I reaaly hope we will be first again for honeycomb updates.
We will get it. How fast depends on model. The wifi will be the first to have it most likely with the 4g version getting 4 to 6 weeks later after Verizon gives it the OK. How long the delay between announcement and push is up to Motorola and how long they have been working with it. If past performance is any indicator then at least two other tablets will have it before we do.
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Let me just consult my magic 8 ball...
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I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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The source code WILL be made available. Rubin said so in the past, when pointed out that HC sources were MIA, and he explained the reason for it, saying at the same time that Android sources will be again public once they reunify the 2.x and 3.x platforms into a cleaner, multi-devices software base.
Keep in mind that it's not just the OS based on the open source code that makes the tablet. Look at all those cheap Android 2.1/2.2 tablets - one of the things they often lack is access to the Android Market (in addition to using resistive screens, low performance SoCs, etc...). I suspect that you have to pay a license to Google to be allowed to bundle Google apps such as the official Android Market (someone might confirm this for me). This is where a major player like Samsung or Asus will distinguish itself from your average inexpensive Chinese-made tablet.
So, no reason at all for Google to refuse to distribute the code. Don't forget that the fact it's open-sourced is one of the main reasons behind its popularity.
So in the end, I'm fairly confident the Xoom will get ICS. If not from Morotola, then through unofficial builds from the public repository, like Cyanogen does for phones under 2.x.
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anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Same day brah
Motorola Xoom to be first Ice Cream Sandwich tablet? http://goo.gl/611fi Shared with APPY Geek (http://www.appy-geek.com
hopefully this rumor is true
Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high. Which tablets got 3.1 first? Which received 3.2 first? There's your answer.
Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
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Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
Revolting Revolution. Tapatalk.
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You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
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>Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high.
The Xoom isn't an official reference device, and it isn't a refdev for ICS. My guess is that ICS update will come from your friendly custom ROM sooner than from Moto-Goog, as else the new FamilyEd Xoom will need to be updated as well, which probably won't happen any time soon given its new low-end status. Prioritizing and differentiation will mean the focus of development will be on the Xoom2 toys. That's how it has always worked.
The good news is that with ICS hitting AOS, custom ROMs will get better, sooner. In tandem with the above, there'll be more reasons for you to go offroad with ICS, if you haven't already.
>You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
If reports are true, LTE mod will eat up more juice and reduce operating hours.
I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.
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I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.
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It has been this way for the US Xoom. Until now, Google has been the one who has pushed updates for US Xoom, so there is hope we will get ICS at some point, but i don't believe it's going to happen today. The reference SoC for ICS is TI OMAP, so it doesn't look good for our Tegra powered Xooms.
>I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Apple isn't that different. Old toys don't get the new-fangled Siri thingie.
The 2nd-gen of Android tabs (mostly OMAP4) are only marginally better than the Teg2 hardware wise. ICS will be the big selling point. Differentiation means you don't let old toys have the same functions as the new, as that defeats the purpose of selling new toys.
Speaking of new toys, I like the MotoACTV. The first wearable (and likely hackable) Android device. It would be neat if one can shoehorn a full-fledged Android distro in there. Display is tiny, probably 320x240, but good enough for niche uses. Pricing is outrageous, but it'll drop soon enough.
no release date for ics....just for the nexus on november
they did release the SDK today tho !!!! gonna play with it now
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I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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actually the Source Code is already on AOSP's website for developers.
pardon my ignorance but sdk is good for making roms or just to make apps for it...or just to release hacks for other platforms like 3.2.2 ,etc. i just know its good lol but dont know what good it can be.
With the Galaxy Nexus not being released until sometime in November I think we may be waiting until December for an official release. Hope the devs can pull a rabbit out of a hat.
SDK could bring us a release but hardware acceleration is unlikely until we see the official release.
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ASUS just tweeted this:
@ASUS is testing Android 3.2 on the #EeePadTransformer now - we hope to have it released soon!
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http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
Great news, thanks.
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ASUS just tweeted this:
http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
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Dan thats fast! But i like it alot
Now, we can speculate on what "soon" means...
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Man, third update since I got mine. My Samsung vibrant had only one in a year, and it wasnt OTA either.
Soon = next week?
