Hi guys, let me just get down to the meat of the issue. I think its time we all come together and apply some form of social pressure on samsung concerning their update road map for the (second gen) galaxy tab series (10.1,8.9 and 7 plus) I paid about $575 for the 16gb 3G version of the galaxy tab 8.9 and almost returned it immediately because of the horrendous lag of the device (in landscape mode) when swyping across home screens and application grid. Thankfully I followed the advise of many here and installed a custom rom (in my case overcome) which made the device much more usable. What is most annoying is not just how samsung allowed such a laggy device to be released but also keeping mute about any update plans whatsoever. I am not even talking about ice cream sandwich, honeycomb 3.2 has been out for a couple of months now and all the major android honeycomb tablets (The Xoom and transformer) has received updates on their devices. even though mainly a bug fix release. Honeycomb 3.2 would go a long way to fix many of the annoyance currently experienced by galaxy tab owners.
I am not saying samsung should update my device tomorrow, but at least don't keep me in the dark. We all paid top dollars for their device hence the least they could do is to keep us informed on pending updates and also be damn fast about it. There is no doubt as to the legendariness of samsung's hardware awesomeness. Till date they have the best phone hardware in the market (galaxy s2 is the gold standard by which other mobile phones are measured) and their 2nd generation galaxy tab are the best tablets hardware ever. But samsung scores a zero when it comes to communicating with their users. It doesn't hurt to let your users know what is coming .. it removes the need for rumours and makes them even more loyal. And we are loyal bunch of users. Even though the world would have us believe that tablets start and ends with ipad. we stuck with samsung and all we ask is that they at least treat us with respect. Acknowledge by taking to us.
I can not describe the wave of jealousy I get everytime I hear acer talk about how their updates plans for ice cream sandwich and how the OG transformer would be receiving updates this year end, how the transformer is getting the second batch of ice cream sandwich updates.. all the while I am refreshing XDA forum waiting for a good Samaritan from the community to release the fix that I expected from samsung. I think this is unacceptable.
I don't think we sit milkly by and accept this kinda treatment from samsung. I think its time we take them to task using social media. I don't own a facebook account but I don't mind creating one. Its time we make our self heard and get samsung to listen to us.. Goal is simple. samsung needs to become more engaged with its fans and users. I mean what harm could come out of letting users know about update plans? what ill could come out of prompt updates to recent android release. I am a proud owner and the galaxy s2 and with that device I am not so much concerned with updates. But that is because the galaxy s2 is a master piece and runs fine as it is. I can not say the same about my galaxy tab 8.9.. The performance of that device could be better. software not hardware is behind the laggy performance which is why it pisses me to no small extent knowing they is a software update out there which fixes my issue. Other OEMs are releasing it to their devices (or engaging their users on future release) while samsung just keeps mute.
My goal is to get samsung to engage us their users more on update plans. or roadmap.
And To get them to be more speedy when it comes to releasing updates.
How do we go about this. looking at the success of how sustained facebook campaigns has worked for HTC, LG and motorolla users in the past, how it has gotten these companies to reverse policies which were unfriendly to their users. I think its time samsung galaxy tab users get on facebook and mount a sustained but peaceful and civil plea to samsung. Let us make our voices heard.
Its time we direct our inquiries directly to samsung. Hopefully we can raise enough dust that someone high up would push the button that makes the necessary changes.
Either way it's in samsung interest to be known as an OEM which listens to their users.
Its in their interest to be known as an OEM who always release updates for their device.
Does anyone share my thoughts on this?
About updates, it seems to me that Samsung produces a lot of updates every month, they just don't push them out. We get at least two leaked firmware a month. I'm ok with that because I don't like Kies anyway and Odin is easy to use. Android 3.2 seems to be out in Korea, so it can't be far for us, I expect the next leak to have it (KJ1?).
About the gt8.9 lag in landscape mode, unfortunately I think that's hardware problem. All tabs with tegra soc have this lag in portrait. For some unknown reason the gt8.9 screen is rotated 90 degrees (look in build.prop file) and that's why it has this problem in landscape. So I don't believe android 3.2 will fix this. Maybe ICS will, if it does do something very differently in launcher.
