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Honeycomb 3.2 update for the SGT?

The Xoom (USA Wifi version) users are having their official 3.2 updates OTA now!
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/07/1...arts-to-arrive-for-some-wi-fi-motorola-xooms/
Where is ours?
I dont even have the 3.1 update for my 10.1v.

Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.

nMIK-3 said:
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.

Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out

Wait for Touchwiz before Android 3.2

mchimney said:
You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
Itaintrite said:
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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That's pretty much the case.

Now that TW is coming. No way we'll see 3.2 anytime soon. Not a chance with Samsungs history.

nMIK-3 said:
Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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I would disagree somewhat. The Galaxy S has been upgraded to Gingerbread on European versions of the phone. While updates for phones in the past have been lagging I would view that Samsung has taken a new approach as of late. The majority of the phones released around the same time period as the Galaxy S line have not received the Gingerbread update either. I would respond to you and ask for another cell phone manufacturer who is doing it better? Also besides zoom to fit (which spare parts will fix) there's not much benefit of 3.2 for us. The update adds zoom to fit, finally enables SD cards on the Xoom, and is more optimized to fit on 7" tablets i.e. 7-inch Huawei MediaPad.
As for Touchwiz I felt V3 was in need of much work (it does appear to be revamped a tad and smoother on the latest Fascinate GB leak) however V4 on the SGII has me sold on it being the default launcher on my phone. It is butter smooth and I love how it is laid out. If you were to poll the majority of Android users on XDA I would wager over 75% are unhappy with their stock manufacturer's launcher. I am looking forward to what Samsung will bring to the table.
I myself believe that Honeycomb is still very "beta-ish" in its current state. It was rushed and is extremely buggy. I think releasing the source code would help immensely as devs could iron out bugs (which they nicely do for Google now on the phone side). However, I do not believe it will be released before a transition into Ice Cream Sandwich.

Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???

POLO_i780 said:
Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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There's a HC 3.1 ROM by seo available in the 10.1v section - incl. TouchWiz.

Dont know
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Itaintrite said:
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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This sounds about right. Especially the "maybe."

seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.

eugene22n said:
seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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It's not just about smaller screen tablets. It brings some small bug fixes also:
There is no lag on up side down home screen. Portrait is also better but not much.
Browser seems a little faster and typing a message on XDA doesn't lag as bad as it did on 3.1
I was also planning to buy SGT, but now I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to wait for updates. In this regard, the US Xoom is the best tablet. Only downside is that the US 3G version doesn't work in Europe and i want a tablet with 3G connectivity.

I got the update(wifi Only). Any one have a clue how to access it? Or make Sgt use it? The SD card i mean..lol

There isn't a 3.2 update for Galaxy Tab, and there is no SD card either. Troll somewhere else

I've been a forum reader/poster for over 20 years. Seen many things and read many posts. I know trolls and I know funny.
It's safe to say that the threads that I've read on the XDA forums have the most people with lack of sense of humor than any I've been a part of.
Why is that?

I didn't think it was funny... It was a clear troll post.

Could the 10.1 run 3.2 from the Zoom, or does it have to be made specifically for the Samsung 10.1?
Because supposedly reverse landscape and portrait mode performance are improved, near regular landscape performance.

Thanks for making my point.

