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[Q] rooting MT4G

hey guys
so today i got my replacement MT4G from t mobile (my old one broke M4G2DE emmc chip, recovery errors.. etc).
so i checked the emmc chip on my new one and i got SEM04G (woot!!).
since i have the "good" chip, does that mean that im safe to root and not have any errors or encounter any problems?
thx

I have same chip no problems rooting for me.
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Where do u check for the chip cuz i can't root my sisters phone and she got it a week ago
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saranhai said:
hey guys
so today i got my replacement MT4G from t mobile (my old one broke M4G2DE emmc chip, recovery errors.. etc).
so i checked the emmc chip on my new one and i got SEM04G (woot!!).
since i have the "good" chip, does that mean that im safe to root and not have any errors or encounter any problems?
thx
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you should be good to go, as long as you flash things properly and READ everything just to make sure lol. I have the good chip but I fudged up somewhere so I can only blame myself for my issue

mrbuddhasr said:
Where do u check for the chip cuz i can't root my sisters phone and she got it a week ago
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here is the thread, check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243

Should be able to root with visionary instead of gfree on that chip. avoid the problems that peeps are pointing at with gfree/bad chip

eqjunkie829 said:
Should be able to root with visionary instead of gfree on that chip. avoid the problems that peeps are pointing at with gfree/bad chip
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so the visionary method is the "safe" one rite?
and also... does visionary give u SIM unlock too?
lol sry noob here xP
and also... can i flash eng hboot after visionary root?

saranhai said:
so the visionary method is the "safe" one rite?
and also... does visionary give u SIM unlock too?
lol sry noob here xP
and also... can i flash eng hboot after visionary root?
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Visionary does not unlock the Sim, Gfree will. I also have the good chip and rooted with Visionary but want the Sim unlock. I'm just nervous to try Gfree as everything is working perfect right now and I don't want to screw anything up.

Coppo said:
rooted with Visionary
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Both methods use visionary - you mean you rooted with the root.sh method and not the gfree method.

I tried the root.sh and it won't work I think it has a bad chip and it sucks cuz this can mess up for me on the future if I had to get a replacement phone btw I alreadu have a rooted mt4g. I was just trying to root another one
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hey so can anyone tell me...
how did ppl start getting recovery cache errors?
was it because of bad eMMC chip?
or something that they flashed wrong?
i rooted with VISIONARY root.sh...
soo am i safe?
i rly dont want to start getting those errors again.. lol

[Q] Quick Question???

OK i just got this phone today and want to get miui demonspeed on it. I know i have to root and all that but not sure whats guides to read exactly. I have a vibrant thats rooted and with miui as well but not to sure on the mytouc. What exactly do i ahve to do to get my mytouc right out of the box to miui. Thank you.

well if you know you have to root i guess your on the right track. Id say check out the post on the good emmc vs the bad one (in the general section) and determine which you have first. If its the bad one then you'll prolly not want to root at all.
If its the good one then you'll need to
1.perm root
2.flash clockwork
3.backup everything
4.wipe
5.flash Miui
6.Sit back and enjoy

OK i have the m42gde...What does that mean for me?

Pixa241 said:
OK i have the m42gde...What does that mean for me?
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1.You have the bad chip/EMMc not the good one from ol sammy
2.You 'll need to use gfree method, visionary doesnt work...
3.That chip is prone to hi rates of failure check forum and brothers of MT4G...
4. Be extra careful with flashing
5. After you're rooted, you just flash the rom like on your sammy

Pixa241 said:
OK i have the m42gde...What does that mean for me?
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M4G2DE..
well your only luck is if you can root using visionary root.sh
http://forum.androidcentral.com/mytouch-4g-rooting-roms-hacks/56011-guide-how-root-your-mytouch-4g.html
if this doesn't work, then sorry bro, your out of luck
the gfree method will mess up your eMMC chip

Ok so I use the visionary root to root or gfree kuz both you guys said differsnt ones....and where is a tutorial for the sxact root I need??

saranhai said:
M4G2DE..
well your only luck is if you can root using visionary root.sh
http://forum.androidcentral.com/mytouch-4g-rooting-roms-hacks/56011-guide-how-root-your-mytouch-4g.html
if this doesn't work, then sorry bro, your out of luck
the gfree method will mess up your eMMC chip
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This is a false statement, as there has already been a case of completely stock M4G2DE chip failing with no root whatsoever - which means, whether you root it by root.sh or by gfree, it'll still be prone to failure.
The root guides are in Development section.

