Xoom and android 4.0 - Xoom General

I was just reading a news article on pulse about the testing of a quad core xoom, with ice cream sandwich
Which led me to wonder, will the original xoom get 4.0 sometime after the release of such a device?
Not trying to ask for a definitive answer
I just wonder what the general consensus of peoples opinions on the xoom getting android 4.0
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I remember I saw it somewhere that Motorola is to support software upgrade for 18 months from the org Xoom release date. If that's truth, we shall see ICS on the 1st generation Xoom.

atz06 said:
I remember I saw it somewhere that Motorola is to support software upgrade for 18 months from the org Xoom release date. If that's truth, we shall see ICS on the 1st generation Xoom.
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Yes, but they said IF hardware is compatible, so they can always say it isn't.

In positive it will be, offical or otherwise. ICS is supposed to have the buttons from android 1.x and 2.x moved into a 3.x screen solution, and we do by all indicatioms have the horsepower to run it. If you think that ICS is to unify phones and tablets, I don't foresee android becoming a quad core only affair partially on phones, ut also on tablets. And we have great devs along with unlockable bootloaders, so my money says we are golden one way or another.
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"One OS that runs everywhere." So ICS will probBly come to the Xoom.
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ı believe xoom will be one of the firsts to get the ICS update.. all versions have different release dates but averagely we can say it has been released in the beginning of the march 2011.. so it has to be updateable with every new android OS which will be announced until the september of 2012..
about the hardware; there still are single cored notebooks which run windows 7 around.. i cant think of an android system that xoom can not hande with its dual core, 1gb of ram and nvidia graphic card..

Don't get me wrong, i agree that Ice Cream Sandwich should work on current Xoom. I just don't want to get my hopes too high.
If the rumor about Xoom 2 being the next GED are true then i don't see Google pushing the Ice Scream to current Xooms on release day (compatible or not). Then i will probably just buy the next Xoom from US (hoping it will have a global 3G radio this time).

I imagine it will be second to see ICS
like nexus s got gingerbread first, nexus one got it second

poisike said:
Don't get me wrong, i agree that Ice Cream Sandwich should work on current Xoom. I just don't want to get my hopes too high.
If the rumor about Xoom 2 being the next GED are true then i don't see Google pushing the Ice Scream to current Xooms on release day (compatible or not). Then i will probably just buy the next Xoom from US (hoping it will have a global 3G radio this time).
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The whole idea behind ICS is to get EVERY android device on the same OS for consistancy... This being a GED device means that there is no way it won't get it. I'm sure its not going to work on the G1, but you know what I'm sayin.
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Does google plan on updating the xoom again?

