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Does google plan on updating the xoom again?

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I wish google would hint towards the future for us early adopters..

Forgetabout a new update lets see source!

Google promised updates for 18 months on new devices. http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/
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Google has announced 4.0 Ice cream.
Hopefully we'll be the first with 4.0 too

As far as the OP I don't think the question should be about Google updating the xoom really. Google makes honeycomb so i think the real question has to be whether they will update honeycomb again before ice cream comes out. As far as I can tell once the next version of android OS comes out the previous version seems to stop being upgraded (once froyo came eclair stopped moving, froyo stopped updating with gingerbread, etc). Will honeycomb stop with ice cream? judging by the past, probably.
As far as the future of early adopters, I think the best thing to hope for is that the xoom (tegra 2) will be sufficient to run ice cream and be compatible enough that it will appear OTA directly from Google. As far the xoom being the first device to get it, I highly doubt it. Odds are a new "vanilla" device be it phone or tablet will debut the OS (also with whatever developments have been made in mobile processors since tegra2 under the hood). Yes the naked truth is that it is a fast fast moving market.
The percs offered to early xoom owners from google have been: first to get honeycomb 3.1 and guaranteed invitation/acceptance to Google music. Beyond this I don't think Google has anymore special treatment up the sleeves. And I don't immagine they are that stoked about being subtly expected to do damage control for Motorola's 4g problems.
If there does happen to be a HC 3.2 upgrade before ice cream then perhaps xoom owners may be first to get it but at any rate i immagine ice cream ends up on the xoom regardles, either through xda or Google or of course both.
And I think that is the future for xoom owners.
Edit: and just to clarify, I dont think Google exactly promised that they would update devices for 18 months, but rather that their partners have promised to update their devices to run whatever compatible android versions are released for those devices for 18 months. I.e no being stuck on froyo forever even though your phone can run gingerbread. What we would want to hear iis tthat Google promises to release compatible updates for your device for 18 months, but this isnt what they said. Plus that would pivot around device release times which isn't possible. If a new device comes at the end of an OS cycle I doubt Google will carry version for another year because one phone hopped on at the last minute. Btw sorry to be so cynical guys, just calling it as i see it

No update no sd
It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
HC 3.1 is the final version, next version is smoerrebroed 4.0.
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My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates

hdtvpower said:
It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
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This is absolute FUD. You don't know that this is true, nor have there been any indications from Google/Moto that this is the case. Stop scaremongering.

raviosopr said:
ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.

tumbes20000 said:
My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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US Xooms will probably get updates to ICS I guess... didn't they have a prototype of ICS at Google I/O on a Xoom?
raviosopr said:
ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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No, they said it would be merging of the Tablet and Phone - so it should be any sized screen (although that probably just ranges from phone (can't think of lowest size, but lets say for the sake of argument 3" -> tablet 10.1"
jm9843 said:
Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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I concur - that's how I read it all too
Also I imagine there may be a couple of bugfixes along the way but nothing major till ICS (4.0?)
so maybe 3.1.1, 3.1.2, probably not a 3.2 - only if there's a new feature they want to push out that is fairly big...
However - if google are responsible for the SD Card slot - then 3.2 may address that issue - else it'd probably just be a 3.1.1 update judging on how they have done updating numbering on the past...

I think Google had Moto add SD to be ready for Ice cream. Its my idea that that was the plan maybe im crazy but who knows

