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Found this over in the Evo forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908338
and it has a link to this article
http://pocketnow.com/android/rumor-android-24-ice-cream-arriving-in-early-summer
maybe whatever sprint is planning on releasing this june will have ice cream..what do you guys think
We don't even have froyo never mind gingerbread. Honeycomb is next and that's 3.0 and they haven't even started working on that and your worried about ice cream being 2.4. Ice cream would be 3.x since google goes in alphabetical order
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mysteryemotionz said:
We don't even have froyo never mind gingerbread. Honeycomb is next and that's 3.0 and they haven't even started working on that and your worried about ice cream being 2.4. Ice cream would be 3.x since google goes in alphabetical order
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Not ice cream for the Epic...for w/e they release,and i just went with 2.4 like the article said
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Not ice cream for the Epic...for w/e they release,and i just went with 2.4 like the article said
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Fair enuff but gingerbread was just finished. I'm sure there taking a short break and then working on honeycomb. I wouldn't expect 2.4 our ice cream in the summer if this rumor is true
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mysteryemotionz said:
We don't even have froyo never mind gingerbread. Honeycomb is next and that's 3.0 and they haven't even started working on that and your worried about ice cream being 2.4. Ice cream would be 3.x since google goes in alphabetical order
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Honeycomb is all but done my friend. It's been seen running on tablets already and rumor has it we may even see a Honeycomb tablet next month.
Here's Google's leaked demo of Honeycomb. I'm pretty sure that's not all CG'ed.
EDIT- I can't help but notice that FroYo was released last Summer, Gingerbread released during the holidays, Honeycomb will be showing up in late winter / early spring, and Ice Cream again in the summer. Interesting!
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Fair enuff but gingerbread was just finished. I'm sure there taking a short break and then working on honeycomb. I wouldn't expect 2.4 our ice cream in the summer if this rumor is true
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My guess is that they renamed gingerbread to "ice cream" for the phones instead of calling it gingerbread also
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The Xperia Arc is running 2.4
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Nope that was just a developing error. It's supposed to be 2.3.
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I am pretty sure Honeycomb is tablet only. Thats what I took from that video anyway.
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Honeycomb is all but done my friend. It's been seen running on tablets already and rumor has it we may even see a Honeycomb tablet next month.
Here's Google's leaked demo of Honeycomb. I'm pretty sure that's not all CG'ed.
EDIT- I can't help but notice that FroYo was released last Summer, Gingerbread released during the holidays, Honeycomb will be showing up in late winter / early spring, and Ice Cream again in the summer. Interesting!
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I didn't realize honeycomb was done already. From what I see is honeycomb will be tablet only. My question is if the tablets get 3.0 and smart phones get 2.3 what's going to happen after 2.9?
I never realized there update schedual to you pointed it out.
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The OS version dubbed honeycomb may be tablet only, nothing about that means that phones won't see past 3.0
Unified versions. Phone OS and tablet OS will eventually merge into a single OS.
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I didn't realize honeycomb was done already. From what I see is honeycomb will be tablet only. My question is if the tablets get 3.0 and smart phones get 2.3 what's going to happen after 2.9?
I never realized there update schedual to you pointed it out.
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Yeah, all signs point to Honeycomb being tablet-only. It looks like they will go to 2.4 for Ice Cream and at some point they will merge the two as muyoso mentioned.
I'll bet Google put a different team on Honeycomb then they did on Gingerbread; I'm sure they collaborated but since Honeycomb is going to split off as the Tablet branch of the Android tree, they've probably got a separate team working on all the Tablet features like sorting out app / resolution conflicts and tablet UI enhancements. Anyhow this would explain the relatively short time between launches.
From my understanding Google wants the Chrome OS on tablet and netbook. I think honeycomb is something to hold tablet people over til Chrome is ready. And Android has already jumped a lot of numbers they can easily jump 3.x and go to 4 for phones.
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At ces google did an interview and honeycomb will be on cell phones not just tablets....
