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[Q] Could we get Honeycomb 3.0?

The Motorola Droid Bionic has been rumored to run Honeycomb 3.0 and from everything that I can tell the Bionic has the same screen dimensions as the Evo, 4.3inch screen. So is there any possibility that the Evo could get Honeycomb?
Engadget Droid Bionic Hands on:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/motorola-droid-bionic-hands-on/
PPCGeeks:
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/2011/01/11/...nning-android-3-0-from-our-tipster-honeycomb/

From what I've seen, Honeycomb requires a dual core processor and is currently being geared mainly towards tablets. Since we have yet to see a Gingerbread update, I would venture to say by the time Honeycomb hits, Sprint will already have an EVO successor.

Honeycomb does not require a dual core. The bionic does not run honeycomb, it runs froyo. There's very little hope of honeycomb officially landing on the EVO. Expect to flash a custom rom if you want it.
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Award Tour said:
Honeycomb does not require a dual core. The bionic does not run honeycomb, it runs froyo. There's very little hope of honeycomb officially landing on the EVO. Expect to flash a custom rom if you want it.
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From what I was reading there is a rumor that the Bionic will have 3.0.
Ill take flashing a rom thats how we get everything else thats cool

Award Tour said:
Honeycomb does not require a dual core. The bionic does not run honeycomb, it runs froyo. There's very little hope of honeycomb officially landing on the EVO. Expect to flash a custom rom if you want it.
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Well from what I was seeing at CES was the Bionic was running 2.3 Gingerbread. I saw that with my own eyes. "Honeycomb" does not have a minimum requirement according to everyone here, but they are also saying it's designed for "tablets" they are not mentioning phones.

splmonster said:
Well from what I was seeing at CES was the Bionic was running 2.3 Gingerbread. I saw that with my own eyes. "Honeycomb" does not have a minimum requirement according to everyone here, but they are also saying it's designed for "tablets" they are not mentioning phones.
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You saw wrong. It ships with 2.2.

Award Tour said:
You saw wrong. It ships with 2.2.
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+1....it has 2.2

splmonster said:
Well from what I was seeing at CES was the Bionic was running 2.3 Gingerbread. I saw that with my own eyes. "Honeycomb" does not have a minimum requirement according to everyone here, but they are also saying it's designed for "tablets" they are not mentioning phones.
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I've heard that honeycomb was designed for tablets but will also be put on phones

Guys...come on, we should all know by now that Google is sneaky and we won't know anything until its actually on hardware in public hands, and after that we are at the mercy of Sprint(for anything official). Sure we will get it, but most likely only from our great devs here. For now I am more than happy with froyo(warm RLS5) and will be upgrading as soon as sprint has a dual core handset, but defiantly keeping my Evo to play with!
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Well what about ice cream 2.4 on slate for summer

BrianDigital said:
Well what about ice cream 2.4 on slate for summer
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If you are talking about the SE phone that had it on there then... "On the software front, that random sighting of an Arc with Android 2.4 has been put down as a simple "misconfiguration" by Sony Ericsson" - source. Though I would take it with a grain of salt.

Yeah i'm seeing that on numerous sites. I guess it's even more funny the device I got my hands on at CES was using 2.3. I checked the software version within the settings. So don't be rude, because you obviously didn't attend CES.
http://www.examiner.com/smartphones-in-charlotte/motorola-droid-bionic-4g-impresses-at-2011-ces
He was at CES as well, and said it was running 2.3. So i'm not the only one.
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You saw wrong. It ships with 2.2.
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Will the Nexus S be receiving future Android updates?

Hi All,
I'm eyeing the Nexus S as a potential purchase in the coming days and simply wish to know if it is at all known at this time if the device will be receiving future Android Operating System updates post 2.3.4, e.g (next mobile major Android release). Will Google continue to support the device?

That is the entire point of owning a nexus device... so yes. The N1 is STILL receiving updates so you can expect the S to be receiving them for a few more years

If there's any new firmware that google will release, the Nexus S is for sure to receive it first.

Anyone have an idea when we might see another update?
I've done my fair share of googling but seem to get mixed messages so what do you guys think?

