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[Q] 3.1 or not.

So I have had my A500 for a week now and love it but still getting used to it. When I first purchased it and opened it up on first boot I setup the wi-fi etc it came up with update available, Said ok and it did the update.
When looking at the about side of things its saying its version 3.0.0.1 or was it 3.0.1 (am at work and cannot remember exactly. So has the 3.1 update been put out and that's what I updated to or is there still the update to come ??.

20 seconds of searching would net you your answer.
3.1 is due out at the end of June, but no exact date as yet.

on 30 June @23:59:59 exactly PST!

6/23
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beaups said:
6/23
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Oh man, is this it? 6/23?
I've had my Iconia for a day (upgrade from Advent Vega). It's awesome, but I miss being able to use my Xbox controller for ye olde sega/nes/psx games.
Very much looking forward to 'official' xbox pad support, and hoping it brings analogue stick functionality with it (I'm guessing it does - right now, I only get dpad/button/triggers working on the Vega).
The 23rd... an agonising 11 days.

yeah I can't wait and I really think why it took so long is cause Acer had to add things to improve a500s quality with honeycomb, more than motorola and Asus had to.

I think many, many people are thinking the 3.1 update is going to be the holy grail of Android.
I, for one, will be waiting to update - you lot can be the 'first adopters' and get all the bugs, I'll wait for 3.101.
3.1 will not be the all-fix thing you think it'll be.

3.1 the holy grail !!!
I didn't heard about something after 3.1... such as a 3.x or 4.0 ... what the future of Android ?

Afer 3.1? Ice Cream Sandwich. It is the unifying firmware to run both phone and tablets and anything in between. The holy grail of a smartphone OS. After that? Ice Cream Sandwich 2.0. Etc..

4dthinker said:
Afer 3.1? Ice Cream Sandwich. It is the unifying firmware to run both phone and tablets and anything in between. The holy grail of a smartphone OS. After that? Ice Cream Sandwich 2.0. Etc..
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no
after that
Honeycomb will become Spicy Buritos 4.0 Ultimate Android version with the tequila notification and the samba starting screen

sanaell said:
no
after that
Honeycomb will become Spicy Buritos 4.0 Ultimate Android version with the tequila notification and the samba starting screen
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Yeah, mexican food and brazilian music. That would be nice

Fluffbutt said:
I think many, many people are thinking the 3.1 update is going to be the holy grail of Android.
I, for one, will be waiting to update - you lot can be the 'first adopters' and get all the bugs, I'll wait for 3.101.
3.1 will not be the all-fix thing you think it'll be.
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3.101? That could be a long wait

sarcasmo said:
3.101? That could be a long wait
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To be honest, I don't think so..
I think there will plenty of bugs in 3.1 - this forum will be FULL of posts about gps not working after update, or wifi, or mSD card, or whatever.
3.1.001 will be out before the end of August to address those faults.

Fluffbutt said:
To be honest, I don't think so..
I think there will plenty of bugs in 3.1 - this forum will be FULL of posts about gps not working after update, or wifi, or mSD card, or whatever.
3.1.001 will be out before the end of August to address those faults.
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Why do you write such nonsense?
the port which is already made, which is not even perfect.. and its still pretty good..
fast browsing is the major i think for this release..
launcher less laggy
wifi,gps etc.. works pretty ok i think for a asus port..
so please.. false arguments.. 3.1 is already on our device in a unofficial port, and initial reports are good (if you please ignore media playback)
the official 3.1 can only be better, if acer do just as good!!
but we seem to have to wait alot longer for the official to get out..

