As i have been reading on asus.com, our transformer can already update to 4.0 ics?!
You might want to check treir speccs of our transformer:
Android 3.2 Honeycomb O.S.(4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich upgradable) with Adobe® Flash® 10.2 support
So, who the hell can already update his device?? Well, i cant :-(
Link: http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#download
Asus made a comment that by the end of the year the transformer would get an update to ics...I think that they are just telling you when available you will get ics
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It says "upgradeable" on the item description, if you check the download section Honeycomb 3.2.1 as below is available.
V8.6.5.13 Only for US SKU (Android 3.2.1)
It's available for multiple SKU, not just US.
It's dated 19 October 2011 so it's quite recent. When they'll have ICS up only they know for sure.
miHah said:
As i have been reading on asus.com, our transformer can already update to 4.0 ics?!
You might want to check treir speccs of our transformer:
Android 3.2 Honeycomb O.S.(4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich upgradable) with Adobe® Flash® 10.2 support
So, who the hell can already update his device?? Well, i cant :-(
Link: http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#download
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Yes it has the capability to upgrade to ICS when it is available. That doesn't mean today.
Sales pitch, like the Xoom was upgradable from 3g to LTE.
Android 3.2 Honeycomb O.S.(4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich upgradable) with Adobe® Flash® 10.2 support*2
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Upgradable does not always means u can upgrade now, it means aslo it is able to be upgraded to 4.0
thats the point, case closed, (and if it says upgradeable its only for testers)
I'll be honest and say that the Asus Transformer was not something that appealed to me but with the announced specs of the Transformer 2, it has really got me excited. One thing that is really important is the update support from Asus. From what I can gather, it seems like Asus are pretty on the ball with releasing timely updates for the Transformer? Is this really true? The fact that it seems like ICS will be released on the original Transformer is a great confidence booster.
Comments/Suggestions all welcome.
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I'll be honest and say that the Asus Transformer was not something that appealed to me but with the announced specs of the Transformer 2, it has really got me excited. One thing that is really important is the update support from Asus. From what I can gather, it seems like Asus are pretty on the ball with releasing timely updates for the Transformer? Is this really true? The fact that it seems like ICS will be released on the original Transformer is a great confidence booster.
Comments/Suggestions all welcome.
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ASUS has been the best, bar none, at updating their Android tablet. Samsung still hasn't updated the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to 3.2, for example, although they've announced that ICS will be coming to it someday. This is just one reason why I've become a huge ASUS fan since buying my Transformer.
News : ASUS Transformer Prime could go on sale with Honeycomb next week, Android 4.0 to follow
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ASUS has been the best, bar none, at updating their Android tablet. Samsung still hasn't updated the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to 3.2, for example, although they've announced that ICS will be coming to it someday. This is just one reason why I've become a huge ASUS fan since buying my Transformer.
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That's very encouraging. However, I'm not a massive early adopter so I'll probably wait for some decent reviews and for Asus to release ICS update before I take the plunge. I really want a tablet that can run Android buttery smooth and really think the TF2 is the one.
Please, less threads on the ICS update...
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Please, less threads on the ICS update...
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It's not the thread about Asus Transformer, ICS and update? It is!!
So why are you post this?
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That's very encouraging. However, I'm not a massive early adopter so I'll probably wait for some decent reviews and for Asus to release ICS update before I take the plunge. I really want a tablet that can run Android buttery smooth and really think the TF2 is the one.
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It already runs buttery smoothe. Much better than anything else I've used with android. If you want to save money I would get the first one. If money isn't an issue I would definitely wait and grab the Prime. The other tablets are jokes compared to these.
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It already runs buttery smoothe. Much better than anything else I've used with android. If you want to save money I would get the first one. If money isn't an issue I would definitely wait and grab the Prime. The other tablets are jokes compared to these.
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Well that is certainly reassuring. I was thinking of getting the TF101 (people told me to wait for the Prime, but I thought the hardware on the TF101 is fine). As long as the TF101 runs ICS without a hick I'll be happy. ICS is designed for dual core processors, right?
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It already runs buttery smoothe. Much better than anything else I've used with android. If you want to save money I would get the first one. If money isn't an issue I would definitely wait and grab the Prime. The other tablets are jokes compared to these.
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Price is not my primary concern but video play back is as that is what I will be mainly using it for. The tegra2 chips are all really poor for video decoding which is why I haven't invested in a tablet yet. The Asus prime and Toshiba excite are the only tablets that I know (coming out before xmas) that have a better chip than the tegra2 for video decoding. Both are really sexy and seem worth spending the extra on over current cheaper tablets. I guess I'll find out for sure when tjd tablets are properly released and reviews start trickling down.
