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New phone April - Not Ice Cream - But has Android 2.4

Another phone looks to be coming in April, (via BGR). Hopefully we also get 2.4 as soon as this launches, and that we don't have to wait...
http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/07/android-2-4-reportedly-lands-in-april-viewsonic-among-first-to-launch/

uhhhhhhh... interesting to see ViewSonic coming to the battleground
they used to be famous for their Displays and Monitors... i wonder if they plan to release their own screens to fight against Samsung & Sony

AllGamer said:
uhhhhhhh... interesting to see ViewSonic coming to the battleground
they used to be famous for their Displays and Monitors... i wonder if they plan to release their own screens to fight against Samsung & Sony
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Should be interesting. Also, I had not heard of a ViewSonic phone before this article, and I am not sure if I am liking its design.
Nonetheless, based on what you said, it's good to see others come along and hopefully compete with Samsung, especially since so many people do not like or want a Samsung phone - other than to have Samsung's beautiful phone screen.

Bmerz said:
Should be interesting. Also, I had not heard of a ViewSonic phone before this article, and I am not sure if I am liking its design.
Nonetheless, based on what you said, it's good to see others come along and hopefully compete with Samsung, especially since so many people do not like or want a Samsung phone - other than to have Samsung's beautiful phone screen.
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that's exactly my problem
I love their screens, but not so much their bugged phones

AllGamer said:
that's exactly my problem
I love their screens, but not so much their bugged phones
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Ditto. There are a few other interesting forays into the smartphone market this year like vizio. Ill add a link when I get back to my computer
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Would the nexus s get the update before its released on another phone?
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If they don't update us before or at the same time the phone releases, this will be my last android device.
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meetagrawal said:
If they don't update us before or at the same time the phone releases, this will be my last android device.
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it doesn't work that way you see...
we on SNS got 2.3 before any body else
including the old HTC N1 which are still stuck on 2.2 officially
unofficial ROM cooks of course released 2.3
so chances are we'll see the same with 2.4 or 3.0

benifactor said:
Would the nexus s get the update before its released on another phone?
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I've seen two(2) videos showing 2.4 in the NS.
One of them showed 2.4 build GRI06B.
I'm not sweating...
Look in the I9023 thread.
Worst case: more fragmentation with I9020 2.3 and I9023 with 2.4...both being NS. haha

AllGamer said:
it doesn't work that way you see...
we on SNS got 2.3 before any body else
including the old HTC N1 which are still stuck on 2.2 officially
unofficial ROM cooks of course released 2.3
so chances are we'll see the same with 2.4 or 3.0
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Well, the way they're treating N1 owners right now is rubbing me the wrong way, but I'm willing to give them benefit of the doubt. In fact, they could be just waiting till 2.4 is ready to give it to both Nexus 1 and Nexus S. We buy the Nexus phones partly because we are supposed to be given updates on a first priority basis. If Google decides to hold back 2.4 from us for another phone, they will have lost an Android supporter in me.

AllGamer said:
uhhhhhhh... interesting to see ViewSonic coming to the battleground
they used to be famous for their Displays and Monitors... i wonder if they plan to release their own screens to fight against Samsung & Sony
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They already have an Android Device the "g Tablet". Although from what I have read the reviews say the screen sucks (poor viewing angle), surprises me since that is what they do. On another note the g Tablet has Android 2.2 and nVidia Tegra 2
...viewsonic.com/gtablet/

meetagrawal said:
Well, the way they're treating N1 owners right now is rubbing me the wrong way, but I'm willing to give them benefit of the doubt. In fact, they could be just waiting till 2.4 is ready to give it to both Nexus 1 and Nexus S. We buy the Nexus phones partly because we are supposed to be given updates on a first priority basis. If Google decides to hold back 2.4 from us for another phone, they will have lost an Android supporter in me.
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I'd bet my meager reputation that we get it before.
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I'd be shocked if we didn't get the 2.4 update, at the time of its launch. Especially since 2.4 doesn't seem to be Ice Cream, but rather a touch of Honey glazed over Gingerbread.
While I am kind of new to Android (and smart phones in general), I cannot see Google keeping this update from us NS users. Although, I am a little surprised that the N1 hasn't seen Gingerbread yet (OTA from Google that is).
Just curious, how many updates did the N1 get from the time of its launch, and what Android version did it start with (Eclair or Froyo?).