Dexter_nlb said:
Why do you write such nonsense?
the port which is already made, which is not even perfect.. and its still pretty good..
fast browsing is the major i think for this release..
launcher less laggy
wifi,gps etc.. works pretty ok i think for a asus port..
so please.. false arguments.. 3.1 is already on our device in a unofficial port, and initial reports are good (if you please ignore media playback)
the official 3.1 can only be better, if acer do just as good!!
but we seem to have to wait alot longer for the official to get out..
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And what makes you think, out of all the things Acer have done (for eg. ignore all requests for unlocked loaders, ignore emails (well, ignore the first 3-7 emails), they'll make 3.1 'better' than it is.
EVERY time there's been an update from Acer, there are a flood of posts here about something not working after the update - why do you think 3.1 will be any different?
And, to paraphrase you - initial reports are good, but only if you ignore something that's bad.. and you really think that's a logical statement?
1940 - 1945 were lovely years to be alive, if you ignore that silly war thing.
3.1 is very likely to be better than 3.0 - if only because they've managed to fix 3.0's bugs (like ANY update).
I just think it'll come with it's own slew of both new and old-unfixed bugs, and this forum will once again be filled with posts about xx not working, or yy force closes when it didn't before, etc.
Lets face it, there's been, what?, 3 or 5 Acer download updates this year, all supposedly fixing something found wrong in the previous releases..
3.1 will have a host of bugs, and there'll be updates for it within 4 to 6 weeks of its release.. I've just said I'll be waiting for those updates, rather than bow down and praise the holy 3.1.
That's my opinion of the 3.1 release, you have no right to call it nonsense when it's based on the number of updates released to 3.0 this year.

Fluffbutt said:
And what makes you think, out of all the things Acer have done (for eg. ignore all requests for unlocked loaders, ignore emails (well, ignore the first 3-7 emails), they'll make 3.1 'better' than it is.
EVERY time there's been an update from Acer, there are a flood of posts here about something not working after the update - why do you think 3.1 will be any different?
And, to paraphrase you - initial reports are good, but only if you ignore something that's bad.. and you really think that's a logical statement?
1940 - 1945 were lovely years to be alive, if you ignore that silly war thing.
3.1 is very likely to be better than 3.0 - if only because they've managed to fix 3.0's bugs (like ANY update).
I just think it'll come with it's own slew of both new and old-unfixed bugs, and this forum will once again be filled with posts about xx not working, or yy force closes when it didn't before, etc.
Lets face it, there's been, what?, 3 or 5 Acer download updates this year, all supposedly fixing something found wrong in the previous releases..
3.1 will have a host of bugs, and there'll be updates for it within 4 to 6 weeks of its release.. I've just said I'll be waiting for those updates, rather than bow down and praise the holy 3.1.
That's my opinion of the 3.1 release, you have no right to call it nonsense when it's based on the number of updates released to 3.0 this year.
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I think you're thinking of the Asus TF...

lord_voldemort666 said:
I think you're thinking of the Asus TF...
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thats what i think too.. they person is wrong this time. as its no business of Acer, but actually done by another comany..
people just want someone to blame for something...

I think Fluffbutt is just arguing to argue. His arguments suck, and are all pretty much unfounded.
There's only been one update for 3.0 per region that I'm aware of.

Dexter_nlb said:
thats what i think too.. they person is wrong this time. as its no business of Acer, but actually done by another comany..
people just want someone to blame for something...
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You fanbois ARE kidding, right?
I've had my A500 for about a month now, maybe six weeks, and it's updated twice from original in just that time!
You lot REALLY do love your Acers don't you.. you can't stand ANY dissension or disagreement about how wonderful things are (you should be on their payroll for marketing!)

Fluffbutt said:
You lot REALLY do love your Acers don't you.. you can't stand ANY dissension or disagreement about how wonderful things are (you should be on their payroll for marketing!)
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you are in a developer forum, with all the custom roms for any model you can think of (almost).. so wtf would you care about what Acer can deliver of updates, if xda have the suppport required to get your tablet working..
we can only be so lucky that nvidia tegra2 is getting so popular and that platforms are almost 100% compatible.
i only ask acer to open the kernel source, so kernel developers can add the functionality missing.
but updates from acer? i dont need updates so often.. we need xda forums and more supporting the developer community..
if you can say "fanboy", you should associate that with nvida tegra2, and not the vendor here.. i chose Acer because of the hardware, not because of the company and its reputation.
Who wants a usb less tablet, if you get one with both sockets? (here i mean asus/motorola)

Android 3.2 coming!