Its high time we put social pressure on samsung with regards updates

Hi guys, let me just get down to the meat of the issue. I think its time we all come together and apply some form of social pressure on samsung concerning their update road map for the (second gen) galaxy tab series (10.1,8.9 and 7 plus) I paid about $575 for the 16gb 3G version of the galaxy tab 8.9 and almost returned it immediately because of the horrendous lag of the device (in landscape mode) when swyping across home screens and application grid. Thankfully I followed the advise of many here and installed a custom rom (in my case overcome) which made the device much more usable. What is most annoying is not just how samsung allowed such a laggy device to be released but also keeping mute about any update plans whatsoever. I am not even talking about ice cream sandwich, honeycomb 3.2 has been out for a couple of months now and all the major android honeycomb tablets (The Xoom and transformer) has received updates on their devices. even though mainly a bug fix release. Honeycomb 3.2 would go a long way to fix many of the annoyance currently experienced by galaxy tab owners.
I am not saying samsung should update my device tomorrow, but at least don't keep me in the dark. We all paid top dollars for their device hence the least they could do is to keep us informed on pending updates and also be damn fast about it. There is no doubt as to the legendariness of samsung's hardware awesomeness. Till date they have the best phone hardware in the market (galaxy s2 is the gold standard by which other mobile phones are measured) and their 2nd generation galaxy tab are the best tablets hardware ever. But samsung scores a zero when it comes to communicating with their users. It doesn't hurt to let your users know what is coming .. it removes the need for rumours and makes them even more loyal. And we are loyal bunch of users. Even though the world would have us believe that tablets start and ends with ipad. we stuck with samsung and all we ask is that they at least treat us with respect. Acknowledge by taking to us.
I can not describe the wave of jealousy I get everytime I hear acer talk about how their updates plans for ice cream sandwich and how the OG transformer would be receiving updates this year end, how the transformer is getting the second batch of ice cream sandwich updates.. all the while I am refreshing XDA forum waiting for a good Samaritan from the community to release the fix that I expected from samsung. I think this is unacceptable.
I don't think we sit milkly by and accept this kinda treatment from samsung. I think its time we take them to task using social media. I don't own a facebook account but I don't mind creating one. Its time we make our self heard and get samsung to listen to us.. Goal is simple. samsung needs to become more engaged with its fans and users. I mean what harm could come out of letting users know about update plans? what ill could come out of prompt updates to recent android release. I am a proud owner and the galaxy s2 and with that device I am not so much concerned with updates. But that is because the galaxy s2 is a master piece and runs fine as it is. I can not say the same about my galaxy tab 8.9.. The performance of that device could be better. software not hardware is behind the laggy performance which is why it pisses me to no small extent knowing they is a software update out there which fixes my issue. Other OEMs are releasing it to their devices (or engaging their users on future release) while samsung just keeps mute.
My goal is to get samsung to engage us their users more on update plans. or roadmap.
And To get them to be more speedy when it comes to releasing updates.
How do we go about this. looking at the success of how sustained facebook campaigns has worked for HTC, LG and motorolla users in the past, how it has gotten these companies to reverse policies which were unfriendly to their users. I think its time samsung galaxy tab users get on facebook and mount a sustained but peaceful and civil plea to samsung. Let us make our voices heard.
Its time we direct our inquiries directly to samsung. Hopefully we can raise enough dust that someone high up would push the button that makes the necessary changes.
Either way it's in samsung interest to be known as an OEM which listens to their users.
Its in their interest to be known as an OEM who always release updates for their device.
Does anyone share my thoughts on this?

About updates, it seems to me that Samsung produces a lot of updates every month, they just don't push them out. We get at least two leaked firmware a month. I'm ok with that because I don't like Kies anyway and Odin is easy to use. Android 3.2 seems to be out in Korea, so it can't be far for us, I expect the next leak to have it (KJ1?).
About the gt8.9 lag in landscape mode, unfortunately I think that's hardware problem. All tabs with tegra soc have this lag in portrait. For some unknown reason the gt8.9 screen is rotated 90 degrees (look in build.prop file) and that's why it has this problem in landscape. So I don't believe android 3.2 will fix this. Maybe ICS will, if it does do something very differently in launcher.

poisike said:
About updates, it seems to me that Samsung produces a lot of updates every month, they just don't push them out. We get at least two leaked firmware a month. Android 3.2 seems to be out in Korea, so it can't be far for us, I expect the next leak to have it (KJ1?)..
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which brings me to the point of user engagement. Samsung could do better in that area. Its just hikes me when acer, motorola and HTC release update road map for their devices and we get nothing from samsung. They could do better in that regards
About the gt8.9 lag in landscape mode, unfortunately I think that's hardware problem. All tabs with tegra soc have this lag in portrait. For some unknown reason the gt8.9 screen is rotated 90 degrees (look in build.prop file) and that's why it has this problem in landscape. So I don't believe android 3.2 will fix this. Maybe ICS will, if it does do something very differently in launcher
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Your signature listed the xoom with hc 3.2.1 does that mean you still have same lag even with honeycomb 3.2?
we are not even sure about ICS samsung has not said anything officially about which device would get updated and when. (and no random comment from a samsung italian site/facebook page does not count as official)