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About updates, it seems to me that Samsung produces a lot of updates every month, they just don't push them out. We get at least two leaked firmware a month. Android 3.2 seems to be out in Korea, so it can't be far for us, I expect the next leak to have it (KJ1?)..
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which brings me to the point of user engagement. Samsung could do better in that area. Its just hikes me when acer, motorola and HTC release update road map for their devices and we get nothing from samsung. They could do better in that regards
About the gt8.9 lag in landscape mode, unfortunately I think that's hardware problem. All tabs with tegra soc have this lag in portrait. For some unknown reason the gt8.9 screen is rotated 90 degrees (look in build.prop file) and that's why it has this problem in landscape. So I don't believe android 3.2 will fix this. Maybe ICS will, if it does do something very differently in launcher
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Your signature listed the xoom with hc 3.2.1 does that mean you still have same lag even with honeycomb 3.2?
we are not even sure about ICS samsung has not said anything officially about which device would get updated and when. (and no random comment from a samsung italian site/facebook page does not count as official)
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Your signature listed the xoom with hc 3.2.1 does that mean you still have same lag even with honeycomb 3.2?
we are not even sure about ICS samsung has not said anything officially about which device would get updated and when. (and no random comment from a samsung italian site/facebook page does not count as official)
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Yes, Xoom with Android 3.2.1 still isn't smooth when changing homescreens in portrait. Like i already said, it's a known problem with all Tergra 2 Honeycomb tablets. Only new thing about GT8.9 is that in that case it's in landscape and not portrait. If you don't believe me, hold your tab in portrait and you will see how smooth the scrolling through homescreens is. I can't believe Samsung didn't know about this problem, it seems they just thought that we can live with it. I can and have lived with my Xoom and GT10.1 that have this problem in portrait mode and i have never complained about this issue because i rarely use the tablet in portrait. But having this problem in landscape... i'm starting to hate my GT8.9 which i bought just a few days ago. I'm now using GT8.9 with only one homescreen set up because i don't want to see this jerky scrolling.
All I care about is that we get an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM in a timely manner. Since Samsung is the launch partner with Google on ICS, they'd better do more than just try to sell the Galaxy Nexus.
I have to say that I'm not impressed with the lack of updates either -- a device of this caliber deserves to not be released and then ignored over time. Just like a desktop or laptop computer, I expect to apply updates on a regular basis to fix reliability and security bugs, at the OS level.
As if this ever worked. Are we in kindergarten or what?
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
Now just give us a system dump so the rest of us can flash it
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So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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Lanky14 said:
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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Picture, or it didn't happen. Also seems that some guys in Israel, I think, have also got it. JK1 that was called. I think Task650 is helping that guy to dump the system. Maybe I should mention that that was for 7510.
Lanky14 said:
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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Turn it to portrait, is scrolling through homescreens still smooth? I don't think so.
It would definately be great to get updates more often.
But on the other hand I do not recall Samsung having ever published, promised etc. that they will provide updates on a regular basis. It's just a nice thing that happens and I think.
Howcome do people feel they have a right to regular free updates?
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Picture, or it didn't happen. Also seems that some guys in Israel, I think, have also got it. JK1 that was called. I think Task650 is helping that guy to dump the system. Maybe I should mention that that was for 7510.
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Turn it to portrait, is scrolling through homescreens still smooth? I don't think so.
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a bit more choppy, but not bad at all!
I don't think it will ever be iPad smooth... but way more bearable then when it was 3.1
Lanky14 said:
So I'm in Canada and just got my galaxy 10.1 back from Samsung tech support (for repairs) and it came back with Honeycomb 3.2
I must say that it is wayyy smoother and better then 3.1
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If you have the time, I am sure some devs would love a system dump of 3.2 Here is a guide using adb: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-654561.html
Thanks!
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If you have the time, I am sure some devs would love a system dump of 3.2 Here is a guide using adb: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-654561.html
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I have no problem doing that except I am about to head out on a 3 week vacation. If no one else has done it by beginning of Dec (I get back the 3rd), I will gladly do it
You can't be serious. Vacation can wait, dump that image
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You can't be serious. Vacation can wait, dump that image
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hahahha exactly! hook us up! lol (take your laptop with you)
I have the 7.0 Plus and its sort of smooth while swiping in either mode. It only stutters maybe 1 out of 10 swipes.