Jack_R1 said:
This is a false statement, as there has already been a case of completely stock M4G2DE chip failing with no root whatsoever - which means, whether you root it by root.sh or by gfree, it'll still be prone to failure.
The root guides are in Development section.
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OK little problem i succesfully rooted it with s-off and enginerring boot but i restarted my phone and for some reason it started up like when i first opended with the setup and all that and all the terminal and visioner and my root explorer were gone so i reinstalled them and now when i go into terminal it says access denied but if i fast boot it still tells me s-off ....very confused and help?

Pixa241 said:
OK little problem i succesfully rooted it with s-off and enginerring boot but i restarted my phone and for some reason it started up like when i first opended with the setup and all that and all the terminal and visioner and my root explorer were gone so i reinstalled them and now when i go into terminal it says access denied but if i fast boot it still tells me s-off ....very confused and help?
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Then you may have s-off but not root, if you used visionary, just perm root again from the menu
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Pixa241 said:
OK little problem i succesfully rooted it with s-off and enginerring boot but i restarted my phone and for some reason it started up like when i first opended with the setup and all that and all the terminal and visioner and my root explorer were gone so i reinstalled them and now when i go into terminal it says access denied but if i fast boot it still tells me s-off ....very confused and help?
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yea.. you only have s-off
go to visionary and attempt a perm root

Got it all fixed....I think lol because I am now miui demonspeed so yeah thanks for all the help
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Pixa241 said:
Got it all fixed....I think lol because I am now miui demonspeed so yeah thanks for all the help
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Awesome! Welcome to the club!
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Pixa241 said:
Got it all fixed....I think lol because I am now miui demonspeed so yeah thanks for all the help
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good job

Haha thanks...I knew I would be able to get...just needed a little guidance....this miui is even sweeter on this mytouch
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[Q] Root Methods: Gfree vs. Visionary?

Hey all,
Now that I have my HTC Sensation, I feel more at ease perma-rooting my MT4G and playing with it (read too many threads about bricks and problems to feel comfortable with it before). Question though...
Which method to use? The invasive Gfree for TRUE S=Off or the less-invasive Visionary method with LABEL S=Off? I was going to opt for the Gfree, but suddenly I'm reading about all kinds of issues with it.
So what's the consensus? Are most people using Gfree now and I just happen to be reading the vocal minority of those who've had issues?

themoebius said:
Hey all,
Now that I have my HTC Sensation, I feel more at ease perma-rooting my MT4G and playing with it (read too many threads about bricks and problems to feel comfortable with it before). Question though...
Which method to use? The invasive Gfree for TRUE S=Off or the less-invasive Visionary method with LABEL S=Off? I was going to opt for the Gfree, but suddenly I'm reading about all kinds of issues with it.
So what's the consensus? Are most people using Gfree now and I just happen to be reading the vocal minority of those who've had issues?
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Go with the root.sh method and get the .85 bootloader.
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+ 1...try visionary with root.sh first...sometimes it doesn't work and then you will ned to do gfree-just make sure you follow the steps to get the engineering bootloader as that can come in handy down the road. Also you should probably check which emmc chip you have first cause if you have the "bad" one, you may want to think twice about rooting...

Check for which emmc you have first to save time. If it's the bad one then go straight for gfree. If not then go for root.sh.
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visionary+

Thanks guys! Looks like I have the SEM04G chip... if I'm reading correctly that should be the GOOD chip and I should be clear to use the Visionary + root.sh method correct?

themoebius said:
Thanks guys! Looks like I have the SEM04G chip... if I'm reading correctly that should be the GOOD chip and I should be clear to use the Visionary + root.sh method correct?
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It should work then.
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themoebius said:
Thanks guys! Looks like I have the SEM04G chip... if I'm reading correctly that should be the GOOD chip and I should be clear to use the Visionary + root.sh method correct?
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not certainly. I have the same chip, and root.sh method was failing at the beginning, with an error regarding wpx.ko
So I had to use Gfree, and it worked

Funny you should mention it, but the root.sh method does not appear to be working for me either after multiple attempts. It's likely I am getting the same "error" you were, about the wpx.ko saying "Not implemented", but I read that was normal so, oh well. Was about to say to hell with it and try the gfree method. Is there any real reason NOT to use gfree?

themoebius said:
Funny you should mention it, but the root.sh method does not appear to be working for me either after multiple attempts. It's likely I am getting the same "error" you were, about the wpx.ko saying "Not implemented", but I read that was normal so, oh well. Was about to say to hell with it and try the gfree method. Is there any real reason NOT to use gfree?
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Nope gfree is great, you should get the Eng. Bootloader though.
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Hello I need help roothing