bigbrovar said:
Your signature listed the xoom with hc 3.2.1 does that mean you still have same lag even with honeycomb 3.2?
we are not even sure about ICS samsung has not said anything officially about which device would get updated and when. (and no random comment from a samsung italian site/facebook page does not count as official)
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Yes, Xoom with Android 3.2.1 still isn't smooth when changing homescreens in portrait. Like i already said, it's a known problem with all Tergra 2 Honeycomb tablets. Only new thing about GT8.9 is that in that case it's in landscape and not portrait. If you don't believe me, hold your tab in portrait and you will see how smooth the scrolling through homescreens is. I can't believe Samsung didn't know about this problem, it seems they just thought that we can live with it. I can and have lived with my Xoom and GT10.1 that have this problem in portrait mode and i have never complained about this issue because i rarely use the tablet in portrait. But having this problem in landscape... i'm starting to hate my GT8.9 which i bought just a few days ago. I'm now using GT8.9 with only one homescreen set up because i don't want to see this jerky scrolling.

All I care about is that we get an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM in a timely manner. Since Samsung is the launch partner with Google on ICS, they'd better do more than just try to sell the Galaxy Nexus.
I have to say that I'm not impressed with the lack of updates either -- a device of this caliber deserves to not be released and then ignored over time. Just like a desktop or laptop computer, I expect to apply updates on a regular basis to fix reliability and security bugs, at the OS level.

As if this ever worked. Are we in kindergarten or what?

So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1

Now just give us a system dump so the rest of us can flash it

Lanky14 said:
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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post a pic.

Lanky14 said:
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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Picture, or it didn't happen. Also seems that some guys in Israel, I think, have also got it. JK1 that was called. I think Task650 is helping that guy to dump the system. Maybe I should mention that that was for 7510.

Lanky14 said:
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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Turn it to portrait, is scrolling through homescreens still smooth? I don't think so.

It would definately be great to get updates more often.
But on the other hand I do not recall Samsung having ever published, promised etc. that they will provide updates on a regular basis. It's just a nice thing that happens and I think.
Howcome do people feel they have a right to regular free updates?

nickwarn said:
Picture, or it didn't happen. Also seems that some guys in Israel, I think, have also got it. JK1 that was called. I think Task650 is helping that guy to dump the system. Maybe I should mention that that was for 7510.
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see attached

poisike said:
Turn it to portrait, is scrolling through homescreens still smooth? I don't think so.
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a bit more choppy, but not bad at all!
I don't think it will ever be iPad smooth... but way more bearable then when it was 3.1

Lanky14 said:
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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If you have the time, I am sure some devs would love a system dump of 3.2 Here is a guide using adb: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-654561.html
Thanks!

Tubes6al4v said:
If you have the time, I am sure some devs would love a system dump of 3.2 Here is a guide using adb: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-654561.html
Thanks!
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I have no problem doing that except I am about to head out on a 3 week vacation. If no one else has done it by beginning of Dec (I get back the 3rd), I will gladly do it

You can't be serious. Vacation can wait, dump that image

Isilmalith said:
You can't be serious. Vacation can wait, dump that image
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hahahha exactly! hook us up! lol (take your laptop with you)

I have the 7.0 Plus and its sort of smooth while swiping in either mode. It only stutters maybe 1 out of 10 swipes.
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qhinton said:
I have the 7.0 Plus and its sort of smooth while swiping in either mode. It only stutters maybe 1 out of 10 swipes.
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7.0+ doesn't have Tegra 2 SoC so this doesn't mean much, except it proves that its a hardware problem on Tegra tablets.

Google Dog Testing now on!!!!