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I have the 7.0 Plus and its sort of smooth while swiping in either mode. It only stutters maybe 1 out of 10 swipes.
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7.0+ doesn't have Tegra 2 SoC so this doesn't mean much, except it proves that its a hardware problem on Tegra tablets.
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From a Dutch site: http://www.tabletguide.nl/5393/samsung-galaxy-tab-krijgt-gingerbread-update/
Basically it says that Samsung employees in Germany have spread out the word that the Tab will get a Gingerbread update.... eventually (that is, they didn't mention when)
Let the FW leaks silently begin
That's not good news to me, I have a tablet, I want Honeycomb!
Lol. A firmware update is always good to me. Hopefully we'll get at least either.
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2.4
Gingerbread is basically the same as froyo. The only real improvement is making the text selecting more intuitive. I want the api from honeycomb, for dual pane applications and the new 3d interface.
So that means either honeycomb or 2.4. For me 2.4 is probably better, since I will meanly be using the tab as a phone with a tablet profile.
So Sammy, please give us 2.4 and not just 2.3.
yes, nothing to write home about
if you want 2.3 go get the cm7 beta from the dev section
what i want is a honeycomb port
It is a good thing, because of possibly updated drivers we can use in a Honeycomb port
Don't know if I want a honeycomb port. What I want is a performance improvement and Gingerbread is such an improvement. The JIT compiler is optimized again (like it was the case with froyo) and there is a concurrent garbage collector for better memory management.
If honeycomb is even faster (for a non dual core device) yes than I want honeycomb. And as for the beta build, I rather wait for a beta of the 2.4 Frankenstein build LoL
Furthermore, if Samsung is committing itself to an upgrade, this means the tab won't become obsolete when other new 7" tablets hit the market, like for example the Flyer. It means that they have plans to stay on top of this segment, which is great. Maybe they will also improve the built in Samsung software, like for example the browser and the mail app. So no buzz, but rather the real thing for me
I'd be happy enough to see Gingerbread arrive (the CM7 beta on here is unfortunately a long way from being a stable release). Not so sure about Honeycomb. That's specifically for tablets without hardware buttons. Would seem out of place on the Tab - which let's be honest is a lot closer to a phone than a tablet, despite being awesome at that. I think Samsung will skip Honeycomb and head for the release that combines Honeycomb UI and phone functionality. Whatever happens, it'll be nice if Samsung supports the device with OS updates for at least a year.
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I'd be happy enough to see Gingerbread arrive (the CM7 beta on here is unfortunately a long way from being a stable release). Not so sure about Honeycomb. That's specifically for tablets without hardware buttons. Would seem out of place on the Tab - which let's be honest is a lot closer to a phone than a tablet, despite being awesome at that. I think Samsung will skip Honeycomb and head for the release that combines Honeycomb UI and phone functionality. Whatever happens, it'll be nice if Samsung supports the device with OS updates for at least a year.
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I think it's relatively easy to map the galaxy Tabs hardware buttons to the software functionality as soon as the source goes AOSP
Then we can get rid of the software buttons too... boom! perfect!
I hope the new launcher doesn't eat up too much performance
and I fudging want GTalk with video support!
I'm not so sure but can't we port Samsung galaxay s gingerbread to tab
Yay for gingerbread/icecream/icecream sandwich! (or whatever it's called these days) This is comforting news at least, knowing that they are not ditching the smaller device in favor of the shiny new 8.9 and 10 inch models..
Good news, but I want Honeycomb!
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I'm not so sure but can't we port Samsung galaxay s gingerbread to tab
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I've read that the galaxy tab and galaxy line of phones have similar hardware... makes me think that new versions of android that are released for the phones could potentially work on our tabs.
not sure though, and im not a dev.. but i'd love some fresh official sgt firmware releases before samsung stops supporting the tab
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and i fudging want gtalk with video support! :d
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Looks like the Xoom and some new 7 inch tablets could be getting 3.2 in the coming weeks.
