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So Google I/O they Announced the new Android update what do you guys think? and do you guys think the update be available for N1 users?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Yeah, just saw it on Android and Me as well:
http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
I'm curious as well..
What I think is it won't come to the Nexus One. Google said that they're aiming for 18 months guaranteed update for a phone, and the Nexus One is conveniently almost at the 18 months mark.
Mokurex said:
What I think is it won't come to the Nexus One. Google said that they're aiming for 18 months guaranteed update for a phone, and the Nexus One is conveniently almost at the 18 months mark.
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I'm actually optimistic about it since they didn't say the minimal specs for Ice cream, Also I'm Sure the Nexus S still supported which specs are not too far apart NS still runs a Single Core
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What I think is it won't come to the Nexus One. Google said that they're aiming for 18 months guaranteed update for a phone, and the Nexus One is conveniently almost at the 18 months mark.
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I believe that was in referrence to Manufactures and how long they are required to support a device with current updates granting the hardware can handle it.
Google branded devices to my understanding ( they never stated otherwise ) will continue to be updated nexus1 included for many updates to come.
Glad they are merging into just one OS. While we might not like to Admit it .. thats a apple stratedgy to make one OS that fits all, makes updates much easier to manage.
However this is GOOGLE and i am sure they will be do it better than rotten apple.
I don't believe they will spend their time on the N1... I guess we're done with the N1
Hopefully they learned from the "version mess" bad news currently going through the press and "one OS for all" means really for all and every product including the nexus one and other hardware.
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I don't believe they will spend their time on the N1... I guess we're done with the N1
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That is what I thought in the begging but now I actually think they will for the simple fact N1 was and still is A developer phone and specs still relevant.
Wouldn't surprise me if the Nexus One gets left out of this, it's already been from 2.1 to 2.3. Neither of the 2 previous dev phones have recieved this many updates in the first place.
Lets hope the new nexus device for this year is a phone and not a tablet!
Ice Cream Sandwich is scheduled for a Q4 release and will come with a new Nexus device, dual core or possibly quad core. I just hope its the Galaxy S2 frame, with all the codec support and Gorilla Glass =)
Nexus S will MOST LIKELY get updated as they just released the 4G version on Sprint. Nexus One is similar to the Nexus S bar NFC and FFC. The coupled Hardware Acceleration should make it fly even for a single core old Snapdragon though...
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OJ in Compton said:
Wouldn't surprise me if the Nexus One gets left out of this, it's already been from 2.1 to 2.3. Neither of the 2 previous dev phones have recieved this many updates in the first place.
Lets hope the new nexus device for this year is a phone and not a tablet!
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By Google not releasing Ice Cream to N1 owners would be the whole opposite of what Google is trying to advocate to manufactures & carriers. even if they said a 18 months which I think they should of made it 24 months it would of made more sense to people.
N1 is gonna get that update if NS gets that update, that's for sure.
In the end, I don't care if there is an official release from Google for the N1. Dev's here on XDA will port it over anyway.
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In the end, I don't care if there is an official release from Google for the N1. Dev's here on XDA will port it over anyway.
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I actually don't mind running stock I just wish I could use setcpu without rooting that would be my dream.
I like all the tweaking options that CM gives you, coupled with the full version of ADW Launcher EX and it's perfect.
IceCream should hopefully make for a cool desert on my N1
Nexus One is the current developer phone. Unless it gets replaced, it will get the update.
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Nexus One is the current developer phone. Unless it gets replaced, it will get the update.
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... the nexus S is the current dev phone.
mrxniick said:
... the nexus S is the current dev phone.
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No, the Nexus One is the current developer phone.
http://developer.android.com/index.html
First page, then click Dev Phones. You'll see the HTC Magic and the Nexus One.
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... the nexus S is the current dev phone.
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Nope, the Nexus S is not a Google Dev Phone. The most recent Google Dev Phone is still the Nexus One and can be purchased by developers from Google directly. The Nexus S is consumer focused, and there's a thread in the Nexus S forum that heavily denounce being called a Dev phone.