It'll get ice cream sandwich for sure

amedika said:
Anyone have an idea when we might see another update?
I've done my fair share of googling but seem to get mixed messages so what do you guys think?
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can you please site the sites you google that states a nexus phone wont get updates.
as for your answer read the posts above your last post
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cdesai said:
It'll get ice cream sandwich for sure
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I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices

I doubt ice cream is designed solely for dual core phones. The Nexus line will get it for sure. The Nexus phones will probably start up to date for at least 2 years from their release.
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And ice cream will come out this fall out winter
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mikeyinid said:
I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
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That's like saying Quad core CPUs came out. Let's discontinue support for Dual Cores! No. ICS will be backwards compatible. Dual Core (or quad cores at that point) will be able to take full advantage of the OS.

zephiK said:
That's like saying Quad core CPUs came out. Let's discontinue support for Dual Cores! No. ICS will be backwards compatible. Dual Core (or quad cores at that point) will be able to take full advantage of the OS.
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guys, calm down. I did say from a rather unreliable source. I dont buy it either.

ICS might habe limitations to small screen size devices due to it's hw/sw-buttonless nature, but I don't think it'll be excluding those 800mhz+ phones released within the last 6 months. If it's exclusively for dual core, how many ICS capable devices we'd have right now, 2?
I mean "forcing" ppl to replace their not even 1y old phones for the biggest Android update ever would be a bad idea. I can only talk for myself but this might be drawing me away from Android OS (Bad comparison inc, even the iphone 3g is rumored to get iOS 5). Hope the smartphone OS market will be picking up speed again, Google seems to be slacking to me.

ICS will run on most phones.. it has been said that it will run on both high end phones and low end ones.
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rentaric said:
ICS might habe limitations to small screen size devices due to it's hw/sw-buttonless nature, but I don't think it'll be excluding those 800mhz+ phones released within the last 6 months. If it's exclusively for dual core, how many ICS capable devices we'd have right now, 2?
I mean "forcing" ppl to replace their not even 1y old phones for the biggest Android update ever would be a bad idea. I can only talk for myself but this might be drawing me away from Android OS (Bad comparison inc, even the iphone 3g is rumored to get iOS 5). Hope the smartphone OS market will be picking up speed again, Google seems to be slacking to me.
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Slacking? They came out and said after Froyo they would slow down on their releases...
The first 5 release were all bug fixes... now it's actual OS enhancements.

mikeyinid said:
I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
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Wth are you talking about? all ice cream sandwich does/is going to do is close the gap between gingerbread and honeycomb and maybe add software only buttons.
The Nexus S WILL GET IT and for that matter...so may the N1....

I'm pretty positive N1 will get ICS, and even most of the future updates unless it comes to hardware limitation.
@OP nexus phones are the most future proof when it comes to software updating, even with a nexus one you can't go wrong. Don't hesitate to get the nexus S btw, one hellava phone.

They better not make us wait 3+ months to get the update like they did for N1 users and GB. For me, ICS better be a pretty significant upgrade, otherwise I'll be going away from the Android platform. Really not a fan of the design and presentation.

if doesn't, i swear, i will buy a Nokia 1660.
it will be incredibly pointless if the android is supposed to "end with the fragmentation" doesn't come to previous nexus devices.

thiagodark said:
if doesn't, i swear, i will buy a Nokia 1660.
it will be incredibly pointless if the android is supposed to "end with the fragmentation" doesn't come to previous nexus devices.
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Which fragmentation are they talking about? I guess it's just the differences between tablet (3.1) and smartphones (2.x.x) but smart move getting everyone hyped about ICS.
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mikeyinid said:
I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
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That's been said about every version since Froyo
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Android 2.4 aka ice cream sandwich will come in October / November

Eric Schmidt, Dreamforce Conference San Francisco
" We have a new operating system, internally known as Ice Cream Sandwich for some reason, which is being released in October/November, which everyone's really excited about."

Yeah right
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Jason123420 said:
Yeah right
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uhh...yeah...right

For XPeria X10?
Hello!
This new version will run on my Xperia X10?
This is the Xperia X10 forum, so i guess this version will run, but i need to know

afmdkqc said:
Hello!
This new version will run on my Xperia X10?
This is the Xperia X10 forum, so i guess this version will run, but i need to know
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Well there is no official update for X10 by that time sadly.
But Sony has announced that the 2011 phones will have the update, which I think devs will be able to port it onto our X10s. Moreover there would be a CM version of it as well.