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EhudBenjamin said:
From my understanding Google wants the Chrome OS on tablet and netbook. I think honeycomb is something to hold tablet people over til Chrome is ready. And Android has already jumped a lot of numbers they can easily jump 3.x and go to 4 for phones.
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Chrome OS is going to get dropped or at very least put on the shelf for a while. Android is too popular for Google to abandon it at this point. Its on everything. Also, at this point chrome os is no where near ready to publicly launch for consumers. Consumers would hate the OS for the most part. It offers zero advantages over android. Also, it looks like Honeycomb is running some modified version of chrome, so I am sure chrome OS apps will work on honeycomb. Maybe it wont be natively, but if there is a reason to do it, XDA will provide.
EhudBenjamin said:
From my understanding Google wants the Chrome OS on tablet and netbook. I think honeycomb is something to hold tablet people over til Chrome is ready. And Android has already jumped a lot of numbers they can easily jump 3.x and go to 4 for phones.
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Isn't Chrome OS x86-only?
I'm waiting till they get to "S" then it will be android 10.0 called "SKYNET". yes.. get me some guns!
I'm starting to feel like every new release just reveals how half baked this platform really is.
xperia arc
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=newsimg/11/01/android-24/gsmarena_001.jpg
xperia arc running android 2.4
is a very good question.. any "official" word?
No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb
cordell507 said:
not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb
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I'll bet a nickel that "unofficially" there will be roms for our device for a couple years forward. Ice cream sandwich and beyond.
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No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems
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The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems
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It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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there is one reason why ACER might not port ICS to the A500, the A500 is not a phone, the A501 is possibly more into getting updated to ICS.
From what I understand (read somewhere), is that according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
My bet is that we'll get it sometime early next year.
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It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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But you're just speculating.
Google has already stated that ICS will be AOSP'ed, so worst case scenario we'll at least be able to get native 3rd party ROMs for our A500's as long as the developer community remains strong.
Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
You had to be part of the Open Handset Alliance to get the source code for Honeycomb. Google wanted more control on this particular release to keep vendors from trying to use it on a regular phone.
From the "leaked" photos I'm not really impressed with the ice cream sandwich update. It might be nice on phones but I love honeycomb on tablets. Yes there could be some improvement but overall honeycomb is great.
ACER could get alot of good geek buzz, if they update to ICS and open the bootloader up.
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with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate
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Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Ruh roh am I the troll?
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cordell507 said:
with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate
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I think you will be disappointed. ICS is supposed to re-unite the phone and tabs os into one.
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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
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Open Handset Alliance == Android Alliance?
Not sure of that, but I may be well wrong...
Euclid's Brother said:
according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
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Ah, but an update to an OS and a NEW OS version are two entirely different things. Updates are point releases and bug fixes. You confuse the two, methinks. I deal with a lot of business contracts and I think I can speak with a bit of confidence that there's no way Google would force vendors to do major updates. Besides, if they did that you would now have Honeycomb on some phones... Obviously they can't because you can't even guarantee the same hardware will run the next major release.
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If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
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Again I disagree - sure there might be some irritated people on these forums, but the average consumer is now buying this tablet from Wal Mart of all places. That means they ain't all geeks anymore and probably won't even know when ICS is released.
The real trick is to buy like the manufacturers intended. Buy a tablet that does what you want RIGHT NOW. If you can't do that, don't buy because there's absolutely no guarantee that it will do what you want later.
It's like buying a Ford hoping for a free update to Jaguar before your warranty expires. Okay so it's nothing like that. But it is.
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But isn't that the point?
All current gen Xperia models are going to be updated to Ice cream sandwich (Android 4.0) after October's 2.3.4 update!!!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/All-...ted-to-Android-4.0-Ice-Cream-Sandwich_id21947
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Just saw this and got so excited
Not only 2.3.4 in a month but 4.0 in the New Year.