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/06/20/...t-for-several-screen-sizes-and-qualcomm-cpus/
* Ability to run on a "range" of display sizes
* Support for Qualcomm processors
* Bug fixes
* Better hardware acceleration
* Updates for Movie Studio, Movies, Music, and widgets
Hope the work Samsung is doing with TouchWiz UX doesn't delay us getting this 3.2 update. I could sure go for a nice big cup of "bug fixes" right about now. And some of that "better hardware acceleration" would taste good too.
i'd stick with vanilla for now, as honeycomb def still needs polishing. hardware acceleration is important, and i hope they improve text selection, copy and paste, and overall text typing, as i find those to be the most frustrating right now.
I bet you we'll either get it late or Samsung will throw touchwiz over top it. If they do i hope one of the devs can get all of that ugly UI junk off of it.
Or maybe 3.2 is the reason why Samsung didn't ship the tab with TouchWiz....
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Or maybe 3.2 is the reason why Samsung didn't ship the tab with TouchWiz....
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yeah so they can say to us: "You want 3.2? Well you'll have to update your Tab to TouchWiz"
th0r615 said:
yeah so they can say to us: "You want 3.2? Well you'll have to update your Tab to TouchWiz"
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You may be right, but they never promised you a stock android device either.
I'm taking the wait and see approach rather than seemingly everybody else's negative approach.
Google already said they are not releasing the source code of 3.x so what I am waiting on is 4.0 so that the CM team can bake up a nice rom. But until then I am really happy with how well mine is working. There has been some lag but only when like 10 apps are running.
Apparently in the middle east (launch mid july)- the tab will be launched with touch wiz instead of vanilla honeycomb - i'll still be picking it up - with hopes of flashing north american firmware on it to get vanilla honeycomb - also I was told touch wiz is almost final - should be coming for you folks by mid july and it(final version) is quite smooth.
I used a test version ( very laggy) and one other what appeared to be a rc version - (much smoother but not vanilla smooth)
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I just hope this tablet gets Ice Cream Sandwich.
samsung is notorious for their lack of updates
To beperfectly honest I bought the tab under the impression that it will be on 3.1 as long as I keep it lol
I wouldn't write them off, yet. Look what they've been doing on Twitter and how they're treating the outside development of their devices.
I mean, at I/O Samsung was one of the partners saying that they would update products up to 18 months from their release, so it would be a violation of a contract with Google if they don't update.
When I talked to a Samsung rep, they told me I didn't have to download TouchWiz if I didn't want it.....but I wouldn't get said bug fixes, Google updates without having TouchWiz.
The Xoom (USA Wifi version) users are having their official 3.2 updates OTA now!
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/07/1...arts-to-arrive-for-some-wi-fi-motorola-xooms/
Where is ours?
I dont even have the 3.1 update for my 10.1v.
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
Wait for Touchwiz before Android 3.2
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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That's pretty much the case.
Now that TW is coming. No way we'll see 3.2 anytime soon. Not a chance with Samsungs history.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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I would disagree somewhat. The Galaxy S has been upgraded to Gingerbread on European versions of the phone. While updates for phones in the past have been lagging I would view that Samsung has taken a new approach as of late. The majority of the phones released around the same time period as the Galaxy S line have not received the Gingerbread update either. I would respond to you and ask for another cell phone manufacturer who is doing it better? Also besides zoom to fit (which spare parts will fix) there's not much benefit of 3.2 for us. The update adds zoom to fit, finally enables SD cards on the Xoom, and is more optimized to fit on 7" tablets i.e. 7-inch Huawei MediaPad.
As for Touchwiz I felt V3 was in need of much work (it does appear to be revamped a tad and smoother on the latest Fascinate GB leak) however V4 on the SGII has me sold on it being the default launcher on my phone. It is butter smooth and I love how it is laid out. If you were to poll the majority of Android users on XDA I would wager over 75% are unhappy with their stock manufacturer's launcher. I am looking forward to what Samsung will bring to the table.
I myself believe that Honeycomb is still very "beta-ish" in its current state. It was rushed and is extremely buggy. I think releasing the source code would help immensely as devs could iron out bugs (which they nicely do for Google now on the phone side). However, I do not believe it will be released before a transition into Ice Cream Sandwich.
Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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There's a HC 3.1 ROM by seo available in the 10.1v section - incl. TouchWiz.
Dont know
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Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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This sounds about right. Especially the "maybe."
seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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It's not just about smaller screen tablets. It brings some small bug fixes also:
There is no lag on up side down home screen. Portrait is also better but not much.
Browser seems a little faster and typing a message on XDA doesn't lag as bad as it did on 3.1
I was also planning to buy SGT, but now I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to wait for updates. In this regard, the US Xoom is the best tablet. Only downside is that the US 3G version doesn't work in Europe and i want a tablet with 3G connectivity.
I got the update(wifi Only). Any one have a clue how to access it? Or make Sgt use it? The SD card i mean..lol
There isn't a 3.2 update for Galaxy Tab, and there is no SD card either. Troll somewhere else
I've been a forum reader/poster for over 20 years. Seen many things and read many posts. I know trolls and I know funny.
It's safe to say that the threads that I've read on the XDA forums have the most people with lack of sense of humor than any I've been a part of.
Why is that?
I didn't think it was funny... It was a clear troll post.
Could the 10.1 run 3.2 from the Zoom, or does it have to be made specifically for the Samsung 10.1?
Because supposedly reverse landscape and portrait mode performance are improved, near regular landscape performance.
Thanks for making my point.
Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
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I doubt there will be any hardware limitations, atleast I'm not aware of any. I'm quite sure there will be some cheap Tegra2 devices with Icecream Sandwich soon after it's released.
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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Acer sucks, I wouldn't hold my breath. It's likely that we'll need a custom ROM for A500.
google released a statement saying there were no new hardware limitations, so we should be compatible.
Well ics is going to open source all the other good tablets are tegra 2 so i couldn't imagine something getting cooked up a week or so after source drops
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Well I'll keep my fingers crossed then. 4.0 sounds really promising
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Acer sucks, I wouldn't hold my breath. It's likely that we'll need a custom ROM for A500.
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Didn't know Acer did so bad in supporting their hardware. They did provide updates to 3.1 and 3.2 right?
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Well I'll keep my fingers crossed then. 4.0 sounds really promising
Didn't know Acer did so bad in supporting their hardware. They did provide updates to 3.1 and 3.2 right?
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Yup. Just a little behind schedule - and without great communication.
This is typical Acer. Lucky part is - as Android users we can choose to not rely on the hardware devs and run custom roms.
ICS should definitly be able to be placed on the A500. All Android tablets now pretty much have the same hardware, the Tegra 2 chipset. If no ICS for the A500, I would assume no ICS for any Tegra 2 device. Which I believe 100% will not be the case.
And hopefully when ICS releases, they will release the source code so we can have AOSP ROMS. Then it wont matter whether Acer releases an official ROM because devs can build from AOSP and throw in the necessary code for the specific hardware of the A500.
Finally got the A500
I have been reading this user group comments for weeks now to gain as much info about the A500 as possible and after reading comments both good and bad, I decided to go out and buy.
I really love this device. It is better than I anticipated. It came with 3.01, however Acer upgraded the firmware over the weekend first to 3.1 and then to 3.2, so I am very impressed, (after having Samsung devices for 18 months and receiving no updates at all, still on 2.2).
I am very glad this U.G. exists as many of my questions have already come to the fore, thanks for that. The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
There has been talk about Ice Cream Sandwich running on the A500, does anyone know what is different about android 4.0 compared to 3.2?
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I have been reading this user group comments for weeks now to gain as much info about the A500 as possible and after reading comments both good and bad, I decided to go out and buy.
I really love this device. It is better than I anticipated. It came with 3.01, however Acer upgraded the firmware over the weekend first to 3.1 and then to 3.2, so I am very impressed, (after having Samsung devices for 18 months and receiving no updates at all, still on 2.2).
I am very glad this U.G. exists as many of my questions have already come to the fore, thanks for that. The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
There has been talk about Ice Cream Sandwich running on the A500, does anyone know what is different about android 4.0 compared to 3.2?