As far as dual core goes I'm unsure what ics is doing. All I know is honeycomb runs great so if ics runs better I'll be stoked.
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It's not the thread about Asus Transformer, ICS and update? It is!!
So why are you post this?
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i thought prime should be released with ICS
I agree! Too many ICS update and ICS Port(s) threads! I work in Western Australia's mining boom so I'm cash rich but time poor (for how long, is a crash coming?). I seem to spend hours reading these threads, enjoyable though they are,
What I need is either a way for the XDA system or a human being to alert me when a "mostly" working port (ICS Port release candidate?) or Upgrade (for field testing) is available. I have 5 Android devices atm so if a beta release has problems on one of them, I'll still be able to stay in contact with the developers any of the others.
Maybe a technical report whenever there's real progress for which I would pay, specially if it gets written up in somewhere like India where English skills are high, and the exchange rate is good (about 50 Rupees to the dollar atm!)
Find a few more customers like me, live in a place with low cost of living, and you've got yourself a viable business, it would seem.
Hint I have receive pm set up for xda.
I'm gonna wait to upgrade until I see how the new Samsung is with it's high res display tablet next year. Also what iPad 3 will be like.
OK, that's it. I am officially sick of hearing about Ice Cream Sandwich.
Or, more to the point, I am sick of not hearing about it, and seeing the same thing posted over and over again and old threads being bumped for no good reason.
Related
ASUS just tweeted this:
@ASUS is testing Android 3.2 on the #EeePadTransformer now - we hope to have it released soon!
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http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
Great news, thanks.
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ASUS just tweeted this:
http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
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Dan thats fast! But i like it alot
Now, we can speculate on what "soon" means...
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Man, third update since I got mine. My Samsung vibrant had only one in a year, and it wasnt OTA either.
Soon = next week?
Great news ! i hope they release the firmware for the drain issue.
Testing means finalized.
Finalized means leaks.
Leaks means bonertime.
Yeah, we can definitely speculate on this, but they've been rather good at keeping up. If you look honestly at the 3.1 rollout, we we're only a little behind vs. the Xoom release.
Not sure this will include any major hardware-level fixes as that's really not 3.2 related (firmware vs. OS).
good news. cant wait to see whats improved.
Question: (android and tablet noob here)
So google releases the updates to its developers/companies (like samsung, motorola, asus,etc) and then they(the manufacturers) decide as to when they release it to their consumers?
im assuming because they tweak it to fit their product and might add fixes to their own hardware
Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
great news.. no surprise Xoom gets the update first since it's the so called google reference design but asus has been doing a great job..
we got the official 3.1 update nearly one month before the acer a500...let's hope asus can keep up the good work!
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
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While that may be the case for minor version updates, ICS will be a major version change (4.0?). No-one can expect every current device to be supported for every future Android version. Even Apple doesn't do that for the iDevices (original iPhone only goes as far as iOS 3.1.3).
At some point, like it or not, ASUS will stop bringing new versions for the Transformer. It makes no sense from a business point of view to do otherwise.
So, my point being is that, while ICS will be out before year end, ASUS may decide to focus development efforts of the Kal-El-based tablet they've already said will replace the Transformer. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if they did release ICS for us, but given the Transformer's hardware differences from stock (or the Xoom reference), especially around the keyboard, even having the full ICS source might mean a slightly reduced functionality Transformer at best.
Hopefully ASUS sees ICS as close enough time-wise to be a good reason to support it on the Transformer which, after all, will still be less than a year old.
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I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
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You are right. But I think Asus wants to make a good impression. This is their first tablet, so if they ever want to sell a new one, they better provide updates, as this will decide the 'name' the company gets. Everyone knows Samsung as a company that doesn't provide many updates. And many people were worrying about updates, and often decided to buy a HTC smartphone, because they always provided updates. (But Samsung is definitely working on it, look at the SGS II for example.)
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not sure I agree with you there. 3.0 out of the box was sluggish and dissappointing. 3.1 pepped up the tablet no end.
Yes, there are issues with 3.1 too, but looking at how it fared on the Xoom (the Google reference device, no less!) and I think we've been lucky overall.
I'm hoping 3.2 will be the "Gold" edition of Honeycomb, if you will. Frankly, this is their (Google's) only chance as they've already stated there won't be a 3.3.