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I wish google would hint towards the future for us early adopters..
Forgetabout a new update lets see source!
Google promised updates for 18 months on new devices. http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/
First tablet to market with Android 3.0
First tablet with Android 3.1
Google has announced 4.0 Ice cream.
Hopefully we'll be the first with 4.0 too
As far as the OP I don't think the question should be about Google updating the xoom really. Google makes honeycomb so i think the real question has to be whether they will update honeycomb again before ice cream comes out. As far as I can tell once the next version of android OS comes out the previous version seems to stop being upgraded (once froyo came eclair stopped moving, froyo stopped updating with gingerbread, etc). Will honeycomb stop with ice cream? judging by the past, probably.
As far as the future of early adopters, I think the best thing to hope for is that the xoom (tegra 2) will be sufficient to run ice cream and be compatible enough that it will appear OTA directly from Google. As far the xoom being the first device to get it, I highly doubt it. Odds are a new "vanilla" device be it phone or tablet will debut the OS (also with whatever developments have been made in mobile processors since tegra2 under the hood). Yes the naked truth is that it is a fast fast moving market.
The percs offered to early xoom owners from google have been: first to get honeycomb 3.1 and guaranteed invitation/acceptance to Google music. Beyond this I don't think Google has anymore special treatment up the sleeves. And I don't immagine they are that stoked about being subtly expected to do damage control for Motorola's 4g problems.
If there does happen to be a HC 3.2 upgrade before ice cream then perhaps xoom owners may be first to get it but at any rate i immagine ice cream ends up on the xoom regardles, either through xda or Google or of course both.
And I think that is the future for xoom owners.
Edit: and just to clarify, I dont think Google exactly promised that they would update devices for 18 months, but rather that their partners have promised to update their devices to run whatever compatible android versions are released for those devices for 18 months. I.e no being stuck on froyo forever even though your phone can run gingerbread. What we would want to hear iis tthat Google promises to release compatible updates for your device for 18 months, but this isnt what they said. Plus that would pivot around device release times which isn't possible. If a new device comes at the end of an OS cycle I doubt Google will carry version for another year because one phone hopped on at the last minute. Btw sorry to be so cynical guys, just calling it as i see it
No update no sd
It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
HC 3.1 is the final version, next version is smoerrebroed 4.0.
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My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
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This is absolute FUD. You don't know that this is true, nor have there been any indications from Google/Moto that this is the case. Stop scaremongering.
raviosopr said:
ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
tumbes20000 said:
My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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US Xooms will probably get updates to ICS I guess... didn't they have a prototype of ICS at Google I/O on a Xoom?
raviosopr said:
ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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No, they said it would be merging of the Tablet and Phone - so it should be any sized screen (although that probably just ranges from phone (can't think of lowest size, but lets say for the sake of argument 3" -> tablet 10.1"
jm9843 said:
Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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I concur - that's how I read it all too
Also I imagine there may be a couple of bugfixes along the way but nothing major till ICS (4.0?)
so maybe 3.1.1, 3.1.2, probably not a 3.2 - only if there's a new feature they want to push out that is fairly big...
However - if google are responsible for the SD Card slot - then 3.2 may address that issue - else it'd probably just be a 3.1.1 update judging on how they have done updating numbering on the past...
I think Google had Moto add SD to be ready for Ice cream. Its my idea that that was the plan maybe im crazy but who knows

Will the Nexus S be receiving future Android updates?

Hi All,
I'm eyeing the Nexus S as a potential purchase in the coming days and simply wish to know if it is at all known at this time if the device will be receiving future Android Operating System updates post 2.3.4, e.g (next mobile major Android release). Will Google continue to support the device?
That is the entire point of owning a nexus device... so yes. The N1 is STILL receiving updates so you can expect the S to be receiving them for a few more years
If there's any new firmware that google will release, the Nexus S is for sure to receive it first.
Anyone have an idea when we might see another update?