Relax, Android Honeycomb is only a beta build

Was browsing the internet and I came upon this article. The editor has a good point... read on...
This weekend the first wave of Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 reviews were released. Despite an overwhelming appreciation for the hardware, build quality and design, the slate carved out ho-hum scores due to its OS, Android Honeycomb.
As a firm believer in software’s ability to wield better performance from existing hardware I’m perplexed by the Honeycomb situation. Developers are not flocking in droves like I’d expected and in three months we have just a handful of Honeycomb-optimized apps.
The progress is quite unsettling when compared to the original iPad which added nearly 5,000 iPad-specific titles to the App Store in its first 30 days. If apps alone were the measurement of success, Honeycomb would be on the brink of failure. Thankfully that’s not the case, not by a long shot.
It’s not possible to compare Honeycomb to the transition from iOS on the iPhone to iPad. Apple transplanted its OS to a larger screen with only minor adjustments to the UI. Meanwhile, Google built Honeycomb from the ground up as a tablet OS. In time the paths of Gingerbread and Honeycomb will meet with the launch of Ice Cream Sandwich.
The important takeaway for Honeycomb is the browser, email client and multi-tasking are quite refined for a new software build. Google has proven its commitment to the OS by releasing an Android 3.1 update less than two months after the Motorola Xoom launched. A second update, Android 3.2, is scheduled for later this year.
There’s no arguing the slow acceptance of Honeycomb by app developers. Maybe they’re waiting for Ice Cream Sandwich so they can develop with the one-and-done approach. Or maybe they want to see a minimum number of Android tablet owners on the market ready and willing to buy their apps. Whatever the case may be I can promise you that without wide-scale support of the platform through early adopters, Android innovation will come to a grinding halt.
The good news is that apps will come, albeit slower that expected. As a mobile OS, Honeycomb is in a far better position than Android 1.0 was after three months. The best way to approach Honeycomb is to take a deep breath and evaluate the OS for what it is — a fresh build. In that regard the strides are remarkable. With or without apps, Android Honeycomb packs a strong foundation and the bloodline for success.
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http://electricpig.co.uk/2011/06/21/state-of-android-honeycomb/
With that said, I will be keeping my Galaxy Tab and will be looking forward to the Ice Cream Sandwich release...

But is sammy capable or updating the tabs to ICS or will be releasing tab 3 with ICS

aliirq said:
But is sammy capable or updating the tabs to ICS or will be releasing tab 3 with ICS
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Google announced at I/O that devices purchased will be supported with updates for 18 months from date of purchase, hardware capabilities permitting, of course. So I'd imagine the Galaxy Tab 10.1 should definitely qualify, esp when you think about a lot of the devices being released lately (including the Nexus S which is only a single core phone, so hardware should def not be a problem for ICS).

Android 5.0 Jelly Bean tipped for Q2 2012 - SlashGear

Here is news worthy information that came across my inbox.
Retrieved from here
Android 5.0 Jelly Bean may arrive as early as Q2 2012, supply chain sources claim, with Google apparently integrating Chrome OS functionality for dual-boot tablets and netbooks. Those aren’t the search giant’s only dual-OS ambitions, however; insiders tell DigiTimes that Google is pushing Android 5.0 and Windows 8 hybrids to its manufacturing partners, for notebooks, netbooks and tablets that offer the best of both platforms.
Although Google is yet to comment significantly on whether Ice Cream Sandwich has met its expectations in the market, it’s clear that Android 4.0 is yet to gain a significant foothold. According to Google’s own stats, as of February 1 2012 only 1-percent of devices were running ICS, with the majority still on Android 2.3.x Gingerbread.
The dual-booting Android 5.0 Jelly Bean and Windows 8 machines will be able to hot-swap between the two platforms, the sources indicate, rather than demanding a reboot each time. That would give users the opportunity to use Android for its web-centric functionality and speed, while switching to Windows would offer the various legacy and business apps many users still demand. Update: It’s worth remembering that Microsoft’s Windows 8 hardware requirements apparently block second OS installation on ARM-based PCs by users, thanks to a locked Secure Boot system, though it’s unclear whether OEMs are permitted to do so before the hardware leaves the factory. [Thanks Richard!]
Google is supposedly seeing Android 5.0 as a second chance at the notebook and netbook markets, Chrome OS failing to grab attention as expected, though the tipsters warn that the response to Ice Cream Sandwich has left some partners “conservative” about the new platform.
Part of Google’s challenge is encouraging timely OS updates among vendors. Motorola revealed its timescale for upgrading US Android devices yesterday, with most not expected to see Ice Cream Sandwich until Q3 2012 or later.

