ASUS just tweeted this:
@ASUS is testing Android 3.2 on the #EeePadTransformer now - we hope to have it released soon!
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http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
Great news, thanks.
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ASUS just tweeted this:
http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
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Dan thats fast! But i like it alot
Now, we can speculate on what "soon" means...
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Man, third update since I got mine. My Samsung vibrant had only one in a year, and it wasnt OTA either.
Soon = next week?
Great news ! i hope they release the firmware for the drain issue.
Testing means finalized.
Finalized means leaks.
Leaks means bonertime.
Yeah, we can definitely speculate on this, but they've been rather good at keeping up. If you look honestly at the 3.1 rollout, we we're only a little behind vs. the Xoom release.
Not sure this will include any major hardware-level fixes as that's really not 3.2 related (firmware vs. OS).
good news. cant wait to see whats improved.
Question: (android and tablet noob here)
So google releases the updates to its developers/companies (like samsung, motorola, asus,etc) and then they(the manufacturers) decide as to when they release it to their consumers?
im assuming because they tweak it to fit their product and might add fixes to their own hardware
Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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jhanford said:
Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
great news.. no surprise Xoom gets the update first since it's the so called google reference design but asus has been doing a great job..
we got the official 3.1 update nearly one month before the acer a500...let's hope asus can keep up the good work!
stdlyman3k said:
I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
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While that may be the case for minor version updates, ICS will be a major version change (4.0?). No-one can expect every current device to be supported for every future Android version. Even Apple doesn't do that for the iDevices (original iPhone only goes as far as iOS 3.1.3).
At some point, like it or not, ASUS will stop bringing new versions for the Transformer. It makes no sense from a business point of view to do otherwise.
So, my point being is that, while ICS will be out before year end, ASUS may decide to focus development efforts of the Kal-El-based tablet they've already said will replace the Transformer. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if they did release ICS for us, but given the Transformer's hardware differences from stock (or the Xoom reference), especially around the keyboard, even having the full ICS source might mean a slightly reduced functionality Transformer at best.
Hopefully ASUS sees ICS as close enough time-wise to be a good reason to support it on the Transformer which, after all, will still be less than a year old.
brando56894 said:
I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
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You are right. But I think Asus wants to make a good impression. This is their first tablet, so if they ever want to sell a new one, they better provide updates, as this will decide the 'name' the company gets. Everyone knows Samsung as a company that doesn't provide many updates. And many people were worrying about updates, and often decided to buy a HTC smartphone, because they always provided updates. (But Samsung is definitely working on it, look at the SGS II for example.)
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not sure I agree with you there. 3.0 out of the box was sluggish and dissappointing. 3.1 pepped up the tablet no end.
Yes, there are issues with 3.1 too, but looking at how it fared on the Xoom (the Google reference device, no less!) and I think we've been lucky overall.
I'm hoping 3.2 will be the "Gold" edition of Honeycomb, if you will. Frankly, this is their (Google's) only chance as they've already stated there won't be a 3.3.
A thought just occured to me: Are we living through the Android equivalent of Windows Vista? Is ICS our Windows 7? 2.X certainly seems to have followed XP's history with the finally solid SP2/3 equivalents being 2.2 and 2.3! Bizarre
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but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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No offence, but you seem to contradict yourself. On the one hand you're saying ICS will be the starting point for new devices and then end for the older units (including Xoom and TF) and then you say we should expect it.
I really hope we DO get it, but I'm not holding ASUS to it. As others have said, it would make PR sense for ASUS TO release ICS on the Transformer, but that's 3-4 months away at best and their plans may be elsewhere by that time.
Let's just hope for the best! (Or hope some devs deem the TF to be worthy to port ICS if it isn't supported by ASUS)
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is a very good question.. any "official" word?
No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb
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not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb
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I'll bet a nickel that "unofficially" there will be roms for our device for a couple years forward. Ice cream sandwich and beyond.
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No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems
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The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems
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It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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there is one reason why ACER might not port ICS to the A500, the A500 is not a phone, the A501 is possibly more into getting updated to ICS.
