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UPDATE!! Looks like this was not true and there will be no WP7 for HD2 at all.
There is still hope, you can help deciphering & hacking WP7 image:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647138
(if you really want WP7S on your beloved HD2, for me this whole new OS looks more like EPIC FAIL)
Hi,
I have just got an 'inside' information from a person close to MIX10 and I think it is pretty legitimate.
HD2 is going to get WP7 update, but in a bit different way that you may think. Soon after the conference MS will distribute unfinished, pre-release WP7 image that will be intended for devlopers, so they can test their apps on real hardware before proper devices are available (in the end of the year). Obviously because HD2 is the only device at the moment - and will be for a long time - that meets hardware requirements of WP7, this image will be intended for it.
It is still unclear if final, 'production' WP7 version will be released for HD2 when new OS is launched, but even if that is not the case, I am sure that chiefs will be able to somehow mix both versions together
According to my source this will be announced very, very soon at MIX10!
We can only hope i suppose =/
aszu said:
Hi,
I have just got an 'inside' information from a person close to MIX10 and I think it is pretty legitimate.
HD2 is going to get WP7 update, but in a bit different way that you may think. Soon after the conference MS will distribute unfinished, pre-release WP7 image that will be intended for devlopers, so they can test their apps on real hardware before proper devices are available (in the end of the year). Obviously because HD2 is the only device at the moment - and will be for a long time - that meets hardware requirements of WP7, this image will be intended for it.
It is still unclear if final, 'production' WP7 version will be released for HD2 when new OS is launched, but even if that is not the case, I am sure that chiefs will be able to somehow mix both versions together
According to my source this will be announced very, very soon at MIX10!
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this is no thing , i cannot see any confirmation here please change your thread title
hoss_n2 said:
this is no thing , i cannot see any confirmation here please change your thread title
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Well, as I said, my 'source' seems to be pretty legitimate, but I agree. Title changed.
Makes pretty good sense, actually. It fits with all the 'wait for MIX10' answers to questions about the HD2 right after the WP7 announcement in Barcelona.
aszu said:
Well, as I said, my 'source' seems to be pretty legitimate, but I agree. Title changed.
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now it is better
lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft
May just be me but the WP7 posts are getting a little bit boring and shouldn't they be in there Windows Phone 7 Series forum? Rather than having multi threads on essentially the same things.
Plus we get to buy all our apps . . . again.
Let's hope for a port anyway, whether official or not...
I'd like to believe you, but the MS devs were raving about the emulator that comes with the Phone developer tools... I dunno. Seems iffy but the existence of an emulator does not preclude the HD2 from getting a 'MIX' build - after all, you need to have the emulator around for a variety of reasons, namely the HD2 won't be available forever
im also watching mix10 and as far as i remember i heared somthing like "all of you who will have an wp7s device at the end of the conference".
could be the special dev-phone, as some folks guess, but i think an hd2 rom is the easiest and the most logical solution.
So i "guess" its possible. and by the way, i excpected silverlight for mobile for months and now its there and i like it.
Well these are the hardware specs, we don't meet the 'flash' space unless it counts SD.
I can't find any info on the Snapdragon GPU specs to see whether its DX9 or not!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=294244&d=1268681600
lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft
Frostlance said:
lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft
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So you already said on the 1st page...
Multitasking from the emulator itself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5889815
mazzarin said:
Well these are the hardware specs, we don't meet the 'flash' space unless it counts SD.
I can't find any info on the Snapdragon GPU specs to see whether its DX9 or not!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=294244&d=1268681600
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Those hardware specs are basically the snapdragon specs with some ancillary stuff. Snapdragon includes the AMD z430, based on the 360s XENOS. Most confirmed WP7 devices are using snapdragon thus I expect the z430 will not be left out as far as directx9 support goes. It supports openGL es 2.0 so it has a unified pixel and vertex arch. I really don't think we are going to get an official port. But based on those specs, a hacked port doesn't seem unlikely at all.
PS does anyone know the hardware touch point limit on the HD2s digitizer?