Well like the title said .i have tried to root the htc glacier/my touch 4g . I have tried every thing exept the gfree one cause I hear that it has some problems.. Anyways I cant make my s=off . I have the 0.86.0000 bootloader and I was woundering if that could be the problem ... I have 2.2.1 . Thank you .
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Rooted two mytouches with gfree never had a problem bro. Try considering gfree as an option if it all fails. There is even a video about it on YouTube.
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HC13 said:
Well like the title said .i have tried to root the htc glacier/my touch 4g . I have tried every thing exept the gfree one cause I hear that it has some problems.. Anyways I cant make my s=off . I have the 0.86.0000 bootloader and I was woundering if that could be the problem ... I have 2.2.1 . Thank you .
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If you still on 2.2.1 then you can easily root with visionary and root.sh.

Unless he has MG2DE eMMC, in which case he'll need gfree.
OP, instead of "hearing" things, read the stickies. And then use gfree.

Well If I go to the bootloader screen it reads
Gracier pvt ship s-on
Hboot-0.86.000
Microp-0429
Radio-26.03.02.26_m
Emmc-boot
Sep 27 2010, 11:12:59

Since you don't have engineering bootloader, whatever you read there is irrelevant.
I already wrote what you should do.

So can I just flash the engineering bootloader . And then just root with root.sh ?
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I have the SEMO4G eMMC....
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Jack_R1 said:
OP, instead of "hearing" things, read the stickies. And then use gfree.
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I thought it was as obvious as I could make it.

To the [OP] Since you have that chip you have to root using ./gfree. There is no other way to do it. If you try to use the root.sh method you'll end up getting ticked, posting a new thread about how root.sh doesn't work, then we'll remind you of this post. Where @Jack_R1 told you to use ./gfree. Then you'll get all mad because we are being rude, and you'll want to smack us.
So instead of doing that read my "noobie" thread, in my signature, then use the ./gfree and give us a bottle of beer since we helped you.

I have 2 MT4Gs, both rooted and flashed.
Mine wasn't updated and had the SEM04G chip. Easy to root using methods with visionary.
My wife's was 2.3.4 updated with M4G2DE chip. Downgrade was easy enough. Rooting was a pain in the neck.
I went through every option until I got to the True S=Off tutorial using gfree. Once I went through that process, I was permarooted, and then changed to eng bootloader. It can be done without bricking...it's just that much harder to do.
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My original post found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23663885&postcount=30
I did all this through searching the forums before making any kind of posts. Just a suggestion...

Sorry . I just wanted to be 100 % sure cause Rooting the mytouch 4g is way different .. I have a sidekick 4g and too root that I just had to push one bottom .. but now I know that the only way to root it is using the gfree method ...
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HC13 said:
Sorry . I just wanted to be 100 % sure cause Rooting the mytouch 4g is way different .. I have a sidekick 4g and too root that I just had to push one bottom .. but now I know that the only way to root it is using the gfree method ...
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I hate autocorrect.

HC13 said:
Sorry . I just wanted to be 100 % sure cause Rooting the mytouch 4g is way different .. I have a sidekick 4g and too root that I just had to push one bottom .. but now I know that the only way to root it is using the gfree method ...
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gfree is not the only way to permaroot the MT4G, but it's a good way to do it. I was able to get permarooted with the root.sh method with my phone. Had to try a couple of methods a couple of times each before I got to the gfree method, which finally worked for my wife's phone.
estallings15 said:
I hate autocorrect.
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You had to point that out...I didn't even notice it! LOL

Well I'm rooted now so... how do I close this thread ??
And I rooted with gfree to s-off then I unrooted but my s was still off.. then I rooted it againg but with root.sh .. then I install the engineering bootloader..

Good deal. Welcome to the world of android modding.
Leave the thread as is. Others can use it as reference.
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ok. and thanks for the help everyone. this phone is way better than the sidekick 4g witch is still stuck with froyo .. but this phone is harder to root than the sidekick 4g. thats why i wanted to make sure i understood everything before i rooted ..

HC13 said:
ok. and thanks for the help everyone. this phone is way better than the sidekick 4g witch is still stuck with froyo .. but this phone is harder to root than the sidekick 4g. thats why i wanted to make sure i understood everything before i rooted ..
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HTC phones are always harder to root than others, since they require S-Off and all that stuff. but when the hard part is complete, the rest is very simple and easy to understand.

I now know that. Lol. But I also have the hd7 and that's even harder to dev unlock "root" . But now I'm only buying htc phones. I like the UI that they have.. and they get more support from devs .. its been almost a year and the sidekick is till stuck with froyo .. they are saying that tmobile is not going to release a gb update ..