From what I understand (read somewhere), is that according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
My bet is that we'll get it sometime early next year.
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It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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But you're just speculating.
Google has already stated that ICS will be AOSP'ed, so worst case scenario we'll at least be able to get native 3rd party ROMs for our A500's as long as the developer community remains strong.
Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
You had to be part of the Open Handset Alliance to get the source code for Honeycomb. Google wanted more control on this particular release to keep vendors from trying to use it on a regular phone.
From the "leaked" photos I'm not really impressed with the ice cream sandwich update. It might be nice on phones but I love honeycomb on tablets. Yes there could be some improvement but overall honeycomb is great.
ACER could get alot of good geek buzz, if they update to ICS and open the bootloader up.
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with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate
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Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Ruh roh am I the troll?
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cordell507 said:
with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate
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I think you will be disappointed. ICS is supposed to re-unite the phone and tabs os into one.
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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
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Open Handset Alliance == Android Alliance?
Not sure of that, but I may be well wrong...
Euclid's Brother said:
according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
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Ah, but an update to an OS and a NEW OS version are two entirely different things. Updates are point releases and bug fixes. You confuse the two, methinks. I deal with a lot of business contracts and I think I can speak with a bit of confidence that there's no way Google would force vendors to do major updates. Besides, if they did that you would now have Honeycomb on some phones... Obviously they can't because you can't even guarantee the same hardware will run the next major release.
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If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
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Again I disagree - sure there might be some irritated people on these forums, but the average consumer is now buying this tablet from Wal Mart of all places. That means they ain't all geeks anymore and probably won't even know when ICS is released.
The real trick is to buy like the manufacturers intended. Buy a tablet that does what you want RIGHT NOW. If you can't do that, don't buy because there's absolutely no guarantee that it will do what you want later.
It's like buying a Ford hoping for a free update to Jaguar before your warranty expires. Okay so it's nothing like that. But it is.
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But you're just speculating.
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But isn't that the point?
Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
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I doubt there will be any hardware limitations, atleast I'm not aware of any. I'm quite sure there will be some cheap Tegra2 devices with Icecream Sandwich soon after it's released.
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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Acer sucks, I wouldn't hold my breath. It's likely that we'll need a custom ROM for A500.
google released a statement saying there were no new hardware limitations, so we should be compatible.
Well ics is going to open source all the other good tablets are tegra 2 so i couldn't imagine something getting cooked up a week or so after source drops
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Well I'll keep my fingers crossed then. 4.0 sounds really promising
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Acer sucks, I wouldn't hold my breath. It's likely that we'll need a custom ROM for A500.
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Didn't know Acer did so bad in supporting their hardware. They did provide updates to 3.1 and 3.2 right?
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Well I'll keep my fingers crossed then. 4.0 sounds really promising
Didn't know Acer did so bad in supporting their hardware. They did provide updates to 3.1 and 3.2 right?
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Yup. Just a little behind schedule - and without great communication.
This is typical Acer. Lucky part is - as Android users we can choose to not rely on the hardware devs and run custom roms.
ICS should definitly be able to be placed on the A500. All Android tablets now pretty much have the same hardware, the Tegra 2 chipset. If no ICS for the A500, I would assume no ICS for any Tegra 2 device. Which I believe 100% will not be the case.
And hopefully when ICS releases, they will release the source code so we can have AOSP ROMS. Then it wont matter whether Acer releases an official ROM because devs can build from AOSP and throw in the necessary code for the specific hardware of the A500.
Finally got the A500
I have been reading this user group comments for weeks now to gain as much info about the A500 as possible and after reading comments both good and bad, I decided to go out and buy.
I really love this device. It is better than I anticipated. It came with 3.01, however Acer upgraded the firmware over the weekend first to 3.1 and then to 3.2, so I am very impressed, (after having Samsung devices for 18 months and receiving no updates at all, still on 2.2).
