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I wish google would hint towards the future for us early adopters..
Forgetabout a new update lets see source!
Google promised updates for 18 months on new devices. http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/
First tablet to market with Android 3.0
First tablet with Android 3.1
Google has announced 4.0 Ice cream.
Hopefully we'll be the first with 4.0 too
As far as the OP I don't think the question should be about Google updating the xoom really. Google makes honeycomb so i think the real question has to be whether they will update honeycomb again before ice cream comes out. As far as I can tell once the next version of android OS comes out the previous version seems to stop being upgraded (once froyo came eclair stopped moving, froyo stopped updating with gingerbread, etc). Will honeycomb stop with ice cream? judging by the past, probably.
As far as the future of early adopters, I think the best thing to hope for is that the xoom (tegra 2) will be sufficient to run ice cream and be compatible enough that it will appear OTA directly from Google. As far the xoom being the first device to get it, I highly doubt it. Odds are a new "vanilla" device be it phone or tablet will debut the OS (also with whatever developments have been made in mobile processors since tegra2 under the hood). Yes the naked truth is that it is a fast fast moving market.
The percs offered to early xoom owners from google have been: first to get honeycomb 3.1 and guaranteed invitation/acceptance to Google music. Beyond this I don't think Google has anymore special treatment up the sleeves. And I don't immagine they are that stoked about being subtly expected to do damage control for Motorola's 4g problems.
If there does happen to be a HC 3.2 upgrade before ice cream then perhaps xoom owners may be first to get it but at any rate i immagine ice cream ends up on the xoom regardles, either through xda or Google or of course both.
And I think that is the future for xoom owners.
Edit: and just to clarify, I dont think Google exactly promised that they would update devices for 18 months, but rather that their partners have promised to update their devices to run whatever compatible android versions are released for those devices for 18 months. I.e no being stuck on froyo forever even though your phone can run gingerbread. What we would want to hear iis tthat Google promises to release compatible updates for your device for 18 months, but this isnt what they said. Plus that would pivot around device release times which isn't possible. If a new device comes at the end of an OS cycle I doubt Google will carry version for another year because one phone hopped on at the last minute. Btw sorry to be so cynical guys, just calling it as i see it
No update no sd
It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
HC 3.1 is the final version, next version is smoerrebroed 4.0.
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My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
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This is absolute FUD. You don't know that this is true, nor have there been any indications from Google/Moto that this is the case. Stop scaremongering.
raviosopr said:
ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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US Xooms will probably get updates to ICS I guess... didn't they have a prototype of ICS at Google I/O on a Xoom?
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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No, they said it would be merging of the Tablet and Phone - so it should be any sized screen (although that probably just ranges from phone (can't think of lowest size, but lets say for the sake of argument 3" -> tablet 10.1"
jm9843 said:
Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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I concur - that's how I read it all too
Also I imagine there may be a couple of bugfixes along the way but nothing major till ICS (4.0?)
so maybe 3.1.1, 3.1.2, probably not a 3.2 - only if there's a new feature they want to push out that is fairly big...
However - if google are responsible for the SD Card slot - then 3.2 may address that issue - else it'd probably just be a 3.1.1 update judging on how they have done updating numbering on the past...