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aR_ChRiS said:
Well there is no official update for X10 by that time sadly.
But Sony has announced that the 2011 phones will have the update, which I think devs will be able to port it onto our X10s. Moreover there would be a CM version of it as well.
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Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?

afmdkqc said:
Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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who knows??
The sdk isn't out, and google hasn't released the recommended minimum specs, etc...
It's a dumb convo at the moment, since there is no possible way to answer your question

I heard that the new update will be made to run even on some low spec phones so it might be possible
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negrobembon said:
I heard that the new update will be made to run even on some low spec phones so it might be possible
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I watch Google i/o all the time and they did say that they will be releasing it for low spec phones. But the problem is SE. They wont want to spend money on a phone from last year so I hate to say it. The X10 will not get 4.0 ICS officially but unofficially yes we will.
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stock roms?
lets wait for the devs to make custom android 4.0 roms so that we can use it in our aging-and-losing-official-support x10..

Devin-J said:
lets wait for the devs to make custom android 4.0 roms so that we can use it in our aging-and-losing-official-support x10..
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"losing" it was lost since july 29
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I may have to upgrade my phone for ice cream lol

Can the x10 rly go much faster?

Doubt there will be any devs left by them
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Ice cream sandwich will be epic
There has been a few sneek peaks on the web and I like what I've seen!
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I hope it can become a reality in our x10 ... Our devs have done a great job. By Sony Ericsson we can't expect anything because they said they will not upgrade beyond 2.3, remember that they said the same thing with the upgrade to 2.1 and now we have our phones with 2.3

I'm fine with SE not releasing 4.0 for the X10. It's an old phone and I don't expect SE to bankrupt themselves just to do so. Gingerbread is pretty robust and there's a huge number of apps that work with it, it's not going anywhere for a while. I think the only other phone from that Android era that will get 4.0 is maybe the Nexus One.
However, since the '11 Xperia range *is* getting ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich), they are probably going to use the same kernel (2.3.32 - based on their prior history). With that said; Their's absolutely no reason why the devs won't be able to port ICS to the X10 (unless if Google does a 180 and doesn't release the source code - like they had with Honeycomb). As far as an official 4.0 for the X10, I doubt it and there's no reason to get anyone's hopes up or else we're going to have another full on XDA SE X10 revolt like before, haha.
It can change but I think ICS will see the X10 only through the devs.

afmdkqc said:
Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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Ice cream sandwich
or Android 4
Is "scale able"
The x10 now has a unlocked bootloader.
So it may be possible for someone to port it.

Currently honeycomb is running successfully on new tab device
I am waiting for that one on my x10
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If 4.0 launches in December then we may have to wait till march
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i hope by then there will still be dev to write for the x10. i will be using the x10 for another few years.

Google Dog Testing now on!!!!

Icys is closer than we thought google has now began official testing or dog testing meaning that all the google employees have recieved the update!!!!!!!!!
For anymore info on this or to get the exact words from google visit pocket lint or the other ten websites just thought id share
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Well they just have it up on the Nexus S officialy but you can bet Asus is hard at work getting it ready for us

Dark lord me said:
Well they just have it up on the Nexus S officialy but you can bet Asus is hard at work getting it ready for us
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I hope so i want my TF101 christmas present !!!!!!!!!!
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So, you piqued my interest, and I went and started searching for ICS features and stuff. Anyway, what are the main differences we'll be seeing on our transformers? It sounds like this update is more important for phones because a lot of features sound Honeycomb-esque (except for the swipe on the multi-task roulette to kill apps, that sounds awesome).