I am very glad this U.G. exists as many of my questions have already come to the fore, thanks for that. The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
There has been talk about Ice Cream Sandwich running on the A500, does anyone know what is different about android 4.0 compared to 3.2?
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I have been reading this user group comments for weeks now to gain as much info about the A500 as possible and after reading comments both good and bad, I decided to go out and buy.
I really love this device. It is better than I anticipated. It came with 3.01, however Acer upgraded the firmware over the weekend first to 3.1 and then to 3.2, so I am very impressed, (after having Samsung devices for 18 months and receiving no updates at all, still on 2.2).
I am very glad this U.G. exists as many of my questions have already come to the fore, thanks for that. The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
There has been talk about Ice Cream Sandwich running on the A500, does anyone know what is different about android 4.0 compared to 3.2?
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My girlfriend makes the same threats Just Google 'Ice Cream Sandwich features' for some more info. They haven't released a whole lot of info yet, but in a nutshell it will be a a uniform operating system that will run on phones and tablets instead of 2 different OS. Some cool new features have been discussed, but I have a feeling there's a lot we won't find out about until it gets released (October/November last I heard).
It is officialy stated that tegra 2 devices wil be given ICS update.
http://acer-a500.ru/news/880-planshety-na-baze-tegra-2-poluchat-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich.html
Main advantage - 1 OS for all devices! Easier for app devs, easier for Google
This article is based on Eric Schmidt's statement.
rosse912003 said:
The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
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tgtoys said:
My girlfriend makes the same threats
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You both have boring girlfriends tbh! Fiddling with electronics, gadgets and games is fun, and it's even more fun together :3
But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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You're so very very bad!
I like it!
WereCatf said:
You both have boring girlfriends tbh! Fiddling with electronics, gadgets and games is fun, and it's even more fun together :3
But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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Yea, I got myself an A100 and gave her my A500(bought her a logitech bluetooth keyboard to go with it). So I get the smaller lighter "nimbler" device. She got the bigger thicker device so she gets a stronger grip.
All kidding aside, tablets do make excellent platforms for watching porn with your partner. It even has dual cameras in case you want to make your own too.
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Yea, I got myself an A100 and gave her my A500(bought her a logitech bluetooth keyboard to go with it). So I get the smaller lighter "nimbler" device. She got the bigger thicker device so she gets a stronger grip.
All kidding aside, tablets do make excellent platforms for watching porn with your partner. It even has dual cameras in case you want to make your own too.
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ok??? Thanks for the marital guidence guys... I think??
Roll on Ice Cream Sandwich or... is that something kinky??
rosse912003 said:
ok??? Thanks for the marital guidence guys... I think??
Roll on Ice Cream Sandwich or... is that something kinky??
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I was taking their kidding and making a real comment that the 7" form factor tablet is a good blend for an aid to lovemaking, yes. While I joked with them, I meant my statement to have no innuendo and intended it to be just my obesrvation.
Certainly wasn't trying to offend and apologize if it came across the wrong way.
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Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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I consider everything rumor and speculation until it actually happens, even when it comes from companies themselves. But to date, we've been told that ICS is a merging of the phone and tablet OS. That in and of itself should allow us the luxury of surmising that this OS should work on all if not most devices currently running Gingerbread and Honeycomb at the very least.
It will be of course up to manufacturers to take the time to port it to their past devices, something not very many companies are ever willing to do since it doesn't really add any physical value (for them) to the product but I would think the current tablet providers would essentially get the update to their products as quickly as they can considering 1. they don't have a multitude of variants on the market and 2. they still have lots on store shelves etc. so it would indeed add physical value to their product - unlike for example, expecting HTC to update their Mytouch 4G or Samsung to update their Galaxy I US carrier line which have been on the market for almost a year.
Don't believe any rumors you hear and remember to take everything right now as speculation and with a grain of salt. Acer could very well today say they will update and a month or 2 after it's out tell us it won't/can't be done. Such is the way of tech.