I think Google had Moto add SD to be ready for Ice cream. Its my idea that that was the plan maybe im crazy but who knows
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Found this over in the Evo forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908338
and it has a link to this article
http://pocketnow.com/android/rumor-android-24-ice-cream-arriving-in-early-summer
maybe whatever sprint is planning on releasing this june will have ice cream..what do you guys think
We don't even have froyo never mind gingerbread. Honeycomb is next and that's 3.0 and they haven't even started working on that and your worried about ice cream being 2.4. Ice cream would be 3.x since google goes in alphabetical order
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mysteryemotionz said:
We don't even have froyo never mind gingerbread. Honeycomb is next and that's 3.0 and they haven't even started working on that and your worried about ice cream being 2.4. Ice cream would be 3.x since google goes in alphabetical order
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Not ice cream for the Epic...for w/e they release,and i just went with 2.4 like the article said
II5StarII Swag said:
Not ice cream for the Epic...for w/e they release,and i just went with 2.4 like the article said
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Fair enuff but gingerbread was just finished. I'm sure there taking a short break and then working on honeycomb. I wouldn't expect 2.4 our ice cream in the summer if this rumor is true
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We don't even have froyo never mind gingerbread. Honeycomb is next and that's 3.0 and they haven't even started working on that and your worried about ice cream being 2.4. Ice cream would be 3.x since google goes in alphabetical order
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Honeycomb is all but done my friend. It's been seen running on tablets already and rumor has it we may even see a Honeycomb tablet next month.
Here's Google's leaked demo of Honeycomb. I'm pretty sure that's not all CG'ed.
EDIT- I can't help but notice that FroYo was released last Summer, Gingerbread released during the holidays, Honeycomb will be showing up in late winter / early spring, and Ice Cream again in the summer. Interesting!
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Fair enuff but gingerbread was just finished. I'm sure there taking a short break and then working on honeycomb. I wouldn't expect 2.4 our ice cream in the summer if this rumor is true
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My guess is that they renamed gingerbread to "ice cream" for the phones instead of calling it gingerbread also
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Nope that was just a developing error. It's supposed to be 2.3.
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I am pretty sure Honeycomb is tablet only. Thats what I took from that video anyway.
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Honeycomb is all but done my friend. It's been seen running on tablets already and rumor has it we may even see a Honeycomb tablet next month.
Here's Google's leaked demo of Honeycomb. I'm pretty sure that's not all CG'ed.
EDIT- I can't help but notice that FroYo was released last Summer, Gingerbread released during the holidays, Honeycomb will be showing up in late winter / early spring, and Ice Cream again in the summer. Interesting!
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I didn't realize honeycomb was done already. From what I see is honeycomb will be tablet only. My question is if the tablets get 3.0 and smart phones get 2.3 what's going to happen after 2.9?
I never realized there update schedual to you pointed it out.
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The OS version dubbed honeycomb may be tablet only, nothing about that means that phones won't see past 3.0
Unified versions. Phone OS and tablet OS will eventually merge into a single OS.
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I didn't realize honeycomb was done already. From what I see is honeycomb will be tablet only. My question is if the tablets get 3.0 and smart phones get 2.3 what's going to happen after 2.9?
I never realized there update schedual to you pointed it out.
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Yeah, all signs point to Honeycomb being tablet-only. It looks like they will go to 2.4 for Ice Cream and at some point they will merge the two as muyoso mentioned.
I'll bet Google put a different team on Honeycomb then they did on Gingerbread; I'm sure they collaborated but since Honeycomb is going to split off as the Tablet branch of the Android tree, they've probably got a separate team working on all the Tablet features like sorting out app / resolution conflicts and tablet UI enhancements. Anyhow this would explain the relatively short time between launches.
From my understanding Google wants the Chrome OS on tablet and netbook. I think honeycomb is something to hold tablet people over til Chrome is ready. And Android has already jumped a lot of numbers they can easily jump 3.x and go to 4 for phones.
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At ces google did an interview and honeycomb will be on cell phones not just tablets....
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EhudBenjamin said:
From my understanding Google wants the Chrome OS on tablet and netbook. I think honeycomb is something to hold tablet people over til Chrome is ready. And Android has already jumped a lot of numbers they can easily jump 3.x and go to 4 for phones.
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Chrome OS is going to get dropped or at very least put on the shelf for a while. Android is too popular for Google to abandon it at this point. Its on everything. Also, at this point chrome os is no where near ready to publicly launch for consumers. Consumers would hate the OS for the most part. It offers zero advantages over android. Also, it looks like Honeycomb is running some modified version of chrome, so I am sure chrome OS apps will work on honeycomb. Maybe it wont be natively, but if there is a reason to do it, XDA will provide.