ASUS just tweeted this:
@ASUS is testing Android 3.2 on the #EeePadTransformer now - we hope to have it released soon!
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http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376

Great news, thanks.

jhanford said:
ASUS just tweeted this:
http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
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Dan thats fast! But i like it alot

Now, we can speculate on what "soon" means...
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Man, third update since I got mine. My Samsung vibrant had only one in a year, and it wasnt OTA either.

Soon = next week?
Great news ! i hope they release the firmware for the drain issue.

Testing means finalized.
Finalized means leaks.
Leaks means bonertime.

Yeah, we can definitely speculate on this, but they've been rather good at keeping up. If you look honestly at the 3.1 rollout, we we're only a little behind vs. the Xoom release.
Not sure this will include any major hardware-level fixes as that's really not 3.2 related (firmware vs. OS).

good news. cant wait to see whats improved.
Question: (android and tablet noob here)
So google releases the updates to its developers/companies (like samsung, motorola, asus,etc) and then they(the manufacturers) decide as to when they release it to their consumers?
im assuming because they tweak it to fit their product and might add fixes to their own hardware

Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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jhanford said:
Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?

I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D

great news.. no surprise Xoom gets the update first since it's the so called google reference design but asus has been doing a great job..
we got the official 3.1 update nearly one month before the acer a500...let's hope asus can keep up the good work!

stdlyman3k said:
I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
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While that may be the case for minor version updates, ICS will be a major version change (4.0?). No-one can expect every current device to be supported for every future Android version. Even Apple doesn't do that for the iDevices (original iPhone only goes as far as iOS 3.1.3).
At some point, like it or not, ASUS will stop bringing new versions for the Transformer. It makes no sense from a business point of view to do otherwise.
So, my point being is that, while ICS will be out before year end, ASUS may decide to focus development efforts of the Kal-El-based tablet they've already said will replace the Transformer. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if they did release ICS for us, but given the Transformer's hardware differences from stock (or the Xoom reference), especially around the keyboard, even having the full ICS source might mean a slightly reduced functionality Transformer at best.
Hopefully ASUS sees ICS as close enough time-wise to be a good reason to support it on the Transformer which, after all, will still be less than a year old.

brando56894 said:
I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.

but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)

jhanford said:
I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
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You are right. But I think Asus wants to make a good impression. This is their first tablet, so if they ever want to sell a new one, they better provide updates, as this will decide the 'name' the company gets. Everyone knows Samsung as a company that doesn't provide many updates. And many people were worrying about updates, and often decided to buy a HTC smartphone, because they always provided updates. (But Samsung is definitely working on it, look at the SGS II for example.)
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....

dazz87 said:
Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not sure I agree with you there. 3.0 out of the box was sluggish and dissappointing. 3.1 pepped up the tablet no end.
Yes, there are issues with 3.1 too, but looking at how it fared on the Xoom (the Google reference device, no less!) and I think we've been lucky overall.
I'm hoping 3.2 will be the "Gold" edition of Honeycomb, if you will. Frankly, this is their (Google's) only chance as they've already stated there won't be a 3.3.
A thought just occured to me: Are we living through the Android equivalent of Windows Vista? Is ICS our Windows 7? 2.X certainly seems to have followed XP's history with the finally solid SP2/3 equivalents being 2.2 and 2.3! Bizarre

turbulent28 said:
but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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No offence, but you seem to contradict yourself. On the one hand you're saying ICS will be the starting point for new devices and then end for the older units (including Xoom and TF) and then you say we should expect it.
I really hope we DO get it, but I'm not holding ASUS to it. As others have said, it would make PR sense for ASUS TO release ICS on the Transformer, but that's 3-4 months away at best and their plans may be elsewhere by that time.
Let's just hope for the best! (Or hope some devs deem the TF to be worthy to port ICS if it isn't supported by ASUS)

Will the a500 be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich?

is a very good question.. any "official" word?

No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb

cordell507 said:
not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb
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I'll bet a nickel that "unofficially" there will be roms for our device for a couple years forward. Ice cream sandwich and beyond.

gmfeny said:
No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems

Bryan646 said:
The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems
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It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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there is one reason why ACER might not port ICS to the A500, the A500 is not a phone, the A501 is possibly more into getting updated to ICS.