A thought just occured to me: Are we living through the Android equivalent of Windows Vista? Is ICS our Windows 7? 2.X certainly seems to have followed XP's history with the finally solid SP2/3 equivalents being 2.2 and 2.3! Bizarre
turbulent28 said:
but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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No offence, but you seem to contradict yourself. On the one hand you're saying ICS will be the starting point for new devices and then end for the older units (including Xoom and TF) and then you say we should expect it.
I really hope we DO get it, but I'm not holding ASUS to it. As others have said, it would make PR sense for ASUS TO release ICS on the Transformer, but that's 3-4 months away at best and their plans may be elsewhere by that time.
Let's just hope for the best! (Or hope some devs deem the TF to be worthy to port ICS if it isn't supported by ASUS)
Hi....so what is the stand of Acer related to us getting 3.2 ?
I hope the won't just update to 3.2 but also improve a lot a bugs related specifically to this tablet, for example rotation time....while using Virtuous Galaxy, one can tell this ain't hardware related but software related....
VG rom rotates sooooo much a faster than Acer roms that you can actually dare to rotate it..ans show friends how it handles it!
GPS also works poorly for me.
Well ....any comments or news?
Happy to know more of this 3.2 Honeycomb release!
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As it's coming for the Transformer soon, I expect iconia tab to follow shortly...
The core 3.2 drop from Google isn't exactly that feature rich (just a few font/sizing smoothing and SD card improvements) - Offical 3.2 release notes - so I'm with you in hoping for some general performance improvements from ACER directly.
Overall I'm not really waiting for 3.2 (at least not as much as I was for the 3.0 > 3.1 update) - that might change if Acer actually notified the community more about *what* they are doing in their releases - most of the time the only way to find what's changed is by poking around the update file after it's dropped.
I know it's for sure too early talk about (and a bit off topic too), but while I think that 3.2 will come for both A500 and A501, I'm quite worried about the timing. I'm new to Acer devices (only have HTC Desire as a cell phone). To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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I know it's for sure too early talk about (and a bit off topic too), but while I think that 3.2 will come for both A500 and A501, I'm quite worried about the timing. I'm new to Acer devices (only have HTC Desire as a cell phone). To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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By the time 4.0 comes out, the Tegra3 will be launching right along side/with it. Time for some quad core lovin'!
kjy2010 said:
By the time 4.0 comes out, the Tegra3 will be launching right along side/with it. Time for some quad core lovin'!
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That's for sure. I'm not updating my tablet or phone until ice cream 4.0 is out. The EVO and acer will have to do until then.
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I've already made up my mind not to upgrade to a quad when it comes out. Duo is enough for me for now. The acer and gtab should last me for a while.
3.2 is for 7" tablet.. so why look for it?
expand/minimise window is nice , but 3.2? i think 3.1.1 would have be ok.
acer will not deliver anything good with 3.2, just resized window, what a fracking breakthrough..
well there is one part of the update that looks helpful: and that is the extended micro SD support. Meaning my music apps might actually be able to properly utilize my card.
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I know it's for sure too early talk about (and a bit off topic too), but while I think that 3.2 will come for both A500 and A501, I'm quite worried about the timing. I'm new to Acer devices (only have HTC Desire as a cell phone). To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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I wouldn't worry too much. 4.0 will apparently be open sourced, like with 2.x, so rom builders can put together proper roms for the device rather than just modified versions of existing roms. 4.0 will come the iconia one way or another.
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By the time 4.0 comes out, the Tegra3 will be launching right along side/with it. Time for some quad core lovin'!
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Are you saying that 4.0 will require Tegra3 and/or quad core? Is this official or just your speculation?
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I agree that 3.2 is a minor update. However, if Asus and Moto are pumping it out I doubt that Acer will not follow suit. They already dropped the price to match the Asus so I have to believe they are keeping a close eye on the competition.
4.0 IceCream Sandwich is obviously the big update for the end of the year and really I'm thinking the a500 would be getting it. Probably not right at launch but fairly soon after. I'm of the opinion that Android has done a pretty good job of pumping out updates frequently and that keeps the carriers/manufacturers pretty loose with the hardware upgrade cycles. Meaning, unless there is a hardware limitation, I would bet the a500 gets the update since it has not been out that long. In the long run, even if it doesn't officially come from Acer, I'm sure the devs cook up some 4.0 goodness for us.
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Are you saying that 4.0 will require Tegra3 and/or quad core? Is this official or just your speculation?