Hi All,
I'm eyeing the Nexus S as a potential purchase in the coming days and simply wish to know if it is at all known at this time if the device will be receiving future Android Operating System updates post 2.3.4, e.g (next mobile major Android release). Will Google continue to support the device?
That is the entire point of owning a nexus device... so yes. The N1 is STILL receiving updates so you can expect the S to be receiving them for a few more years
If there's any new firmware that google will release, the Nexus S is for sure to receive it first.
Anyone have an idea when we might see another update?
I've done my fair share of googling but seem to get mixed messages so what do you guys think?
It'll get ice cream sandwich for sure
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Anyone have an idea when we might see another update?
I've done my fair share of googling but seem to get mixed messages so what do you guys think?
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can you please site the sites you google that states a nexus phone wont get updates.
as for your answer read the posts above your last post
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cdesai said:
It'll get ice cream sandwich for sure
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I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
I doubt ice cream is designed solely for dual core phones. The Nexus line will get it for sure. The Nexus phones will probably start up to date for at least 2 years from their release.
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And ice cream will come out this fall out winter
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I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
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That's like saying Quad core CPUs came out. Let's discontinue support for Dual Cores! No. ICS will be backwards compatible. Dual Core (or quad cores at that point) will be able to take full advantage of the OS.
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That's like saying Quad core CPUs came out. Let's discontinue support for Dual Cores! No. ICS will be backwards compatible. Dual Core (or quad cores at that point) will be able to take full advantage of the OS.
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guys, calm down. I did say from a rather unreliable source. I dont buy it either.
ICS might habe limitations to small screen size devices due to it's hw/sw-buttonless nature, but I don't think it'll be excluding those 800mhz+ phones released within the last 6 months. If it's exclusively for dual core, how many ICS capable devices we'd have right now, 2?
I mean "forcing" ppl to replace their not even 1y old phones for the biggest Android update ever would be a bad idea. I can only talk for myself but this might be drawing me away from Android OS (Bad comparison inc, even the iphone 3g is rumored to get iOS 5). Hope the smartphone OS market will be picking up speed again, Google seems to be slacking to me.
ICS will run on most phones.. it has been said that it will run on both high end phones and low end ones.
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rentaric said:
ICS might habe limitations to small screen size devices due to it's hw/sw-buttonless nature, but I don't think it'll be excluding those 800mhz+ phones released within the last 6 months. If it's exclusively for dual core, how many ICS capable devices we'd have right now, 2?
I mean "forcing" ppl to replace their not even 1y old phones for the biggest Android update ever would be a bad idea. I can only talk for myself but this might be drawing me away from Android OS (Bad comparison inc, even the iphone 3g is rumored to get iOS 5). Hope the smartphone OS market will be picking up speed again, Google seems to be slacking to me.
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Slacking? They came out and said after Froyo they would slow down on their releases...
The first 5 release were all bug fixes... now it's actual OS enhancements.
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I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
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Wth are you talking about? all ice cream sandwich does/is going to do is close the gap between gingerbread and honeycomb and maybe add software only buttons.
The Nexus S WILL GET IT and for that matter...so may the N1....
I'm pretty positive N1 will get ICS, and even most of the future updates unless it comes to hardware limitation.
@OP nexus phones are the most future proof when it comes to software updating, even with a nexus one you can't go wrong. Don't hesitate to get the nexus S btw, one hellava phone.
They better not make us wait 3+ months to get the update like they did for N1 users and GB. For me, ICS better be a pretty significant upgrade, otherwise I'll be going away from the Android platform. Really not a fan of the design and presentation.
if doesn't, i swear, i will buy a Nokia 1660.
it will be incredibly pointless if the android is supposed to "end with the fragmentation" doesn't come to previous nexus devices.
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if doesn't, i swear, i will buy a Nokia 1660.
it will be incredibly pointless if the android is supposed to "end with the fragmentation" doesn't come to previous nexus devices.
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Which fragmentation are they talking about? I guess it's just the differences between tablet (3.1) and smartphones (2.x.x) but smart move getting everyone hyped about ICS.
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I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
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That's been said about every version since Froyo
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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
It will get the update.
SGS got its update, SGS2 got its update, SGS3 will get its update.
Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
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Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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h3llboy911 said:
DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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Get galaxy nexus.
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TheBlazingIndian said:
Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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kirdroid said:
This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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Rumor has it Samsung, HTC, etc have early access to Jellybean in order to make their Nexii. Previously everyone besides Samsung only had access when it was released.
Whether or not this affects the update schedule remains to be seen. If it doesn't, you can either expect early-mid 2013 for the update, or flash it yourself (no company, not even some ideal hypothetical, can compete with homebrew speed).
TheBlazingIndian said:
Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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What are you basing any of this on? I highly doubt we will see Android 5 this soon (unless it is purely a tablet OS, which I doubt).
Based on your logic, there is no point in buying an Android phone.
SlimJ87D said:
Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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This.
Android 5 or 4.1 will more then likely come in December just like ics and gingerbread before that. If this is true, this gives you 5 to 6 more months with ics and I doubt the s3 will be as old as you are thinking; sure better devices can come to the market in the next 6 months but let's be real, the s3 will be able to do everything for the next year to a year and a half just fine. I've been with the HTC inspire and this thing is 2 years old yet I rarely have any lag considering I use this for everything including gaming.
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Have perfect solution for u, don't by the SGS 3 and keep waiting for the perfect one, I have a Gnex and very much doubt that it will have Jelly Bean in a month or two or three , maybe more like 5 months and in the smartphone age that is like a year. Or go get a phone named after a fruit. See no one will get Jelly Bean before it makes it's debut on the next Gnex and thats just the way the cookie crumbles. Thank the fruity company for making the latest version the "best " one, at least with Samsung you get more from the next version then just S voice as they did with the 4S and a bit more power.
If you rooted, you won't bother whether Samsung update on time or not because you have everything the best XDA can offer you. If you are not rooted, obviously you are not software geek, why bother whether your GS3 running ICS, Jellybean, Gingerbread or any other version? Everything is a big problem to human if he or she want to think that way.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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yeah sorry you're right, I was certain I read the other day that they cancelled the plan but now I see it will get it july or august, still very late. And considering that, why wont sgs1 get it officially?
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having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
ye, even i was thinking about that problem but then i just thought that if android 5 comes out then i will use the customised rom
Custom rom/buy new phone.
Ive had enough of waiting for retarded companies to update things.
Motorola milestone - 6 months late, not fully functional (GB)
LG optimus 3d - not available till september 2012 (at the earliest), sold with the promise of prompt ics update, instead waiting more than a whole year.
Never waiting for an update again. Just gonna buy the new phones.
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mertzi said:
having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
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They messed up on the Dec update and probably had to redo. Unfortunately, company bureaucracy works much more slowly than we do, and a new update cycle can take 3-5 months. This is true for any company that offers warranties - they have to break as little as they can.
Had they not messed it up, however, NS could have had its upgrade hella quickly.
Don't want to deal with company bureaucracy? Flash homebrew (NS certainly had them much, much more quickly). Otherwise there's still no better option.
s3 will get official JB update and may be cm11 or cm12 for the other version of androids
This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
Billchen0014 said:
This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
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new os means a new nexus phone, so i doubt a new os is coming .. just a minor update if anything
Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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Think about it: it might be a new interface/design for a tablet, Android really need something solid if they want any chance of fighting iOS and windows RT.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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Considering that it seems like RAM usage is going relatively well within ICS, i can't see any worry about that there. 1GB would've helped in any situation, not just moving toward JB which likely wouldn't make a difference. That's the main thing that could have held the NS back. I'm with you unless IO implies anything otherwise. I'm thinking alot more will have to do with dual and quad core setups than our NSs single, particularly with the idea of constant framerates in mind. I see how there isn't that much left to do in the same environment and considering how much effort was put into ICS little will change that's not well below what we see happening, and most of that relates directly to performance and basically making the UI smoother, prettier and maybe a touch more colourful.
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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
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I think that if it's more bloated and non-optimized, even less handsets could possibly get it then ICS. So I'm more positive NS will get it
Seeing as ICS was meant to be a unification of tablet/smartphone OS, I don't think they would release another tablet exclusive OS to tear that unity apart again. Also, if we're learning from the past here, the Nexus One got two updates before losing support so Jelly Bean should be the final update for the Nexus S.