I think it will come to the A500. Maybe not as quickly as it does to the Tab 10.1 or Transformer, but not too long afterwards. Acer has proven themselves to at the very least be consistent with their updates if albeit slow (for some), and so I'll take my positives where I can. I'm fine with slow and steady.
Erica wants icecream now.give this woman what she needs.icecream with sprinkles.taste a rainbow.
All seroious thou if we gwt it will come from dev or very late.booohooo
I've just received notification for update 4.031.26 for A501
I'm in Australia
muqali said:
I was taking their kidding and making a real comment that the 7" form factor tablet is a good blend for an aid to lovemaking, yes. While I joked with them, I meant my statement to have no innuendo and intended it to be just my obesrvation.
Certainly wasn't trying to offend and apologize if it came across the wrong way.
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No worries mate, just being a little light hearted. You're sharing from your heart, just like it should be. By the way, do you play mkv files? If so, what player do you use?
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I've just received notification for update 4.031.26 for A501
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From what previous version ?
I reaaly hope we will be first again for honeycomb updates.
We will get it. How fast depends on model. The wifi will be the first to have it most likely with the 4g version getting 4 to 6 weeks later after Verizon gives it the OK. How long the delay between announcement and push is up to Motorola and how long they have been working with it. If past performance is any indicator then at least two other tablets will have it before we do.
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Let me just consult my magic 8 ball...
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I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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The source code WILL be made available. Rubin said so in the past, when pointed out that HC sources were MIA, and he explained the reason for it, saying at the same time that Android sources will be again public once they reunify the 2.x and 3.x platforms into a cleaner, multi-devices software base.
Keep in mind that it's not just the OS based on the open source code that makes the tablet. Look at all those cheap Android 2.1/2.2 tablets - one of the things they often lack is access to the Android Market (in addition to using resistive screens, low performance SoCs, etc...). I suspect that you have to pay a license to Google to be allowed to bundle Google apps such as the official Android Market (someone might confirm this for me). This is where a major player like Samsung or Asus will distinguish itself from your average inexpensive Chinese-made tablet.
So, no reason at all for Google to refuse to distribute the code. Don't forget that the fact it's open-sourced is one of the main reasons behind its popularity.
So in the end, I'm fairly confident the Xoom will get ICS. If not from Morotola, then through unofficial builds from the public repository, like Cyanogen does for phones under 2.x.
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anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Same day brah
Motorola Xoom to be first Ice Cream Sandwich tablet? http://goo.gl/611fi Shared with APPY Geek (http://www.appy-geek.com
hopefully this rumor is true
Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high. Which tablets got 3.1 first? Which received 3.2 first? There's your answer.
Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
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Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
Revolting Revolution. Tapatalk.
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You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
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>Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high.
The Xoom isn't an official reference device, and it isn't a refdev for ICS. My guess is that ICS update will come from your friendly custom ROM sooner than from Moto-Goog, as else the new FamilyEd Xoom will need to be updated as well, which probably won't happen any time soon given its new low-end status. Prioritizing and differentiation will mean the focus of development will be on the Xoom2 toys. That's how it has always worked.
The good news is that with ICS hitting AOS, custom ROMs will get better, sooner. In tandem with the above, there'll be more reasons for you to go offroad with ICS, if you haven't already.
>You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
If reports are true, LTE mod will eat up more juice and reduce operating hours.
I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.
iammodo said:
I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.
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It has been this way for the US Xoom. Until now, Google has been the one who has pushed updates for US Xoom, so there is hope we will get ICS at some point, but i don't believe it's going to happen today. The reference SoC for ICS is TI OMAP, so it doesn't look good for our Tegra powered Xooms.
>I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Apple isn't that different. Old toys don't get the new-fangled Siri thingie.
The 2nd-gen of Android tabs (mostly OMAP4) are only marginally better than the Teg2 hardware wise. ICS will be the big selling point. Differentiation means you don't let old toys have the same functions as the new, as that defeats the purpose of selling new toys.