I'm really surprised the N1 hasn't seen GB officially yet. I would be curious to see 2.4

Bmerz said:
I'd be shocked if we didn't get the 2.4 update, at the time of its launch. Especially since 2.4 doesn't seem to be Ice Cream, but rather a touch of Honey glazed over Gingerbread.
While I am kind of new to Android (and smart phones in general), I cannot see Google keeping this update from us NS users. Although, I am a little surprised that the N1 hasn't seen Gingerbread yet (OTA from Google that is).
Just curious, how many updates did the N1 get from the time of its launch, and what Android version did it start with (Eclair or Froyo?).
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N1 came with eclair and then got froyo 2 months later I believe.
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Not liking the Viewsonic design. I thought it was an external HDD.
I hope that the Nexus S gets its update, well if not at the same time as the release of the Viewsonic phone, at least a week or two after.

Bmerz said:
I'd be shocked if we didn't get the 2.4 update, at the time of its launch. Especially since 2.4 doesn't seem to be Ice Cream, but rather a touch of Honey glazed over Gingerbread.
While I am kind of new to Android (and smart phones in general), I cannot see Google keeping this update from us NS users. Although, I am a little surprised that the N1 hasn't seen Gingerbread yet (OTA from Google that is).
Just curious, how many updates did the N1 get from the time of its launch, and what Android version did it start with (Eclair or Froyo?).
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the phone started with Eclair and it was approximately 6 months until OTA Froyo.

kenvan19 said:
N1 came with eclair and then got froyo 2 months later I believe.
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More like 6 months later for the official OTA.
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krohnjw said:
More like 6 months later for the official OTA.
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When did the first phone with Froyo launch? Or was N1 the 1st to get it?

terra_droid said:
Not liking the Viewsonic design. I thought it was an external HDD.
I hope that the Nexus S gets its update, well if not at the same time as the release of the Viewsonic phone, at least a week or two after.
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that's exactly what i though as well when i first saw the picture. LOL

Was the 2.3.3 update the last one N1 will get?

I'm quite happy with the performance of my N1 after it got Gingerbread 2.3.3. and I don't believe I'll change my phone until 2013, but, ¿was this the last update/upgrade we will get?

Highly unlikely. The Nexus One is currently Google's official developer phone. That probably won't be changing before the next Android release.

I can see it getting Ice Cream Sandwich or whatever it's being called, and then that'll be it. I can see future versions will be dual-core phones only.

Probably will be more updates...but when is anyones guess.

i think it will get one more major update, at least. probably nothign after that. who knows though...its been a miracle little phone thus far.

The next Nexus will probably take over as the developer phone. Dual Core is the wave of the future. Speculation of course. Who really knows at this point. We are far from another Nexus.
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do you think that there could come an update that the Nexus One just couldn't run for performance reasons?

bourne-nolonger said:
do you think that there could come an update that the Nexus One just couldn't run for performance reasons?
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no not at all. if google wanted to optimize android to be better, the nexus one could handle it. look at windows phone 7 devices. microsoft requires all WP7 devices to have the same hardware cpu and GPU as what the nexus one has, qualcom first gen cpu with adreno 200 GPU, and WP7 devices are the smoothest and fastest UI ever done. microsoft just optimized the graphics with great drivers etc.
so the nexus one is still capable, but whether google will ever optimize, doubt it.
and no i dont think they will make android UI such that its so graphics heavy that only dual core phones can use it. not for couple years at least from now.

The next Nexus will be released later this year and the N1 will not receive another timely update.

Another thread of guesswork.
Please state your official sources - or write "I guess that ...".
On the other hand, the OP is to blame - I don't recall we have official Google speaker on the forum that can answer this question reliably, and everything else will be guesswork until the next update is officially affirmed/declined.

XDA is no longer worth my time.