[Q] Is there any way to root 2.3.4?

By the way 2.3.4 is Gingerbread, I have a MyTouch 4G, and I have the stock ROM from T-Mobile update on it. My question is, is there anyway to root 2.3.4?
[Not Edited, but thought I should add] If there is no way to root 2.3.4, I will downgrade to 2.3.3. (If someone wants to help me with that, please, I will be glad)
Giving everyone a thanks just for commenting. Thanks in advance.

Aarrrgh![pulling hair]
I refuse to believe people will never learn. Its impossible that people just do not care to search and read.
I don't get it.

coupetastic-droid said:
Aarrrgh![pulling hair]
I refuse to believe people will never learn. Its impossible that people just do not care to search and read.
I don't get it.
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Fine,guy. I did research, just wanted to see if there is any current ways, because everything I read is from 2011 about Gingerbread not having any roots for 2.3.4. Guest ill just downgrade, thank you anyways.

And you downgrade to 2.2.1....we didn't receive a 2.3.3 update.
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you must downgrade to 2.2.1 froyo
there are "methods" to root from 2.3.4 but all don't work or will brick your phone.
most of them are the one click methods which you should avoid anyway.
downgrading only takes a sec just follow this thread to downgrade
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
then this one to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996

MamaGlue said:
you must downgrade to 2.2.1 froyo
there are "methods" to root from 2.3.4 but all don't work or will brick your phone.
most of them are the one click methods which you should avoid anyway.
downgrading only takes a sec just follow this thread to downgrade
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
then this one to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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After doing that, how do you get back to 2.3.4 without losing root privileges?

You install custom recovery and flash a pre-rooted 2.3.4 ROM.
There's always an option to remove HBOOT from the 2.3.4 PD15IMG.ZIP and flash it through HBOOT, and then install a custom recovery and flash su.zip in it. But it's a bit more complicated.

x3mandapanda said:
After doing that, how do you get back to 2.3.4 without losing root privileges?
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download a custom gingerbread rom
here is one that's pretty popular;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504718

If you are S-Off
Grab Froyo 2.2.1 zip from this forum. Make sure it is called PD15IMG.zip and place it on the root of your sdcard
Shut phone off & boot into HBoot (vol down + pwr button)
Have it load the PD15IMG.zip file and once its done your phone will be back to running Froyo.
Now grab Visionary+ & root.rar (from this forum) & a terminal emulator & a file explorer.
Put visonary+.apk on your sdcard and run it via file explorer for temp root
Extract root.sh to /sdcard/root
now load up terminal emulator and type:
su
cd /sdcard/root
sh root.sh
Let it run (takes a minute sometimes)
Once that is done go back to Visionary+ and "Perm root" reboot and you should have perm root.
Now just Clockword Rom manager and you can flash whatever ICS rom you want. (running CM9-unofficial personally)

I wish i could remove a thanks.
This will only work if the phone has a good eMMC chipset. If they have a bad one. it will not work.

neidlinger said:
I wish i could remove a thanks.
This will only work if the phone has a good eMMC chipset. If they have a bad one. it will not work.
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Not completely true. I've already rooted a few mt4g with bad chips. 2 being my girls and my brothers mt4g.

Using root.sh? Or perhaps using gfree?

coupetastic-droid said:
Not completely true. I've already rooted a few mt4g with bad chips. 2 being my girls and my brothers mt4g.
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The "bad" chip only roots with gfree. I tried root.sh. It just looked at me ans scoffed.
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estallings15 said:
The "bad" chip only roots with gfree. I tried root.sh. It just looked at me ans scoffed.
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Never used gfree since I don't own a PC. All bad chip mt4g I've rooted have been rooted within the device with visionary and root.sh method from the unlockr.

I have only ever followed the guide on XDA for ultimate S=OFF rooting guide using visionary, seems to work the best.

coupetastic-droid said:
Never used gfree since I don't own a PC. All bad chip mt4g I've rooted have been rooted within the device with visionary and root.sh method from the unlockr.
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I used gfree without a PC. Terminal emulator ftw.
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trying to root via gfee and can't get visionary to work, it just says "rooting" forever. I'm on stock Froyo... any idea?

orangekid said:
trying to root via gfee and can't get visionary to work, it just says "rooting" forever. I'm on stock Froyo... any idea?
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Gave up on root.sh? Lol. Make sure usb debugging is enabled and reboot between attempts.

Ya figured gfree was better plus Sim unlock. I did both of those. Still same thing
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orangekid said:
Ya figured gfree was better plus Sim unlock. I did both of those. Still same thing
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Are you trying to perm or temp root?
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