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I mean really! Do you think its coming

Do you really think that WP7 is coming to the HD2. you would have to assign the buttons again. you would need a dedicated search button, a camera button so engadget says. my views are that WP7 aint comin.

Engadget lost its credibility a long time ago.

with long time using htc phones i think it is not coming (remember hd1)

10076757 said:
Do you really think that WP7 is coming to the HD2. you would have to assign the buttons again. you would need a dedicated search button, a camera button so engadget says. my views are that WP7 aint comin.
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The HD2 doesn't have the search button and no Cam button... So what!
it can run 6.5.. without those buttons.. and we all know its possible to run wp7 on it..
So the posibility is there...
only thing is that HTC and Microsoft should agree to give us an update..
@HTC come on you've charged us +550 euro for this phone and no upgrade??
so if its about $$$$, I think the upgrade to wm7 is allready integrated in the +550 price..

hoss_n2 said:
with long time using htc phones i think it is not coming (remember hd1)
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It may not come from HTC but it will come... The Tytn2/Kaiser's latest official release was WM6.1 and there are many many WM6.5 custom ROM's on this forum for it

For the required buttons story, remember that for WM 6.5, it was "required" to have a hardware start button, yet the omnia II lives perfectly without any...
It can happen, and i really would like it to happen, but only time will tell, and so will MIX next month, i hope...

I heard from a tweet by HTC Russia that yes, is comming to HD2

at this point who really cares . with touchXperience coming our way this will blow away the (zune HD) windows 7 phone. it was desperate move by MS , and they havent brought anything new to the mobile community , just their version of catching up with others and what has already been done ( out there )
its zune with a few new things IMO .
but again , its just my opinion and i am happy with my tricked out HD2 .

It'll happen, though maybe not officially, and that is might be a GOOD thing!
I cannot help but wonder that if there were an "official" WP7 ROM update, there'd also be a greater likelihood that HTC could do "something" to it to prevent HSPL, etc. and restrict our use of cooked ROMs. We all know that they know what is going on over here, and they are none too happy about it, but who cares?
No, I'll just wait until our wonderful resident chef's cook something up, which if history teaches us anything, is going to be a lot SOONER than HTC will deliver anything anyway. No worries. It's coming. One way, or another.
The question is whether we'll actually want it.

hmm all this crap**** about missing buttons is a whole load of BS (sorry the choice of words but i cant find any othe that fit better )
A OS can NOT Tell what the graphical picture/sign ontop of a button looks like and actually it couldnt give a **** about that pic, or have you seen an OS where a Webcam is needed so it can "see" what pic is on the button? Well i havent. . A programmed line in th code tells the OS that that button has this or that function. So could we please get past all this stupid, senseless nagging and moaning please?????
Windows 7 Mobile needs 3 Buttons, whoopie that means we have 2 free to reassign/rip out and throw away or whatever.
Anyway untill Win7Mob ever comes out to the market, then and only then will we be able to say what goes and what not.
Well, thats my 5c worth to all these win7mob threads popping out all over the place..

HD2 will NOT get an update to WP7 - confirmed at MIX10!

UPDATE!! Looks like this was not true and there will be no WP7 for HD2 at all.
There is still hope, you can help deciphering & hacking WP7 image:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647138
(if you really want WP7S on your beloved HD2, for me this whole new OS looks more like EPIC FAIL)
Hi,
I have just got an 'inside' information from a person close to MIX10 and I think it is pretty legitimate.
HD2 is going to get WP7 update, but in a bit different way that you may think. Soon after the conference MS will distribute unfinished, pre-release WP7 image that will be intended for devlopers, so they can test their apps on real hardware before proper devices are available (in the end of the year). Obviously because HD2 is the only device at the moment - and will be for a long time - that meets hardware requirements of WP7, this image will be intended for it.
It is still unclear if final, 'production' WP7 version will be released for HD2 when new OS is launched, but even if that is not the case, I am sure that chiefs will be able to somehow mix both versions together
According to my source this will be announced very, very soon at MIX10!