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From my understanding Google wants the Chrome OS on tablet and netbook. I think honeycomb is something to hold tablet people over til Chrome is ready. And Android has already jumped a lot of numbers they can easily jump 3.x and go to 4 for phones.
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Isn't Chrome OS x86-only?
I'm waiting till they get to "S" then it will be android 10.0 called "SKYNET". yes.. get me some guns!
I'm starting to feel like every new release just reveals how half baked this platform really is.
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Ah don’t you just love the way the Google guys keep on with the sweet names for their Android operating system, sooner or later they will run out of ideas, but not for the next version of their OS which will apparently be called Ice Cream.
According to an article over on the Boy Genius Report by Andrew Munchbach, a report by Pocket-lint says according to “multiple sourse familiar with the matter,” the Android 2.4 Ice Cream operating system is to be released by Google sometime in either June or July of this year.
Furthermore apparently Google is expected to announce this during Google I/O 2011 in San Francisco in May. Android Ice Cream will be the next in a long line for desert-style naming from Google with the Android platform receiving Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread and then Android Honeycomb for Android tables, and now Ice Cream, one wonders where it will all end.
That’s all that’s known about the new operating system no word on just what to expect improvement wise or feature wise when Ice Cream finally makes it into the Android space. Any of our readers care to hazzard a guess at what Android 2.4 Ice Cream will deliver?
Source:
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/01/11/android-2-4-ice-cream-releasing-summertime/
http://www.fonehome.co.uk/2011/01/17/android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-features-we-want/
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/37819/google-ice-cream-android-2-4
Nice info, thanks for sharing!
I thought the name would be Ice Cream Sandwich as mentioned in the second link.. still nice
But the versionnumber 2.4 is hard to believe when we are already at 2.3 even before Honeycomb. Even if (which I seriously doubt) Google would seperate their software in 2 different "branches" the newest branch will unlikely have a lower version number.
Just my 2 cents
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do you think the sgs will get any ice cream because i dont
considering how "fast" samsung moves at pushing out upgrades... i think you'll get 2.4 by year 2020
AllGamer said:
considering how "fast" samsung moves at pushing out upgrades... i think you'll get 2.4 by year 2020
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LOL
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Someone knows if Asus have plans to upgrade the Transformer with the upcoming version of Android?
Skyrim said:
Someone knows if Asus have plans to upgrade the Transformer with the upcoming version of Android?
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They better do that, atthe moment Transformer is not a whole ecosystem, and the fact that honeycomb will ceasse to exist, indicate any future update, which was officially promised to extend to an 18 month period by google, will make me deduce that Ice Cream is indeed in the future of my beloved device
I don't understand Honeycomb, there was and is much talk that Honeycomb needs more time to mature and have more apps to rival IOS but it seems they switched gears to ICS. It looks like Honeycomb is an aborted baby or some band aid solution until they release ICS in the fall, that would be less than a year for HC.
The app developers have no real incentive to push out apps when a new OS is around the corner and with the new OS it would be even more time for teething issues. I think Android tablets users are getting the short end of the stick.
Honeycomb and ICS are not different OS's. ICS is simply an update to Honeycomb, like how 3.1 was an update from 3.0. It will be the update from 3.2 to 4.0. It is the same thing as how phones got updated from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3. Next up for phones is the jump from 2.3 to 4.0, because ICS is the unification of the tablet and phone sides of Android.
If a dev is waiting on ICS to build an app, then they are both wasting time and potential revenue from selling the app, because the app will work perfectly fine on ICS. Google does everything they can to ensure that apps can scale and evolve both through various devices, and OS versions.
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ICS is just an update to Honeycomb.
Edit: Also, Google has stated that ICS will be open sourced, and since we have root on our devices, I would say with absolute certainty that we will be able to have ICS roms. I wouldn't worry too much if there is an official update or not because of that. You'll get your Ice Cream and YOU WILL LIKE IT!!
