With android under attack from all sides, including microsoft, apple, and rim, who are now joining together to try to kill of android because of the threat it presents to them, can it survive in it's present 'free' state?
The latest blow came from the 6000 patents bought from nortel by a consortium of companies led my apple and microsoft, who are no doubt going to add these patents to their list of lawsuits against google and it's partners, i.e. any company that produces android handsets.
microsoft is already trying to get $15/handset from samsung.
Their goal is to make android so costly to google and the handset manufacturers that they will effectively kill it off.
dont worry google will win they are more powerfull
Google is doing a good work, don´t worry.
I think Google is powerfull enough to cover the $15 per device for Samsung. I mean Samsung have made Android bigger than it allready is......
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Ya, seems everyone is out to stop Google. I think they have a plan in place and maybe even as early as fall, with the launch of ICS, they'll reveal that plan. I would say that they have so far reassured their manufacturing partners that they have a plan in place to put these failing dinosaurs in thier places. Otherwise, most of them would be abandoning android.
Maybe Google is taking a closer look at Bing, would be too funny if they charged ms a couple bucks per search if they found something infringing.
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I think these patents are only enforcable in the US. Every other country doesn't have these patents. So the $15 is only for phones sold in the US by Samsung.
What funny is that apple microsoft and intel can't sue each other because they bought it as a consortium. I'm not worried that google will find a way around this, considering that the android platform is the best out there.
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Canadian government still has to approve the sale of the Nortel patents though...it would be nice if it was not approved..
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I don't think ANYBODY can mess with google!
My droid eatz blackberry and apple pie.....so there is no danger
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Think web os would go down before android
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There is a difference between asking $15/handset and getting it. Additionally, I doubt Microsoft is serious about the number and is more likely attempting to licensing a large patent agreement with Google that would cover more than phones and only using this as leverage.
Google could just buy RIM and by doing so get the Nortel patents anyway.
It could also ask partner companies to cross licence for android products which will not only strengthen the patent portfolio but will also protect the android platform and in doing so help out both Google and its partners. HTC and Samsung and Google should have formed a consortium to buy the Nortel patents but by Google's bidding pattern looks like they weren't really interested.
The patent sale as been approuved by both Canadian and American Gouverments. Damn!
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But yh with the 3 other major platforms, Microsoft, Apple and RIM all bidding to keep Google out shows how all 3 view android as a great threat. Microsoft and Apple are hardly best pals but against Google they joined the partnership. Microsoft was already immune from the patents as its already paid the license to fee to Nortel to use them, so even if Google got the patents they wouldn't have had to pay any royalties. Their bid was a tactical one.
This may be a stupid question but would Google have a patent on the pull down notification bar that Apple is now ripping off?
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This may be a stupid question but would Google have a patent on the pull down notification bar that Apple is now ripping off?
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I wondered this, all the updates they have in iOS 5 are just copied from android. It's stupid.
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As far as Android remains open it is really hard to die, even google could die but the source is for all, including apple and MS if they want.
microsoft is always a loser
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As far as Android remains open it is really hard to die, even google could die but the source is for all, including apple and MS if they want.
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But without Google support and company like Samsung, Motorola, HTC etc making phones I doubt that Android could go very far... Very sad.
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these are tough time we're living.. we might lose one of our life's luxury, Android. without Android, everything is locked; you can't do this, you can't do that. Android OS frees your life, free as in freedom to do anything you want with it.
Apple will never stop Android. I actually think they arent't even interested on that. I know it's very annoying to see those news about lawsuits against android and/or devices with android os. This concernes all of us but I think it is importat, especially at this times of turmoil, to take this more objektively. Also, it is important to stay rational and don't let feelings control our reactions. Only now we'll be able to understand these happenings. I hope some of you will get what I'm trying to say
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Apple will never stop Android. I actually think they arent't even interested on that. I know it's very annoying to see those news about lawsuits against android and/or devices with android os. This concernes all of us but I think it is importat, especially at this times of turmoil, to take this more objektively. Also, it is important to stay rational and don't let feelings control our reactions. Only now we'll be able to understand these happenings. I hope some of you will get what I'm trying to say
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and how are you so sure?
no matter how ridiculous Apple patents are, they will win one way or another. even though they won't win 100%, Apple will surely hurt most android manufacturers to the point where they want to stop making android phones. surely you can live with that, right?
Apple doesn't give a s**t about workers dying in Foxcon, what makes you think they will even notice petition? They are US company. If there is 1$ possible profit from anything, they will go for it.