We can only hope i suppose =/

aszu said:
Hi,
I have just got an 'inside' information from a person close to MIX10 and I think it is pretty legitimate.
HD2 is going to get WP7 update, but in a bit different way that you may think. Soon after the conference MS will distribute unfinished, pre-release WP7 image that will be intended for devlopers, so they can test their apps on real hardware before proper devices are available (in the end of the year). Obviously because HD2 is the only device at the moment - and will be for a long time - that meets hardware requirements of WP7, this image will be intended for it.
It is still unclear if final, 'production' WP7 version will be released for HD2 when new OS is launched, but even if that is not the case, I am sure that chiefs will be able to somehow mix both versions together
According to my source this will be announced very, very soon at MIX10!
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this is no thing , i cannot see any confirmation here please change your thread title

hoss_n2 said:
this is no thing , i cannot see any confirmation here please change your thread title
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Well, as I said, my 'source' seems to be pretty legitimate, but I agree. Title changed.

Makes pretty good sense, actually. It fits with all the 'wait for MIX10' answers to questions about the HD2 right after the WP7 announcement in Barcelona.

aszu said:
Well, as I said, my 'source' seems to be pretty legitimate, but I agree. Title changed.
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now it is better

lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft

May just be me but the WP7 posts are getting a little bit boring and shouldn't they be in there Windows Phone 7 Series forum? Rather than having multi threads on essentially the same things.

Plus we get to buy all our apps . . . again.

Let's hope for a port anyway, whether official or not...

I'd like to believe you, but the MS devs were raving about the emulator that comes with the Phone developer tools... I dunno. Seems iffy but the existence of an emulator does not preclude the HD2 from getting a 'MIX' build - after all, you need to have the emulator around for a variety of reasons, namely the HD2 won't be available forever

im also watching mix10 and as far as i remember i heared somthing like "all of you who will have an wp7s device at the end of the conference".
could be the special dev-phone, as some folks guess, but i think an hd2 rom is the easiest and the most logical solution.
So i "guess" its possible. and by the way, i excpected silverlight for mobile for months and now its there and i like it.

Well these are the hardware specs, we don't meet the 'flash' space unless it counts SD.
I can't find any info on the Snapdragon GPU specs to see whether its DX9 or not!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=294244&d=1268681600

lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft

Frostlance said:
lol WP7S SUX BIG TIME...
no multitask.. what a joke microsoft
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So you already said on the 1st page...

Multitasking from the emulator itself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5889815

mazzarin said:
Well these are the hardware specs, we don't meet the 'flash' space unless it counts SD.
I can't find any info on the Snapdragon GPU specs to see whether its DX9 or not!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=294244&d=1268681600
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Those hardware specs are basically the snapdragon specs with some ancillary stuff. Snapdragon includes the AMD z430, based on the 360s XENOS. Most confirmed WP7 devices are using snapdragon thus I expect the z430 will not be left out as far as directx9 support goes. It supports openGL es 2.0 so it has a unified pixel and vertex arch. I really don't think we are going to get an official port. But based on those specs, a hacked port doesn't seem unlikely at all.
PS does anyone know the hardware touch point limit on the HD2s digitizer?

VisualD said:
Those hardware specs are basically the snapdragon specs with some ancillary stuff. Snapdragon includes the AMD z430, based on the 360s XENOS. Most confirmed WP7 devices are using snapdragon thus I expect the z430 will not be left out as far as directx9 support goes. It supports openGL es 2.0 so it has a unified pixel and vertex arch. I really don't think we are going to get an official port. But based on those specs, a hacked port doesn't seem unlikely at all.
PS does anyone know the hardware touch point limit on the HD2s digitizer?
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these specifications are higher than hd2 specifications (impossible port)

Hmm, so these are the official specs?
From what I have understood while searching info about the Nexus One touchscreen issue, HTC has used the ClearPad 2000 touchscreens in their devices till now, which have only 2 finger limit. The ClearPad 3000 has a 10 fingers limit.
I don't know if the HD2 has the same ClearPad 2000 or not, but if it does not, that is one thing missing right? (correct me please if I am not right, but I think it says 4 finger is the minimum requirement)
Second, it says 'camera button required' from what I think to have seen. We do not have that.
Third, 8 GB flash... again, don't know about that.
Anyway, looks like it's MIX10 and we still do not have an official answer on if the HD2 will get 7 Series OS or not. I'm fine with it... and I think my future Desire is smiling as well
Anyway, 7 Series looks good. They did give us some nice new info about the OS.