Also, since ICS was a major interface revamp, I think Jelly Bean's gonna be focusing on other parts so really, Nexus S does not have any reason not to be able to support it. We'll see though
Have you seen this?
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/20/did-we-just-get-a-sneak-peak-at-jelly-bean-in-google-io-screenshot/#
Seems that the new version will be like froyo / GB transition, more improvement, better visuals. Maybe our devices will get the update.
Yea I'd be happy with a few extra features like magel but the main thing for me is probably just speed and making things look a little nicer ..
I hope they call it 4.1 if it's a smallish update though otherwise will have the same issues iOS six had in that really is like 5.5
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/2...in-play-store-outs-jelly-bean-as-android-4-1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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What makes you say that?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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This video has absolutely nothing to do with the Nexus S, so what makes you say we won't be getting it?! Galaxy Nexus has also been the first to get 4.0, so what?
caliban2 said:
I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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"all the way" is stretching it though. We got from 2.3.6 to 4.0.4. Much better than the Nexus One in that respect.
Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Agree with you here. Minor updates are usually pushed, major ones aren't necessarily. I think the only reason the Nexus S got ICS is that there would have been an outcry if we didn't. Seriously, a Google phone with absolutely no upgrade? That would have been ridiculous.
I had sworn off non-Google phones after a couple of Samsung experiences, but the One is just so well-designed, I can't resist it. It's really the first Android phone which can compete with the iPhone in hardware design.
Now my question is, what happens when Google rolls out Android 5.0? Would vanilla Android be available quickly for the unlocked 32Gb and the 64 Developer edition? Is there any reason why it may not happen, or it may be difficult to do? Would the non-standard button layout throw a wrench in the OS upgrade possibilities?
I dont think so
If you buy the developer edition you can install plane lemon pie on it as it has the bootloader unlocked or any kind of ROM you want. On the Unlucked one you will need to wait until HTC releases the update as it also comes with thei Sense 5.0 UI.:laugh:
HTC have been saying they will be working a lot harder to get the latest updates out to their phones. And you can see as well in the One series that they have delivered to an extent.
Plus as the HTC One is their flagship device for this year, they will be putting all of their attention on it
As I would agree to this, without source code and binaries for the device I.E> sensors, bt, wifi, processor from HTC the dev edition wont just = instant updates to latest and greatest. Its just nice to see them least offering it up.
They don't even have 4.2 on the One, so I am assuming it would take them a long time to get KLP on the One.
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sidthegreatest said:
They don't even have 4.2 on the One, so I am assuming it would take them a long time to get KLP on the One.
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There's a reason why they did not got for 4.2. Here's a quick snip from Anandtechs amazing review
HTC says it went with 4.1 for both stability and time to market reasons, which I think is reasonable considering some of the 4.2.x issues people have complained about, though 4.2.2 fixes most of it. At this point it would be awesome to have 4.2, but for a smartphone the only features I miss are the notification shade settings and perhaps photosphere.
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Rage1ofakind said:
There's a reason why they did not got for 4.2. Here's a quick snip from Anandtechs amazing review
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Not to mention Lock screen widgets.
But my point is not whether they CAN out 4.2 on their device, but the fact that they did not.
Samsung has 4.2 on the S4, while the SIII also has a leaked ROM. So, I would say that KLP would come to the One in Q4 of this year at the earliest.
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doakills said:
As I would agree to this, without source code and binaries for the device I.E> sensors, bt, wifi, processor from HTC the dev edition wont just = instant updates to latest and greatest. Its just nice to see them least offering it up.
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What is HTC's history in terms of offering source code and binaries for their hardware? (I haven't had an HTC since the WM days
I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked, but now I am wondering if I jumped the gun and I should sit tight and wait for whatever the Next Nexus phone is? The only problem is, Google does not know how to drive good hardware design, and I really doubt the next Nexus will be as well designed or built.
For what it's worth, I love 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus, although it is getting to be a bit laggy with some apps. Nevertheless, I feel it is a bit more bug-free overall than 4.1.