SE is stepping up it's game
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Just saw this and got so excited
Not only 2.3.4 in a month but 4.0 in the New Year.
SE is stepping up it's game
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They have always been underrated(especially to Nokia in the Balkans)...and I don't understand how they are losing money on the play....
They are losing money because of their battered reputation for abandoning customers with their previous handsets. It seems like management has turned a new leaf. 2012 will probably be the now or never come back year for sony ericsson. They own like 1.7%of the market shares as of July =/ the earthquake played a big role at affecting those figures though.
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That's awesome news!
Hopefully Verizon doesn't slow down that update for us r800x users...but I'm not holding my breath. (Of course, barring any complications with r800x development it won't matter to those of us lucky enough to have locked in root.)
On that note, gosh I hope SE doesn't go under. They are currently the only company offering anything resembling a vanilla android experience on Verizon.
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Deoxlar said:
They are losing money because of their battered reputation for abandoning customers with their previous handsets.
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like the SE Arc S
Looking forward to this, to be honest I've never really liked Honeycomb (Ice cream sandwich is a mobile version of honeycomb according to a friend), I just hope Sony keep their timescape UI in, I really like it.
p.s Cool name "ice cream sandwich"
The names are all original
froyo,gingerbread,honeycomb,Ice cream sandwitch
It was a false alarm, Sony said they didn't make any decisions regarding this
phandroid.com/2011/09/08/ice-cream-sandwich-coming-to-all-2011-sony-ericsson-handsets/
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just like gingerbread on the x10, the COULD change their mind. so lets not give up hope too soon. i'm going to keep reserved on the news. neither getting too excited, but not dismissing it either. fingers crossed guys n gals
Read the article carefully... A London based small potatoes representative confirmed the 4.0 upgrade...... Not the ceo or any department head on charge of upgrades and firmware... Take the news with a grain of salt.... We don't even know 4.0 is a good for single core phones... I find gingerbread to run real smooth already.
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Now I'm confused..
Anyhow, If the new ICS will run great on our phone then that would be awesome..
I'm excited to know the full latest features, I'm excited to taste that new flavor..
I hope you all know that officially, sony have made no decision on if it will bring ICS to the 2011 range of experia devices.
Infact there current official stance is "When it comes to future platforms of the Android OS, we will make them available to consumers in a timely manner as long as they improve the user experience and are viable from a hardware point of view."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...o-bring-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-devices/
Deoxlar said:
We don't even know 4.0 is a good for single core phones... I find gingerbread to run real smooth already.
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Google is touting ICS as their one OS fits all design. It's extremely doubtful that it will be dual core only, considering that and A) Dual core handsets are still in their infancy B) The dual cores out there aren't really faster than the single cores. I can see ICS bringing improved support for dual core, but it's a retarded business decision for Google to cut out single core phones. Even the latest version of windows doesn't do that.
Also, who cares what Sony says, the developers on here will ensure that if we really want ICS on our phones we will be able to.
Cat_On_Droid said:
The names are all original
froyo,gingerbread,honeycomb,Ice cream sandwitch
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Oh looks like it's alphabetical too hah..
brochador said:
Oh looks like it's alphabetical too hah..
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It is alphabetical didn't you know? it started with Cupcake, doughnut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb, ice cream sandwitch
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It is alphabetical didn't you know? it started with Cupcake, doughnut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb, ice cream sandwitch
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What about A and B?
speedyink said:
Google is touting ICS as their one OS fits all design. It's extremely doubtful that it will be dual core only, considering that and A) Dual core handsets are still in their infancy B) The dual cores out there aren't really faster than the single cores. I can see ICS bringing improved support for dual core, but it's a retarded business decision for Google to cut out single core phones. Even the latest version of windows doesn't do that.
Also, who cares what Sony says, the developers on here will ensure that if we really want ICS on our phones we will be able to.
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It won't just be for dual core as they have to deliver it to the NS and that's single core. I had the X10 and waited ages for the 2.1 update only to be dissatisfied because of how slow and laggy it was, still custom ROM's made up for SE's crap.