VisualD said:
Those hardware specs are basically the snapdragon specs with some ancillary stuff. Snapdragon includes the AMD z430, based on the 360s XENOS. Most confirmed WP7 devices are using snapdragon thus I expect the z430 will not be left out as far as directx9 support goes. It supports openGL es 2.0 so it has a unified pixel and vertex arch. I really don't think we are going to get an official port. But based on those specs, a hacked port doesn't seem unlikely at all.
PS does anyone know the hardware touch point limit on the HD2s digitizer?
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these specifications are higher than hd2 specifications (impossible port)
Hmm, so these are the official specs?
From what I have understood while searching info about the Nexus One touchscreen issue, HTC has used the ClearPad 2000 touchscreens in their devices till now, which have only 2 finger limit. The ClearPad 3000 has a 10 fingers limit.
I don't know if the HD2 has the same ClearPad 2000 or not, but if it does not, that is one thing missing right? (correct me please if I am not right, but I think it says 4 finger is the minimum requirement)
Second, it says 'camera button required' from what I think to have seen. We do not have that.
Third, 8 GB flash... again, don't know about that.
Anyway, looks like it's MIX10 and we still do not have an official answer on if the HD2 will get 7 Series OS or not. I'm fine with it... and I think my future Desire is smiling as well
Anyway, 7 Series looks good. They did give us some nice new info about the OS.
XDA mark said:
Hmm, so these are the official specs?
From what I have understood while searching info about the Nexus One touchscreen issue, HTC has used the ClearPad 2000 touchscreens in their devices till now, which have only 2 finger limit. The ClearPad 3000 has a 10 fingers limit.
I don't know if the HD2 has the same ClearPad 2000 or not, but if it does not, that is one thing missing right? (correct me please if I am not right, but I think it says 4 finger is the minimum requirement)
Second, it says 'camera button required' from what I think to have seen. We do not have that.
Third, 8 GB flash... again, don't know about that.
Anyway, looks like it's MIX10 and we still do not have an official answer on if the HD2 will get 7 Series OS or not. I'm fine with it... and I think my future Desire is smiling as well
Anyway, 7 Series looks good. They did give us some nice new info about the OS.
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we are fu**ed (hd2 owners ) with these specifications ,no way we could get it nither officia nor leaked , most of the specifications are not included in hd2 ( camera button , direct x9 , 4 point multitouch ,etc )iam so sad and disapointed my new toy is fuc**n old now wtf. what a short aged device ,i will go for desire tomorrow inspite of the big loss in money
Apparently according to http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/windows-mobile/
windowsmobile 7 will not be possible to be run on the HD2 as it has 5 buttons and not 3 as required under the microsoft mandate for new win 7 mobiles.
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Apparently according to http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/windows-mobile/
windowsmobile 7 will not be possible to be run on the HD2 as it has 5 buttons and not 3 as required under the microsoft mandate for new win 7 mobiles.
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Really?
Are you sure?
Are you so sure that you had to make a thread about it?
Are you so sure that you had to let us know about this groundbreaking fact?
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I feel like such a jerk for being so mean and sarcastic, but I feel like no one reads forums or search for a sec before posting a new thread...
Yup, no official upgrade to WinMo7, seems like a long shot but HTC could make a mod that allowed you to swap the current 5 buttons with a 3 button strip and then disable 2 of the buttons pads underneath?
Just a weird thought lol.
another issue is that winmo 7 will not support external SD Cards...it has to be internal SD Card or flash memory...
that means you are stuck with the 512 MB Rom which sucks butts.
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Really?
Are you sure?
Are you so sure that you had to make a thread about it?
Are you so sure that you had to let us know about this groundbreaking fact?
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I feel like such a jerk for being so mean and sarcastic, but I feel like no one reads forums or search for a sec before posting a new thread...
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I do understand your point Rickyoon but if I had all day to be searching the site then I would. Besides, so many threads are started and are then washed down the line (I can't even find this post now and I only posted it an hour ago).
What harm does it do? I have already had several replies and several watching so somebody is interested in what I have to say....even if it isn't you. Shall we not read your posts? Shall we denigrate what you have to say? If we did we would all be as bad as you wouldn't we?
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I do understand your point Rickyoon but if I had all day to be searching the site then I would. Besides, so many threads are started and are then washed down the line (I can't even find this post now and I only posted it an hour ago).