I've done my fair share of googling but seem to get mixed messages so what do you guys think?
It'll get ice cream sandwich for sure
amedika said:
Anyone have an idea when we might see another update?
I've done my fair share of googling but seem to get mixed messages so what do you guys think?
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can you please site the sites you google that states a nexus phone wont get updates.
as for your answer read the posts above your last post
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cdesai said:
It'll get ice cream sandwich for sure
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I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
I doubt ice cream is designed solely for dual core phones. The Nexus line will get it for sure. The Nexus phones will probably start up to date for at least 2 years from their release.
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And ice cream will come out this fall out winter
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mikeyinid said:
I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
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That's like saying Quad core CPUs came out. Let's discontinue support for Dual Cores! No. ICS will be backwards compatible. Dual Core (or quad cores at that point) will be able to take full advantage of the OS.
zephiK said:
That's like saying Quad core CPUs came out. Let's discontinue support for Dual Cores! No. ICS will be backwards compatible. Dual Core (or quad cores at that point) will be able to take full advantage of the OS.
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guys, calm down. I did say from a rather unreliable source. I dont buy it either.
ICS might habe limitations to small screen size devices due to it's hw/sw-buttonless nature, but I don't think it'll be excluding those 800mhz+ phones released within the last 6 months. If it's exclusively for dual core, how many ICS capable devices we'd have right now, 2?
I mean "forcing" ppl to replace their not even 1y old phones for the biggest Android update ever would be a bad idea. I can only talk for myself but this might be drawing me away from Android OS (Bad comparison inc, even the iphone 3g is rumored to get iOS 5). Hope the smartphone OS market will be picking up speed again, Google seems to be slacking to me.
ICS will run on most phones.. it has been said that it will run on both high end phones and low end ones.
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rentaric said:
ICS might habe limitations to small screen size devices due to it's hw/sw-buttonless nature, but I don't think it'll be excluding those 800mhz+ phones released within the last 6 months. If it's exclusively for dual core, how many ICS capable devices we'd have right now, 2?
I mean "forcing" ppl to replace their not even 1y old phones for the biggest Android update ever would be a bad idea. I can only talk for myself but this might be drawing me away from Android OS (Bad comparison inc, even the iphone 3g is rumored to get iOS 5). Hope the smartphone OS market will be picking up speed again, Google seems to be slacking to me.
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Slacking? They came out and said after Froyo they would slow down on their releases...
The first 5 release were all bug fixes... now it's actual OS enhancements.
mikeyinid said:
I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
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Wth are you talking about? all ice cream sandwich does/is going to do is close the gap between gingerbread and honeycomb and maybe add software only buttons.
The Nexus S WILL GET IT and for that matter...so may the N1....
I'm pretty positive N1 will get ICS, and even most of the future updates unless it comes to hardware limitation.
@OP nexus phones are the most future proof when it comes to software updating, even with a nexus one you can't go wrong. Don't hesitate to get the nexus S btw, one hellava phone.
They better not make us wait 3+ months to get the update like they did for N1 users and GB. For me, ICS better be a pretty significant upgrade, otherwise I'll be going away from the Android platform. Really not a fan of the design and presentation.
if doesn't, i swear, i will buy a Nokia 1660.
it will be incredibly pointless if the android is supposed to "end with the fragmentation" doesn't come to previous nexus devices.
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if doesn't, i swear, i will buy a Nokia 1660.
it will be incredibly pointless if the android is supposed to "end with the fragmentation" doesn't come to previous nexus devices.
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Which fragmentation are they talking about? I guess it's just the differences between tablet (3.1) and smartphones (2.x.x) but smart move getting everyone hyped about ICS.
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mikeyinid said:
I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
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That's been said about every version since Froyo
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Will the a500 be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich?