Icys is closer than we thought google has now began official testing or dog testing meaning that all the google employees have recieved the update!!!!!!!!!
For anymore info on this or to get the exact words from google visit pocket lint or the other ten websites just thought id share
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Well they just have it up on the Nexus S officialy but you can bet Asus is hard at work getting it ready for us

Dark lord me said:
Well they just have it up on the Nexus S officialy but you can bet Asus is hard at work getting it ready for us
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I hope so i want my TF101 christmas present !!!!!!!!!!
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So, you piqued my interest, and I went and started searching for ICS features and stuff. Anyway, what are the main differences we'll be seeing on our transformers? It sounds like this update is more important for phones because a lot of features sound Honeycomb-esque (except for the swipe on the multi-task roulette to kill apps, that sounds awesome).

asdfuogh said:
So, you piqued my interest, and I went and started searching for ICS features and stuff. Anyway, what are the main differences we'll be seeing on our transformers? It sounds like this update is more important for phones because a lot of features sound Honeycomb-esque (except for the swipe on the multi-task roulette to kill apps, that sounds awesome).
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There are so many changes this update is from the ground up in comparison to honeycomb
Think of honeycomb as the brainstorm and testing ideas and ice cream sandwich as the finished product
Framework changes UI changes memory management changes face detection improved multi tasking etc etc theres to much to list but its huge!!!!
What dog testing means is that google employees are now using a OTA of ice cream sandwich a mock up public release so to speak they say its a alpha but really its a late beta if they are sticking to there schedule plus why would they OTA a very ruff build no point so it has to be late stages or theres no point testing it on a specific device right?
Id say if they are doing this its a sign of fine tunning and getting out real world issues and bugs
Have i read but im hopefull for late december
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Danzano said:
There are so many changes this update is from the ground up in comparison to honeycomb
Think of honeycomb as the brainstorm and testing ideas and ice cream sandwich as the finished product
Framework changes UI changes memory management changes face detection improved multi tasking etc etc theres to much to list but its huge!!!!
What dog testing means is that google employees are now using a OTA of ice cream sandwich a mock up public release so to speak they say its a alpha but really its a late beta if they are sticking to there schedule plus why would they OTA a very ruff build no point so it has to be late stages or theres no point testing it on a specific device right?
Id say if they are doing this its a sign of fine tunning and getting out real world issues and bugs
Have i read but im hopefull for late december
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Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.

redbullcat said:
Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.
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Gingerbread, Honeycomb and ICS seem to be the start of something good
Android is still a baby in OS terms, Windows is an Old boy now but Windows 7 was the first decent OS since .... maybe 2000 or XP if you like that kind of thing
Computers are only just becoming powerful and affordable if you look at even 5 years ago
In the next 10 years we will see magic happen, in 20 years we will be laughing at the things we call cutting edge today and I am planning on being here in another 40 years time, just imagine...

You guys know that ICS is fully out on the Galaxy Nexus, which is already released in Europe, right?

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Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.
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I meant more this release of android is nearing completion for the list of devices getting OTA's including our TF101
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Ice Cream Sandwich is nowhere near the finished product. Matias (Duarte) says this is just the start of what he wants to do with Android.
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While I have no argument with Matias' comments, I do think that Android is, by now, a mature product compared to where it was with the 1.x or even 2.x versions.

Jelly Bean 5.0

I just found information that the unveiling of the new Jelly Bean 5.0 will be in Q2, so when we get 4.0 it is going to be already old and I doubt that we will get the update to 5.0
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!

Kalata_rs said:
I just found information that the unveiling of the new Jelly Bean 5.0 will be in Q2, so when we get 4.0 it is going to be already old and I doubt that we will get the update to 5.0
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Given that hardly any applications are available specifically for ICS yet, yet alone an unavailable future version, I personally don't see this as an issue.
Regards,
Dave
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Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I probably won't. I actually like the mobile OS on my mobile phone, regardless of the screen resolution and size.

breckbit said:
Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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Why would google release a tablet OS after merging both lines rather successfully? And I do use my Note with ICS tablet mode as daily driver.
Also, we'll probably see Jelly Bean phones come out after a while, ICS was previewed in May 2011 but was released in November.