I think that time is over for our Nexus One. Unfortunately :-(
I think that Gingerbread was the last update that we received.
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We may stop getting 'official' updates eventually but that doesn't mean we won't get them at all. As long as we have the likes of Cyanogen developing for the phone we'll still get updates of the custom variety.
Most people will have moved on to other devices by then anyway.

I do not know but what was the last official update the G1 got? I can recall it going beyond the official updates (with custom ROMs of course).
The crappy parts will that it won't be able to do video chat, NFC (w/o an microSD NFC card) and won't be able to handle anything dual-core specific. Other than that the phone is a beast and was a complete monster in January 2010.

Well looks like 2.3.4 will come to N1, albeit without the biggest upgrade of the update.
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Bring it on! My Nexus is ready for a 2.3.4 update!

So what do you guys think about Ice Cream?

So Google I/O they Announced the new Android update what do you guys think? and do you guys think the update be available for N1 users?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/

Yeah, just saw it on Android and Me as well:
http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
I'm curious as well..

What I think is it won't come to the Nexus One. Google said that they're aiming for 18 months guaranteed update for a phone, and the Nexus One is conveniently almost at the 18 months mark.

Mokurex said:
What I think is it won't come to the Nexus One. Google said that they're aiming for 18 months guaranteed update for a phone, and the Nexus One is conveniently almost at the 18 months mark.
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I'm actually optimistic about it since they didn't say the minimal specs for Ice cream, Also I'm Sure the Nexus S still supported which specs are not too far apart NS still runs a Single Core

Mokurex said:
What I think is it won't come to the Nexus One. Google said that they're aiming for 18 months guaranteed update for a phone, and the Nexus One is conveniently almost at the 18 months mark.
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I believe that was in referrence to Manufactures and how long they are required to support a device with current updates granting the hardware can handle it.
Google branded devices to my understanding ( they never stated otherwise ) will continue to be updated nexus1 included for many updates to come.
Glad they are merging into just one OS. While we might not like to Admit it .. thats a apple stratedgy to make one OS that fits all, makes updates much easier to manage.
However this is GOOGLE and i am sure they will be do it better than rotten apple.

I don't believe they will spend their time on the N1... I guess we're done with the N1

Hopefully they learned from the "version mess" bad news currently going through the press and "one OS for all" means really for all and every product including the nexus one and other hardware.

decodecoding said:
I don't believe they will spend their time on the N1... I guess we're done with the N1
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That is what I thought in the begging but now I actually think they will for the simple fact N1 was and still is A developer phone and specs still relevant.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Nexus One gets left out of this, it's already been from 2.1 to 2.3. Neither of the 2 previous dev phones have recieved this many updates in the first place.
Lets hope the new nexus device for this year is a phone and not a tablet!

Ice Cream Sandwich is scheduled for a Q4 release and will come with a new Nexus device, dual core or possibly quad core. I just hope its the Galaxy S2 frame, with all the codec support and Gorilla Glass =)
Nexus S will MOST LIKELY get updated as they just released the 4G version on Sprint. Nexus One is similar to the Nexus S bar NFC and FFC. The coupled Hardware Acceleration should make it fly even for a single core old Snapdragon though...
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OJ in Compton said:
Wouldn't surprise me if the Nexus One gets left out of this, it's already been from 2.1 to 2.3. Neither of the 2 previous dev phones have recieved this many updates in the first place.
Lets hope the new nexus device for this year is a phone and not a tablet!
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By Google not releasing Ice Cream to N1 owners would be the whole opposite of what Google is trying to advocate to manufactures & carriers. even if they said a 18 months which I think they should of made it 24 months it would of made more sense to people.

N1 is gonna get that update if NS gets that update, that's for sure.

In the end, I don't care if there is an official release from Google for the N1. Dev's here on XDA will port it over anyway.

garfnodie said:
In the end, I don't care if there is an official release from Google for the N1. Dev's here on XDA will port it over anyway.
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I actually don't mind running stock I just wish I could use setcpu without rooting that would be my dream.