Great news ! i hope they release the firmware for the drain issue.
Testing means finalized.
Finalized means leaks.
Leaks means bonertime.
Yeah, we can definitely speculate on this, but they've been rather good at keeping up. If you look honestly at the 3.1 rollout, we we're only a little behind vs. the Xoom release.
Not sure this will include any major hardware-level fixes as that's really not 3.2 related (firmware vs. OS).
good news. cant wait to see whats improved.
Question: (android and tablet noob here)
So google releases the updates to its developers/companies (like samsung, motorola, asus,etc) and then they(the manufacturers) decide as to when they release it to their consumers?
im assuming because they tweak it to fit their product and might add fixes to their own hardware
Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
great news.. no surprise Xoom gets the update first since it's the so called google reference design but asus has been doing a great job..
we got the official 3.1 update nearly one month before the acer a500...let's hope asus can keep up the good work!
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
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While that may be the case for minor version updates, ICS will be a major version change (4.0?). No-one can expect every current device to be supported for every future Android version. Even Apple doesn't do that for the iDevices (original iPhone only goes as far as iOS 3.1.3).
At some point, like it or not, ASUS will stop bringing new versions for the Transformer. It makes no sense from a business point of view to do otherwise.
So, my point being is that, while ICS will be out before year end, ASUS may decide to focus development efforts of the Kal-El-based tablet they've already said will replace the Transformer. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if they did release ICS for us, but given the Transformer's hardware differences from stock (or the Xoom reference), especially around the keyboard, even having the full ICS source might mean a slightly reduced functionality Transformer at best.
Hopefully ASUS sees ICS as close enough time-wise to be a good reason to support it on the Transformer which, after all, will still be less than a year old.
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I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
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You are right. But I think Asus wants to make a good impression. This is their first tablet, so if they ever want to sell a new one, they better provide updates, as this will decide the 'name' the company gets. Everyone knows Samsung as a company that doesn't provide many updates. And many people were worrying about updates, and often decided to buy a HTC smartphone, because they always provided updates. (But Samsung is definitely working on it, look at the SGS II for example.)
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not sure I agree with you there. 3.0 out of the box was sluggish and dissappointing. 3.1 pepped up the tablet no end.
Yes, there are issues with 3.1 too, but looking at how it fared on the Xoom (the Google reference device, no less!) and I think we've been lucky overall.
I'm hoping 3.2 will be the "Gold" edition of Honeycomb, if you will. Frankly, this is their (Google's) only chance as they've already stated there won't be a 3.3.
A thought just occured to me: Are we living through the Android equivalent of Windows Vista? Is ICS our Windows 7? 2.X certainly seems to have followed XP's history with the finally solid SP2/3 equivalents being 2.2 and 2.3! Bizarre
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but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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No offence, but you seem to contradict yourself. On the one hand you're saying ICS will be the starting point for new devices and then end for the older units (including Xoom and TF) and then you say we should expect it.
I really hope we DO get it, but I'm not holding ASUS to it. As others have said, it would make PR sense for ASUS TO release ICS on the Transformer, but that's 3-4 months away at best and their plans may be elsewhere by that time.
Let's just hope for the best! (Or hope some devs deem the TF to be worthy to port ICS if it isn't supported by ASUS)
Technobuffalo has an article quoting Mr. Schmidt of Google saying ICS will be deployed around Oct/Nov. How long till the Tab sees it? Is there even a point if it is mostly going to be based off of honeycomb anyways?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...eam-sandwich-coming-in-oct-or-nov-it-appears/
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If it doesn't hit the market in any form until November, I think very few existing products will see ICS this year.
Some might, if only so their manufacturers can behave like twelve-year-olds on the internet and jump up and down shouting 'First!' but I think it will come in reasonable time.
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Is there even a point if it is mostly going to be based off of honeycomb anyways?
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I think you're maybe looking at it the wrong way.
It doesn't matter what it's based on, all that matters is that it's the next step forward to an all-round better OS for both phones and tablets.
From what I understand (which is little) the biggest difference we Tablet owners will see will be the availability of more apps (phone apps) scaled up. Along with facial recognition, ability to save web pages for offline viewing, UI changes and scalable widgets.
