks and problems to feel comfortable with it before). Question though...
Which method to use? The invasive Gfree for TRUE S=Off or the less-invasive Visionary method with LABEL S=Off? I was going to opt for the Gfree, but suddenly I'm reading about all kinds of issues with it.
So what's the consensus? Are most people using Gfree now and I just happen to be reading the vocal minority of those who've had issues?
themoebius said:
Hey all,
Now that I have my HTC Sensation, I feel more at ease perma-rooting my MT4G and playing with it (read too many threads about bricks and problems to feel comfortable with it before). Question though...
Which method to use? The invasive Gfree for TRUE S=Off or the less-invasive Visionary method with LABEL S=Off? I was going to opt for the Gfree, but suddenly I'm reading about all kinds of issues with it.
So what's the consensus? Are most people using Gfree now and I just happen to be reading the vocal minority of those who've had issues?
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Go with the root.sh method and get the .85 bootloader.
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+ 1...try visionary with root.sh first...sometimes it doesn't work and then you will ned to do gfree-just make sure you follow the steps to get the engineering bootloader as that can come in handy down the road. Also you should probably check which emmc chip you have first cause if you have the "bad" one, you may want to think twice about rooting...
Check for which emmc you have first to save time. If it's the bad one then go straight for gfree. If not then go for root.sh.
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visionary+
Thanks guys! Looks like I have the SEM04G chip... if I'm reading correctly that should be the GOOD chip and I should be clear to use the Visionary + root.sh method correct?
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Thanks guys! Looks like I have the SEM04G chip... if I'm reading correctly that should be the GOOD chip and I should be clear to use the Visionary + root.sh method correct?
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It should work then.
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themoebius said:
Thanks guys! Looks like I have the SEM04G chip... if I'm reading correctly that should be the GOOD chip and I should be clear to use the Visionary + root.sh method correct?
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not certainly. I have the same chip, and root.sh method was failing at the beginning, with an error regarding wpx.ko
So I had to use Gfree, and it worked
Funny you should mention it, but the root.sh method does not appear to be working for me either after multiple attempts. It's likely I am getting the same "error" you were, about the wpx.ko saying "Not implemented", but I read that was normal so, oh well. Was about to say to hell with it and try the gfree method. Is there any real reason NOT to use gfree?
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Funny you should mention it, but the root.sh method does not appear to be working for me either after multiple attempts. It's likely I am getting the same "error" you were, about the wpx.ko saying "Not implemented", but I read that was normal so, oh well. Was about to say to hell with it and try the gfree method. Is there any real reason NOT to use gfree?
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Nope gfree is great, you should get the Eng. Bootloader though.
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