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On the contrary, 4.0 "supposedly" is to bring both phones and tablets onto the same OS!
cm0901 said:
To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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This is my first Acer so I can't speak on lifetime, but the joy of Android, I'll guess long after Acer has moved on to the next tablet (A600 ?) - there will still be some resourceful people here releasing custom ROM updates including whatever neat updates including in the next tablet generation - but I'll put money down that their support model will be slightly longer than most carriers and their phones.
well I'm in no rush for it and wasn't in a rush for 3.1 only thing I would like is for better gps
base on Malaysia Acer,Hi fans - the Honeycomb 3.2 update for our Iconia Tab A500 will be released from 10th August onwards ~ stay tuned !
Several major changes
- Compatibility Zoom (app scaling)
- microSD card support (via USB cable to PC)
and many more ~!
http://www.facebook.com/#!/AcerMalaysia
Don't know if it's true or not
We might not get 4.0.......coz by that time acer would release its 7 inch tab running on 4.0....so....less probability for us getting an update for 4.0
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vari9 said:
We might not get 4.0.......coz by that time acer would release its 7 inch tab running on 4.0....so....less probability for us getting an update for 4.0
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Don't quite follow the logic that because the 7 inch tab would be out, the 10 inch won't get it?? The 7 isn't considered an 'upgrade' just another option.
update chasser threada
Just my openion here.yesne replying to this thread makes as guilty as um going to talk about here.With that said
Why is it we sit and wait wait grumbling about the next update. I do use my tablet and enjoy it as is.Stop chasing the next update. It will come
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Just my openion here.yesne replying to this thread makes as guilty as um going to talk about here.With that said
Why is it we sit and wait wait grumbling about the next update. I do use my tablet and enjoy it as is.Stop chasing the next update. It will come
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Well... there's more than someone here who loves updating and in general hacking their devices
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cfrock said:
Don't quite follow the logic that because the 7 inch tab would be out, the 10 inch won't get it?? The 7 isn't considered an 'upgrade' just another option.
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I'm not sure there was any? No need to look for something that's not there.
We'll get HC 3.2 the same way we got 3.1, 4-8 weeks behind Asia and Europe. I'm thinking we may very well get it here in the us by the time 4.0 comes out.....maybe?
is a very good question.. any "official" word?
No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb
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not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb
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I'll bet a nickel that "unofficially" there will be roms for our device for a couple years forward. Ice cream sandwich and beyond.
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No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems
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The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems
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It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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there is one reason why ACER might not port ICS to the A500, the A500 is not a phone, the A501 is possibly more into getting updated to ICS.
From what I understand (read somewhere), is that according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
My bet is that we'll get it sometime early next year.
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It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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But you're just speculating.
Google has already stated that ICS will be AOSP'ed, so worst case scenario we'll at least be able to get native 3rd party ROMs for our A500's as long as the developer community remains strong.
Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
You had to be part of the Open Handset Alliance to get the source code for Honeycomb. Google wanted more control on this particular release to keep vendors from trying to use it on a regular phone.
From the "leaked" photos I'm not really impressed with the ice cream sandwich update. It might be nice on phones but I love honeycomb on tablets. Yes there could be some improvement but overall honeycomb is great.
ACER could get alot of good geek buzz, if they update to ICS and open the bootloader up.
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with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate
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Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Ruh roh am I the troll?
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cordell507 said:
with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate
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I think you will be disappointed. ICS is supposed to re-unite the phone and tabs os into one.
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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
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Open Handset Alliance == Android Alliance?
Not sure of that, but I may be well wrong...
Euclid's Brother said:
according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
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Ah, but an update to an OS and a NEW OS version are two entirely different things. Updates are point releases and bug fixes. You confuse the two, methinks. I deal with a lot of business contracts and I think I can speak with a bit of confidence that there's no way Google would force vendors to do major updates. Besides, if they did that you would now have Honeycomb on some phones... Obviously they can't because you can't even guarantee the same hardware will run the next major release.
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If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
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Again I disagree - sure there might be some irritated people on these forums, but the average consumer is now buying this tablet from Wal Mart of all places. That means they ain't all geeks anymore and probably won't even know when ICS is released.
The real trick is to buy like the manufacturers intended. Buy a tablet that does what you want RIGHT NOW. If you can't do that, don't buy because there's absolutely no guarantee that it will do what you want later.
It's like buying a Ford hoping for a free update to Jaguar before your warranty expires. Okay so it's nothing like that. But it is.