From what I understand (read somewhere), is that according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
My bet is that we'll get it sometime early next year.

gmfeny said:
It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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But you're just speculating.

Google has already stated that ICS will be AOSP'ed, so worst case scenario we'll at least be able to get native 3rd party ROMs for our A500's as long as the developer community remains strong.

Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.

cm0901 said:
Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html

You had to be part of the Open Handset Alliance to get the source code for Honeycomb. Google wanted more control on this particular release to keep vendors from trying to use it on a regular phone.

From the "leaked" photos I'm not really impressed with the ice cream sandwich update. It might be nice on phones but I love honeycomb on tablets. Yes there could be some improvement but overall honeycomb is great.

ACER could get alot of good geek buzz, if they update to ICS and open the bootloader up.
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with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate

cm0901 said:
Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Ruh roh am I the troll?
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cordell507 said:
with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate
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I think you will be disappointed. ICS is supposed to re-unite the phone and tabs os into one.

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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
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Open Handset Alliance == Android Alliance?
Not sure of that, but I may be well wrong...

Euclid's Brother said:
according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
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Ah, but an update to an OS and a NEW OS version are two entirely different things. Updates are point releases and bug fixes. You confuse the two, methinks. I deal with a lot of business contracts and I think I can speak with a bit of confidence that there's no way Google would force vendors to do major updates. Besides, if they did that you would now have Honeycomb on some phones... Obviously they can't because you can't even guarantee the same hardware will run the next major release.
Euclid's Brother said:
If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
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Again I disagree - sure there might be some irritated people on these forums, but the average consumer is now buying this tablet from Wal Mart of all places. That means they ain't all geeks anymore and probably won't even know when ICS is released.
The real trick is to buy like the manufacturers intended. Buy a tablet that does what you want RIGHT NOW. If you can't do that, don't buy because there's absolutely no guarantee that it will do what you want later.
It's like buying a Ford hoping for a free update to Jaguar before your warranty expires. Okay so it's nothing like that. But it is.
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But you're just speculating.
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But isn't that the point?

What's your bet? Ice Cream Sandwich before or after X-mass for the Tab 10.1?

Technobuffalo has an article quoting Mr. Schmidt of Google saying ICS will be deployed around Oct/Nov. How long till the Tab sees it? Is there even a point if it is mostly going to be based off of honeycomb anyways?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...eam-sandwich-coming-in-oct-or-nov-it-appears/
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If it doesn't hit the market in any form until November, I think very few existing products will see ICS this year.
Some might, if only so their manufacturers can behave like twelve-year-olds on the internet and jump up and down shouting 'First!' but I think it will come in reasonable time.
Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
Is there even a point if it is mostly going to be based off of honeycomb anyways?
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I think you're maybe looking at it the wrong way.
It doesn't matter what it's based on, all that matters is that it's the next step forward to an all-round better OS for both phones and tablets.

From what I understand (which is little) the biggest difference we Tablet owners will see will be the availability of more apps (phone apps) scaled up. Along with facial recognition, ability to save web pages for offline viewing, UI changes and scalable widgets.
What great times for Android. One operating system for all and with Amazon offering 50 bucks to developers till November and changes to their appstore coming before their tablet this winter it seems like it is just nonstop good news for Android users.
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Amazon is going to be one hell of a unique fork, OS wise. It should run most regular Android applications, but forget about customizing the UI, and forget about things like application sideloading, Google Music Beta, Google Books, Nook, (or ePubs in general). It'll be locked down tight (bet it won't even have SD card support) and it'll be missing (to some) key features, like cameras and GPS.
Most worrisome of all, if it's a big success and they sell all 5 million they plan on producing this year, it'll FURTHER fragment the Android user base, as developers will need to make stuff for 1.6-2.3 phones/tablets, 3.x tablets, 4.x phones and tablets, and and Amazon's fork of 2.2.
Good news is, if the sales are strong, it'll pull more developers over to the world of Dalvik, and some of that should trickle down to "regular" phones and tablets.