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My girlfriend makes the same threats Just Google 'Ice Cream Sandwich features' for some more info. They haven't released a whole lot of info yet, but in a nutshell it will be a a uniform operating system that will run on phones and tablets instead of 2 different OS. Some cool new features have been discussed, but I have a feeling there's a lot we won't find out about until it gets released (October/November last I heard).
It is officialy stated that tegra 2 devices wil be given ICS update.
http://acer-a500.ru/news/880-planshety-na-baze-tegra-2-poluchat-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich.html
Main advantage - 1 OS for all devices! Easier for app devs, easier for Google
This article is based on Eric Schmidt's statement.
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The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
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tgtoys said:
My girlfriend makes the same threats
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You both have boring girlfriends tbh! Fiddling with electronics, gadgets and games is fun, and it's even more fun together :3
But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
WereCatf said:
But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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You're so very very bad!
I like it!
WereCatf said:
You both have boring girlfriends tbh! Fiddling with electronics, gadgets and games is fun, and it's even more fun together :3
But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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Yea, I got myself an A100 and gave her my A500(bought her a logitech bluetooth keyboard to go with it). So I get the smaller lighter "nimbler" device. She got the bigger thicker device so she gets a stronger grip.
All kidding aside, tablets do make excellent platforms for watching porn with your partner. It even has dual cameras in case you want to make your own too.
muqali said:
Yea, I got myself an A100 and gave her my A500(bought her a logitech bluetooth keyboard to go with it). So I get the smaller lighter "nimbler" device. She got the bigger thicker device so she gets a stronger grip.
All kidding aside, tablets do make excellent platforms for watching porn with your partner. It even has dual cameras in case you want to make your own too.
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ok??? Thanks for the marital guidence guys... I think??
Roll on Ice Cream Sandwich or... is that something kinky??
rosse912003 said:
ok??? Thanks for the marital guidence guys... I think??
Roll on Ice Cream Sandwich or... is that something kinky??
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I was taking their kidding and making a real comment that the 7" form factor tablet is a good blend for an aid to lovemaking, yes. While I joked with them, I meant my statement to have no innuendo and intended it to be just my obesrvation.
Certainly wasn't trying to offend and apologize if it came across the wrong way.
hav0c said:
Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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I consider everything rumor and speculation until it actually happens, even when it comes from companies themselves. But to date, we've been told that ICS is a merging of the phone and tablet OS. That in and of itself should allow us the luxury of surmising that this OS should work on all if not most devices currently running Gingerbread and Honeycomb at the very least.
It will be of course up to manufacturers to take the time to port it to their past devices, something not very many companies are ever willing to do since it doesn't really add any physical value (for them) to the product but I would think the current tablet providers would essentially get the update to their products as quickly as they can considering 1. they don't have a multitude of variants on the market and 2. they still have lots on store shelves etc. so it would indeed add physical value to their product - unlike for example, expecting HTC to update their Mytouch 4G or Samsung to update their Galaxy I US carrier line which have been on the market for almost a year.
Don't believe any rumors you hear and remember to take everything right now as speculation and with a grain of salt. Acer could very well today say they will update and a month or 2 after it's out tell us it won't/can't be done. Such is the way of tech.
I think it will come to the A500. Maybe not as quickly as it does to the Tab 10.1 or Transformer, but not too long afterwards. Acer has proven themselves to at the very least be consistent with their updates if albeit slow (for some), and so I'll take my positives where I can. I'm fine with slow and steady.
Erica wants icecream now.give this woman what she needs.icecream with sprinkles.taste a rainbow.
All seroious thou if we gwt it will come from dev or very late.booohooo
I've just received notification for update 4.031.26 for A501
I'm in Australia
muqali said:
I was taking their kidding and making a real comment that the 7" form factor tablet is a good blend for an aid to lovemaking, yes. While I joked with them, I meant my statement to have no innuendo and intended it to be just my obesrvation.
Certainly wasn't trying to offend and apologize if it came across the wrong way.
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No worries mate, just being a little light hearted. You're sharing from your heart, just like it should be. By the way, do you play mkv files? If so, what player do you use?
bmc622000 said:
I've just received notification for update 4.031.26 for A501
I'm in Australia
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From what previous version ?