XDA mark said:
Hmm, so these are the official specs?
From what I have understood while searching info about the Nexus One touchscreen issue, HTC has used the ClearPad 2000 touchscreens in their devices till now, which have only 2 finger limit. The ClearPad 3000 has a 10 fingers limit.
I don't know if the HD2 has the same ClearPad 2000 or not, but if it does not, that is one thing missing right? (correct me please if I am not right, but I think it says 4 finger is the minimum requirement)
Second, it says 'camera button required' from what I think to have seen. We do not have that.
Third, 8 GB flash... again, don't know about that.
Anyway, looks like it's MIX10 and we still do not have an official answer on if the HD2 will get 7 Series OS or not. I'm fine with it... and I think my future Desire is smiling as well
Anyway, 7 Series looks good. They did give us some nice new info about the OS.
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we are fu**ed (hd2 owners ) with these specifications ,no way we could get it nither officia nor leaked , most of the specifications are not included in hd2 ( camera button , direct x9 , 4 point multitouch ,etc )iam so sad and disapointed my new toy is fuc**n old now wtf. what a short aged device ,i will go for desire tomorrow inspite of the big loss in money

Microsoft ad showing HD2 running Windows Mobile 7...!

Guys, check out the new Windows Mobile 7 ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ5gpMf2--w
Check from 00:26 to 00:29. We can clearly see the unmistakable 'htc' logo and the 5 hardware buttons of HD2.

dnwizard said:
Guys, check out the new Windows Mobile 7 ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ5gpMf2--w
Check from 00:26 to 00:29. We can clearly see the unmistakable 'htc' logo and the 5 hardware buttons of HD2.
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it is hd2 but no use of this thread it is confirmed to not have wp7

can't see it... but the lil guy is kinda playing with an HD2!!!

I think your right, it does look like a HD2, of course it doesn't mean ****, as with most advertisements it will all be fabricated, its probably just a HD2 running a video of series 7. Will wind people up nicely though

hoss_n2 said:
it is hd2 but no use of this thread it is confirmed to not have wp7
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Yes, but I was just intrigued to see the new OS running fine even though it lacks some major hardware as per Microsoft.

However on the off chance that it is running something live it does mean there is some form of test rom out there....somewhere. . . . . but i doubt it

Silverlight app.

dnwizard said:
Yes, but I was just intrigued to see the new OS running fine even though it lacks some major hardware as per Microsoft.
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Except that there are 99% chances the phone is actually off and dead or displaying a plain blue screen to allow image blending in postprocessing

i dont think that the pictures you see on the screen are real. usaly such things are made in post production. its much to complicated to film this situations in real life. so i think its no indicator for w7 ore not on hd2 anyhow.
regards mad

As much as I hate to up a not-so-useful thread
The idea is old... there has been a link posted somewhere here on the hd2 forums to a MS stage or something (and that was at least a month ago), where an infomercial for WM7 was done with a girl holding to her ear what definitely looked like an hd2, or at least a photoshopped one.
That doesn't bring you anywhere, since we have had different news elsewhere from an "official" source (check the other thread reagrding it) saying othrwise that WM7 will not be for hd2.
Anyhow, if you are so desperate to install a MS iphoneos wannabe on your already perfectly working WM6.5 hd2, I think there will be for sure a cooked rom with WM7 sooner or later. Afterall they are selling on aftermarket qtek 2020 alpines with winmo 6.5 on them....

It's Bill Gates, pissing in our collective ear: "Nyah, nyah; that'll teach you fellas to have two extra buttons".

to me is not looking like HD2 but if it's indeed HD2 for sure will be a rom for it here

More Likely To Happen First....WP7 or Android?