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Amazon is going to be one hell of a unique fork, OS wise. It should run most regular Android applications, but forget about customizing the UI, and forget about things like application sideloading, Google Music Beta, Google Books, Nook, (or ePubs in general). It'll be locked down tight (bet it won't even have SD card support) and it'll be missing (to some) key features, like cameras and GPS.
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Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.

One way or another the Galaxy Tab will have ICS within a month of AOSP release. Maybe not a official Samsung release though!
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Samsung LOL, around Feb officially....

DT3CH said:
Samsung LOL, around Feb officially....
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A Samsung official update? Nooo more like June We may have a CM8 build by Feb, but this is assuming that Google doesn't sit on its hands over the AOSP release. It takes a while for the source to drop

I'm pretty sure when Google releases the source to ICS one of the talented devs on this forum will port an AOSP over to the Galaxy Tab, I don't see why they wouldn't.

x-ravin said:
A Samsung official update? Nooo more like June We may have a CM8 build by Feb, but this is assuming that Google doesn't sit on its hands over the AOSP release. It takes a while for the source to drop
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Ahh what I meant to say was Samsung will release it in Feb but then pull it after too many bugs...... then take till June like you said
Mmmmmm CM8 on this would be awesome, running a CM variant on my SGS

Step666 said:
Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.
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http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/amazon-kindle-tablet/

Step666 said:
Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.
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i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..

_delice_doluca_ said:
i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..
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What? Pershoot has a kernel for the 7500... And nobody can "let you down" unless they owe you something...

_delice_doluca_ said:
i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..
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There's no guarantee that ICS will offer any real improvement on the Tab, aside from maybe scaling older phone apps better (though 3.2 should fix that).

slack04 said:
What? Pershoot has a kernel for the 7500... And nobody can "let you down" unless they owe you something...
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sorry i havent seen it.. besides i wasnt trying to say they owe us those kernels.. really, i apretiate their work.. but i am sure you understand what i am trying to say..

I can't wait for ICS, but I'd be happy with any vanilla android right now. TouchWiz annoys the crap out of me.

[Q] Android 4.0 ROM for Acer a500

Heya
Have we gona get android 4.0 for acer a500 or not?
Thanks

It's suppose to be coming. First quarter or even this month.

You know any good Apps for Students.

I just installed Thor's ICS 4.0.3 Test#72 ROM (for Acer A500)...
Only few things NOT working (not worried about these few for now)
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Camera, Camcorder, HDMI sound, vpn, wifi ad-hoc, hardware rotation lock
Real smooth & Stable @1.60 Ghz (able to go 1.68 Ghz)
I'll know battery life, game tests soon.
Checking out ICS, getting exited (I've tried on 7 different HC 3.2+ ROM's last 2 weeks)
I love how plain it is, Very FEW Apps Running in background

cruise350 said:
It's suppose to be coming. First quarter or even this month.
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Would that be through the official acer ota channels to?
Or should we count on devs like Thor if we want a taste of ics?

Where I can get this ROM?

gersma said:
Would that be through the official acer ota channels to?
Or should we count on devs like Thor if we want a taste of ics?
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That's from Acer, hopefully our good developers will have it rooted and available soon after the OTA drops.

I sent an email to acer support and this was their answer:
Thank you for contacting Acer America. My name is Abin and Badge Number GWSI661. I'll be happy to assist you.
As per your mail, I understand that you would like to install ice cream sandwich.
I have verified the serial number and found that it is covered under standard limited warranty.
Mohamed, your system does not have an option to update ice cream sandwich.. This option only available on Smartphone and Iconia A200.
For further clarifications, please feel free to visit our web site.
Have a great day!
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I hope it's not true, but I will go ahead and get rid of my stock rom anyway.

ktmdave7 said:
Thor's ICS v4.0.3 Testing ROM's : URL removed.
CWM Recovery - Backup
Complete Wipe + Format (Data, Cache, Dalvik-Cache, flexrom)
Flash ROM + GAPPS
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You do NOT want to be posting that link in this forum!