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Its based on honeycomb correct? Can anyone name 1 tablet that has a single core and runs honeycomb natively?
Nook Color, if I recall properly. It uses the very same Honeycomb as "native" tablets.
Plus, I want to remind you that dual cores are still top of the line. The midrange and low range of new devices (think of Optimus Sol or Galaxy Ace) will have to be updated too...
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
I'd like to see iPhone OS (iPOS) stop ripping off android's features.
That was my troll of the day.
Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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intruda119 said:
Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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I know theres not point in speculating about Ice Cream Sandwich since were unsure of what it will bring to the table.
My question was WHAT would YOU like it to improve on or what features you'd like it to bring, you know, CHANGES....
I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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****, that's a LONG way away, I hope for the love of god it's WORTH the wait.
For the amount of time it's taken it should come out perfect or near perfect at the very least...
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I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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It was from Samsung Italy if I remember right. But I would say mid-end January maximum.
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imo note is designed for ics. samsung was aiming to release it with ics in early 2012 but too much interest from the market made them release earlier. but google (and maybe samsung) wants nexus chrome to be the first ics phone on the market so they cant release it with ics. so i think gingerbread roms for note are just for waste time until the google and samsung decides nexus did fine. and as i believe samsung aimed ics for the note i think they are not spending much time on gingerbread roms for note. so when ics is realeased i am expecting everything to be improved.
Whilst ICS will undoubtedly bring all sorts of improvements to the Note, until such time that a decent ecosystem of Honeycomb/ICS apps is built up (and remember, there aren't a great deal of Honeycomb specific tablet apps either), the vast majority of apps are still targeting 2.x iterations (Gingerbread, Froyo etc) of Android, which means that 2.x apps are likely to be de rigueur for some time yet.
I'm as keen as the next guy to get ICS onto my Android devices (Note, GTab, Transformer etc), but without application support it really doesn't matter too much.
Enjoy the Note for what it is today, not what it may be tomorrow!
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I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
seltaeb said:
I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
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As far as I know (at least that's what I saw on Desire Android Development for ICS ROMs) that 'always visible' bar can be "disabled", at least the keys on it. Some more experienced user may correct me tho
The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
ICS for Galaxy Note
I heard ICS for Note will come on 2nd quarter. Still waiting for the release.
Also Galaxy SIII is coming with ICS4. is there any major firmware difference in Note and SIII? Why we cant use the same for Note and release the official release?
And I thought that we already have a sticky for these kind of discussions!!
ICS will be released soon and it will give few new functionality to the note..
some are as following:-
1 it will upgrade the proc by 9 cores (Intel Hardcore neon x9)
2 it will search for appropriate forums for you and automatically post in the right forums
SUCH AS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490986
Please post all ICS speculation info in the above mentioned thread !!
Meanwhile
Calling the dark forces : ORIGINAL_GANJAMAN where art thou???????
Was the ICS update for the S2 a wipe upgrade?
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kanej2006 said:
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
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Samsung never announces release dates in advance. We didn't get a real advance release date for S2, we won't have it for this device.
We don't know what to expect... Right now all leaks have Superbrick kernels, I suspect that's one of the things slowing down ICS for every device but the S2. Samsung tried to add some performance tweaks and FAILED MISERABLY and they're trying to figure out what the **** they broke now.
LordManhattan said:
The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
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Nope - they're an utter waste of screen space on devices with hardware keys.
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I just found information that the unveiling of the new Jelly Bean 5.0 will be in Q2, so when we get 4.0 it is going to be already old and I doubt that we will get the update to 5.0
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I just found information that the unveiling of the new Jelly Bean 5.0 will be in Q2, so when we get 4.0 it is going to be already old and I doubt that we will get the update to 5.0
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Given that hardly any applications are available specifically for ICS yet, yet alone an unavailable future version, I personally don't see this as an issue.