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Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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I was looking forward to use it that way ever since I bought the note. Then I finally had the chance to try imilka's aosp ics in tablet mode. It was like a dream come true at first but then I noticed letters look so small making it unpractical as a daily driver. My new dream is to be able to use the phone as it is in high resolution w/ big letters but apps to be opened in tablet resolution by choice.
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as mnetioned Jb will be tablet only and i also seen quite early release but Q3 .. not earlier

Truth be told, we don't know that yet. Let google first announce it then we can speculate if it'll come or not.

breckbit said:
Jelly Bean will fokus Tablet-devices. Have you ever seen a mobile running HoneyComb? HC was also built for tablets. I think JellyBean won´t gain the user experience on a mobile. Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os". I don´t really think that it would hit our Notes. Beside from that point, would you use your Note with small density but with a tablet os as a daily driver?!
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ICS was made to bridge the gap between tablet and phone...there is no way they will split the two again.
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damador said:
as mnetioned Jb will be tablet only and i also seen quite early release but Q3 .. not earlier
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But where is the logic? Google makes Honeycomb, and it fails big time (let's be honest guys, it did) so they make ICS which will unify Android again and it will run on both phones and tablets. A part of the fragmentation is gone.
But not for long..
Jelly Bean! Lets do the same mistake again.
I'm sorry, but no. They can't be that dumb. Android releases a new version of the OS every year. I guess we'll get a preview of JB at Google I/O, and it'll get released sooner this year, like last year. By releasing a tablet-only OS, the phone OS will be lagging behind.
It's bull****.
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LordManhattan said:
Jelly Bean! Lets do the same mistake again.
I'm sorry, but no. They can't be that dumb. Android releases a new version of the OS every year. I guess we'll get a preview of JB at Google I/O, and it'll get released sooner this year, like last year. By releasing a tablet-only OS, the phone OS will be lagging behind.
It's bull****.
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Sounds perfectly logical to me.

As ics is an update to the phone software, namely GB, and honeycomb hasnt had an updated version as yet it seems likely that Jellybean would be tablet focused, although it is possible to install it, its not going to have the comms requirements to be able to use the note as anything else but a tablet.
I hope android 5.0 is for phones, but i seriously doubt that google would release 2 major versions of their os within such a short period of time when ics is going to be concentrated on for a long time to come, so back to the start of the post, i think hes right, 5.0 will likely be for tablets, which is great news, honeycomb is really nice on the tablet, but to get an update would be awesome.

graemeg said:
As ics is an update to the phone software, namely GB, and honeycomb hasnt had an updated version as yet it seems likely that Jellybean would be tablet focused
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First of all, yes, ICS is just as much an update to HC. There is nothing phone-specific about it and as should be fairly obvious, there's plenty of tablet available with ICS nowadays. Secondly, no, Google went to great lengths to unify both the tablet version of Android and the phone version of it, they won't start breaking the unification again.
I hope android 5.0 is for phones, but i seriously doubt that google would release 2 major versions of their os within such a short period of time when ics is going to be concentrated on for a long time to come
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As said, Google shot itself in the foot by separating phone and tablet versions of Android. ICS was the first step in unifying them. The plan has always been to do a new major version once a year and obviously ICS was last-year.
, so back to the start of the post, i think hes right, 5.0 will likely be for tablets, which is great news, honeycomb is really nice on the tablet, but to get an update would be awesome.
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Install ICS on your tablet then. There is absolutely nothing stopping you.
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Google advertise the JB functions with "dualboot with windows 8 - due to implemented chrome os".
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No, they don't. That's unsubstantiated fanboy-rumour. There is no way of dual-booting Windows 8 and another OS unless Microsoft specifically allows it for several reasons: Windows 8 requires the system to have SecureBoot enabled and not disableable and that Microsoft will not sell the ARM-version of Windows 8 to anyone else than official Microsoft-partners.
Go ahead and google a bit, read about SecureBoot and you'll see already why that is just a rumour.
JellyBean will possibly have dual-boot, yes, but it won't support Win8; it'll be for booting between Android and ChromeOS, and possibly Linux.