Speaking of new toys, I like the MotoACTV. The first wearable (and likely hackable) Android device. It would be neat if one can shoehorn a full-fledged Android distro in there. Display is tiny, probably 320x240, but good enough for niche uses. Pricing is outrageous, but it'll drop soon enough.
no release date for ics....just for the nexus on november
they did release the SDK today tho !!!! gonna play with it now
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I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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actually the Source Code is already on AOSP's website for developers.
pardon my ignorance but sdk is good for making roms or just to make apps for it...or just to release hacks for other platforms like 3.2.2 ,etc. i just know its good lol but dont know what good it can be.
With the Galaxy Nexus not being released until sometime in November I think we may be waiting until December for an official release. Hope the devs can pull a rabbit out of a hat.
SDK could bring us a release but hardware acceleration is unlikely until we see the official release.
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As i have been reading on asus.com, our transformer can already update to 4.0 ics?!
You might want to check treir speccs of our transformer:
Android 3.2 Honeycomb O.S.(4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich upgradable) with Adobe® Flash® 10.2 support
So, who the hell can already update his device?? Well, i cant :-(
Link: http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#download
Asus made a comment that by the end of the year the transformer would get an update to ics...I think that they are just telling you when available you will get ics
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It says "upgradeable" on the item description, if you check the download section Honeycomb 3.2.1 as below is available.
V8.6.5.13 Only for US SKU (Android 3.2.1)
It's available for multiple SKU, not just US.
It's dated 19 October 2011 so it's quite recent. When they'll have ICS up only they know for sure.
miHah said:
As i have been reading on asus.com, our transformer can already update to 4.0 ics?!
You might want to check treir speccs of our transformer:
Android 3.2 Honeycomb O.S.(4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich upgradable) with Adobe® Flash® 10.2 support
So, who the hell can already update his device?? Well, i cant :-(
Link: http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#download
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Yes it has the capability to upgrade to ICS when it is available. That doesn't mean today.
Sales pitch, like the Xoom was upgradable from 3g to LTE.
Android 3.2 Honeycomb O.S.(4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich upgradable) with Adobe® Flash® 10.2 support*2
read carefully
Upgradable does not always means u can upgrade now, it means aslo it is able to be upgraded to 4.0
thats the point, case closed, (and if it says upgradeable its only for testers)
I'll be honest and say that the Asus Transformer was not something that appealed to me but with the announced specs of the Transformer 2, it has really got me excited. One thing that is really important is the update support from Asus. From what I can gather, it seems like Asus are pretty on the ball with releasing timely updates for the Transformer? Is this really true? The fact that it seems like ICS will be released on the original Transformer is a great confidence booster.
Comments/Suggestions all welcome.
Techno79 said:
I'll be honest and say that the Asus Transformer was not something that appealed to me but with the announced specs of the Transformer 2, it has really got me excited. One thing that is really important is the update support from Asus. From what I can gather, it seems like Asus are pretty on the ball with releasing timely updates for the Transformer? Is this really true? The fact that it seems like ICS will be released on the original Transformer is a great confidence booster.
Comments/Suggestions all welcome.
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ASUS has been the best, bar none, at updating their Android tablet. Samsung still hasn't updated the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to 3.2, for example, although they've announced that ICS will be coming to it someday. This is just one reason why I've become a huge ASUS fan since buying my Transformer.
News : ASUS Transformer Prime could go on sale with Honeycomb next week, Android 4.0 to follow
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wynand32 said:
ASUS has been the best, bar none, at updating their Android tablet. Samsung still hasn't updated the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to 3.2, for example, although they've announced that ICS will be coming to it someday. This is just one reason why I've become a huge ASUS fan since buying my Transformer.
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That's very encouraging. However, I'm not a massive early adopter so I'll probably wait for some decent reviews and for Asus to release ICS update before I take the plunge. I really want a tablet that can run Android buttery smooth and really think the TF2 is the one.
Please, less threads on the ICS update...
tekkitan said:
Please, less threads on the ICS update...
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It's not the thread about Asus Transformer, ICS and update? It is!!
So why are you post this?