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I probably won't. I actually like the mobile OS on my mobile phone, regardless of the screen resolution and size.
breckbit said:
Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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Why would google release a tablet OS after merging both lines rather successfully? And I do use my Note with ICS tablet mode as daily driver.
Also, we'll probably see Jelly Bean phones come out after a while, ICS was previewed in May 2011 but was released in November.
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Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I was looking forward to use it that way ever since I bought the note. Then I finally had the chance to try imilka's aosp ics in tablet mode. It was like a dream come true at first but then I noticed letters look so small making it unpractical as a daily driver. My new dream is to be able to use the phone as it is in high resolution w/ big letters but apps to be opened in tablet resolution by choice.
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as mnetioned Jb will be tablet only and i also seen quite early release but Q3 .. not earlier
Truth be told, we don't know that yet. Let google first announce it then we can speculate if it'll come or not.
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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ICS was made to bridge the gap between tablet and phone...there is no way they will split the two again.
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as mnetioned Jb will be tablet only and i also seen quite early release but Q3 .. not earlier
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But where is the logic? Google makes Honeycomb, and it fails big time (let's be honest guys, it did) so they make ICS which will unify Android again and it will run on both phones and tablets. A part of the fragmentation is gone.
But not for long..
Jelly Bean! Lets do the same mistake again.
I'm sorry, but no. They can't be that dumb. Android releases a new version of the OS every year. I guess we'll get a preview of JB at Google I/O, and it'll get released sooner this year, like last year. By releasing a tablet-only OS, the phone OS will be lagging behind.
It's bull****.
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Jelly Bean! Lets do the same mistake again.
I'm sorry, but no. They can't be that dumb. Android releases a new version of the OS every year. I guess we'll get a preview of JB at Google I/O, and it'll get released sooner this year, like last year. By releasing a tablet-only OS, the phone OS will be lagging behind.
It's bull****.
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Sounds perfectly logical to me.
As ics is an update to the phone software, namely GB, and honeycomb hasnt had an updated version as yet it seems likely that Jellybean would be tablet focused, although it is possible to install it, its not going to have the comms requirements to be able to use the note as anything else but a tablet.
I hope android 5.0 is for phones, but i seriously doubt that google would release 2 major versions of their os within such a short period of time when ics is going to be concentrated on for a long time to come, so back to the start of the post, i think hes right, 5.0 will likely be for tablets, which is great news, honeycomb is really nice on the tablet, but to get an update would be awesome.
graemeg said:
As ics is an update to the phone software, namely GB, and honeycomb hasnt had an updated version as yet it seems likely that Jellybean would be tablet focused
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First of all, yes, ICS is just as much an update to HC. There is nothing phone-specific about it and as should be fairly obvious, there's plenty of tablet available with ICS nowadays. Secondly, no, Google went to great lengths to unify both the tablet version of Android and the phone version of it, they won't start breaking the unification again.
I hope android 5.0 is for phones, but i seriously doubt that google would release 2 major versions of their os within such a short period of time when ics is going to be concentrated on for a long time to come
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As said, Google shot itself in the foot by separating phone and tablet versions of Android. ICS was the first step in unifying them. The plan has always been to do a new major version once a year and obviously ICS was last-year.
, so back to the start of the post, i think hes right, 5.0 will likely be for tablets, which is great news, honeycomb is really nice on the tablet, but to get an update would be awesome.
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Install ICS on your tablet then. There is absolutely nothing stopping you.
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breckbit said:
Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os".
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No, they don't. That's unsubstantiated fanboy-rumour. There is no way of dual-booting Windows 8 and another OS unless Microsoft specifically allows it for several reasons: Windows 8 requires the system to have SecureBoot enabled and not disableable and that Microsoft will not sell the ARM-version of Windows 8 to anyone else than official Microsoft-partners.
Go ahead and google a bit, read about SecureBoot and you'll see already why that is just a rumour.