Dual booting Android and Windows 8 from the factory? I doubt it. Would be pretty cool, though. Save us a lot on the hacking side of things

Very true. Yeah Google needs to figure out that they're being crippled by stupid manufacturers who refuse to release timely updates for their devices... This is foolish that ics has been out since... November? And 4 months later, only a few high end devices have ics on them? How the heck is ics supposed to make an impact on anyone if 4 months into the update very few phones have it? They need to have it completed before announcing it and give it to the manufacturers to start working with and get their phones running on it before making the announcement and official release otherwise it becomes old news before it's even on a good portion of high end devices. Foolish.
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lorddart said:
Very true. Yeah Google needs to figure out that they're being crippled by stupid manufacturers who refuse to release timely updates for their devices... This is foolish that ics has been out since... November? And 4 months later, only a few high end devices have ics on them? How the heck is ics supposed to make an impact on anyone if 4 months into the update very few phones have it? They need to have it completed before announcing it and give it to the manufacturers to start working with and get their phones running on it before making the announcement and official release otherwise it becomes old news before it's even on a good portion of high end devices. Foolish.
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I completely agree with you, but it seems like 5.0 will be for notebooks and netbooks, like honeycomb was for tablets.
i'll stick to even numbered releases (2.x, 4.x, etc.)

yea, it would really help if manufacturers would quit spending 6 months modding the OS before even possibly releasing it to their devices. But the problem is that they make their money by selling the latest greatest hardware which is more difficult if you can get the latest greatest version of the OS on older hardware. I'm running a Vibrant that now has ICS on it thanks to all the independent devs out there that in my mind are the reason android has done as well as it has. If google REALLY wants their newer version to be adopted, they would put clauses in their contracts that limits the amount of customization a manufacturer can do and requires them to justify delays past a certain period of time between G's release of a version and the manufacturer's release of it to all devices that meet requirements that would accompany each release from G.
But none of this is going to happen LOL.
One of the things that really burns me on this topic is that of all the mods that the manufacturers put on that I've used... none of them actually enhance the experience much if at all.

Does Android 5.0 support push service and limit the background applications? That will be smooth, faster and save battery. Just need a service to call app when they have an update.
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steafand said:
Does Android 5.0 support push service and limit the background applications? That will be smooth, faster and save battery. Just need a service to call app when they have an update.
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lol there is hardly any info as it is, you would have to wait a little longer for more specific details to be released.

steafand said:
Does Android 5.0 support push service and limit the background applications? That will be smooth, faster and save battery. Just need a service to call app when they have an update.
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Yea, you have to remember that this has been TIPPED, so what little details we have now aren't even going to be very reliable.

Google may launch Jelly Bean in 2Q12

Google may launch Android 5.0 Jelly Bean in 2Q12
Viewing that the adoption of Android 4.0 has fallen short of original expectations and Microsoft will launch Windows 8 in the third quarter of 2012, Google is likely to launch Android 5.0 (Jelly Bean) in the second quarter and appeal for adopting Android 5.0 and Windows 8 in the same tablet PC, according to Taiwan-based supply chain makers.
Android 5.0 will be further optimized for tablet PCs, while Google will also integrate its Chrome system functions to push dual-operating system designs. Brand vendors can either choose to adopt only Android 5.0 or add Android 5.0 to Windows 8 devices with the ability to switch between the two OSes without the need to shut down the computer.
Through Android 5.0, Google also wishes to earn another chance to enter the notebook and netbook markets.
However, since Android 4.0 did not perform as well as expected, several of Google's downstream partners are turning conservative about Android 5.0.
Source http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120215PD209.html

Finally folks will quit fussing about not having ICS yet. Now they will start fussing about not having Jelly Bean..........