What great times for Android. One operating system for all and with Amazon offering 50 bucks to developers till November and changes to their appstore coming before their tablet this winter it seems like it is just nonstop good news for Android users.
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Amazon is going to be one hell of a unique fork, OS wise. It should run most regular Android applications, but forget about customizing the UI, and forget about things like application sideloading, Google Music Beta, Google Books, Nook, (or ePubs in general). It'll be locked down tight (bet it won't even have SD card support) and it'll be missing (to some) key features, like cameras and GPS.
Most worrisome of all, if it's a big success and they sell all 5 million they plan on producing this year, it'll FURTHER fragment the Android user base, as developers will need to make stuff for 1.6-2.3 phones/tablets, 3.x tablets, 4.x phones and tablets, and and Amazon's fork of 2.2.
Good news is, if the sales are strong, it'll pull more developers over to the world of Dalvik, and some of that should trickle down to "regular" phones and tablets.
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Amazon is going to be one hell of a unique fork, OS wise. It should run most regular Android applications, but forget about customizing the UI, and forget about things like application sideloading, Google Music Beta, Google Books, Nook, (or ePubs in general). It'll be locked down tight (bet it won't even have SD card support) and it'll be missing (to some) key features, like cameras and GPS.
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Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.
One way or another the Galaxy Tab will have ICS within a month of AOSP release. Maybe not a official Samsung release though!
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Samsung LOL, around Feb officially....
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Samsung LOL, around Feb officially....
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A Samsung official update? Nooo more like June We may have a CM8 build by Feb, but this is assuming that Google doesn't sit on its hands over the AOSP release. It takes a while for the source to drop
I'm pretty sure when Google releases the source to ICS one of the talented devs on this forum will port an AOSP over to the Galaxy Tab, I don't see why they wouldn't.
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A Samsung official update? Nooo more like June We may have a CM8 build by Feb, but this is assuming that Google doesn't sit on its hands over the AOSP release. It takes a while for the source to drop
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Ahh what I meant to say was Samsung will release it in Feb but then pull it after too many bugs...... then take till June like you said
Mmmmmm CM8 on this would be awesome, running a CM variant on my SGS
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Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.
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http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/amazon-kindle-tablet/
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Where are people getting all this sort of information?
I hadn't seen any details about Amazon's take on Android but you're posting about it here and someone else is posting about it here.
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i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..
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i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..
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What? Pershoot has a kernel for the 7500... And nobody can "let you down" unless they owe you something...
_delice_doluca_ said:
i dont want to look like i dont have any faith in our devs but how can you believe they will port the aosp ICS to tab 10.1 when its on even though we dont have any kernel for even p7500 ?
i switched to tab10.1 from xoom for 2 reasons; 1, the screen was better and 2, i believed it would be more populer so it would have more devs than the xoom..
screen is perfect but the number 2 let me down..
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There's no guarantee that ICS will offer any real improvement on the Tab, aside from maybe scaling older phone apps better (though 3.2 should fix that).
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What? Pershoot has a kernel for the 7500... And nobody can "let you down" unless they owe you something...
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sorry i havent seen it.. besides i wasnt trying to say they owe us those kernels.. really, i apretiate their work.. but i am sure you understand what i am trying to say..
I can't wait for ICS, but I'd be happy with any vanilla android right now. TouchWiz annoys the crap out of me.
It's been bothering me that a lot of people don't think the atrix is going to get an official ice cream sandwich update.
I decided to make this thread to consolidate any discussion or questions about the future update.
The android carrier alliance promises that any device will be updated to the newest version of android for 18 months after its release (if its hardware allows it).
Three points to make:
1) Since ICS is being released in oct/nov, the 18 months portion of the agreement becomes null and void. The atrix is within the timeframe.
2) The nexus S is getting ICS, and since the hardware in the atrix is superior (dual core processor, battery, etc), the atrix can receive the ICS update.
3) With google's acquisition of MM the likeliness of the atrix receiving ICS has gone up substantially, whether or not it remains as a seperate branch under google's ownership. It also increases the chances of us getting a stock (or very close to stock) ICS build.
All these signs point me to believe that the atrix is for sure getting ICS. What're your thoughts?