You are true AstroTrain. Honeycomb was hacked together from the phone versions to quickly rush out a tablet pltform. Ice Cream would be a true tablet OS along with a phone OS.
The transformer is a very hackable device. If there isnt an official release there will be a dev release. All of the iconias are locked and some of the 10.1s are locked, which is why the transformer is the best honeycomb tablet on the market rightmost.
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I was just reading a news article on pulse about the testing of a quad core xoom, with ice cream sandwich
Which led me to wonder, will the original xoom get 4.0 sometime after the release of such a device?
Not trying to ask for a definitive answer
I just wonder what the general consensus of peoples opinions on the xoom getting android 4.0
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I remember I saw it somewhere that Motorola is to support software upgrade for 18 months from the org Xoom release date. If that's truth, we shall see ICS on the 1st generation Xoom.
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I remember I saw it somewhere that Motorola is to support software upgrade for 18 months from the org Xoom release date. If that's truth, we shall see ICS on the 1st generation Xoom.
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Yes, but they said IF hardware is compatible, so they can always say it isn't.
In positive it will be, offical or otherwise. ICS is supposed to have the buttons from android 1.x and 2.x moved into a 3.x screen solution, and we do by all indicatioms have the horsepower to run it. If you think that ICS is to unify phones and tablets, I don't foresee android becoming a quad core only affair partially on phones, ut also on tablets. And we have great devs along with unlockable bootloaders, so my money says we are golden one way or another.
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"One OS that runs everywhere." So ICS will probBly come to the Xoom.
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ı believe xoom will be one of the firsts to get the ICS update.. all versions have different release dates but averagely we can say it has been released in the beginning of the march 2011.. so it has to be updateable with every new android OS which will be announced until the september of 2012..
about the hardware; there still are single cored notebooks which run windows 7 around.. i cant think of an android system that xoom can not hande with its dual core, 1gb of ram and nvidia graphic card..
Don't get me wrong, i agree that Ice Cream Sandwich should work on current Xoom. I just don't want to get my hopes too high.
If the rumor about Xoom 2 being the next GED are true then i don't see Google pushing the Ice Scream to current Xooms on release day (compatible or not). Then i will probably just buy the next Xoom from US (hoping it will have a global 3G radio this time).
I imagine it will be second to see ICS
like nexus s got gingerbread first, nexus one got it second
poisike said:
Don't get me wrong, i agree that Ice Cream Sandwich should work on current Xoom. I just don't want to get my hopes too high.
If the rumor about Xoom 2 being the next GED are true then i don't see Google pushing the Ice Scream to current Xooms on release day (compatible or not). Then i will probably just buy the next Xoom from US (hoping it will have a global 3G radio this time).
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The whole idea behind ICS is to get EVERY android device on the same OS for consistancy... This being a GED device means that there is no way it won't get it. I'm sure its not going to work on the G1, but you know what I'm sayin.
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Android 5.0 Jelly Bean may arrive as early as Q2 2012, supply chain sources claim, with Google apparently integrating Chrome OS functionality for dual-boot tablets and netbooks. Those aren’t the search giant’s only dual-OS ambitions, however; insiders tell DigiTimes that Google is pushing Android 5.0 and Windows 8 hybrids to its manufacturing partners, for notebooks, netbooks and tablets that offer the best of both platforms.
Although Google is yet to comment significantly on whether Ice Cream Sandwich has met its expectations in the market, it’s clear that Android 4.0 is yet to gain a significant foothold. According to Google’s own stats, as of February 1 2012 only 1-percent of devices were running ICS, with the majority still on Android 2.3.x Gingerbread.