I like all the tweaking options that CM gives you, coupled with the full version of ADW Launcher EX and it's perfect.

IceCream should hopefully make for a cool desert on my N1

Nexus One is the current developer phone. Unless it gets replaced, it will get the update.

GldRush98 said:
Nexus One is the current developer phone. Unless it gets replaced, it will get the update.
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... the nexus S is the current dev phone.

mrxniick said:
... the nexus S is the current dev phone.
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No, the Nexus One is the current developer phone.
http://developer.android.com/index.html
First page, then click Dev Phones. You'll see the HTC Magic and the Nexus One.

mrxniick said:
... the nexus S is the current dev phone.
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Nope, the Nexus S is not a Google Dev Phone. The most recent Google Dev Phone is still the Nexus One and can be purchased by developers from Google directly. The Nexus S is consumer focused, and there's a thread in the Nexus S forum that heavily denounce being called a Dev phone.

Xoom and android 4.0

I was just reading a news article on pulse about the testing of a quad core xoom, with ice cream sandwich
Which led me to wonder, will the original xoom get 4.0 sometime after the release of such a device?
Not trying to ask for a definitive answer
I just wonder what the general consensus of peoples opinions on the xoom getting android 4.0
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I remember I saw it somewhere that Motorola is to support software upgrade for 18 months from the org Xoom release date. If that's truth, we shall see ICS on the 1st generation Xoom.

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I remember I saw it somewhere that Motorola is to support software upgrade for 18 months from the org Xoom release date. If that's truth, we shall see ICS on the 1st generation Xoom.
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Yes, but they said IF hardware is compatible, so they can always say it isn't.

In positive it will be, offical or otherwise. ICS is supposed to have the buttons from android 1.x and 2.x moved into a 3.x screen solution, and we do by all indicatioms have the horsepower to run it. If you think that ICS is to unify phones and tablets, I don't foresee android becoming a quad core only affair partially on phones, ut also on tablets. And we have great devs along with unlockable bootloaders, so my money says we are golden one way or another.
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"One OS that runs everywhere." So ICS will probBly come to the Xoom.
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ı believe xoom will be one of the firsts to get the ICS update.. all versions have different release dates but averagely we can say it has been released in the beginning of the march 2011.. so it has to be updateable with every new android OS which will be announced until the september of 2012..
about the hardware; there still are single cored notebooks which run windows 7 around.. i cant think of an android system that xoom can not hande with its dual core, 1gb of ram and nvidia graphic card..

Don't get me wrong, i agree that Ice Cream Sandwich should work on current Xoom. I just don't want to get my hopes too high.
If the rumor about Xoom 2 being the next GED are true then i don't see Google pushing the Ice Scream to current Xooms on release day (compatible or not). Then i will probably just buy the next Xoom from US (hoping it will have a global 3G radio this time).

I imagine it will be second to see ICS
like nexus s got gingerbread first, nexus one got it second

poisike said:
Don't get me wrong, i agree that Ice Cream Sandwich should work on current Xoom. I just don't want to get my hopes too high.
If the rumor about Xoom 2 being the next GED are true then i don't see Google pushing the Ice Scream to current Xooms on release day (compatible or not). Then i will probably just buy the next Xoom from US (hoping it will have a global 3G radio this time).
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The whole idea behind ICS is to get EVERY android device on the same OS for consistancy... This being a GED device means that there is no way it won't get it. I'm sure its not going to work on the G1, but you know what I'm sayin.
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Ice cream Sandwich

All current gen Xperia models are going to be updated to Ice cream sandwich (Android 4.0) after October's 2.3.4 update!!!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/All-...ted-to-Android-4.0-Ice-Cream-Sandwich_id21947
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Just saw this and got so excited
Not only 2.3.4 in a month but 4.0 in the New Year.
SE is stepping up it's game

subcu1ture said:
Just saw this and got so excited
Not only 2.3.4 in a month but 4.0 in the New Year.
SE is stepping up it's game
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They have always been underrated(especially to Nokia in the Balkans)...and I don't understand how they are losing money on the play....