asdfuogh said:
So, you piqued my interest, and I went and started searching for ICS features and stuff. Anyway, what are the main differences we'll be seeing on our transformers? It sounds like this update is more important for phones because a lot of features sound Honeycomb-esque (except for the swipe on the multi-task roulette to kill apps, that sounds awesome).
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There are so many changes this update is from the ground up in comparison to honeycomb
Think of honeycomb as the brainstorm and testing ideas and ice cream sandwich as the finished product
Framework changes UI changes memory management changes face detection improved multi tasking etc etc theres to much to list but its huge!!!!
What dog testing means is that google employees are now using a OTA of ice cream sandwich a mock up public release so to speak they say its a alpha but really its a late beta if they are sticking to there schedule plus why would they OTA a very ruff build no point so it has to be late stages or theres no point testing it on a specific device right?
Id say if they are doing this its a sign of fine tunning and getting out real world issues and bugs
Have i read but im hopefull for late december
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Danzano said:
There are so many changes this update is from the ground up in comparison to honeycomb
Think of honeycomb as the brainstorm and testing ideas and ice cream sandwich as the finished product
Framework changes UI changes memory management changes face detection improved multi tasking etc etc theres to much to list but its huge!!!!
What dog testing means is that google employees are now using a OTA of ice cream sandwich a mock up public release so to speak they say its a alpha but really its a late beta if they are sticking to there schedule plus why would they OTA a very ruff build no point so it has to be late stages or theres no point testing it on a specific device right?
Id say if they are doing this its a sign of fine tunning and getting out real world issues and bugs
Have i read but im hopefull for late december
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Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.

redbullcat said:
Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.
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Gingerbread, Honeycomb and ICS seem to be the start of something good
Android is still a baby in OS terms, Windows is an Old boy now but Windows 7 was the first decent OS since .... maybe 2000 or XP if you like that kind of thing
Computers are only just becoming powerful and affordable if you look at even 5 years ago
In the next 10 years we will see magic happen, in 20 years we will be laughing at the things we call cutting edge today and I am planning on being here in another 40 years time, just imagine...

You guys know that ICS is fully out on the Galaxy Nexus, which is already released in Europe, right?

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Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.
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I meant more this release of android is nearing completion for the list of devices getting OTA's including our TF101
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redbullcat said:
Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.
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While I have no argument with Matias' comments, I do think that Android is, by now, a mature product compared to where it was with the 1.x or even 2.x versions.

Ice Cream not as good as Gingerbread claim Sony !

Sorry title should say Ice Cream Sandwich.
I mean really ?
Comment on wether you think this is really the case ?
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/ice-cream-sandwich-not-as-good-as-gingerbread-says-sony-50007560/

Sony has a real bad habit of acting like twats whenever they release a software update.
"Oh, you guys don't need Froyo, our version of Eclair is the tits!"

So true
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Bacondroid said:
Sony has a real bad habit of acting like twats whenever they release a software update.
"Oh, you guys don't need Froyo, our version of Eclair is the tits!"
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To be fair to Sony, at least they're bringing ICS.

Ageeed its obvious why sony does this stuff tho because when people are pissed everyone is talking about the device
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I like how they seem to think it's gonna run like crap. Like its gonna be the Windows Vista of the Xperia range.
Personally, after using the Ice Cream Sony ROM, I think it runs better than Gingerbread
However, that ROM has all the shovelware stripped out and frees up a LOT of internal storage. The real ICS is probably gonna be stuffed to the gills of Sony crap. I'm just gonna stick with this ROM
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CTU_Loscombe said:
I like how they seem to think it's gonna run like crap. Like its gonna be the Windows Vista of the Xperia range.
Personally, after using the Ice Cream Sony ROM, I think it runs better than Gingerbread
However, that ROM has all the shovelware stripped out and frees up a LOT of internal storage. The real ICS is probably gonna be stuffed to the gills of Sony crap. I'm just gonna stick with this ROM
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Actually Sony will give you an option to disable all the bloatware that will come in ICS which is a awesome thing !

sufy1000 said:
Actually Sony will give you an option to disable all the bloatware that will come in ICS which is a awesome thing !
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Any source on that?
Not that I'm ever going back to a stock ROM anyway but that has intrigued me somewhat.
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CTU_Loscombe said:
Any source on that?
Not that I'm ever going back to a stock ROM anyway but that has intrigued me somewhat.
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Here ya go
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/04/0...debate/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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I don't think it is that Gingerbread is "better" than ICS, but it is certainly better for current devices (dual core and less) in terms of performance. It's like installing Windows 7 on a Pentium 4. It works, but it will be slow due to CPU performance.
Honestly, I have zero issues with Gingerbread on the Play. I tried ICS for awhile. It was nice, but the loss of performance was just too much to handle. I went back to Gingerbread and everything is smooth, fast...a great gameplay experience.
I won't be moving to ICS until I own a quad core gaming phone