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But you're just speculating.
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But isn't that the point?
For those who are looking to buy an A500. Staples will have them on sale for $299 on 11/13. Looks like it is in store only.
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Sorry but it looks like this sale is by invitation only Link
I may be retarded, but that says it's a black friday sneak preview. What's it have to do with 11/13?
lbhocky19 said:
I may be retarded, but that says it's a black friday sneak preview. What's it have to do with 11/13?
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See my edited post above....
I just bought one on eBay for $250
What do you guys think?
They're all going to drop in price when the T2 releases with ICS! (next month)
So is paying $250 too much for it?
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edward.hidalgo said:
So is paying $250 too much for it?
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That's a question only you can answer. Is it worth $250.00 to you?
edward.hidalgo said:
I just bought one on eBay for $250
What do you guys think?
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A500 or A100? New or used? Warranty? I think you're asking how it compares to the current selling price? With more info you can get an answer to your question.
kjy2010 said:
They're all going to drop in price when the T2 releases with ICS! (next month)
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by T2 you mean Transformer 2 right? which is actually the Transformer Prime, and not launching with ICS. But like every other tablet, getting ICS soon
But yeah, the price on ALL tablets are going to be dropping soon anyway. With updated models coming out and Christmas sales, not to mention the impending ICS release, tablets are going to be a hot item this holiday shopping season. I may even pick up another one if I find a good enough deal
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by T2 you mean Transformer 2 right? which is actually the Transformer Prime, and not launching with ICS. But like every other tablet, getting ICS soon
But yeah, the price on ALL tablets are going to be dropping soon anyway. With updated models coming out and Christmas sales, not to mention the impending ICS release, tablets are going to be a hot item this holiday shopping season. I may even pick up another one if I find a good enough deal
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Do you not keep up?
The T Prime was delayed so it WILL launch with ICS
http://www.androidauthority.com/asu...-prime-release-date-slides-to-december-31466/
kjy2010 said:
Do you not keep up?
The T Prime was delayed so it WILL launch with ICS
http://www.androidauthority.com/asu...-prime-release-date-slides-to-december-31466/
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At this point, it's all "he says, she says" and we won't know until there's an official announcement. http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
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At this point, it's all "he says, she says" and we won't know until there's an official announcement. http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
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Yeah, the world is still flat until you become an astronaut too right?
The T Prime was supposed to launch already, do you see it out?
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20111107PD217.html
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Yeah, the world is still flat until you become an astronaut too right?
The T Prime was supposed to launch already, do you see it out?
http://www.google.com/search?q=transformer+prime+asus+release+date
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Look, I'm not trying to argue but you keep pushing. You're like one of those people who always has to be right no matter what... Yes, it was supposed to be released yesterday, and yes, they also pushed it to December. That happens all the time. They did not say why, however. They never officially stated that it was for ICS. That was only speculation. They did, however, say ICS would be coming to both Transformer's before the end of the year. Whether or not the TP launches with ICS is still unconfirmed. Until Asus makes an official statement, it is only speculation. Could it be true? Possibly. But it's still unconfirmed, nonetheless.
Look. I can post links too: http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/09/asus-...-land-in-early-december-with-tegra-3-for-500/
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Look, I'm not trying to argue but you keep pushing. You're like one of those people who always has to be right no matter what... Yes, it was supposed to be released yesterday, and yes, they also pushed it to December. That happens all the time. They did not say why, however. They never officially stated that it was for ICS. That was only speculation. They did, however, say ICS would be coming to both Transformer's before the end of the year. Whether or not the TP launches with ICS is still unconfirmed. Until Asus makes an official statement, it is only speculation. Could it be true? Possibly. But it's still unconfirmed, nonetheless.
Look. I can post links too: http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/09/asus-...-land-in-early-december-with-tegra-3-for-500/
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You get at least a half a dozen sites that say it will launch with ICS, and a couple that say it's rumor. You live in your fairy tale world and be happy bro OK?.
As to "they didn't say why" , learn to read, maybe not drop out of grade school?
And for the record, you attacked my post, I was just defending what I know to be true.
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A500 or A100? New or used? Warranty? I think you're asking how it compares to the current selling price? With more info you can get an answer to your question.