I'm sorry HD2 lovers but although Windows OS is pretty custimizable its CLEARLY a VERY OLD OS that I just cant get that into. So my question is this and your answers really depend on whether I decide to keep the phone or not. What is more Likely to happen first
-Fully Working WP7
-Semi Working Android(ie: broken wifi,bluetooth, camera etc...)

Hum! its hard to say... But I am sure that when either of those come out, its going to be a P.O.S.

I wouldn't keep my hopes up on either, but im thinking WP7 might be the easier port.
If you really don't like WM6.5, return it and get an android device. By the time WP7 is out there will likely be much better hardware out with it officially installed.
Qualcomm has dual core and 1.5ghz snapdragons in the pipeline for later this year, im sure there will be many WP7 phones with them.
On the other hand if you're a WM fan like myself, stick with the HD2 because its probably the best hardware that WM will ever be officially released on.
It would be interesting to see HTC do an official android release for the HD2. There are no licensing issues why they couldn't, just have to spend some time to do it, or at least give the enthusiast community the needed drivers and other know how to get it working so we're not reinventing the wheel. you know they've probably already got it working in shop.

@ OP
Use the SEARCH link.
WP7 port was done a couple of months ago. Android may take a loooong time or it may not even happen if we get a flurry of hi end devices running android on all 4 major carriers.

kcaj32 said:
@ OP
Use the SEARCH link.
WP7 port was done a couple of months ago. Android may take a loooong time or it may not even happen if we get a flurry of hi end devices running android on all 4 major carriers.
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No, there is no legitimate port currently.

kcaj32 said:
@ OP
Use the SEARCH link.
WP7 port was done a couple of months ago. Android may take a loooong time or it may not even happen if we get a flurry of hi end devices running android on all 4 major carriers.
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Last I head that "port" was a scam, it was someone using the remote desktop client in WM6.5 to connect to a remote emulator running WP7

kcaj32 said:
@ OP
Use the SEARCH link.
WP7 port was done a couple of months ago. Android may take a loooong time or it may not even happen if we get a flurry of hi end devices running android on all 4 major carriers.
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what tom said was a big fake ,it was not ported to hd2 ,may be the russians have lied to him as i personally don't think he will make a thing like that

vampsandbats said:
I'm sorry HD2 lovers but although Windows OS is pretty custimizable its CLEARLY a VERY OLD OS that I just cant get that into. So my question is this and your answers really depend on whether I decide to keep the phone or not. What is more Likely to happen first
-Fully Working WP7
-Semi Working Android(ie: broken wifi,bluetooth, camera etc...)
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This is the 3rd time i'e seen this exact same question posted. Either one will be at least 6 months-1 year away.... maybe more.... so if you don't like WinMo, I suggest getting a different phone. Personally, I think WinMo is the best OS out there for mobile devices and I am glad to have what will probably be the best WinMo phone of all time since there won't be many more winmo phones made.

My bad. You guys are right. I saw the news for the port but didn't follow up about it being fake.
I still think WP7 will be ported first.
With all the Android Superphones coming out (EVO [sprint], Droid X, Incredible [verizon], Galaxy S [t-mobile], Captivate [ATT]), its easier to buy a new device than use a ported ROM on the HD2.

I think we're more likely to see a windows 7 Shell similiar to how HTC Sense is on the HD2 before any fully working windows phone 7 ports are done. Although the hardware on the HD2 is pretty much as impressive as anything available now the fact is that, just as with computer parts it will be considered "not fast enough" when windows 7 phones are actually released.
I'm 26 years old and had my first pc in 1994. it was a packard bell and ran at 600 Mhz with 128MB or ram and a 40 GB HD. My HD2 is faster than my first pc ever was and it is about 20x smaller. Anyone else think about these sort of things and really marvel at the pace technology is moving?
The wife and I were in the food store the other day waiting in line behind some lady paying for groceries with a check. My wife was *****ing to me that people are crazy that still carry around paper checkbooks. I told her that when we're older and probably holding up a line with our surgically implanted RFID chips to pay for groceries, some youngsters will be complaining about us not using retinal scans so we can be done quicker..LOL.