Cheers
Also I think the Atrix Dev Team will be handing their CM7 build over to Cyanogenmod for nightlis and it will be an official CM device. And if that happens, when Cyanogenmod makes CM8 with ICS we'll get it the I'd guess.
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Who gives a crap.
Didn't they announce that after the release of the Atrix ? Or does that not matter?
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I think my thread was cooler.
I voided my warranty.
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3) With google's acquisition of MM the likeliness of the atrix receiving ICS has gone up substantially, whether or not it remains as a seperate branch under google's ownership. It also increases the chances of us getting a stock (or very close to stock) ICS build.
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I think that while Google's purchase/buyout seems like it may benefit Android users. I also feel that it will not give any benefits until long after the Atrix has passed it's sell by date. Mergers and acquisitions take time to complete. Systems have to be integrated on a large scale, and corporate policies realized in the acquired business. I think Google's initial focus will be on patents, and secondary long term focus will then be Android, and how they can take the lions share of the marketplace with smart devices (not just phones). Give it 2 years at least in my opinion before we see a big swing.
This is almost the exact same thing I said over in the Motorola Forums (or maybe I said it here, I can't remember). It seems people expect things to change immediately but probably don't realize it's not even a done deal yet as of this posting. There still needs to be an investigation and approvals and all that. Like you said, it could be a couple years before any changes (within Motorola's camp anyways) becomes noticeable.
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I think that while Google's purchase/buyout seems like it may benefit Android users. I also feel that it will not give any benefits until long after the Atrix has passed it's sell by date. Mergers and acquisitions take time to complete. Systems have to be integrated on a large scale, and corporate policies realized in the acquired business. I think Google's initial focus will be on patents, and secondary long term focus will then be Android, and how they can take the lions share of the marketplace with smart devices (not just phones). Give it 2 years at least in my opinion before we see a big swing.
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Also, it seems people forget that Motoblur exists on Motorola devices. Unless they actually convert the Blur service into a full on application platform I don't see an "Official" ICS build coming to the Atrix until at least 6 months after Google releases the code for it. Our best bet lies within the great devs we have here in the community. Which reminds me, everyone, stop complaining about updates!
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This is almost the exact same thing I said over in the Motorola Forums (or maybe I said it here, I can't remember). It seems people expect things to change immediately but probably don't realize it's not even a done deal yet as of this posting. There still needs to be an investigation and approvals and all that. Like you said, it could be a couple years before any changes (within Motorola's camp anyways) becomes noticeable.
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Here's the thing, yes Google will have a flava of it sitting around that XDA can port over.
The real question is what's the ETA with the carriers?
For instance my Motorola Milestone didn't have "Froyo" ready until the end of March this year, and it was a half-assed effort put together by Telus. Then shortly after, they discontinued the phone.
I agree that XDA users will have a port of ICS through CM7, but for OTA who knows when that will be?...
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It's been bothering me that a lot of people don't think the atrix is going to get an official ice cream sandwich update.
I decided to make this thread to consolidate any discussion or questions about the future update.
The android carrier alliance promises that any device will be updated to the newest version of android for 18 months after its release (if its hardware allows it).
Three points to make:
1) Since ICS is being released in oct/nov, the 18 months portion of the agreement becomes null and void. The atrix is within the timeframe.
2) The nexus S is getting ICS, and since the hardware in the atrix is superior (dual core processor, battery, etc), the atrix can receive the ICS update.
3) With google's acquisition of MM the likeliness of the atrix receiving ICS has gone up substantially, whether or not it remains as a seperate branch under google's ownership. It also increases the chances of us getting a stock (or very close to stock) ICS build.
All these signs point me to believe that the atrix is for sure getting ICS. What're your thoughts?
Cheers
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Your first point is completely wrong. They guaranteed updates to the phone, but never specifically to the "latest version" of android released. IE you will get security/bug fix updates, but not necessarily updates to the base OS. Secondly, this only applies to phones released AFTER the agreement. Also, google is merely urging NOT requiring them. So basically, all this agreement leads to is that future devices will have a minimum of an 18 month support cycle, nothing more.
Right after we get GB, people start asking for ICS...
This even shows more proof that we, as human, will never be satisfied with what we got.
which can be both good and bad..
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Right after we get GB, people start asking for ICS...
This even shows more proof that we, as human, will never be satisfied with what we got.
which can be both good and bad..