If it doesn't look like HTC will release enough code to allow the One to be made vanilla Android and freely updated to the latest OS, i may actually cancel.
When the devs get the bootloaders unlocked flashing things will be no problem. It may take a while but it'll happen eventually.
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Does anyone have any estimates as to when or if we will see any cm10 or paranoid round here?
Also, as ive come over from a samsung, not a 100% sure how sense development has been on sense roms as they failed to port it to anything else, have they managed to mix it with aosp or anything else?
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When the devs get the bootloaders unlocked flashing things will be no problem. It may take a while but it'll happen eventually.
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I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
snowblind2142 said:
Does anyone have any estimates as to when or if we will see any cm10 or paranoid round here?
Also, as ive come over from a samsung, not a 100% sure how sense development has been on sense roms as they failed to port it to anything else, have they managed to mix it with aosp or anything else?
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Atm im running aokp on my htc one-x
I can run pa or cm too if i wanted to and this device only has the htcdev unlock available.
Also sense from other devices can be ported but its a pita so dont expect to much on that side.
However there are also roms who strip htc sense entirly making it a treu aosp experience and diff ui's can be flashed( xperia and samsung ui have been ported to hox)
Obviously this doesnt mean its gonna happen at the one but i sure hope so
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I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
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But bootloader unlock (which AFAIK is available for the 32gb unlocked version as well) does not mean that the rest of the hardware will be opened up to developers, right?
Ugh, I was hoping for a much more optimistic scenario.... I love the efforts the developers here pour into maintaing these sets when the hardware is not exposed and the manufacturer drags its feet on updates, but after having to deal with the constant ROM tinkering and numerous resulting issues with my old Samsing sets, I am not excited about the prospect of going through it again.
Also, I am wondering if the non-standard soft buttons will affect easy porting of 5.0 to the One?
Having aosp etc on the one would be a bit pointless. I like it. The ones standout features are design sound and camera.
Youd have two out of three running aosp etc. Every other HTC device running has a scrappy camera since they went to 8mp. It remains to be seen what the ones camera would be. If it's deal though you lose a lot. Okay 4.2 etc is sweet on the nexus range but there hardware was built around it
Fairplay is try it on the one..debateable whether it'd be worth it though
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MacGuy2006 said:
What is HTC's history in terms of offering source code and binaries for their hardware? (I haven't had an HTC since the WM days
I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked, but now I am wondering if I jumped the gun and I should sit tight and wait for whatever the Next Nexus phone is? The only problem is, Google does not know how to drive good hardware design, and I really doubt the next Nexus will be as well designed or built.
For what it's worth, I love 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus, although it is getting to be a bit laggy with some apps. Nevertheless, I feel it is a bit more bug-free overall than 4.1.
If it doesn't look like HTC will release enough code to allow the One to be made vanilla Android and freely updated to the latest OS, i may actually cancel.
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HTC sucks at updating the new source code. They wait months after Google has already released it.
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Enraged21 said:
HTC sucks at updating the new source code. They wait months after Google has already released it.
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They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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romitkin said:
I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
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I meant s-off. Sorry..
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ste1164 said:
They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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I would hope so. But the fact that they are releasing their flagship with months old OS version is a little worrying.
I am not so broken up about 4.2, but 5 sounds like it will be a rather major update and if this thing doesn't get updated promptly, it will be a very disappointing acquisition for me.
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Having aosp etc on the one would be a bit pointless. I like it. The ones standout features are design sound and camera.
Youd have two out of three running aosp etc. Every other HTC device running has a scrappy camera since they went to 8mp. It remains to be seen what the ones camera would be. If it's deal though you lose a lot. Okay 4.2 etc is sweet on the nexus range but there hardware was built around it
Fairplay is try it on the one..debateable whether it'd be worth it though
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Exactly. I can't believe there's already complaints about the time it will take HTC to update the phone to KLP. One of the main reasons people are flocking to this phone is the awesome job HTC did on the software features. If they slapped it together you could have the latest, but not the same experience. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
ste1164 said:
They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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How do you know this? I would love for this to be true but, given my experience with the One X, I find it hard to believe.