is a very good question.. any "official" word?
No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb
cordell507 said:
not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb
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I'll bet a nickel that "unofficially" there will be roms for our device for a couple years forward. Ice cream sandwich and beyond.
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No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems
Bryan646 said:
The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems
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It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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there is one reason why ACER might not port ICS to the A500, the A500 is not a phone, the A501 is possibly more into getting updated to ICS.
From what I understand (read somewhere), is that according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
My bet is that we'll get it sometime early next year.
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It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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But you're just speculating.
Google has already stated that ICS will be AOSP'ed, so worst case scenario we'll at least be able to get native 3rd party ROMs for our A500's as long as the developer community remains strong.
Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
cm0901 said:
Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
You had to be part of the Open Handset Alliance to get the source code for Honeycomb. Google wanted more control on this particular release to keep vendors from trying to use it on a regular phone.
From the "leaked" photos I'm not really impressed with the ice cream sandwich update. It might be nice on phones but I love honeycomb on tablets. Yes there could be some improvement but overall honeycomb is great.
ACER could get alot of good geek buzz, if they update to ICS and open the bootloader up.
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with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate
cm0901 said:
Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Ruh roh am I the troll?
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cordell507 said:
with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate
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I think you will be disappointed. ICS is supposed to re-unite the phone and tabs os into one.
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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
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Open Handset Alliance == Android Alliance?
Not sure of that, but I may be well wrong...
Euclid's Brother said:
according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
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Ah, but an update to an OS and a NEW OS version are two entirely different things. Updates are point releases and bug fixes. You confuse the two, methinks. I deal with a lot of business contracts and I think I can speak with a bit of confidence that there's no way Google would force vendors to do major updates. Besides, if they did that you would now have Honeycomb on some phones... Obviously they can't because you can't even guarantee the same hardware will run the next major release.
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If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
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Again I disagree - sure there might be some irritated people on these forums, but the average consumer is now buying this tablet from Wal Mart of all places. That means they ain't all geeks anymore and probably won't even know when ICS is released.
The real trick is to buy like the manufacturers intended. Buy a tablet that does what you want RIGHT NOW. If you can't do that, don't buy because there's absolutely no guarantee that it will do what you want later.
It's like buying a Ford hoping for a free update to Jaguar before your warranty expires. Okay so it's nothing like that. But it is.
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But you're just speculating.
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But isn't that the point?