Honeycomb was a band-aid release to give manufacturers an OS that ran semi-decently on tablets as the existing 2.x releases wouldn't scale properly and were completely unsuitable (didn't stop some manufacturers using it though, e.g. the original Galaxy Tab).
There's some info as well as the usual assortment of blind speculation in this article: http://www.techradar.com/news/softw...-things-we-want-to-see-in-android-5-0-1036013
Also info from a press conference regarding how ICS will unify the tablet & phone UI's: http://blogs.nvidia.com/2012/01/nvi...ice-cream-sandwich-to-unify-android-platform/
Unless Google would like to commit OS-suicide, there is no waythey would release a separate version for "larger" devices at this stage. The "fragmentation" issue is bad enough as it is without them back pedalling, there will only be one combined Android OS for all devices from ICS onwards.
Regardless though, odds of the Note getting Jellybean via an official release is basically nil. I for one won't care, by the time it'd be likely to actually be available I'll probably have a newer device anyway.

Yeah as linked above, google publicly stated they are merging tablet and phone OS into a single code base and ICS would be it. Sure enough we got ICS just like they said. Not in a million years are they gonna fork suddenly. They flat out said so.

RogerPodacter said:
Yeah as linked above, google publicly stated they are merging tablet and phone OS into a single code base and ICS would be it. Sure enough we got ICS just like they said. Not in a million years are they gonna fork suddenly. They flat out said so.
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Certainly hope so my friend, it is good news indeed if they are concentrating on one solid sytem for all devices, that would be awesome, although, i wont Knock Honeycomb and ive never updated from it because like so many others i need stability and have feared venturing into the unknown abyss so far, honeycomb is great software and works well enough so im not too worried, once ics official is released then i will have a look at it.
But yer thanks for all the feedback guys, thats great to hear that Jellybean is going to be multisystem and with the info youve provided then yes id have to agree with you all that it probably is going to be multiplatform, which is what id initially hoped it would be, great stuff.
Any speculation on month of release, of course its difficult to guess bearing in mind ICS seems to have been around for quite a while now, but its really all down to when samsung are going to release it, i know they said Q1 for ics but it hasnt happened thus far, so i cant imagine JB would be at the start of Q2, my suspicion is most definitley for closer to the end of 2012 or start of 2013.

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but its really all down to when samsung are going to release it, i know they said Q1 for ics but it hasnt happened thus far, so i cant imagine JB would be at the start of Q2, my suspicion is most definitley for closer to the end of 2012 or start of 2013.
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The release of Jelly Bean is in no way or form connected to when phone manufacturers ship ICS. ICS was already shown back in May in 2011, so that's almost a year ago now. Also, Jelly Bean is not as much of changing the fundamentals of Android as an OS as ICS was, it's more about honing the little things, smoothing the corners and putting the dressing on top like e.g. voice control.
That said, I assume JB will be released during Q3, not Q2. It'll likely be previewed during Q2, though, and that's when Google will announce the up-and-coming features and fixes.

When will Chocolate marshmellow be released!? I wonder if we'll get that update...

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When will Chocolate marshmellow be released!? I wonder if we'll get that update...
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Android never released versions A and B, those names are lost... As far as the public is concerned, it started with :
Cupcake
Donut
Eclair
Froyo
Gingerbread
Honeycomb
Ice Cream Sandwhich
Jelly Bean
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You missed your chance with C... marshmallow still holds a chance!

ICS was previewed in May 2011 and launched in October 2011. Over 5 months later ICS can only be found in 2-3% of current Android devices.
I have to wonder how putting on even more pressure on developers and raising the frustration of the users by launching version 5.0 while the huge majority is still waiting for the v4 update could help your market share.
This is a good read regarding this issue : http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Jelly-Bean-Android-Gingerbread-Ice-Cream-Sandwich,news-14545.html

[Discussion] Android 4.1/5.0

This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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Billchen0014 said:
This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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new os means a new nexus phone, so i doubt a new os is coming .. just a minor update if anything

Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.

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Performance issues? I doubt it. Features don't necessarily mean slower though, better with ICSs built in data limiter/tracker than a 3rd party app for example. Depends on what they add though, of course.
Small chance we'll get it though. I'm leaning towards a fat no if it's released beyond August or so, before that and we may have a chance. Either way, we'll have rock solid ports within weeks, just like ICS. It amazed me how stable initial ports of ICS were before it was released officially, it was my daily driver (i believe i used eugenes). I have (blind?) faith in the same thing when JB is released.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.