Generally, it's not about Apple, it's about stupid law which allows to protect ****ting in toilet in some fancy way.
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'coz companies need each other to compete. If there wasn't android, apple would be a random company which produces some electro stuff, and less people would recognize the whole smartphone section the way they do it WITH Android, RIM, WP7 and WebOS or Symbian as competing companies. And doesn't this bringing us together? To have a mutual enemy, is far more productive as you might think
It's also a rule of law, that monopol's aren't allowed in business section. People have the right to be able to choose between various options. Just imagine there were only one Car manufacturer, and this would be GM :O!! Idon't even wanna think about that... At least in Germany, don't know how they handle this in other countries. And because of that, I assume Apple isn't interested on destroying Android. And if they do, google would just change the way how patended things on Android OS works and boom...we're out of that game . Google is one of the most innovative company on the Planet or solar system, of course they'll find a way out of this misery. Never underrate Larry Page and his company guys
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I really want to know how the government lets Apple get away with this? I mean for instance didn't Apple just file a patent last year for slide to unlock? How is that legal? How can you just patent something so you can sue other companies? Also I read in the newest lawsuit against the galaxy nexus, they are claiming that Ice Cream sandwich rips off Siri...really? SIRI JUST CAME OUT! Google voice actions for android has been around since what eclair? So Apple is going to rip off Google, file a patent for it, then turnaround and claim they had the idea first and sue google? How does that work?
I really really loathe apple.
Uh the fact of the matter is that Android does infringe on many patents. There's a reason manufacturers pay MS a ton of money to prevent litigation, because they know they'll lose. If OEMs wants patent lawsuits to stop then Google needs to rewrite their OS to stop it from infringing on other people's patents. Deal with it.
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I really want to know how the government lets Apple get away with this? I mean for instance didn't Apple just file a patent last year for slide to unlock? How is that legal? How can you just patent something so you can sue other companies? Also I read in the newest lawsuit against the galaxy nexus, they are claiming that Ice Cream sandwich rips off Siri...really? SIRI JUST CAME OUT! Google voice actions for android has been around since what eclair? So Apple is going to rip off Google, file a patent for it, then turnaround and claim they had the idea first and sue google? How does that work?
I really really loathe apple.
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ummm, siri is not new, but it was originally an excellent app until apple bought it out and limited it to 4gs
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ummm, siri is not new, but it was originally an excellent app until apple bought it out and limited it to 4gs
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Hello smegg dude,
Siri WAS from Google Voice Search. What FAGpple do is,
-They improved the app by adding many fcuked features.
-They improved microphones to synced with the app.
But still, its Google Voice Search, what is FAGpple's default search? MobileMe? Bing? It's Google.
Also, you guys must remember. Processor chips for iPhone is now manufacturered by Samsung.
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These patents really are straight ridiculous, it's clear apple doesn't want to compete they want to be a monopoly. This isn't just apple vs Android this is apple vs blackberry and apple vs windows phone too. Apple wins all this stuff then there will be no competitors, thus creating an apple monopoly. I'm sure it's all a result of them loosing the pc battle to Microsoft in the 90s and being bitter about it but you know what? They wanna destroy Android then make a better product, price more competitively. Take tablets who wants to pay $600 for an ipad when you can get a nook color for $120 refurbished and then root it and put cm7 on and you have a full working tablet!
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Ooh apple
Spread it around
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That is just so childish it is unreal, can you imagine the outcry if they win! Apple seriously need to get a grip! Thanks for sharing :thumbup::thumbup::beer:
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Apple.. what a waste of resources that could be used on androids :/
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This is bad even for Apple fans. They are trying to be a monopoly. Monopolies are no good for the consumer. Very slimy of them to patent such general ideas.
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Very slimy of them to patent such general ideas
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I'm sure someone will come up with prior art to it anyway and make them burn.
The damage however is done - Apple does not care about winning (well maybe a little) but about the news coverage of them suing for copyright infrigment.
Worst case Google has to move Android development to e.g. their r&d center in Switzerland or UK (afaik none of both countries have software patents). US-customers are screwed, not Android.
It is such a childish thing for them to do. Just because android is getting bigger than apple for once.
"... go thermonuclear war on this" asshole.
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Surely this can't be allowed. Going by the patents all android devices are infringing!!!!!
jobs should have suffered more he wasn't an innovator he was a thieving bastard who went out of his way to ruin competitors out of pure greed
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The public should sue apple for trying to take away their free choice. Their latest attempt is just draconion and we should unite to stop this attempt to make everyone buy apple products.