The dual-booting Android 5.0 Jelly Bean and Windows 8 machines will be able to hot-swap between the two platforms, the sources indicate, rather than demanding a reboot each time. That would give users the opportunity to use Android for its web-centric functionality and speed, while switching to Windows would offer the various legacy and business apps many users still demand. Update: It’s worth remembering that Microsoft’s Windows 8 hardware requirements apparently block second OS installation on ARM-based PCs by users, thanks to a locked Secure Boot system, though it’s unclear whether OEMs are permitted to do so before the hardware leaves the factory. [Thanks Richard!]
Google is supposedly seeing Android 5.0 as a second chance at the notebook and netbook markets, Chrome OS failing to grab attention as expected, though the tipsters warn that the response to Ice Cream Sandwich has left some partners “conservative” about the new platform.
Part of Google’s challenge is encouraging timely OS updates among vendors. Motorola revealed its timescale for upgrading US Android devices yesterday, with most not expected to see Ice Cream Sandwich until Q3 2012 or later
Credit to MMosley from CIH for passing this on
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I read the same thing a couple of times and i think androidcentral said it best. It will probably be announced and google I/O but not launch and until then its all rumors
I get all my info about google's android version's from wikipedia
It looks like 5.0 will be mainly for tablets PC's and also dual cores. So I don't think the shift would benifit from it much at all.
bu-bu-but Ice Cream Sandwich! I want it on my shift! It's the best OS evar!!!
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bu-bu-but Ice Cream Sandwich! I want it on my shift! It's the best OS evar!!!
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And you shall have it. Jelly bean is pretty much honeycomb all over again but better... Hopefully and thats if all these rumors are true
YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
And you shall have it. Jelly bean is pretty much honeycomb all over again but better... Hopefully and thats if all these rumors are true
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Yeah, comparing ICS vs HC or GB vs HC is like comparing apples to oranges for the shift. Right now GB is a lot better vs ICS until all the bugs get worked out and has funtioning 4G wimax.
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Yeah, comparing ICS vs HC or GB vs HC is like comparing apples to oranges for the shift. Right now GB is a lot better vs ICS until all the bugs get worked out and has funtioning 4G wimax.
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I meant he shall have ics. If jelly bean is for tablets and honeycomb is for tablets then it may not be open source. It that is true it doesn't bother me seeing as i won't be getting a tablet for a good year or two whenever i see it actually having worth for me. I returned my HTC flyer cause i really didn't need it and bought a fourth 22 inch tv and the sony google tv lol
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I meant he shall have ics. If jelly bean is for tablets and honeycomb is for tablets then it may not be open source. It that is true it doesn't bother me seeing as i won't be getting a tablet for a good year or two whenever i see it actually having worth for me. I returned my HTC flyer cause i really didn't need it and bought a fourth 22 inch tv and the sony google tv lol
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I meant I could careless about ICS.
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I meant I could careless about ICS.
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Oh haha I read wrong then
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The dual-booting Android 5.0 Jelly Bean and Windows 8 machines will be able to hot-swap between the two platforms, the sources indicate, rather than demanding a reboot each time.
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Update: It’s worth remembering that Microsoft’s Windows 8 hardware requirements apparently block second OS installation on ARM-based PCs by users, thanks to a locked Secure Boot system, though it’s unclear whether OEMs are permitted to do so before the hardware leaves the factory. [Thanks Richard!]
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Although UEFI has the capability to load a second OS without a hardware reset, every thing I have read to date indicates that Microsoft will require manufacturers to ship their product with a locked bootloader to earn Windows certification.
As Windows 8 (a total redesign just for tablets) will be competing directly with Android, I think initially dual-boot won't be an official option until Microsoft has either made a substantial amount of money (off of Windows 8 licenses) or has secured a large enough market share.
It is worth noting, however, that the locked bootloader requirement may only apply to ARM-based devices; x86 hardware may be exempt. Intel and AMD are making huge strides in their mobile CPU departments, and as Android and Windows 8 can both run on x86, we will be seeing a decent amount of Atom/Z-01 powered tablets soon.