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There are no humans here, only Androids and Androids are selfish.
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I read this...sounds like we are going to be seeing it next month...
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/41975/android-ice-cream-sandwich-release-date
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Mac11700 said:
I read this...sounds like we are going to be seeing it next month...
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/41975/android-ice-cream-sandwich-release-date
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my bday is next month lol and this would make a great gift comming from googrola
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my bday is next month lol and this would make a great gift comming from googrola
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I saw this on my b-day yesterday...
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Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
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I doubt there will be any hardware limitations, atleast I'm not aware of any. I'm quite sure there will be some cheap Tegra2 devices with Icecream Sandwich soon after it's released.
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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Acer sucks, I wouldn't hold my breath. It's likely that we'll need a custom ROM for A500.
google released a statement saying there were no new hardware limitations, so we should be compatible.
Well ics is going to open source all the other good tablets are tegra 2 so i couldn't imagine something getting cooked up a week or so after source drops
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Well I'll keep my fingers crossed then. 4.0 sounds really promising
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Acer sucks, I wouldn't hold my breath. It's likely that we'll need a custom ROM for A500.
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Didn't know Acer did so bad in supporting their hardware. They did provide updates to 3.1 and 3.2 right?
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Well I'll keep my fingers crossed then. 4.0 sounds really promising
Didn't know Acer did so bad in supporting their hardware. They did provide updates to 3.1 and 3.2 right?
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Yup. Just a little behind schedule - and without great communication.
This is typical Acer. Lucky part is - as Android users we can choose to not rely on the hardware devs and run custom roms.
ICS should definitly be able to be placed on the A500. All Android tablets now pretty much have the same hardware, the Tegra 2 chipset. If no ICS for the A500, I would assume no ICS for any Tegra 2 device. Which I believe 100% will not be the case.
And hopefully when ICS releases, they will release the source code so we can have AOSP ROMS. Then it wont matter whether Acer releases an official ROM because devs can build from AOSP and throw in the necessary code for the specific hardware of the A500.
Finally got the A500
I have been reading this user group comments for weeks now to gain as much info about the A500 as possible and after reading comments both good and bad, I decided to go out and buy.
I really love this device. It is better than I anticipated. It came with 3.01, however Acer upgraded the firmware over the weekend first to 3.1 and then to 3.2, so I am very impressed, (after having Samsung devices for 18 months and receiving no updates at all, still on 2.2).
I am very glad this U.G. exists as many of my questions have already come to the fore, thanks for that. The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
There has been talk about Ice Cream Sandwich running on the A500, does anyone know what is different about android 4.0 compared to 3.2?
rosse912003 said:
I have been reading this user group comments for weeks now to gain as much info about the A500 as possible and after reading comments both good and bad, I decided to go out and buy.
I really love this device. It is better than I anticipated. It came with 3.01, however Acer upgraded the firmware over the weekend first to 3.1 and then to 3.2, so I am very impressed, (after having Samsung devices for 18 months and receiving no updates at all, still on 2.2).
I am very glad this U.G. exists as many of my questions have already come to the fore, thanks for that. The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
There has been talk about Ice Cream Sandwich running on the A500, does anyone know what is different about android 4.0 compared to 3.2?
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My girlfriend makes the same threats Just Google 'Ice Cream Sandwich features' for some more info. They haven't released a whole lot of info yet, but in a nutshell it will be a a uniform operating system that will run on phones and tablets instead of 2 different OS. Some cool new features have been discussed, but I have a feeling there's a lot we won't find out about until it gets released (October/November last I heard).
It is officialy stated that tegra 2 devices wil be given ICS update.
http://acer-a500.ru/news/880-planshety-na-baze-tegra-2-poluchat-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich.html
Main advantage - 1 OS for all devices! Easier for app devs, easier for Google
This article is based on Eric Schmidt's statement.
rosse912003 said:
The only problem is that my wife has threatened to throw the device out the window if I dont stop fiddling with the A500 and show her some attention as well.
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tgtoys said:
My girlfriend makes the same threats
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You both have boring girlfriends tbh! Fiddling with electronics, gadgets and games is fun, and it's even more fun together :3
But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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You're so very very bad!
I like it!