What harm does it do? I have already had several replies and several watching so somebody is interested in what I have to say....even if it isn't you. Shall we not read your posts? Shall we denigrate what you have to say? If we did we would all be as bad as you wouldn't we?
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It does not do anybody any harm, you are right.
But really mate, this has been posted like at least tens of times. And it is old, old news. Yesterday it was even OFFICIALLY announced by MS that the HD2 will not get an upgrade. See pocketnow.com for more info.
Reasons we do not get the upgrade *copy's own post again*:
People do not seem to understand why the HD2 is not getting 7 Series OS:
- FIRST OF ALL, the minimum 'fingers' requirement that must work at ONE moment on the touchscreen, is 4. HTC has been using the ClearPad 2000 till now (I found that out while searching for info on the Nexus One touchscreen bug). The ClearPAd 2000 only sees/works with 2 fingers at a time. Not 4. The future ClearPad 3000 will support 10 fingers.
So this may be one of the major reasons the HD2 does not get 7 Series OS. I still do not know for sure if the HD2 uses the same ClearPad 2000 touchscreen as the Nexus One.
- NO SD CARD. Do we have 8GB internal memory? Nope.
- The picture I saw over at XDA that showed what the minimum requirements are, showed 'CAMERA BUTTON REQUIRED'. Do we have that? No.
- And last but not least.. we do not have the 3 dedicated hardware buttons (no search).
So really, this is not just because of one button.
Anyway, bad news for my HD2, good news for my future HTC Desire
BTW, 7 Series does look beastly IMO. There are going to be some amazing apps on that OS.
I cant believe Samsung just revamped their Symbian i8910 model, rebadged some buttons and loaded Winmo7.....
What in the world is going on??
Nevermind, eh?
Will 2 finger multitouch ever be good on WP7 on the HD2? I noticed the multitouch driver on WP7 is not as good as the Android version. On Android it's possible to press one finger on the screen and after that the second and they are both registered correctly. In my observation the multitouch on WP7 for the HD2 works like WinMo 6.5. You have to touch the sceen with both fingers at the same time or it will not recognize multitouch. (Or dualtouch in this case.)
On a native WP7 device there is 4 point multitouch I believe...so the best multitouch for the HD2 would be like Android where you don't have to touch the sceen at the same time.
I tested the game 'Cell' where they there's a message 'Touch screen with 3 fingers to goto main menu'...which will never be possible on an HD2 because of the hardware limitations of the touchscreen.
Sjuust said:
Will 2 finger multitouch ever be good on WP7 on the HD2? I noticed the multitouch driver on WP7 is not as good as the Android version. On Android it's possible to press one finger on the screen and after that the second and they are both registered correctly. In my observation the multitouch on WP7 for the HD2 works like WinMo 6.5. You have to touch the sceen with both fingers at the same time or it will not recognize multitouch. (Or dualtouch in this case.)
On a native WP7 device there is 4 point multitouch I believe...so the best multitouch for the HD2 would be like Android where you don't have to touch the sceen at the same time.
I tested the game 'Cell' where they there's a message 'Touch screen with 3 fingers to goto main menu'...which will never be possible on an HD2 because of the hardware limitations of the touchscreen.
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooo..... i hope that you're wrong and that this is a software problem
check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5974306#post5974306
orangekid said:
check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5974306#post5974306
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While the HD2 may have multi-point touch, that post means nothing.
This would be the same HTC support that told people an official WP7 update would be coming, and other various nonsense over the years.
I would be very surprised if the peons on the support desk know the finer technical nuances of the hardware.
elyl said:
While the HD2 may have multi-point touch, that post means nothing.
This would be the same HTC support that told people an official WP7 update would be coming, and other various nonsense over the years.
I would be very surprised if the peons on the support desk know the finer technical nuances of the hardware.
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this thread was made by me along time ago , i'm happy some people still remember it , and about that these info may be not true , i asked htc in 4 different regions (us , france , germany , uk ) and they all confirmed that the 2 point are software limitation , and about wp7 , it was going to be released but microsoft changed their standards and mind , that is all
Hi,
Do you think that is possible to replace touchscreen driver files by thoses contained in the htc léo 08787 patch for wm6.5 ?