mattalla said:
I sent an email to acer support and this was their answer:
As per your mail, I understand that you would like to install ice cream sandwich.
I have verified the serial number and found that it is covered under standard limited warranty.
Mohamed, your system does not have an option to update ice cream sandwich.. This option only available on Smartphone and Iconia A200.
I hope it's not true, but I will go ahead and get rid of my stock rom anyway.
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Officially it is true, so you will need a custom ROM for ICS on the a500/a501 as it stands today. I think I tried telling everyone that already, but just got flamed on the threads for saying it. But, that's not the point now.
Currently, let we only state what has been made public so nobody does the flaming again:
ACER has officially said that the only tablet that will be getting ICS currently sold with HC is their new a200/a700 models. ACER also stated they are scaling back the Engineering staff that currently works on the a100/a500 by 60-70%.
So read into it what you want. If you think this means 'currently' as of today doesn't mean that in the future they won't therefore this by no means closes the door on getting ICS via OTA then you can. You are free to believe what you would like.
TD

timmyDean said:
Officially it is true, so you will need a custom ROM for ICS on the a500/a501 as it stands today. I think I tried telling everyone that already, but just got flamed on the threads for saying it. But, that's not the point now.
Currently, let we only state what has been made public so nobody does the flaming again:
ACER has officially said that the only tablet that will be getting ICS currently sold with HC is their new a200/a700 models. ACER also stated they are scaling back the Engineering staff that currently works on the a100/a500 by 60-70%.
So read into it what you want. If you think this means 'currently' as of today doesn't mean that in the future they won't therefore this by no means closes the door on getting ICS via OTA then you can. You are free to believe what you would like.
TD
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Actually you got flamed for stating that the hardware in the A500 wouldn't support ICS, which is one of the most ludicrous things I've heard to date in this forum.

there is a web site for tegra cpu only, great!

Type acer a500 icecream sandwich into youtube search / videos within a week (jan 5th) & u will see the a500 rocking ICS!
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Not worried
If not A500 then another of its peers will get ICS - Transformer anyone? Porting will be a breeze as the hardware on all current tablets are essentially the same
It just the waiting sucks :-D

Compared to HTC who has decided that gingerbread couldn't been properly installed on his HTC Desire neither, I undesrtand the decision of Acer.
This is business. Acer creates new models because the firm is in competition with the other manufacturers and, in order to sell their tablets, they must propose some new things on their new models.
Why to buy the A200, knowing that its hardware is very close to the A500's one? ... Because it runs under ICS when the A500 doesn't.
Since months, we can find dozens of custom roms on XDA running Gingerbread fine on the Desire. Even ICS has been ported successfully on the Desire.
So, I guess that everybody who wants ICS on his a500 will get it too in the near future.

sir you are 1 big troll
timmyDean You will always be a noob....
The rumors and news items that were spread seemed to be a scam... Acer clearly stated in front of the world (cnn I bellieve) that they are NOT cutting down on their tablets. Acer made it really clear that they will do a lot to bring acers tablets to the top of the market.
Stepping out of the tablet market would also be a much bigger mistake since the new version of windows (code-named windows 8) will be targeting tablet devices.
To clarify your topics regarding ICS needing higher end devices is a ****load of crap. The first target in the ICS development was to make a Honeycomb update that would be completely compiled, faster and more lightweight.
it actualy needs much lower specs to run than Honeycomb....
next on our list is the official mail you will get from Acer as fast as you ask them "are you planning on releasing android 4.0 on our devices?". In an e-mail to me they actually said that they were currently in contact with Google to test the new android 4.0 system on Acer Iconia a500 tablets.
If you are planning on spreading more rumors regarding devices or whatever. add the sources where you actually got this information to it.
Otherwise get out from xda or any other forum for that matter and trow your tablet away if you are so unhappy with it.
My Iconia Tab is fantastic, and knowing that the new release won't add much new to android 2.3.1 I can life another few days without the pressing need to root the device and pirate android 4.0 to it.
please know that ICS is just a compiled (little bit faster) version of android with a few new functions (including an easy to hack face recognition system).
So Timmy: Stop Trolling or bring that behaviour to the forums and message boards that actually allow that.