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I don't think it is that Gingerbread is "better" than ICS, but it is certainly better for current devices (dual core and less) in terms of performance. It's like installing Windows 7 on a Pentium 4. It works, but it will be slow due to CPU performance.
Honestly, I have zero issues with Gingerbread on the Play. I tried ICS for awhile. It was nice, but the loss of performance was just too much to handle. I went back to Gingerbread and everything is smooth, fast...a great gameplay experience.
I won't be moving to ICS until I own a quad core gaming phone
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mmm interesting. I think i'm gonna have to make a wise decision about upgrading to ICS when it's released.

Okay, if you have an X10, and you are pissed it didn't get official ICS, don't read this, especially if you know where I live
First of all, whatever about the whole eclair/froyo thing, you got GB in the end anyway.
And what? Look, the Nexus One uses the same board as the X10, and Google aren't updating the nexus one. And Sony have enough devices to update.
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I'll tell you one thing. Battery life on the stock kernel on gingerbread is better than ANY other kernel on any other rom.

well imho the hype about ICS it overrated anyway.
If you see the differneces we will get - there is barely anything I need...
The only thing I like about it is the accelerated UI - making things smoother - but if the startup will take long there for - it isn't worht it... all the smoothness is gone by then.
and if u follow up the "resons for ICS" they mentioned- the list is a joke - list of gimmics - noting important - and the important ones can be done already by 3rd party software...
Even im looking forward to an update - casue im an update junkie - I rarhter w8 a bit longer - and if it is really "slower" I even would go back...

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well imho the hype about ICS it overrated anyway.
If you see the differneces we will get - there is barely anything I need...
The only thing I like about it is the accelerated UI - making things smoother - but if the startup will take long there for - it isn't worht it... all the smoothness is gone by then.
and if u follow up the "resons for ICS" they mentioned- the list is a joke - list of gimmics - noting important - and the important ones can be done already by 3rd party software...
Even im looking forward to an update - casue im an update junkie - I rarhter w8 a bit longer - and if it is really "slower" I even would go back...
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Wait till the update is out then flash a stock ICS rom. I'm using the Ice Cream Sony rom and it runs beautifully.
Roms based on stock tend to run better than the rom they are based on
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I tried ICS. The bugs made me think my phone had broken hardware, which was a freaking scary experience, and was excruciatingly slow compared to gingerbread.
Honestly, I don't think I'll bother updating unless the official stable release improves by a large enough margin.
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I mainly like the fact its mostly native support for those 3rd party apps. I'm looking forward to the update
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I also tryed the ice cream beta
thought that gingerbread worked better, better life, faster

wredj10 said:
I also tryed the ice cream beta
thought that gingerbread worked better, better life, faster
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Ofcourse It's going to work better.. The Ice cream sandwich rom we have is a beta. The only way we're going to know whats better is to be patient and wait for the final release rom. and then let our clever devs work on it. Personally, I'll be using ice cream sandwich, ram hog or not. The UI upgrades and the general little touches it adds are worth it in my opinion. Maybe not everyones opinion but it is mine.
I'm personally just greatful that sony are updating the phones. my brothers LG Optimus black got Gingerbread in january. We have a good company who learnt from their mistakes in the donut-eclair phases and are still giving us an ice cream sandwich update before a dual core motorola device with a gig of ram is going to get it, That shows their commitment I think.

DavieGee said:
Ofcourse It's going to work better.. The Ice cream sandwich rom we have is a beta. The only way we're going to know whats better is to be patient and wait for the final release rom. and then let our clever devs work on it. Personally, I'll be using ice cream sandwich, ram hog or not. The UI upgrades and the general little touches it adds are worth it in my opinion. Maybe not everyones opinion but it is mine.
I'm personally just greatful that sony are updating the phones. my brothers LG Optimus black got Gingerbread in january. We have a good company who learnt from their mistakes in the donut-eclair phases and are still giving us an ice cream sandwich update before a dual core motorola device with a gig of ram is going to get it, That shows their commitment I think.
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The Ice Cream Sony Rom runs better than the stock Gingerbread
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