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Techno79 said:
That's very encouraging. However, I'm not a massive early adopter so I'll probably wait for some decent reviews and for Asus to release ICS update before I take the plunge. I really want a tablet that can run Android buttery smooth and really think the TF2 is the one.
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It already runs buttery smoothe. Much better than anything else I've used with android. If you want to save money I would get the first one. If money isn't an issue I would definitely wait and grab the Prime. The other tablets are jokes compared to these.
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It already runs buttery smoothe. Much better than anything else I've used with android. If you want to save money I would get the first one. If money isn't an issue I would definitely wait and grab the Prime. The other tablets are jokes compared to these.
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Well that is certainly reassuring. I was thinking of getting the TF101 (people told me to wait for the Prime, but I thought the hardware on the TF101 is fine). As long as the TF101 runs ICS without a hick I'll be happy. ICS is designed for dual core processors, right?
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It already runs buttery smoothe. Much better than anything else I've used with android. If you want to save money I would get the first one. If money isn't an issue I would definitely wait and grab the Prime. The other tablets are jokes compared to these.
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Price is not my primary concern but video play back is as that is what I will be mainly using it for. The tegra2 chips are all really poor for video decoding which is why I haven't invested in a tablet yet. The Asus prime and Toshiba excite are the only tablets that I know (coming out before xmas) that have a better chip than the tegra2 for video decoding. Both are really sexy and seem worth spending the extra on over current cheaper tablets. I guess I'll find out for sure when tjd tablets are properly released and reviews start trickling down.
As far as dual core goes I'm unsure what ics is doing. All I know is honeycomb runs great so if ics runs better I'll be stoked.
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It's not the thread about Asus Transformer, ICS and update? It is!!
So why are you post this?
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i thought prime should be released with ICS
I agree! Too many ICS update and ICS Port(s) threads! I work in Western Australia's mining boom so I'm cash rich but time poor (for how long, is a crash coming?). I seem to spend hours reading these threads, enjoyable though they are,
What I need is either a way for the XDA system or a human being to alert me when a "mostly" working port (ICS Port release candidate?) or Upgrade (for field testing) is available. I have 5 Android devices atm so if a beta release has problems on one of them, I'll still be able to stay in contact with the developers any of the others.
Maybe a technical report whenever there's real progress for which I would pay, specially if it gets written up in somewhere like India where English skills are high, and the exchange rate is good (about 50 Rupees to the dollar atm!)
Find a few more customers like me, live in a place with low cost of living, and you've got yourself a viable business, it would seem.
Hint I have receive pm set up for xda.
I'm gonna wait to upgrade until I see how the new Samsung is with it's high res display tablet next year. Also what iPad 3 will be like.
OK, that's it. I am officially sick of hearing about Ice Cream Sandwich.
Or, more to the point, I am sick of not hearing about it, and seeing the same thing posted over and over again and old threads being bumped for no good reason.
Acer ANZ have given a release date for ICS for the A500 on their facebook fan page, and as usual for acer their promises of an april release have turned into more lies, their release date in answer to a question on their page is May 17.
Doesn't matter really, they haven't said no. There's plenty of aftermarket versions that work fine anyway.
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Alienwithin said:
Acer ANZ have given a release date for ICS for the A500 on their facebook fan page, and as usual for acer their promises of an april release have turned into more lies, their release date in answer to a question on their page is May 17.
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Yes! End the lies! MAKE them release the OTA update in April. Whether it's finished or not. Whether it's full of bugs or not. Getting it soon is far more important than getting it right!
...or maybe not
Alienwithin said:
Acer ANZ have given a release date for ICS for the A500 on their facebook fan page, and as usual for acer their promises of an april release have turned into more lies, their release date in answer to a question on their page is May 17.
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The problem people have with dates is that they only look at the date and not the rest of what is said.
The Acer webpage says the date for the A500 update is TBA Mid April.
TBA means To Be Announced mid April.
Seems to me that since it is early April and not mid April, they are ahead of schedule.
But they are guilty of being late in the past.
Still, do not go by Facebook. It is not reliable for Acer announcements.