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Sorry your right its a 16GB A500 used 30 day warranty
Its going to be my first tablet so don't know much about prices on tablets what's a good deal
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All the major tech blogs have said the Prime will launch with 3.2 in December, with ICS following as an upgrade. Since they're getting their info straight from the vendor, I would count them as more credible than some guy on an online forum.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5073/asus-transformer-prime-detailed-quadcore-tegra-3-tablet
"The Transformer Prime is expected to launch in the US in December with Android 3.2. ASUS is hinting at more details on Ice Cream Sandwich availability at the launch of the Prime next month. Based on what I've heard, I wouldn't expect ICS on Tegra 3 until early next year."
http://techland.time.com/2011/11/09/asus-transformer-prime-is-the-first-quad-core-android-tablet/
"For software, the Transformer Prime runs Android 3.2, but not for long; Asus promises to upgrade the tablet to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) later in December. The upgrade will bring new features like built-in photo editing, better speech-to-text and a system-wide spell checker."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
"Software-wise, it'll ship with Android 3.2 and apps such as SuperNote and Polaris Office, and we're told we'll learn more about that ICS update in 'early December.'"
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2...-prime-pricing-release-date-quad-core-tegra-3
"There's no doubt it sounds like the best Android tablet to date, and while it won't launch with Ice Cream Sandwich, Asus is promising an over-the-air update very soon after the early December release."
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All the major tech blogs have said the Prime will launch with 3.2 in December, with ICS following as an upgrade. Since they're getting their info straight from the vendor, I would count them as more credible than some guy on an online forum.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5073/asus-transformer-prime-detailed-quadcore-tegra-3-tablet
"The Transformer Prime is expected to launch in the US in December with Android 3.2. ASUS is hinting at more details on Ice Cream Sandwich availability at the launch of the Prime next month. Based on what I've heard, I wouldn't expect ICS on Tegra 3 until early next year."
http://techland.time.com/2011/11/09/asus-transformer-prime-is-the-first-quad-core-android-tablet/
"For software, the Transformer Prime runs Android 3.2, but not for long; Asus promises to upgrade the tablet to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) later in December. The upgrade will bring new features like built-in photo editing, better speech-to-text and a system-wide spell checker."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
"Software-wise, it'll ship with Android 3.2 and apps such as SuperNote and Polaris Office, and we're told we'll learn more about that ICS update in 'early December.'"
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2...-prime-pricing-release-date-quad-core-tegra-3
"There's no doubt it sounds like the best Android tablet to date, and while it won't launch with Ice Cream Sandwich, Asus is promising an over-the-air update very soon after the early December release."
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No blogs here:
"ASUS’ Eee Pad Transformer Prime, the second-gen Transformer, may have its launch pushed back into December, so as to arrive running Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich according to the latest rumors. Google has agreed to help ASUS develop ICS for the Tegra 3 based Transformer Prime, DigiTimes‘ supply chain sources reckon, in an attempt to persuade the company not to shift its focus to Windows 8 tablets instead."
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-trans...ushed-to-dec-for-ice-cream-sandwich-08193892/
"For all of you Asus Transformer fans we have some good and bad news for you. The November 9th launch date for the Transformer Prime has been pushed back to sometime in December. Yes, this is a bummer dudes. I too was looking forward to some NVIDIA quad-core tablet goodness sometime this month.
But, on the other hand, the good news is that apparently Google is willing to help Asus in preparing the tablet so that it ships with ICS on board at launch. That’s cool, right?! We will just have to wait it out for about another month because you know the big G wants their Galaxy Nexus to be the first to arrive on scene rocking the new Android 4.o operating system. And by the way things have been lately, we all should be used to this waiting game by now… or at least expect it."
http://www.talkandroid.com/71362-asus-delays-transformer-prime-to-december-ics-on-board/
"Asus has yet to officially announce the Eee Pad Transformer Prime — that’s supposed to happen tomorrow. And while it was originally slated to launch some time later this month, the Tranformer Prime has now been pushed back to December so that Asus can ship the tablet with Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich pre-installed. Google has agreed to lend a hand to make sure the transition to ICS is a smooth one for Asus."
http://www.geek.com/articles/gadget...old-till-december-pending-ics-update-2011118/
"There’s news floating around that Asus has delayed the release of the Transformer Prime tablet, from November to December, in order to get Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich on-board at launch. Google is assisting Asus in order to complete the process as quickly as possible. It’s unclear at this point if Asus still plans to announce the tablet on November 9th like they previously scheduled, or if that’s been pushed back as well. Stay tuned."
http://www.smartkeitai.com/asus-transformer-prime-delayed-for-ice-cream-sandwich/
There's a difference between rumors and facts. What were quoted in the links I provided were info straight from the vendor from the Prime's official announcement date (11/09/2011). What you're quoting are rumors and gossip. From your own link,
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-trans...ushed-to-dec-for-ice-cream-sandwich-08193892/
"according to the latest rumors"
Please note that this particular blurb was on the 8th, a day before the official announcement.