WereCatf said:
You both have boring girlfriends tbh! Fiddling with electronics, gadgets and games is fun, and it's even more fun together :3
But well, try telling them that fiddling with such helps keep your fingers nimble....
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Yea, I got myself an A100 and gave her my A500(bought her a logitech bluetooth keyboard to go with it). So I get the smaller lighter "nimbler" device. She got the bigger thicker device so she gets a stronger grip.
All kidding aside, tablets do make excellent platforms for watching porn with your partner. It even has dual cameras in case you want to make your own too.
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Yea, I got myself an A100 and gave her my A500(bought her a logitech bluetooth keyboard to go with it). So I get the smaller lighter "nimbler" device. She got the bigger thicker device so she gets a stronger grip.
All kidding aside, tablets do make excellent platforms for watching porn with your partner. It even has dual cameras in case you want to make your own too.
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ok??? Thanks for the marital guidence guys... I think??
Roll on Ice Cream Sandwich or... is that something kinky??
rosse912003 said:
ok??? Thanks for the marital guidence guys... I think??
Roll on Ice Cream Sandwich or... is that something kinky??
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I was taking their kidding and making a real comment that the 7" form factor tablet is a good blend for an aid to lovemaking, yes. While I joked with them, I meant my statement to have no innuendo and intended it to be just my obesrvation.
Certainly wasn't trying to offend and apologize if it came across the wrong way.
hav0c said:
Since Android 4.0 is scheduled around december I was wondering if this version will be able to run on the A500 or are there already known hardware limitations?
Anyone heard any rumors about future updates (from Acer) yet?
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I consider everything rumor and speculation until it actually happens, even when it comes from companies themselves. But to date, we've been told that ICS is a merging of the phone and tablet OS. That in and of itself should allow us the luxury of surmising that this OS should work on all if not most devices currently running Gingerbread and Honeycomb at the very least.
It will be of course up to manufacturers to take the time to port it to their past devices, something not very many companies are ever willing to do since it doesn't really add any physical value (for them) to the product but I would think the current tablet providers would essentially get the update to their products as quickly as they can considering 1. they don't have a multitude of variants on the market and 2. they still have lots on store shelves etc. so it would indeed add physical value to their product - unlike for example, expecting HTC to update their Mytouch 4G or Samsung to update their Galaxy I US carrier line which have been on the market for almost a year.
Don't believe any rumors you hear and remember to take everything right now as speculation and with a grain of salt. Acer could very well today say they will update and a month or 2 after it's out tell us it won't/can't be done. Such is the way of tech.
I think it will come to the A500. Maybe not as quickly as it does to the Tab 10.1 or Transformer, but not too long afterwards. Acer has proven themselves to at the very least be consistent with their updates if albeit slow (for some), and so I'll take my positives where I can. I'm fine with slow and steady.
Erica wants icecream now.give this woman what she needs.icecream with sprinkles.taste a rainbow.
All seroious thou if we gwt it will come from dev or very late.booohooo
I've just received notification for update 4.031.26 for A501
I'm in Australia
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I was taking their kidding and making a real comment that the 7" form factor tablet is a good blend for an aid to lovemaking, yes. While I joked with them, I meant my statement to have no innuendo and intended it to be just my obesrvation.
Certainly wasn't trying to offend and apologize if it came across the wrong way.
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No worries mate, just being a little light hearted. You're sharing from your heart, just like it should be. By the way, do you play mkv files? If so, what player do you use?
bmc622000 said:
I've just received notification for update 4.031.26 for A501
I'm in Australia
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From what previous version ?
Chances we will get Jelly Bean on the Eee Pad Transformer?
very high
I'm hoping there's a good chance for JB. As a TF101 owner, they basically have a good record updating our OS's, so I'm guessing we might get it in 3-6 months. (yes i said 6).
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I'm hoping there's a good chance for JB. As a TF101 owner, they basically have a good record updating our OS's, so I'm guessing we might get it in 3-6 months. (yes i said 6).
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Well we also have aosp roms like CM and AOPK and the release cycle on that (alpha's anyways) is only about 2-3 months
I read somewhere that ASUS only guaranteed an update for 18 months from first say of TF101.
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I read somewhere that ASUS only guaranteed an update for 18 months from first say of TF101.