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Surely this can't be allowed. Going by the patents all android devices are infringing!!!!!
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A lot more than android, what about other devices using multi touch or any other patents.
PS vita, 3D's, touch computers, hell.. I'll just throw it in there and say apple should try to **** over windows just because.
Apple is a horrible infection that won't go away like herpes. **** jobs!
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I understand no one wants to be cheated for their work, but this is just ridiculous.
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A lot more than android, what about other devices using multi touch or any other patents.
PS vita, 3D's, touch computers, hell.. I'll just throw it in there and say apple should try to **** over windows just because.
Apple is a horrible infection that won't go away like herpes. **** jobs!
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I doubt the courts will let android be taken down by Apple. Surely there will be some line drawn!
Guys calm down. Swearing and wishing a horrible death to someone who died already a painful death is not making you look mature or protecting any company from IP claims.
We are talking about huge companies sueing each other publicly. Just because the press didn't cover it before as much didn't mean it didn't happen. Take SCO for instance. I think 99% of the readers won't even recognize that brand - had they been able to prove (or at least successfully claim) copyright to Unix, Linux (known as today) and by extension the Linux-based systems such as Android would not be FOSS (free and opensource). (At least not in the US)
My point is, let them wage their wars, sit back and enjoy the show. If no media cover it, they won't try such high-stake obviously media-oriented stunts.
Even if Apple should gain the patents, they most likely will result in FRAND (fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory) which means a few Cent more to the already very high IP cost per device.
Oh, just a note:
Both Google-released Android browsers rely on Webkit which has been started as a fork of KHTML/KJS by... Apple.
If you want to print something on UNIXiod operating systems you most probably use CUPS by.... Apple
The only non-proprietary programming language for GPU-based programs, OpenCL, was started by... Apple
Don't say they just steal. They added and continue to add a lot of great functionality to opensource software we rely on every day.
Yeah, it's 25 patents. Compared to how many patents there are total, like Motorola which is owned by Google which has like 4000+ patents, that's very little.
It also depends on specifics, like for example Motorola owns its own patent on multi touch etc.
This will be a large lame battle of "technicalities" that can be interpreted correctly or incorrectly.
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maybe Google will use Motorola's patents which cover communication as far as I know.
Sadly apple is worse than a crying baby wanting other kid's ball because it theirs even if it's not.
let's see what happens in the future but this is a desperate move fom apple, knowing they are losing the battle
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maybe Google will use Motorola's patents which cover communication as far as I know.
Sadly apple is worse than a crying baby wanting other kid's ball because it theirs even if it's not.
let's see what happens in the future but this is a desperate move fom apple, knowing they are losing the battle
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If the courts allowed Apple to ban devices infringing on these patents then this would create a monopoly. So it won't happen all I see happening is the possibility of Google paying a fee to apple for use of the patents. Which sucks!
How on earth could anyone possibly grant apple a patent for lists? Even the old Nokia 3310 had lists. The patent office might just as well have granted them a patent for the ability to make calls.
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a patent for the ability to make calls.
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Could be a good weapon for their "thermonuclear war"...
With custom roms available even if Apple won and android could no longer use such features. I am sure there would be custom roms made with these features in tact.
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With custom roms available even if Apple won and android could no longer use such features. I am sure there would be custom roms made with these features in tact.
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People would make the play store2
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Apple have won there patent suit against samsung which is due to pay out $1.05 billion.
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What does this means for android?
A sad day in tech
A monopoly for apple in US?
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Apple have won there patent suit against samsung which is due to pay out $1.05 billion.
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A sad day in tech
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I would think it means almost nothing for android. As far as for Samsung it probably just means more money spent on appeals in court.
JMHO
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I'm trying to figure out if this means licensing deals will be worked out now or if features will be stripped from products.
It would kind of suck if zooming on photos and multi-touch is now removed. Combine that with the universal search and I would think we'd all have grounds to get our money back for products not being what we paid for at the time of purchase. Hmmmm.
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I'm trying to figure out if this means licensing deals will be worked out now or if features will be stripped from products.
It would kind of suck if zooming on photos and multi-touch is now removed. Combine that with the universal search and I would think we'd all have grounds to get our money back for products not being what we paid for at the time of purchase. Hmmmm.