The other links you provided are merely gossip. Given the tendency of sites to copy-paste content from each other, rumor propagation is rife. Note that all the sites you mentioned are quoting the same rumor.
Regardless of how you parse these, it's as the other poster said, that we'll know for certain when it ships. It's not a big deal either way. The main reason that I replied is because of your juvenile responses to the other poster, with petty put-downs and personal attacks. They were uncalled for.
e.mote, i know you're right, but just let him believe what he wants. obviously when i said he's one of those guys who always has to be right, i hit the nail right on the head. his response to me was totally out of line, even after i point out that it's all speculation and we won't know the truth until we get closer to the actual launch. it should be left at that.
now let's get back on topic.
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e.mote, i know you're right, but just let him believe what he wants. obviously when i said he's one of those guys who always has to be right, i hit the nail right on the head. his response to me was totally out of line, even after i point out that it's all speculation and we won't know the truth until we get closer to the actual launch. it should be left at that.
now let's get back on topic.
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Page bookmarked, I'll leave you kids to your fantasies, and we'll revisit it in December.
Update: different branches of Asus are directly contradicting each other about whether we'll get an update. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28840181 for the first example. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29269146 for yet another contradiction.
Title says it all, really. Asus Europe has confirmed at a press event that Jelly Bean will be released for the Prime, the TF300, and the TF700T, but TF101 and Slider users will be left out in the cold.
Rough translation:
"Sam from Tablets Magazine was present at the press conference, and ASUS confirmed that not all of its tablets can expect an update to the newest version of Android. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201, the Transformer Pad TF300 and the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 are certain to receive Android 4.1 Jellybean.
The previously launched models, the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, are not expected to be updated, and will remain on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich."
http://www.tabletsmagazine.nl/2012/...finity-krijgen-android-4-1-jelly-bean-update/
Some if not most of the developers here at XDA who program for the tf101 do a better job than the officials over at ASUS. I have faith in our developers and will support them fully to release any form of Jelly Bean for our beloved tablet.
Read the same news but have not seen it confirmed on other sites. Anyone? The source article says "Earlier launched models, such as the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, won't have to expect an update". They're not literally saying it will "NOT" come to the TF101. Just that it's not expected. So, it's still possible. And isn't Asus supposed to support their Android OS devices 18 months and should comply to Google regulations?
Furthermore, what grauntparty says: our respected XDA devs have done a far better job on ICS than Asus did. In fact, Asus is somehow obliged to grant us TF101 users a JB update. Especially the unlucky ones on stock rom. If you read this Asus, you know what to do... This upgrade cannot be that hard for you, even my old Defy is now running a CM10 JB nigthly already. If not, In Dev We Trust but your brand won't appear on my next shopping list.
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A propos, Motorola, another fine example of customer loyalty. Defy got stuck on Froyo with a locked bootloader, which they promised to remove in 2011. Never heard anything ever since. And now thanks to xda devs it has JB. Oh, as much as I love my precious Defy I HATE Moto.
If this is true, it'll be my last ASUS Android purchase. Halting support for new versions after only a year?!
in devs we trust, all glory to xda!!!!
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Title says it all, really. Asus Europe has confirmed at a press event that Jelly Bean will be released for the Prime, the TF300, and the TF700T, but TF101 and Slider users will be left out in the cold.
Rough translation:
"Sam from Tablets Magazine was present at the press conference, and ASUS confirmed that not all of its tablets can expect an update to the newest version of Android. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201, the Transformer Pad TF300 and the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 are certain to receive Android 4.1 Jellybean.
The previously launched models, the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, are not expected to be updated, and will remain on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich."
http://www.tabletsmagazine.nl/2012/...finity-krijgen-android-4-1-jelly-bean-update/
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this is the last thing i bought from asus ,
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If this is true, it'll be my last ASUS Android purchase. Halting support for new versions after only a year?!
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yeah, if its true, i hate it, Galaxy S II has one and a half year and GOOGLE says manufucator should at least support the device 18 months
This tablet better get an official update. It shouldn't be hard for them to come up with one.
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like wise i bought this tablet in december. and it know to old to be update a mere 7 months later. first it takes them months and months to get ics and it buggy.