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launched end of may / beginning of april last year so we still have some time
Yeah till at least Christmas I hope But if Cm9 (Or cm10???) gets it so will we.
Base on the TF101 spec.. it more than capable of handling JellyBean. And Asus know this too.. unless they play this marketing over bussiness game on us and indirectly forcing Asus loyalties to buy their new range of upcoming devices with JellyBean ready. Will wait and see what in Asus future pipeline in store for us by 3rd quarter in the calander year.
TF101 is still a current model, it's still for sale by Asus, and therefore will be part of their 18month support agreement (which only starts when the product is discontinued).
With this, and the fact that Asus have been working with Google on the Nexus7 and will have had access to the Jellybean source for quite a few months, and the fact that ICS still isn't 100% stable on the TF101, i think it's pretty much a given that it will happen.
Not that I care, as mines a BO50 and totally unlocked to flash what I want, so can go CM10 if I want, but it would be nice if Asus supported it.
JB isn't going to be released from Google until thanksgiving (from what I've read) so if we get it at all it wont be until after the first of the year. remember Asus now has the slider, the Prime and now the tf301. i am sure they will have others by then as well. those devices will get updated first just because they are newer and it will be at least 2 month per device for each update to make sure they have a stable release. so don't hold your breath, IMHO.
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The only reason I hope/think we will get it because asus is a great company. I just wish they made a phone other than padfone (regular smartphone) and I would buy that soooo fast.
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ICS has VERY poor install rate. Even since the source code release most new devices released have still used Gingerbread. Honeycomb and ICS were both rushed. I think most devices will end up skipping ICS and move straight to Jellybean.
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6 months? Hell, I hope to have a tablet running Win8 by then.
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ICS has VERY poor install rate.
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That's what the Android hating Apple sites would have you think. Wait until you see the Google pie-chart next time around.
I know all the 2011 Xperias are now ICS, the 2012 Xperia S, with the others hot on their heels, wast swathes of HTC phones from 2011/2012, along with Moto, Samsung Note/Tabs, The Transformer range.
There isn't a whole lot from the last 18 months that's not got it yet, or not due it in the coming weeks.
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6 months? Hell, I hope to have a tablet running Win8 by then.
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Really? You do know they don't run Windows apps right?
Nobody that's got a techbrain and equiped with the facts wants a Windows 8 tablet.
Watching the live stream now - source for JB is going to be mid July, so I don't think it will be TOO long before someone gives us JB - either Asus or CM or someone..
Yes I watched as well, SDK available today, Source Mid July, PDK available today (we don't qualify most likely unless someone wants to get into the hardware business). Available on current nexus devices by mid-July, and the Xoom I think I heard. I am really hopefully that our first gen Transformers get this because it will likely be the last update my tablet sees before it is upgraded some time next year. (2 year cycle on tablets and phones, phone already done this year now I just have to wait patiently till next year for a new tablet ;-) )
The Google Now and the new notification features is what really has me interested.
are we loosing the tablet ui? or is it because its 7 inches? it would be kinda awkward on the 10inch screen
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That's what the Android hating Apple sites would have you think. Wait until you see the Google pie-chart next time around.
I know all the 2011 Xperias are now ICS, the 2012 Xperia S, with the others hot on their heels, wast swathes of HTC phones from 2011/2012, along with Moto, Samsung Note/Tabs, The Transformer range.
There isn't a whole lot from the last 18 months that's not got it yet, or not due it in the coming weeks.
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Ya i agree a lot of the phones sill on 2.3 and such are because people are to tech illiterate to press the check update now button or simlpy run odin/kies. It does not mean that the update is not available. And add that to the massive ammounts of sh*** chinese kirfs you get the poor looking pie chart
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Really? You do know they don't run Windows apps right?
Nobody that's got a techbrain and equiped with the facts wants a Windows 8 tablet.
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I can't do anything productive with Android like use MS Office. NONE of the Android office suites do what I need them to do. So Microsoft is going to put Win8 on a tablet but you are not going to be able to use office. I don't think so.
The AOSP branches will probably see JellyBean versions coming out relatively soon after source code is released. As far as official JellyBean support from Asus... I'd say don't get your hopes up, and for sure don't count on it..