This seems completely absurd. What does it mean by companies arent adopting ICS?? Arent we seeing lists of dates when ICS will be updated to HTc, Motorola, Acer, Asus hardware? Why would I want to boot into windows 8? Pure internets hogwash.

Microsoft has stated that Windows 8 tablets will have secure-boot meaning you will not be allowed/able to install another OS on the tablet, so how could Google promise to be able to switch between Android and Windows?

Weird article, a lot of loose claims about poor adoption of ICS and OEMs being wary about it (implied that they may be considering windows 8 instead) with no information whatsoever to back up those claims.
Honestly this reads just like one of those old-school, Microsoft-sponsored FUD pieces of yore.

I guess will start seeing tons of threads with polls on the release date for JB. I am sure people will be threatening to trade their TF for an ipad if it is not released by July 4th. It appears that OS development has be come a war of anticipation rather than actual delivered product.

Reeonimus said:
Microsoft has stated that Windows 8 tablets will have secure-boot meaning you will not be allowed/able to install another OS on the tablet, so how could Google promise to be able to switch between Android and Windows?
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Afaik it's not mandatory for OEMs to include secure-boot.

I think Digitimes is losing something in their translation from their Taiwanese supply contacts. We can pretty safely assume, that Jellybean will not be released in Q2 2012. It will likely be previewed at Google I/O (which is in Q2) and released in late Q4 2012 with the new nexus device. Also, the version number is more likely to be 4.1 not 5.0 since Jellybean will be building upon the new interface paradigms introduced in ICS. Similar to how Froyo and GB were point releases after Eclair.
That's my gut feeling anyway, for what its worth.

Reeonimus said:
Microsoft has stated that Windows 8 tablets will have secure-boot meaning you will not be allowed/able to install another OS on the tablet, so how could Google promise to be able to switch between Android and Windows?
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Partially true.
Windows 8 ARM based tablets do have to have secure boot enabled, it can't be disabled, only signed OS's will boot, and only MS can sign the OS's, so basically for ARM based Windows 8 tablets (at least if the company selling it wants the "Windows 8" sticker), they will be locked to MS, until someone hacks it.
For x86 based Windows 8 tablets and PC's, they must ship with secure boot enabled, but you will be able to disable that in Bios/Uefi and load OS's without signed bootloaders (like android, linux, etc).
Basically the same situation we have now. ARM based tablets from Google partners and Apple have a locked bootloader, so no other OS can be loaded, unless you hack it.

tmcquake said:
I think Digitimes is losing something in their translation from their Taiwanese supply contacts. We can pretty safely assume, that Jellybean will not be released in Q2 2012. It will likely be previewed at Google I/O (which is in Q2) and released in late Q4 2012 with the new nexus device. Also, the version number is more likely to be 4.1 not 5.0 since Jellybean will be building upon the new interface paradigms introduced in ICS. Similar to how Froyo and GB were point releases after Eclair.
That's my gut feeling anyway, for what its worth.
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It does seem like a quick transition from ICS to Jelly Bean... I agree with you.

tmcquake said:
I think Digitimes is losing something in their translation from their Taiwanese supply contacts. We can pretty safely assume, that Jellybean will not be released in Q2 2012. It will likely be previewed at Google I/O (which is in Q2) and released in late Q4 2012 with the new nexus device. Also, the version number is more likely to be 4.1 not 5.0 since Jellybean will be building upon the new interface paradigms introduced in ICS. Similar to how Froyo and GB were point releases after Eclair.
That's my gut feeling anyway, for what its worth.
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1, Google announced it will push updates to Android every 6th month. So counting from November 17th, it would be around the middle of May. It won't be previewed, but released at Google I/O, with the new Nexus device (just as before, and also probably the attendants are getting a free device too).
2, Google told, that from now on, with ICS, they are stepping in major version numbers for each main release. So JB is for sure 5.0.x, and ICS will be 4.x going on.