They are losing money because of their battered reputation for abandoning customers with their previous handsets. It seems like management has turned a new leaf. 2012 will probably be the now or never come back year for sony ericsson. They own like 1.7%of the market shares as of July =/ the earthquake played a big role at affecting those figures though.
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That's awesome news!
Hopefully Verizon doesn't slow down that update for us r800x users...but I'm not holding my breath. (Of course, barring any complications with r800x development it won't matter to those of us lucky enough to have locked in root.)
On that note, gosh I hope SE doesn't go under. They are currently the only company offering anything resembling a vanilla android experience on Verizon.
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Deoxlar said:
They are losing money because of their battered reputation for abandoning customers with their previous handsets.
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like the SE Arc S

Looking forward to this, to be honest I've never really liked Honeycomb (Ice cream sandwich is a mobile version of honeycomb according to a friend), I just hope Sony keep their timescape UI in, I really like it.
p.s Cool name "ice cream sandwich"

The names are all original
froyo,gingerbread,honeycomb,Ice cream sandwitch

It was a false alarm, Sony said they didn't make any decisions regarding this
phandroid.com/2011/09/08/ice-cream-sandwich-coming-to-all-2011-sony-ericsson-handsets/
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just like gingerbread on the x10, the COULD change their mind. so lets not give up hope too soon. i'm going to keep reserved on the news. neither getting too excited, but not dismissing it either. fingers crossed guys n gals

Read the article carefully... A London based small potatoes representative confirmed the 4.0 upgrade...... Not the ceo or any department head on charge of upgrades and firmware... Take the news with a grain of salt.... We don't even know 4.0 is a good for single core phones... I find gingerbread to run real smooth already.
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Now I'm confused..
Anyhow, If the new ICS will run great on our phone then that would be awesome..
I'm excited to know the full latest features, I'm excited to taste that new flavor..

I hope you all know that officially, sony have made no decision on if it will bring ICS to the 2011 range of experia devices.
Infact there current official stance is "When it comes to future platforms of the Android OS, we will make them available to consumers in a timely manner as long as they improve the user experience and are viable from a hardware point of view."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...o-bring-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-devices/

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We don't even know 4.0 is a good for single core phones... I find gingerbread to run real smooth already.
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Google is touting ICS as their one OS fits all design. It's extremely doubtful that it will be dual core only, considering that and A) Dual core handsets are still in their infancy B) The dual cores out there aren't really faster than the single cores. I can see ICS bringing improved support for dual core, but it's a retarded business decision for Google to cut out single core phones. Even the latest version of windows doesn't do that.
Also, who cares what Sony says, the developers on here will ensure that if we really want ICS on our phones we will be able to.

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The names are all original
froyo,gingerbread,honeycomb,Ice cream sandwitch
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Oh looks like it's alphabetical too hah..

brochador said:
Oh looks like it's alphabetical too hah..
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It is alphabetical didn't you know? it started with Cupcake, doughnut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb, ice cream sandwitch
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AndroHero said:
It is alphabetical didn't you know? it started with Cupcake, doughnut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb, ice cream sandwitch
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What about A and B?

speedyink said:
Google is touting ICS as their one OS fits all design. It's extremely doubtful that it will be dual core only, considering that and A) Dual core handsets are still in their infancy B) The dual cores out there aren't really faster than the single cores. I can see ICS bringing improved support for dual core, but it's a retarded business decision for Google to cut out single core phones. Even the latest version of windows doesn't do that.
Also, who cares what Sony says, the developers on here will ensure that if we really want ICS on our phones we will be able to.
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It won't just be for dual core as they have to deliver it to the NS and that's single core. I had the X10 and waited ages for the 2.1 update only to be dissatisfied because of how slow and laggy it was, still custom ROM's made up for SE's crap.
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Its based on honeycomb correct? Can anyone name 1 tablet that has a single core and runs honeycomb natively?

Nook Color, if I recall properly. It uses the very same Honeycomb as "native" tablets.
Plus, I want to remind you that dual cores are still top of the line. The midrange and low range of new devices (think of Optimus Sol or Galaxy Ace) will have to be updated too...