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This is a surprise to any of you? There are lots of very good AOSP roms out there so we will be fine.
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Read the same news but have not seen it confirmed on other sites. Anyone? The source article says "Earlier launched models, such as the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, won't have to expect an update". They're not literally saying it will "NOT" come to the TF101. Just that it's not expected. So, it's still possible.
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I know, you don't want to believe it, but that's clutching at straws. (Google-translated straws, at that.)
Asus has told them which products are and aren't getting updates. They've reported that. The only way we'll get an update from Asus now is if they change their mind, which is pretty darned unlikely.
I'm sure we'll get an excuse at some point that the TF101 and Slider "aren't capable" of running JB, which we all know is complete nonsense.
The real reason we're not getting the update? Because we're Tegra 2, which is no longer the current generation. Hence it costs money to make the update; they can't simply repurpose an update for another device. (Devices getting the update are all Tegra 3; devices not getting it are all Tegra 2.)
If you ask me, it's likely why the ICS update we got is so rubbish, as well. We got a half-assed bodged variant of Tegra 3 ICS, rather than a proper Tegra 2 build. So frankly, it's good news that we're not getting official JB, because we'd just have gotten another half-assed build if they'd shipped one, anyway.
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I know, you don't want to believe it, but that's clutching at straws. (Google-translated straws, at that.)
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No, that's how I interpret the source article. And I'm Dutch, so I should know. I couldn't care less what Asus does or doesn't.
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This is a surprise to any of you? There are lots of very good AOSP roms out there so we will be fine.
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the matter is that i want H/W on it, AOSP doensn't have it
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No, that's how I interpret the source article. And I'm Dutch, so I should know. I couldn't care less what Asus does or doesn't.
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Fair enough, apologies for the misunderstanding, I don't often look at people's flags. Should've noticed that, though.
That said, even with your translation, you're still clutching at straws. Why would Asus tell them it wasn't coming, unless they'd decided it wasn't coming?
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the matter is that i want H/W on it, AOSP doensn't have it
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And just what is "H/W"?
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this is the last thing i bought from asus ,
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yeah, if its true, i hate it, Galaxy S II has one and a half year and GOOGLE says manufucator should at least support the device 18 months
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Transformer TF101 was launched on March 30, 2011. Adding 18 months, we should be hoping for software updates until October 2012.
That would give Asus 2.5 more months to support the device with updates. I'd personally expect perhaps 1 more ICS update but given Asus track record on updates I don't expect JB anymore. It takes them a couple (or more) of updates to get it somewhat stable and that would take more months.
WHAT its been 3 months since I bought this tablet FUC# you Asus "In XDA I TRUST"
Try getting yourself a Samsung Tablet then and see what real under valued customers have to go through. Asus have been way more reasonable with updates for the TF. I can understand the frustration but there are worse out there. Org Gtab (some) are still on Froyo, then the 1st gen larger tabs (some) are still on HC.....then the Tab2 rolled out within months of those.
Maybe the problem is just the whole Android system in itself......too many cooks and all that.
Maybe Google will have to ditch some of the manufacturers from the scene.
Or maybe the manufacturers that use Android just need to stop arseing around with it and all the fancy schmancy extra things they do with the O.S and leave it as close to the Google image as possible.
Or they should just pay our devs a good some of money to fix what they have came up with and let them show the way it should be done.
Who knows.
As much as i like how the whole android set up works for me, i have to be honest and say i now understand why and how Ipads etc are so appealing to some. Its a lot of money to spend on something that "sometimes" works the way it should.
I would jailbreak any "i"device so i dont think its a case of you shouldnt have to rely on our fantastic hard working devs to make something better......its just the way it is.
Go devs! We salute you! nuff respect :good: (look forward to some well made JB)
Well, no JellyBean crap from asus for you this time.
But as of aosp, I am making progress.
I love my TF101, even though our relationship is complex atm as we have to communicate through adb, as the touchscreen drivers aren't fixed as of now.
But JellyBean works. Just a little more effort for the first test releases.
I even get full support from my old friend guevor and maybe also from Team Liquid for Rom debugging.
Nuff said, asus.
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But JellyBean works.
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I'd be surprised by the opposite: the Xoom is on the "officially supported" list and it's almost identical (hardware-wise) to the TF101, so Jelly Bean has to work on our devices.
Keep up the good work!
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Hard/Ware acceleration, you can't play videos with H/W in aosp, and i do look at videos with my tab,
and we got no dualboot kernel for the tab neither