Tx
Impossible. WP7 has a completely different driver architecture.
hoss_n2 said:
this thread was made by me along time ago , i'm happy some people still remember it , and about that these info may be not true , i asked htc in 4 different regions (us , france , germany , uk ) and they all confirmed that the 2 point are software limitation , and about wp7 , it was going to be released but microsoft changed their standards and mind , that is all
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Today I tested the HD2 multitouch touchscreen with a game called "Knots" which you need to touch the balls on the screen, and there are more than 2 balls on the screen... and guess! It doesn't work! Only for the 2 first balls. I think people from HTC are wrong when they say that is the software limits the true multitouch when I think it's the hardware that does it.
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Today I tested the HD2 multitouch touchscreen with a game called "Knots" which you need to touch the balls on the screen, and there are more than 2 balls on the screen... and guess! It doesn't work! Only for the 2 first balls. I think people from HTC are wrong when they say that is the software limits the true multitouch when I think it's the hardware that does it.
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I agree, i'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue. There will never be more than 2 point multitouch on the hd2... the capacitive touch controller the HD2 uses doesn't support more than 2 points. But, hopefully the drivers right now can be improved to make the 2 point touch work better than what it does right now.
zarathustrax said:
I agree, i'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue. There will never be more than 2 point multitouch on the hd2... the capacitive touch controller the HD2 uses doesn't support more than 2 points. But, hopefully the drivers right now can be improved to make the 2 point touch work better than what it does right now.
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i concur, my friend's htc wildfire can do more than 2 fingers on xpiano but when i tried it on my hd2 android, only 2 notes can be pressed simultaneously. do you know if desire or dhd can do more than 2?
Idhor Naergon said:
Today I tested the HD2 multitouch touchscreen with a game called "Knots" which you need to touch the balls on the screen, and there are more than 2 balls on the screen... and guess! It doesn't work! Only for the 2 first balls. I think people from HTC are wrong when they say that is the software limits the true multitouch when I think it's the hardware that does it.
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zarathustrax said:
I agree, i'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue. There will never be more than 2 point multitouch on the hd2... the capacitive touch controller the HD2 uses doesn't support more than 2 points. But, hopefully the drivers right now can be improved to make the 2 point touch work better than what it does right now.
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domon07 said:
i concur, my friend's htc wildfire can do more than 2 fingers on xpiano but when i tried it on my hd2 android, only 2 notes can be pressed simultaneously. do you know if desire or dhd can do more than 2?
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If the right driver is not there, you will not get more than 2 finger multi-touch.
What you guys are saying does not prove it's a hardware limitation at all. Android doesn't have any app/game that uses 4 point, so of course the driver isn't there, but the device may still be hardware capable.
You guys need to understand that drivers affect how the software interacts with the hardware, and without correctly written drivers hardware won't work.
If it is not a hardware limitation, then who's going to write the drivers?
Has anyone ever managed to engineer a fully functional driver for, well, anything on XDA? I remember for the Kaiser there were multiple people trying to make a proper graphics driver and there was never a truly 100% functional one. We weren't able to provide TMC access to the radio on the HD2 - and that was on the native WM6.5
I wouldn't hold my breath for a new driver. Writing a driver for a piece of hardware we have absolutely no documentation on is hard enough. Couple that with writing for a brand new OS and it looks even less likely.
I'd be ecstatic to be proved wrong, though.
i like people who say its impossible !!!
cotulla is one of the people who can say impossible is nothing...
and i just belive in the future cotulla make lot of kids and give them his experience...
and we can have lot of PRO developers in the future
becouse for Russian people everithing is possible...
just need trink Vodka rulezz...
just support it..
Hi Guys,
I bought fruit ninja off Marketplace the other day. Some times it does register two slices on the screen. So it's most probably just a driver issue. 2 point Multitouch was enabled for Wm65 and this will eventually get to WP7 aswell. So be patient
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If the right driver is not there, you will not get more than 2 finger multi-touch.
What you guys are saying does not prove it's a hardware limitation at all. Android doesn't have any app/game that uses 4 point, so of course the driver isn't there, but the device may still be hardware capable.
You guys need to understand that drivers affect how the software interacts with the hardware, and without correctly written drivers hardware won't work.