JoTeC said:
It does seem like a quick transition from ICS to Jelly Bean... I agree with you.
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Companies are moving to quicker and quicker release cycles with less and less content. Really small, focused updates. Google themselves basically started this trend (or popularized it if they didn't actually start it) with the Chrome browser, which releases frequently. You have have noticed that FireFox has gone from version 3.x to version 10.1 in record time, as they have adopted the same mentality. I would not be shocked at all to see Google apply it to Andorid, and we start seeing Android 5, 6, 7, etc., at a rapid pace.
EDIT: oops, fonix232 beat me to it.

fonix232 said:
1, Google announced it will push updates to Android every 6th month. So counting from November 17th, it would be around the middle of May. It won't be previewed, but released at Google I/O, with the new Nexus device (just as before, and also probably the attendants are getting a free device too).
2, Google told, that from now on, with ICS, they are stepping in major version numbers for each main release. So JB is for sure 5.0.x, and ICS will be 4.x going on.
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My post was speculation, you seem to be stating facts. What sources are you basing this on (besides just stating "Google told")?

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My post was speculation, you seem to be stating facts. What sources are you basing this on (besides just stating "Google told")?
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I base my facts on reading the news and their announces from various pages, including Android Blog (d.android.com), XDA itself, AndroidPolice, and many other news sites, Google's and Jean-Baptiste Queru's (head of Android development, the talks-guy, pretty awesome dude!) Twitter, and many more.

fonix232 said:
I base my facts on reading the news and their announces from various pages, including Android Blog (d.android.com), XDA itself, AndroidPolice, and many other news sites, Google's and Jean-Baptiste Queru's (head of Android development, the talks-guy, pretty awesome dude!) Twitter, and many more.
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Good for you buddy, high five. Could you post some links then?

Does this come from anywhere besides Digitimes? They have a pretty hit and miss record for reporting the news.

tmcquake said:
Good for you buddy, high five. Could you post some links then?
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Do you seriously want me to look back half or even a year old entries on sites what are growing like 10post/day?

fonix232 said:
Do you seriously want me to look back half or even a year old entries on sites what are growing like 10post/day?
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Yes, seriously. Tell you what, provide 1 link that backs up your post.
Listen, don't take it personally. I don't know you so I can't take you at your word. I just want to something that backs up your claims. I follow android development pretty closely and I haven't read anywhere that android releases will be pushed to 6 months apart and all new releases will be full version numbers. AFAIK The last time that google commented on android development cycles was here,
http://androidandme.com/2010/06/news/interviews/android-will-move-to-a-yearly-update-cycle/
I just want a source so I can be better educated on the subject. It's not personal.

JoTeC said:
Viewing that the adoption of Android 4.0 has fallen short of original expectations and Microsoft will launch Windows 8 in the third quarter of 2012, Google is likely to launch Android 5.0 (Jelly Bean) in the second quarter and appeal for adopting Android 5.0 and Windows 8 in the same tablet PC, according to Taiwan-based supply chain makers.
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Oh, goodie, another rushed Android release. Because that just went *so* damned well with Honeycomb.
Seriously, if this has a grain of truth to it, Google need to get a clue, and finish writing and testing their software properly before they release it.

I want a source straight from the horse's mouth. Digitimes is a garbage source and all of the articles I've seen so far are equally garbage because they cite Digitimes which is a garbage source.
Nothing is authoritative here, there are no statements from Google.

Jelly Bean 5.0

I just found information that the unveiling of the new Jelly Bean 5.0 will be in Q2, so when we get 4.0 it is going to be already old and I doubt that we will get the update to 5.0
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!

Kalata_rs said:
I just found information that the unveiling of the new Jelly Bean 5.0 will be in Q2, so when we get 4.0 it is going to be already old and I doubt that we will get the update to 5.0
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Given that hardly any applications are available specifically for ICS yet, yet alone an unavailable future version, I personally don't see this as an issue.
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breckbit said:
Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I probably won't. I actually like the mobile OS on my mobile phone, regardless of the screen resolution and size.

breckbit said:
Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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Why would google release a tablet OS after merging both lines rather successfully? And I do use my Note with ICS tablet mode as daily driver.
Also, we'll probably see Jelly Bean phones come out after a while, ICS was previewed in May 2011 but was released in November.