Ice cream Sandwich

All current gen Xperia models are going to be updated to Ice cream sandwich (Android 4.0) after October's 2.3.4 update!!!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/All-...ted-to-Android-4.0-Ice-Cream-Sandwich_id21947
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Just saw this and got so excited
Not only 2.3.4 in a month but 4.0 in the New Year.
SE is stepping up it's game
subcu1ture said:
Just saw this and got so excited
Not only 2.3.4 in a month but 4.0 in the New Year.
SE is stepping up it's game
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They have always been underrated(especially to Nokia in the Balkans)...and I don't understand how they are losing money on the play....
They are losing money because of their battered reputation for abandoning customers with their previous handsets. It seems like management has turned a new leaf. 2012 will probably be the now or never come back year for sony ericsson. They own like 1.7%of the market shares as of July =/ the earthquake played a big role at affecting those figures though.
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That's awesome news!
Hopefully Verizon doesn't slow down that update for us r800x users...but I'm not holding my breath. (Of course, barring any complications with r800x development it won't matter to those of us lucky enough to have locked in root.)
On that note, gosh I hope SE doesn't go under. They are currently the only company offering anything resembling a vanilla android experience on Verizon.
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They are losing money because of their battered reputation for abandoning customers with their previous handsets.
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like the SE Arc S
Looking forward to this, to be honest I've never really liked Honeycomb (Ice cream sandwich is a mobile version of honeycomb according to a friend), I just hope Sony keep their timescape UI in, I really like it.
p.s Cool name "ice cream sandwich"
The names are all original
froyo,gingerbread,honeycomb,Ice cream sandwitch
It was a false alarm, Sony said they didn't make any decisions regarding this
phandroid.com/2011/09/08/ice-cream-sandwich-coming-to-all-2011-sony-ericsson-handsets/
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just like gingerbread on the x10, the COULD change their mind. so lets not give up hope too soon. i'm going to keep reserved on the news. neither getting too excited, but not dismissing it either. fingers crossed guys n gals
Read the article carefully... A London based small potatoes representative confirmed the 4.0 upgrade...... Not the ceo or any department head on charge of upgrades and firmware... Take the news with a grain of salt.... We don't even know 4.0 is a good for single core phones... I find gingerbread to run real smooth already.
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Now I'm confused..
Anyhow, If the new ICS will run great on our phone then that would be awesome..
I'm excited to know the full latest features, I'm excited to taste that new flavor..
I hope you all know that officially, sony have made no decision on if it will bring ICS to the 2011 range of experia devices.
Infact there current official stance is "When it comes to future platforms of the Android OS, we will make them available to consumers in a timely manner as long as they improve the user experience and are viable from a hardware point of view."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...o-bring-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-devices/
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We don't even know 4.0 is a good for single core phones... I find gingerbread to run real smooth already.
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Google is touting ICS as their one OS fits all design. It's extremely doubtful that it will be dual core only, considering that and A) Dual core handsets are still in their infancy B) The dual cores out there aren't really faster than the single cores. I can see ICS bringing improved support for dual core, but it's a retarded business decision for Google to cut out single core phones. Even the latest version of windows doesn't do that.
Also, who cares what Sony says, the developers on here will ensure that if we really want ICS on our phones we will be able to.
Cat_On_Droid said:
The names are all original
froyo,gingerbread,honeycomb,Ice cream sandwitch
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Oh looks like it's alphabetical too hah..
brochador said:
Oh looks like it's alphabetical too hah..
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It is alphabetical didn't you know? it started with Cupcake, doughnut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb, ice cream sandwitch
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It is alphabetical didn't you know? it started with Cupcake, doughnut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb, ice cream sandwitch
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What about A and B?
speedyink said:
Google is touting ICS as their one OS fits all design. It's extremely doubtful that it will be dual core only, considering that and A) Dual core handsets are still in their infancy B) The dual cores out there aren't really faster than the single cores. I can see ICS bringing improved support for dual core, but it's a retarded business decision for Google to cut out single core phones. Even the latest version of windows doesn't do that.
Also, who cares what Sony says, the developers on here will ensure that if we really want ICS on our phones we will be able to.
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It won't just be for dual core as they have to deliver it to the NS and that's single core. I had the X10 and waited ages for the 2.1 update only to be dissatisfied because of how slow and laggy it was, still custom ROM's made up for SE's crap.
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Its based on honeycomb correct? Can anyone name 1 tablet that has a single core and runs honeycomb natively?
Nook Color, if I recall properly. It uses the very same Honeycomb as "native" tablets.
Plus, I want to remind you that dual cores are still top of the line. The midrange and low range of new devices (think of Optimus Sol or Galaxy Ace) will have to be updated too...