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It is a hardware limitation... ask any dev that has worked with touch drivers for the HD2. I can't remember exactly what touch sensor the hd2 has, but I know it's one that is only capable of 2 points touch. There was a lot of research done on this both when the hd2 first came out and they were developing multitouch sdk for the hd2, and when they were developing the linux kernel/android for the hd2 and cotulla had to write the touchscreen driver for it. The HD2 is not capable of more than 2 point multitouch.
HTC even made a big deal when the next gen devices came out (I think starting with the EVO) that they were using a new touch sensor that was capable of more than 2 point multitouch, which they never used on prior devices.
Imo, no or maybe yes! Yesterday i got my new HD7... multitouching is REALLY good.. On HD2 is harware limitation or something..
probably kernel related.
This might help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878936
I do not understand how LG Optimus P920 3D Optimus, Optimus 2X, Optimus Mach LU3000, Black Optimus, Optimus Me P350, Revolution... working on OS Android , LG E900 Optimus7 can not, which is the difference and reason that can not be installed on Android optimus7
No one said it cannot be done. It can probably be done, seeing how all WP7 devices share similar hardware to the HTC Desire-derivative phones. However, the LG Optimus 7 is a Windows Phone, and ships with Windows Phone 7 as its operating system. That is the end of it. All the phones you mentioned from LG come with Android as its operating system. I suggest if you prefer Android to WP7, do not bother with LG Optimus 7.
PS: I tried to answer this as calmly as possibly without breaking my keyboard...
Ok kapanak I am not asked to crush keyboard than you actually did not ask anything, if I want Android and Android will buy, I just wondered if anyone could give me a explanation may which is the difference because I see that some LG phone using Android and I wondered why LG E900 Optimus 7 does not. ate different from the others and uses a different hardware. The LG E900 is the perfect Optimus 7 phone who currently use and we changed it from any other phone.
IMHO I think this is politic of LG and many companies. One phone is with Android other one with WP7. Everybody have a choice. I like Android, I use HTC Desire but bought LG Swift 7 (Optimus 7) to test WP7 and make compare betwen Android and WP7.
LG can assembly the same model of phone to Android and to WP7 but marketing is cruel. More phones will sell with Android neither WP7 (at this moment). And LG will do more phones with AND but there is possible to install WP7.
This is my point of view.
I love my Optimus 7 but it would be great if we had the option to dual boot between WP7 and Android. I wonder when someone finds out how to do it.
Currently there are only 2 phones available that can dual boot different OS's:
1. The Nokia N900 can run Maemo, Android and MeeGo.
2. The HTC HD2 can run WM6.5, Android, WP7 and MeeGo.
The only phone that offers 2 different OS's at the SAME time is the HD2 with WP7 or WP6.5 on Nand and Android on SD as secondary OS.
So if you want such stuff you should go for a HD2.
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No one said it cannot be done. It can probably be done, seeing how all WP7 devices share similar hardware to the HTC Desire-derivative phones. However, the LG Optimus 7 is a Windows Phone, and ships with Windows Phone 7 as its operating system. That is the end of it. All the phones you mentioned from LG come with Android as its operating system. I suggest if you prefer Android to WP7, do not bother with LG Optimus 7.
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Why does it have to be either/or? I would like the option to dual boot.
Im always surprised by how much flak this type of question gets on XDA, a forum for hardware hacking and independent software development... Why do i want to flash my phone with android? Because hardware hacking is FUN, and just to say I did it. Not because either android or WP7 is better. If the E900 was an android phone id be interested in flashing it to WP7...
What you fail to grasp is the sheer amount of work required to port Android for a phone that didn't support it in the first place. In the case of WM, it was easy, since XDA members hacked the life out of every one of those phones. There has to be someone willing to spend the time porting Android for this phone. But so far, no one is willing. Of you are up for the challenge, the perhaps you should begin your work, and I am sure once a person begins to show progress, other devs and hackers will follow.
Thanks for being condescending but i fully grasp the amount of work required. Im not asking why its not done, i was simply stating its pretty ridiculous how much people here crap on someone for asking. Do you honestly thing if anyone was actually working on it, this would be the place to show their work? I havent seen a single thread where someone proposed flashing different OS's to a WP7 handset that didnt involve at least one person saying "Dont bother". Its almost like WP7 handsets are sacred here and we shouldnt mess with them too much Strange, considering the idea behind this forum...