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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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Think about it: it might be a new interface/design for a tablet, Android really need something solid if they want any chance of fighting iOS and windows RT.
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I am 100% confident that there will be minimum visual changes. The dev team spend so much effort into making a guideline for Android app designs, they are most certainly not gonna ditch that. So that leaves us with one other major change Google can bring to the platform: speed improvements. Both app speeds and overall smoothness. If you check Google io app and the schedules in there, one of them is all about app smoothness and maintaining a constant frame rate. I am hoping that third party apps will be as smooth as the iOS counter parts within a few releases. But back to what this thread is about: I think NS is highly likely to get this update, since it runs ICS okay, but not as fast as some desired, (multi-tasking). So this update should be like froyo, not much visual, lots of under the hood changes, if NS can run ics, it can run jb.
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Considering that it seems like RAM usage is going relatively well within ICS, i can't see any worry about that there. 1GB would've helped in any situation, not just moving toward JB which likely wouldn't make a difference. That's the main thing that could have held the NS back. I'm with you unless IO implies anything otherwise. I'm thinking alot more will have to do with dual and quad core setups than our NSs single, particularly with the idea of constant framerates in mind. I see how there isn't that much left to do in the same environment and considering how much effort was put into ICS little will change that's not well below what we see happening, and most of that relates directly to performance and basically making the UI smoother, prettier and maybe a touch more colourful.

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This is inevitable. In a week's time, Google is going to release a new version of Android to compete with iOS 6. The million dollar question is: will the old and already underpowered back when it was launched Nexus S get an OFFICIAL update to Jelly Bean? I seriously doubt it. But there is hope. If it is a speed booster rather than a entirely new design and power hungry features, I think the Nexus S might get lucky. What do you guys think? Fingers crossed.
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I think that if it's more bloated and non-optimized, even less handsets could possibly get it then ICS. So I'm more positive NS will get it

Seeing as ICS was meant to be a unification of tablet/smartphone OS, I don't think they would release another tablet exclusive OS to tear that unity apart again. Also, if we're learning from the past here, the Nexus One got two updates before losing support so Jelly Bean should be the final update for the Nexus S.
Also, since ICS was a major interface revamp, I think Jelly Bean's gonna be focusing on other parts so really, Nexus S does not have any reason not to be able to support it. We'll see though

Have you seen this?
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/20/did-we-just-get-a-sneak-peak-at-jelly-bean-in-google-io-screenshot/#
Seems that the new version will be like froyo / GB transition, more improvement, better visuals. Maybe our devices will get the update.

Yea I'd be happy with a few extra features like magel but the main thing for me is probably just speed and making things look a little nicer ..
I hope they call it 4.1 if it's a smallish update though otherwise will have the same issues iOS six had in that really is like 5.5
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/2...in-play-store-outs-jelly-bean-as-android-4-1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724180

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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What makes you say that?

sdhanjal15 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WGO6eQd24&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looks like we won't be getting it.......
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This video has absolutely nothing to do with the Nexus S, so what makes you say we won't be getting it?! Galaxy Nexus has also been the first to get 4.0, so what?

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I think it depends on how big the step in version-numbers will be. 4.1 - we'll get it. 5.0 - nope.
Jelly Bean has always been rumored to be 5.0, but latest news have it to be 4.1. (Benchmark logs of an upcoming android tablet)
Remember the nexus one - it started with 2.1 and went all the way to an official 2.3.6.
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"all the way" is stretching it though. We got from 2.3.6 to 4.0.4. Much better than the Nexus One in that respect.

Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Nothing has been set in stone. We won't know until Google says something. I posted those 2 links to show that JB looks to be a minor upgrade from 4.0.4>4.1. I think if this is the case, there's a chance we'd get it. Remember the N1 went from 2.1>2.2>2.3. 4.0 was a major change, which was the need for the first number in the version to change. Just my .02
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Agree with you here. Minor updates are usually pushed, major ones aren't necessarily. I think the only reason the Nexus S got ICS is that there would have been an outcry if we didn't. Seriously, a Google phone with absolutely no upgrade? That would have been ridiculous.