Motorola's broken promise

After Motorola joined the Android update alliance, they promised to release operating system updates to all its Android devices for 18 months following their release. But for the Xoom2/Xyboard Motorola quietly abandoned its update pledge, they will not provide any more updates for this device. Even though Motorola Xoom2 MZ607 has been on market only 12 months. Motorola providet only one update to this device and it took over 10 months and they don't even unlock the bootloader, i will never again buy anything from Motorola.
Wait I thought that promise was for the XOOM original not other devices >.>
The XOOM is a Google Experience Device so it gets updates...
Chaosgod27 said:
Wait I thought that promise was for the XOOM original not other devices >.>
The XOOM is a Google Experience Device so it gets updates...
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It dosen't matter which XOOM you have, all of them should be updatet http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-partners-with-oems-and-carriers-to-guarantee-android-upda/
Google handled the Xoom. Xoom 2 and all those other nonsense locked bootloader tabs are Moto's responsibility. Can't change it not but you'll buy a GED like the Xoom in the future I'm sure.
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After Motorola joined the Android update alliance, they promised to release operating system updates to all its Android devices for 18 months following their release. But for the Xoom2/Xyboard Motorola quietly abandoned its update pledge, they will not provide any more updates for this device. Even though Motorola Xoom2 MZ607 has been on market only 12 months. Motorola providet only one update to this device and it took over 10 months and they don't even unlock the bootloader, i will never again buy anything from Motorola.
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That makes two of us!!!
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Same with me. Additionaly xoom2 608 us giving me problems like crashes, frequently stops responding etc. I use stock rom no root just few apps. Never again moto.
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I still haven't seen any sources online saying that jelly bean will not be coming to the Xyboard/Xoom 2?
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big ach said:
I still haven't seen any sources online saying that jelly bean will not be coming to the Xyboard/Xoom 2?
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Common sense?
I feel for all you guys who, like me, are bitterly disappointed by Moto's lack of updates for the Xoom 2, and the seemingly pointless hope that there will ever be custom ROMs for this device.
I purchased my Xoom 2 over a year ago, and had to wait an eternity for the update from HC to ICS. I shouldn't have bothered waiting. I'm not a dev, so I don't know the intricate details of the Android workings....all I can say is that, in my opinion, the stock ROM is utter, utter, monumental rubbish!
My tab is laggy, unstable and generally unpleasant to use on a daily basis. In fact, it's been lying in my bag for about 2 weeks with a flat battery, and I can't even be bothered to charge it.
I now have a complete loathing for anything Moto, and I will never recommend a Moto device to anyone.
I saw some posts some time ago, which said that Moto took an eternity to release ICS because they wanted to make it "stable" and "bug free"....FAIL! It still has problems with the browser randomly closing while mid session, and as mentioned before, it's painfully laggy.
I'm going to try a complete wipe and factory reset to see if I can salvage the £300+ I spent on this POS, but I'm not feeling optimistic.
If anyone has any suggestions, then I would be grateful to hear them.....please don't suggest selling it, I'm seriously debating that now LOL
Good luck guys...and thanks for nothing Moto
The Android Update Alliance was dead on arrival. None of the OEMs stuck to it and no one apparently took it seriously.
Its a real shame that OEMS fail to support products properly and its one of the biggest reasons ill be sticking to Nexus devices in the future.
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^Pretty much even I don't remember the promise...
What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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big ach said:
What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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So Far my Nexus 1 was until the devs couldnt shoe horn in the latest os version to the limited memory on the device.
They are still working magic with the xoom wifi 604.
jimboogly said:
So Far my Nexus 1 was until the devs couldnt shoe horn in the latest os version to the limited memory on the device.
They are still working magic with the xoom wifi 604.
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I think he's talking about from the OEM.
Nexus one was released on Android 2.1 in January of 2010 and upgraded up to 2.3.6 in September 2011 (~21 months).
Nexus S released on 2.3 in December 2010. Its final update was 4.1 in October 2012 (~22 months).
And the Xoom, while not a Nexus, had the GED wifi version released in late March of 2011 on 3.x. It was updated to 4.1 in July 2012 I believe (~18 months).
So across the board, Google has stuck to their minimum of 18 months of updates.
big ach said:
What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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3 major updates + X amount of bug fixes give or take.
Cubanluke88 said:
I think he's talking about from the OEM.
Nexus one was released on Android 2.1 in January of 2010 and upgraded up to 2.3.6 in September 2011 (~21 months).
Nexus S released on 2.3 in December 2010. Its final update was 4.1 in October 2012 (~22 months).
And the Xoom, while not a Nexus, had the GED wifi version released in late March of 2011 on 3.x. It was updated to 4.1 in July 2012 I believe (~18 months).
So across the board, Google has stuck to their minimum of 18 months of updates.
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3 major updates + X amount of bug fixes give or take.
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Honeycomb, Ice Cream Sandwich, Jellybean. 18 months was up in October 2012. I'd say we got all that we could, particularly since the Xoom had a really small system partition from the start. Fortunately there are some great developers making 4.2.1 work near flawlessly on the Xoom.
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The thing about the Xoom is that each step, from 3.x to 4.0 and 4.0 to 4.1, it saw MAJOR improvements. Honeycomb was just genuinely bad, no surprise there as it was essentially a closed beta. ICS unified 2.3 and 3.x. For users that went straight from 2.3 to 4.0 (i.e. most phones that upgraded), they didn't really see a very large performance upgrade. But for users on 3.x like us, it was HUGE. I remember when it came out. It gave the tablet new life. Conversely I remember a lot of phone users being irritated by it because of the huge UI change (and very little, if any perceivable performance upgrade, as 2.3 was already a reasonably stable OS).
And then 4.1 introduced project butter which improved performance across the board and again, new life in our aging device.
I'd like to say that 24 months should be the standard, but really with how fast hardware improves and with a new Android release roughly twice a year, I can understand the 18 month policy.
It did the Xoom wonders. If you didn't experience it much or don't recall, flash back to a 3.x rom. That **** was just bad. I'm pretty content with my Xoom staying on 4.1 for the foreseeable future.
The LTE Xoom remains a tragedy (though mine is still chugging along) and it is the MAIN reason the Google merger and all of this banter about a Motorola X phone doesn't mean crap to me.
I hold Motorola and Google (and Verizon) responsible for this lie of a tablet. No official Jelly Bean is pathetic. Truly pathetic.
I can't wait to get a Note.
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sbrownla said:
I can't wait to get a Note.
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Good luck. Samsung and other OEMs are no better when it comes to updates (except maybe Asus and Acer).
For instance, Samsung abandoned the 2011 galaxy tab 10.1 at Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0).
Updates, updates, updates...it's all you generally hear on these forums. Don't forget the only way anyone makes any money in Androidville is through HARDWARE. If Moto or whoever update Xoom2 to current Android version, how are they gonna sell Xoom3 and Xoom4 and Xoom X or whatever they're going to call it?
Honestly, think about how these people make money and it's a no brainer. I got a Xoom as I knew it was a GED and got WI-Fi as the GSM/CDMA/LTE versions never get updates (historically). But at the end of the day you make the decision to buy the hardware knowing that in 2 yrs the HARDWARE won't be able to keep up anyway and will have to be replaced (Xoom getting bit long in the tooth now but is suprisingly robust IMHO).
If you get updates for all of eternity then what motivation do you have to purchase a new device?

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