It may be due to the fact that for years, people here, and elsewhere, have been spending years customizing their phones OS to make it smoother, faster, more intuitive, and then suddenly, we have this new OS that, despite all its obvious and glaring shortcomings, fullfills that need for "speed", and makes the need for customizations and optimizations less than appealing. ( And iOS doesn't count, that's for a different crowd )
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The Problem is not the Hardware (the HD2 uses the same chipset only with lower ram and rom). The problem are the bootloaders. You have to write your own or costumize the original one to allow a 3rd party os. But if somebody know how to extract this files from a lg e900 it would be only a question about some weeks for the first nand android on a lg e900. Because the chipsetdrivers are (theoratically ^^) the same as the HD2 uses.
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The Problem is not the Hardware (the HD2 uses the same chipset only with lower ram and rom). The problem are the bootloaders. You have to write your own or costumize the original one to allow a 3rd party os. But if somebody know how to extract this files from a lg e900 it would be only a question about some weeks for the first nand android on a lg e900. Because the chipsetdrivers are (theoratically ^^) the same as the HD2 uses.
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Got to wait for MAGLDR on optimus 7 then ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfUBo6bzXZ0
kapanak said:
No one said it cannot be done. It can probably be done, seeing how all WP7 devices share similar hardware to the HTC Desire-derivative phones. However, the LG Optimus 7 is a Windows Phone, and ships with Windows Phone 7 as its operating system. That is the end of it. All the phones you mentioned from LG come with Android as its operating system. I suggest if you prefer Android to WP7, do not bother with LG Optimus 7.
PS: I tried to answer this as calmly as possibly without breaking my keyboard...
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i read this post and said lolwut, but yea, it would be great if this phone could get an android port, it does have good potential.
Running WP7: Mango Beta Build 7712
$AUD179 (unlocked), the LG Optimus 7 ... but Android?
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Got to wait for MAGLDR on optimus 7 then ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfUBo6bzXZ0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2BDMnYMe5E&feature=related
GINGERBREAD now on my old HD2.
This link is offering $AUD179 (unlocked), the LG Optimus 7 Windows Smartphone:
http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smallfish_info.php?products_id=45298
Better camera, a camera button that does not jolt the camera focus. I'd like to dual boot, cos Android has better third party apps, & more freeware. When I dare upgrade Android, sometimes it puts my phone offline for days, until a solution is found.
I think Android can be ported to Optimus 7 ... there are many Android phones with nearly identical hardware ...
Probably it still needs a minimum effort, so you need to find someone willing to spend his time doing such a thing ...
Btw I think the topic 'how to have windows phone on the possible higher number of devices' is much more interesting than 'how to port Crappoid on our devices'
What I meant to say is : If I was able to, I still would not have spare time for such a 'task'
Hi guys!
I know there are quite a few posts like this but haven't found one yet reguarding the phones I am looking at so...
My HD2 is starting to get a little boring (working fine thou) so thinking of changing it! My requirements for a replacement are: Windows Phone native device (no Android device running a ported WP ROM or anything) and a full hardware QWERTY keyboard! Aparently that is quite hard to come by... The two devices that look best to me are: Dell Venue Pro and HTC 7 Pro
Thoughts?
/Anders
There's a device suggestion thread in the General forum where you'll get far more replies. You're going to struggle if you need a physical keyboard, no high-end WP8 phone will have one AFAIK.
Nigeldg said:
There's a device suggestion thread in the General forum where you'll get far more replies. You're going to struggle if you need a physical keyboard, no high-end WP8 phone will have one AFAIK.
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Oh thanks I didn't see that one before! Yeah I am starting to see that physical keyboards are a hard thing to come by today Even on Android the line-up is limited...
In the unlikely case that RIM succeed with bb10, you might still have some luck. However I think there's not much of a future in hardware keyboards.
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A bluetooth keyboard may be your answer, you can get ones attached to a phone case which slides out.
Do they work on Windows Phone? They don't on 7.8 I can verify but don't know about 8?