Acer ANZ is Datacom Manila, a closed group of 64.
Does not sound like an official Acer site to me.
Oh yea, here is the Acer webpage.
http://acer.custhelp.com/app/answer...sion/L3RpbWUvMTMzMjg5Njg5MC9zaWQvUThEdkJhVWs=
This will be my last Acer product until their management changes their priorities.
So far I've been deeply disappointed by the timeliness of their updates. Moto and Asus have already pushed ICS to their hardware and the Asus tabs has vastly superior hardware compared to Acer offerings.
I guess Acer is just not very attuned to their customers' needs and that's disheartening as an owner.
I second this. I listed mine on craigs list today.
panda.bear said:
This will be my last Acer product until their management changes their priorities.
So far I've been deeply disappointed by the timeliness of their updates. Moto and Asus have already pushed ICS to their hardware and the Asus tabs has vastly superior hardware compared to Acer offerings.
I guess Acer is just not very attuned to their customers' needs and that's disheartening as an owner.
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Me too I'm also fed up with Google too and their vague update cycles I mean the nexus s just got the official update last weekend.
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panda.bear said:
This will be my last Acer product until their management changes their priorities.
So far I've been deeply disappointed by the timeliness of their updates. Moto and Asus have already pushed ICS to their hardware and the Asus tabs has vastly superior hardware compared to Acer offerings.
I guess Acer is just not very attuned to their customers' needs and that's disheartening as an owner.
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Let's see, I bought my A500 in August and it was loaded with 3.0. I quickly got the update to 3.1 and fairly soon received 3.2. What do you want, 5 major OS versions in a years time? Seriously, people... relax. Even if you have to only wait 2 more weeks, you're selling your tablet? I'm calling shenanigans.
Learn patience. A good, bug-free update, especially one with this many changes, is worth the wait. And if you're THAT impatient, root the darned thing and load one of the many ICS versions that many developers have to offer.
/end rant, but not before a general facepalm
panda.bear said:
This will be my last Acer product until their management changes their priorities.
So far I've been deeply disappointed by the timeliness of their updates. Moto and Asus have already pushed ICS to their hardware and the Asus tabs has vastly superior hardware compared to Acer offerings.
I guess Acer is just not very attuned to their customers' needs and that's disheartening as an owner.
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Can we chill a little bit? 3% of android devices are on ICS. Thats it. It's not like we're the last ones waiting for an update.....
If you will be watching the frequency and the increasing quality of the ICS leaks in the Dev section, you can expect the official ics update soon. And if you don't want to wait just install one of the marvelous ics custom roms. The improvement over hc is huge! !
With best regards, maris
sRDennyCrane said:
Let's see, I bought my A500 in August and it was loaded with 3.0. I quickly got the update to 3.1 and fairly soon received 3.2. What do you want, 5 major OS versions in a years time? Seriously, people... relax. Even if you have to only wait 2 more weeks, you're selling your tablet? I'm calling shenanigans.
Learn patience. A good, bug-free update, especially one with this many changes, is worth the wait. And if you're THAT impatient, root the darned thing and load one of the many ICS versions that many developers have to offer.
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THIS! Have some patience, people!
Come on acer .. when are you updating me to Jelly bean.. I WANT IT NEED IT AND DEMAND IT NOW.... You know you have it ready for our A500 . who cares if google is still developing it..
Two weeks after you get ICS Official update on your tablet look back and think about what i can do now with my tablet that i could not do on honeycomb. I DO As well want official release. I SCREAMED at acer for months for a DATE.
Chill and see if they come thru. IF Not then just use your buying dollars next time pick another brand.. ASUS SAMSUNG MOTOROLA AND So on. how many have ics and when did they get it.
erica_renee said:
Come on acer .. when are you updating me to Jelly bean.. I WANT IT NEED IT AND DEMAND IT NOW.... You know you have it ready for our A500 . who cares if google is still developing it..
Two weeks after you get ICS Official update on your tablet look back and think about what i can do now with my tablet that i could not do on honeycomb. I DO As well want official release. I SCREAMED at acer for months for a DATE.