amonfog said:
timmyDean You will always be a noob....
The rumors and news items that were spread seemed to be a scam... Acer clearly stated in front of the world (cnn I bellieve) that they are NOT cutting down on their tablets. Acer made it really clear that they will do a lot to bring acers tablets to the top of the market.
Stepping out of the tablet market would also be a much bigger mistake since the new version of windows (code-named windows 8) will be targeting tablet devices.
To clarify your topics regarding ICS needing higher end devices is a ****load of crap. The first target in the ICS development was to make a Honeycomb update that would be completely compiled, faster and more lightweight.
it actualy needs much lower specs to run than Honeycomb....
next on our list is the official mail you will get from Acer as fast as you ask them "are you planning on releasing android 4.0 on our devices?". In an e-mail to me they actually said that they were currently in contact with Google to test the new android 4.0 system on Acer Iconia a500 tablets.
If you are planning on spreading more rumors regarding devices or whatever. add the sources where you actually got this information to it.
Otherwise get out from xda or any other forum for that matter and trow your tablet away if you are so unhappy with it.
My Iconia Tab is fantastic, and knowing that the new release won't add much new to android 2.3.1 I can life another few days without the pressing need to root the device and pirate android 4.0 to it.
please know that ICS is just a compiled (little bit faster) version of android with a few new functions (including an easy to hack face recognition system).
So Timmy: Stop Trolling or bring that behaviour to the forums and message boards that actually allow that.
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For you to claim I do not know what I'm taking about is just wrong and I never said anything about ACER getting out of the tablet business. If you'd read, you see that I stated we cut support by half on all twlighted hardware which the a500 is part of. So, instead of listening to actual truth, based on actual information from ACER you can believe what you would like. Jan will soon be over and that will be proof enough for you that there is NO ICS under your OTA Christmas tree.
TD

timmyDean said:
Officially it is true, so you will need a custom ROM for ICS on the a500/a501 as it stands today. I think I tried telling everyone that already, but just got flamed on the threads for saying it. But, that's not the point now.
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You were flamed for good reason, not for saying "ICS is not available today", as everyone already knows that. Martyr much?
Currently, let we only state what has been made public so nobody does the flaming again:
ACER has officially said that the only tablet that will be getting ICS currently sold with HC is their new a200/a700 models. ACER also stated they are scaling back the Engineering staff that currently works on the a100/a500 by 60-70%.
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Please post a link to your source.
So read into it what you want. If you think this means 'currently' as of today doesn't mean that in the future they won't therefore this by no means closes the door on getting ICS via OTA then you can. You are free to believe what you would like.
TD
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Since when does "currently" not mean current? Of course I would believe ICS is not currently available on the A500, ifthat is what they said. It is believable because we don't have it now. To extrapolate that to mean it will never be available from Acer, is quite a leap. Samsung Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus are the only Samsung phones currently available with ICS, does that mean that there are no former or future Samsung phones that will have ICS? Use your head...

mattalla said:
I sent an email to acer support and this was their answer:
I hope it's not true, but I will go ahead and get rid of my stock rom anyway.
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timmyDean said:
Officially it is true, so you will need a custom ROM for ICS on the a500/a501 as it stands today. I think I tried telling everyone that already, but just got flamed on the threads for saying it. But, that's not the point now.
Currently, let we only state what has been made public so nobody does the flaming again:
ACER has officially said that the only tablet that will be getting ICS currently sold with HC is their new a200/a700 models. ACER also stated they are scaling back the Engineering staff that currently works on the a100/a500 by 60-70%.
So read into it what you want. If you think this means 'currently' as of today doesn't mean that in the future they won't therefore this by no means closes the door on getting ICS via OTA then you can. You are free to believe what you would like.
TD
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timmyDean said:
For you to claim I do not know what I'm taking about is just wrong and I never said anything about ACER getting out of the tablet business. If you'd read, you see that I stated we cut support by half on all twlighted hardware which the a500 is part of. So, instead of listening to actual truth, based on actual information from ACER you can believe what you would like. Jan will soon be over and that will be proof enough for you that there is NO ICS under your OTA Christmas tree.
TD
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432455
Found this in the a100 section. 3 different reps said we are getting the ics update. One even said we will get the update after the a200 comes out. Well its out. but to me its looking very good. Cant wait!