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Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I was looking forward to use it that way ever since I bought the note. Then I finally had the chance to try imilka's aosp ics in tablet mode. It was like a dream come true at first but then I noticed letters look so small making it unpractical as a daily driver. My new dream is to be able to use the phone as it is in high resolution w/ big letters but apps to be opened in tablet resolution by choice.
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as mnetioned Jb will be tablet only and i also seen quite early release but Q3 .. not earlier

Truth be told, we don't know that yet. Let google first announce it then we can speculate if it'll come or not.

breckbit said:
Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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ICS was made to bridge the gap between tablet and phone...there is no way they will split the two again.
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damador said:
as mnetioned Jb will be tablet only and i also seen quite early release but Q3 .. not earlier
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But where is the logic? Google makes Honeycomb, and it fails big time (let's be honest guys, it did) so they make ICS which will unify Android again and it will run on both phones and tablets. A part of the fragmentation is gone.
But not for long..
Jelly Bean! Lets do the same mistake again.
I'm sorry, but no. They can't be that dumb. Android releases a new version of the OS every year. I guess we'll get a preview of JB at Google I/O, and it'll get released sooner this year, like last year. By releasing a tablet-only OS, the phone OS will be lagging behind.
It's bull****.
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LordManhattan said:
Jelly Bean! Lets do the same mistake again.
I'm sorry, but no. They can't be that dumb. Android releases a new version of the OS every year. I guess we'll get a preview of JB at Google I/O, and it'll get released sooner this year, like last year. By releasing a tablet-only OS, the phone OS will be lagging behind.
It's bull****.
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Sounds perfectly logical to me.

As ics is an update to the phone software, namely GB, and honeycomb hasnt had an updated version as yet it seems likely that Jellybean would be tablet focused, although it is possible to install it, its not going to have the comms requirements to be able to use the note as anything else but a tablet.
I hope android 5.0 is for phones, but i seriously doubt that google would release 2 major versions of their os within such a short period of time when ics is going to be concentrated on for a long time to come, so back to the start of the post, i think hes right, 5.0 will likely be for tablets, which is great news, honeycomb is really nice on the tablet, but to get an update would be awesome.

graemeg said:
As ics is an update to the phone software, namely GB, and honeycomb hasnt had an updated version as yet it seems likely that Jellybean would be tablet focused
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First of all, yes, ICS is just as much an update to HC. There is nothing phone-specific about it and as should be fairly obvious, there's plenty of tablet available with ICS nowadays. Secondly, no, Google went to great lengths to unify both the tablet version of Android and the phone version of it, they won't start breaking the unification again.
I hope android 5.0 is for phones, but i seriously doubt that google would release 2 major versions of their os within such a short period of time when ics is going to be concentrated on for a long time to come
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As said, Google shot itself in the foot by separating phone and tablet versions of Android. ICS was the first step in unifying them. The plan has always been to do a new major version once a year and obviously ICS was last-year.
, so back to the start of the post, i think hes right, 5.0 will likely be for tablets, which is great news, honeycomb is really nice on the tablet, but to get an update would be awesome.
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Install ICS on your tablet then. There is absolutely nothing stopping you.
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breckbit said:
Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os".
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No, they don't. That's unsubstantiated fanboy-rumour. There is no way of dual-booting Windows 8 and another OS unless Microsoft specifically allows it for several reasons: Windows 8 requires the system to have SecureBoot enabled and not disableable and that Microsoft will not sell the ARM-version of Windows 8 to anyone else than official Microsoft-partners.
Go ahead and google a bit, read about SecureBoot and you'll see already why that is just a rumour.
JellyBean will possibly have dual-boot, yes, but it won't support Win8; it'll be for booting between Android and ChromeOS, and possibly Linux.