Chill and see if they come thru. IF Not then just use your buying dollars next time pick another brand.. ASUS SAMSUNG MOTOROLA AND So on. how many have ics and when did they get it.
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i honestly wouldnt go for motorola, their phones are locked down and as far as i understand the droid x2 (which is still in its 18 month update period) isnt seeing ICS so like acer they go back on their commitments as well
also, motorola promised that theyd release an unlock tool late 2011 and its april 2012 and there hasnt been anything released
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ztotherad said:
i honestly wouldnt go for motorola, their phones are locked down and as far as i understand the droid x2 (which is still in its 18 month update period) isnt seeing ICS so like acer they go back on their commitments as well
also, motorola promised that theyd release an unlock tool late 2011 and its april 2012 and there hasnt been anything released
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I totally agree. but i was just making note that there are other options. If a company sets itself apart from the others in a way they Support what customers want. Right now that company could Take many customers from the pack. People are sick of devices becoming obsolete and disposable in a year or less. And locked down tighter then FT KNOX. (i live about 10 minutes from there) I can tell its very secure.
As far as locked bootloaders, the vast majority of phone users don't even know of the possibility of modding... let alone have any desire to do it. The same goes for updates. People on sites like this represent the small minority of users. The typical tablet or phone user wakes up one day, looks at their device, sees a box saying there's an update, presses OK and goes on with their lives.
They bought their device based upon the user experience, not some vague hope that some major change will happen... sometime... soon.
Hello everybody, this is my forst post, so be comprehensive...
If someone wants an Acer ICS build there is the latest "leak 1.031" on the Developer section which is very easy to install - download the zip file, rename it to "Update.zip", put it on your extSD and reboot while holding "power" + "vol-".
I never did any mods to my A500 since I bought it, never rooted or so, but lately it was starting to freeze and force close quite a lot so I updated it manually and am very satisfied - running very smooth, web browsing is much faster (using ICS browser+) and everything seems to work perfectly! I'm just saying that it's a very simple way to get stable ICS without doing any complicated things (CWM, root, kernel mods, etc...)
Cheers!
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Hello everybody, this is my forst post, so be comprehensive...
If someone wants an Acer ICS build there is the latest "leak 1.031" on the Developer section which is very easy to install - download the zip file, rename it to "Update.zip", put it on your extSD and reboot while holding "power" + "vol-".
I never did any mods to my A500 since I bought it, never rooted or so, but lately it was starting to freeze and force close quite a lot so I updated it manually and am very satisfied - running very smooth, web browsing is much faster (using ICS browser+) and everything seems to work perfectly! I'm just saying that it's a very simple way to get stable ICS without doing any complicated things (CWM, root, kernel mods, etc...)
Cheers!
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This. A doddle even for me.
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Come on acer .. when are you updating me to Jelly bean.. I WANT IT NEED IT AND DEMAND IT NOW.... You know you have it ready for our A500 . who cares if google is still developing it..
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sheik_yerbouti said:
THIS! Have some patience, people!
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While we wait, I have to wonder if the general number of us were polled as to WHY we want ICS, what the reasons would be? I'd like to have it, but honestly I don't know of any compelling reason aside from the fact that it is something new.
I'll bet once we get it not much time will pass before we are Jonesing for Jelly Bean for the same silly reason.
I'm running Thor's HC ROM on mine, and very happy with that. It runs well and everything works. What more could I realistically ask for? What's ICS supposed to bring us, anyway?
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Well ice cream will bring us something to put our jellybeans in. sheesh everyone knows you can't have jellybeans without ice cream first.
I will not scream for jelly bean if I get my ics. I will ask politely in a demanding way.
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Well ice cream will bring us something to put our jellybeans in. sheesh everyone knows you can't have jellybeans without ice cream first.
I will not scream for jelly bean if I get my ics. I will ask politely in a demanding way.
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OK, as long as you're not too aggressive. ( - I couldn't resist.)