Well i mean this is just speculation from my standpoint.
For wifi versions, no 3rd party software developers are impeding the process
I.E. Verizon LTE versions are affected by Verizon's wishes as some people had problems with the Fascinate if you know what i mean.
Now i believe that the reason we are not getting anymore updates on the 10.1 tab for honeycomb is because of the upcoming release of the ICS.
Because ICS will be for both phones and tablets, there is probably no interest from Samsung to spend the time and the resources to update their tablets to the most updated software.
And as we all know Samsung got the first dibs on the ISC software code, i think it is not in the near future that Samsung begins to release ICS source code for all of their products.
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
OH well this was just my simple rant for today
I wanted to know what your thoughts were..
Best,
3.2 is more for smaller screen tabs. We are not missing much aside from resizable Widgets.
Look at all the issues the guys in the Asus forums are having with 3.2.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
Since its been only two month since the "Touchwiz" update and there are no pressing bugs to fix nor brings 3.2 any real needed functionality, I'm not surprised that Samsung hasn't updated the tab. A new version number might seem important to a few people but I can understand why it's not exactly high priority at Samsungs.
The 7+ is launching next month on T-Mobile US with 3.2. The SGS2 currently runs 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5 depending on the market. We think a lot harder about this than Samsung does.
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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Raistlin1 said:
I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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I want a pony.
millemots said:
Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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Lol hahghaa. That would be funny of they really are.
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
ICS is around the corner..
Also..who here thinks that Steve Kondik uses a Galaxy Tab 10.1 as well?
thinking CM8 ? that will be a very very nice addition to the tab
me personally cant wait till ICS goes open source so that CM team can take it and start doing CM8
hoping that CM8 alpha comes in two month or so.. (assuming Google exposes ICS to the world by mid Oct)
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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That's the same thought I had when I read his comment.
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
span_01 said:
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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Actually the latest update KI1 (for the European GT10.1 3G) makes the GT10.1 much smoother then my Xoom wich has Android 3.2.1
Other then the app resize function, there is nothing new in 3.2 and i have never used this function.
Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I think people should just enjoy their Tabs...
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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True, we all want the latest and greatest. I'm using a custom rom that has completely changed my experience with the tab. Enjoying this. . .I can wait.
Probably because they are really busy optimising 3.1 for GT 10.1v.
chlrbwls said:
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
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They'll almost certainly be working on it but the devices you've listed will be released with 2.3.X, 3.2 and 3.2 respectively.
So Samsung clearly are devoting some resources to working on 3.2, albeit for other models of Tab.
It raises the possibility that the 3.2 update might be released around the same time as these new models of Tab, though it's obviously a matter of waiting and seeing.
nandihno said:
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
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Whilst ICS is certainly a bigger update than 3.2, I don't feel we should have to justify missing out on one software update by hoping that we get the next one sooner.
Good after-sales support would've seen us running 3.2 already as well as receiving ICS, not one or the other.
And the fact that Samsung seem completely unconcerned about updating the Tab 10.1 to 3.2 must surely raise questions as to their commitment to bringing ICS to it in a timely fashion.
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
So I would also imagine that since the carriers aren't involved in the WIFI model's update process that we will be seeing faster updates for the US WIFI model.
MMcCraryNJ said:
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
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They may be making the hardware but the mark of a Nexus device is that Google handles the software in-house, Samsung quite possibly will have had minimal access to the code so far.
Equally, Google are supposed to be implementing a scheme whereby the larger, 'better' Android OEMs get advanced access to the source code of new Android versions in return for keeping their devices updated quickly and generally providing the best possible user experience for their Android devices.
So it is possible Samsung already have access to the ICS source code but, as I said, it's hard to be positive about ICS when Samsung seemingly can't be bothered bringing us a much smaller update.
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I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
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The i9000 has had Gingerbread for a while now, yeah, though it was still a fair way behind other handsets in receiving the update - a number of HTCs got in there first if memory serves.
That said, as someone else already pointed out, Samsung have done a far better job of keeping the Galaxy S2 updated, so it seems that they are at least moving in the right direction.
Check out my post, its title Ipad 3, we are all dealing with this slow update process, apple is far ahead in the update department.
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