JellyBean will possibly have dual-boot, yes, but it won't support Win8; it'll be for booting between Android and ChromeOS, and possibly Linux.
Honeycomb was a band-aid release to give manufacturers an OS that ran semi-decently on tablets as the existing 2.x releases wouldn't scale properly and were completely unsuitable (didn't stop some manufacturers using it though, e.g. the original Galaxy Tab).
There's some info as well as the usual assortment of blind speculation in this article: http://www.techradar.com/news/softw...-things-we-want-to-see-in-android-5-0-1036013
Also info from a press conference regarding how ICS will unify the tablet & phone UI's: http://blogs.nvidia.com/2012/01/nvi...ice-cream-sandwich-to-unify-android-platform/
Unless Google would like to commit OS-suicide, there is no waythey would release a separate version for "larger" devices at this stage. The "fragmentation" issue is bad enough as it is without them back pedalling, there will only be one combined Android OS for all devices from ICS onwards.
Regardless though, odds of the Note getting Jellybean via an official release is basically nil. I for one won't care, by the time it'd be likely to actually be available I'll probably have a newer device anyway.
Yeah as linked above, google publicly stated they are merging tablet and phone OS into a single code base and ICS would be it. Sure enough we got ICS just like they said. Not in a million years are they gonna fork suddenly. They flat out said so.
RogerPodacter said:
Yeah as linked above, google publicly stated they are merging tablet and phone OS into a single code base and ICS would be it. Sure enough we got ICS just like they said. Not in a million years are they gonna fork suddenly. They flat out said so.
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Certainly hope so my friend, it is good news indeed if they are concentrating on one solid sytem for all devices, that would be awesome, although, i wont Knock Honeycomb and ive never updated from it because like so many others i need stability and have feared venturing into the unknown abyss so far, honeycomb is great software and works well enough so im not too worried, once ics official is released then i will have a look at it.
But yer thanks for all the feedback guys, thats great to hear that Jellybean is going to be multisystem and with the info youve provided then yes id have to agree with you all that it probably is going to be multiplatform, which is what id initially hoped it would be, great stuff.
Any speculation on month of release, of course its difficult to guess bearing in mind ICS seems to have been around for quite a while now, but its really all down to when samsung are going to release it, i know they said Q1 for ics but it hasnt happened thus far, so i cant imagine JB would be at the start of Q2, my suspicion is most definitley for closer to the end of 2012 or start of 2013.
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but its really all down to when samsung are going to release it, i know they said Q1 for ics but it hasnt happened thus far, so i cant imagine JB would be at the start of Q2, my suspicion is most definitley for closer to the end of 2012 or start of 2013.
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The release of Jelly Bean is in no way or form connected to when phone manufacturers ship ICS. ICS was already shown back in May in 2011, so that's almost a year ago now. Also, Jelly Bean is not as much of changing the fundamentals of Android as an OS as ICS was, it's more about honing the little things, smoothing the corners and putting the dressing on top like e.g. voice control.
That said, I assume JB will be released during Q3, not Q2. It'll likely be previewed during Q2, though, and that's when Google will announce the up-and-coming features and fixes.
When will Chocolate marshmellow be released!? I wonder if we'll get that update...
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When will Chocolate marshmellow be released!? I wonder if we'll get that update...
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Android never released versions A and B, those names are lost... As far as the public is concerned, it started with :
Cupcake
Donut
Eclair
Froyo
Gingerbread
Honeycomb
Ice Cream Sandwhich
Jelly Bean
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You missed your chance with C... marshmallow still holds a chance!
ICS was previewed in May 2011 and launched in October 2011. Over 5 months later ICS can only be found in 2-3% of current Android devices.
I have to wonder how putting on even more pressure on developers and raising the frustration of the users by launching version 5.0 while the huge majority is still waiting for the v4 update could help your market share.
This is a good read regarding this issue : http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Jelly-Bean-Android-Gingerbread-Ice-Cream-Sandwich,news-14545.html