Honeycomb was a band-aid release to give manufacturers an OS that ran semi-decently on tablets as the existing 2.x releases wouldn't scale properly and were completely unsuitable (didn't stop some manufacturers using it though, e.g. the original Galaxy Tab).
There's some info as well as the usual assortment of blind speculation in this article: http://www.techradar.com/news/softw...-things-we-want-to-see-in-android-5-0-1036013
Also info from a press conference regarding how ICS will unify the tablet & phone UI's: http://blogs.nvidia.com/2012/01/nvi...ice-cream-sandwich-to-unify-android-platform/
Unless Google would like to commit OS-suicide, there is no waythey would release a separate version for "larger" devices at this stage. The "fragmentation" issue is bad enough as it is without them back pedalling, there will only be one combined Android OS for all devices from ICS onwards.
Regardless though, odds of the Note getting Jellybean via an official release is basically nil. I for one won't care, by the time it'd be likely to actually be available I'll probably have a newer device anyway.

Yeah as linked above, google publicly stated they are merging tablet and phone OS into a single code base and ICS would be it. Sure enough we got ICS just like they said. Not in a million years are they gonna fork suddenly. They flat out said so.

RogerPodacter said:
Yeah as linked above, google publicly stated they are merging tablet and phone OS into a single code base and ICS would be it. Sure enough we got ICS just like they said. Not in a million years are they gonna fork suddenly. They flat out said so.
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Certainly hope so my friend, it is good news indeed if they are concentrating on one solid sytem for all devices, that would be awesome, although, i wont Knock Honeycomb and ive never updated from it because like so many others i need stability and have feared venturing into the unknown abyss so far, honeycomb is great software and works well enough so im not too worried, once ics official is released then i will have a look at it.
But yer thanks for all the feedback guys, thats great to hear that Jellybean is going to be multisystem and with the info youve provided then yes id have to agree with you all that it probably is going to be multiplatform, which is what id initially hoped it would be, great stuff.
Any speculation on month of release, of course its difficult to guess bearing in mind ICS seems to have been around for quite a while now, but its really all down to when samsung are going to release it, i know they said Q1 for ics but it hasnt happened thus far, so i cant imagine JB would be at the start of Q2, my suspicion is most definitley for closer to the end of 2012 or start of 2013.

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but its really all down to when samsung are going to release it, i know they said Q1 for ics but it hasnt happened thus far, so i cant imagine JB would be at the start of Q2, my suspicion is most definitley for closer to the end of 2012 or start of 2013.
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The release of Jelly Bean is in no way or form connected to when phone manufacturers ship ICS. ICS was already shown back in May in 2011, so that's almost a year ago now. Also, Jelly Bean is not as much of changing the fundamentals of Android as an OS as ICS was, it's more about honing the little things, smoothing the corners and putting the dressing on top like e.g. voice control.
That said, I assume JB will be released during Q3, not Q2. It'll likely be previewed during Q2, though, and that's when Google will announce the up-and-coming features and fixes.

When will Chocolate marshmellow be released!? I wonder if we'll get that update...

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When will Chocolate marshmellow be released!? I wonder if we'll get that update...
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Android never released versions A and B, those names are lost... As far as the public is concerned, it started with :
Cupcake
Donut
Eclair
Froyo
Gingerbread
Honeycomb
Ice Cream Sandwhich
Jelly Bean
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You missed your chance with C... marshmallow still holds a chance!

ICS was previewed in May 2011 and launched in October 2011. Over 5 months later ICS can only be found in 2-3% of current Android devices.
I have to wonder how putting on even more pressure on developers and raising the frustration of the users by launching version 5.0 while the huge majority is still waiting for the v4 update could help your market share.
This is a good read regarding this issue : http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Jelly-Bean-Android-Gingerbread-Ice-Cream-Sandwich,news-14545.html