Anyone gonna try to make Windows 7 ROM?

Now that WM7 has been released as of today - is there anyone out here that's going to try to get it to work with our beloved HD2's ???

The WM7 project was killed 2 years ago, so I doubt it was released today.
Are you referring to Windows Phone 7?

obviously...

tai4de2 said:
The WM7 project was killed 2 years ago, so I doubt it was released today.
Are you referring to Windows Phone 7?
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Is there ever really a need for that? If you don't have anything constructive or
productive to add to somebody's question then don't bother replying. You and your smug attitude should find another spot to troll. I hear the Engadget comment
section is a haven for trolls. Go be among your own kind.
@TechnoHippie I'm glad you asked, that's what I came here for today. I would
love WP7 on my HD2. Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy Android, I just
can't take this incessant battery drain anymore.

Good question i wouldnt mind trying it out but your too early i believe, i doubt we will see WP7 ports to the HD2 till maybe WP7 phones are released its not as simple as throwing on a rom i believe microsoft built from scratch with WP7 and so the ports to the HD2 if they happen will probably be much like the android builds currently test and fix type of things

I want my windows mobile 7 on my hd2
I WANT MY WINDOWS MOBILE 7 ON MY HD2
I WANT MY WINDOWS MOBILE 7 ON MY HD2
I WANT MY WINDOWS MOBILE 7 ON MY HD2
I WANT MY WINDOWS MOBILE 7 ON MY HD2
Come on guys, you can do it... PUULEEZZZ

I will donate for who develop a WM7 ROM for sure.

Okay people seriously, STOP REVIVEING THESE WP7 ROM THREADS WITH USELESS INFORMATION.

It will be made when its made... no reason to beg. Don't get your hopes up about wp7 on hd2 ... it may not even be able to use market or any of its cloud support if it does got ported, as the devs who have been working on it said that wp7 devices have a unique code that lets Microsoft's servers know its an authentic device. We may not be able to get around that on a wp7 port.
I don't see the big deal about wp7 anyways... I'd rather use winmo and android myself.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

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It will be made when its made... no reason to beg. Don't get your hopes up about wp7 on hd2 ... it may not even be able to use market or any of its cloud support if it does got ported, as the devs who have been working on it said that wp7 devices have a unique code that lets Microsoft's servers know its an authentic device. We may not be able to get around that on a wp7 port.
I don't see the big deal about wp7 anyways... I'd rather use winmo and android myself.
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I would of agree with you but winmo with Android still needs a lot of work to be satisfied about!!!

stinkfist462 said:
Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy Android, I just can't take this incessant battery drain anymore.
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Which build are you using? There are a few builds out there that are very stable and are phenomenal with battery life.

MS is totally controlling this thing... sucks...

Wich build are you talking about?

stinkfist462 said:
Is there ever really a need for that? If you don't have anything constructive or
productive to add to somebody's question then don't bother replying. You and your smug attitude should find another spot to troll. I hear the Engadget comment
section is a haven for trolls. Go be among your own kind.
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It gets real tiresome wading through thread after thread of doofuses asking the same DUMB questions over and over... and it's even worse when said doofuses asking said dumb questions can't even be bothered to get past their own ignorance about even the name of the product.
Also I see you are a hypocrite, since you added nothing "productive" to this thread except "yeah, me too!" and yet you felt the need not only to post (contradicting your own admonition), but to pass judgments. You can piss right off!

KruseLudsMobile said:
I WANT MY WINDOWS MOBILE 7 ON MY HD2
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Well, you will NEVER get it. Windows Mobile 7 has not existed for quite some time, since the project was apparently canceled, in favor of a new product known as Windows Phone 7.

Dude he prob was trying to make sure they was talking about the same thing

Well not to kill his dream but WP7 is comming to the HTC HD2 Soon. Here look at the post. It was posted just Yesterday. Looks like your dream will come true.
http://www.xda-developers.com/windo...-hd2-is-beginning-to-look-like-a-reality-but/