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Take comfort in the fact that google wont let those features go without a fight
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bbeelzebub said:
I'm trying to figure out if this means licensing deals will be worked out now or if features will be stripped from products.
It would kind of suck if zooming on photos and multi-touch is now removed. Combine that with the universal search and I would think we'd all have grounds to get our money back for products not being what we paid for at the time of purchase. Hmmmm.
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Current devices will continue to have that functionality. They won't remove it from your product
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Hopefully Samsung wins on Appeal...
Apple suing to stifle competition is why I looked at Android.
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I think now one thing we can do is go to apple store if we encounter any issues with Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S phones and ask them to fix the damn issue. Let's see if they say that it's not an iPhone or ipad, tell them their bosses at Cupertino think otherwise
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I think now one thing we can do is go to apple store if we encounter any issues with Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S phones and ask them to fix the damn issue. Let's see if they say that it's not an iPhone or ipad, tell them their bosses at Cupertino think otherwise
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As ridiculous as that seems, I'd think it a good laugh if I saw a dude rock up in an apple store demanding help since the "stolen copied Apple-tech" has a problem.
I'm just glad most of these ridiculous patent wars are in the US only and the rest of us can still enjoy imports without too much hassle.
As far as the patents go, Apple would probably patent the fact that their devices use a battery if they could, its stifling competition to the detriment of all consumers. Competition is healthy and stimulates innovation
Thought this was funny
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Thought this was funny
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As someone who values an iOS device over Android I guess I'm going to have the unpopular opinion here. But Samsung released a document that told it's employees how they needed to copy the iPhone. I mean come on. Are people that fanboyish that they're just going to ignore this huge piece of evidence? It's literally a guide on how to best copy the iPhone. As someone who's used an iPhone since they came out, used a Galaxy S, Motorola XT860, Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 10.1, HP TouchPad, HTC One S, and currently using a Galaxy S 3 until the new iPhone comes out, I can easily say that I can see how they would think they're copying features.
Looks like I'm not the only one that sees clear violation: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/25/3267843/apple-vs-samsung-juror-speaks
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Every phone manufacturer does an extensive study on their competitors' products.
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Haha there are those rose coloured Android goggles. I've never seen a company break a product down and say "we need to copy these features" like Samsung did.
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Haha there are those rose coloured Android goggles. I've never seen a company break a product down and say "we need to copy these features" like Samsung did.
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Microsoft with Windows, also based on Apple designs. The problem is not the copying of designs (yes its unoriginal, its bad karma, we know) but instead the fact that Apple was able to patent such basic design ideas like a rectangular screen with rounded edges. That technically makes all touchscreen devices and laptop computers infringing devices. The patent office should not have allowed the patents to get approved in the first place. Even though App,e patented the idea, it doesn't mean they were the first to think of it.
Who should hold IP over an idea - the person or persons who thought of it first, or those who filled out the paperwork? Hell, even calculus was thought up by two people at the same time, without knowledge of the other.
Patents like this (if exercised when the devices first started appearing) can only inhibit technological advancement, as it removes competition. Competition fosters growth.
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Microsoft with Windows, also based on Apple designs. The problem is not the copying of designs (yes its unoriginal, its bad karma, we know) but instead the fact that Apple was able to patent such basic design ideas like a rectangular screen with rounded edges. That technically makes all touchscreen devices and laptop computers infringing devices. The patent office should not have allowed the patents to get approved in the first place. Even though App,e patented the idea, it doesn't mean they were the first to think of it.
Who should hold IP over an idea - the person or persons who thought of it first, or those who filled out the paperwork? Hell, even calculus was thought up by two people at the same time, without knowledge of the other.
Patents like this (if exercised when the devices first started appearing) can only inhibit technological advancement, as it removes competition. Competition fosters growth.
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Indeed! At to put perspective further, Apple even copied (Xerox) to get where they are. The game is not "who copied who", but rather who gets the patent first.
Apple is playing a dangerous game of "patenting" and sueing everyone. Making the competition unable to input basic idea in their products, I honeslty think it's a matter of time before Apple Gets sued by everyone they've copied over the years, and they copied a lot of people!
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As someone who values an iOS device over Android I guess I'm going to have the unpopular opinion here. But Samsung released a document that told it's employees how they needed to copy the iPhone. I mean come on. Are people that fanboyish that they're just going to ignore this huge piece of evidence? It's literally a guide on how to best copy the iPhone. As someone who's used an iPhone since they came out, used a Galaxy S, Motorola XT860, Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 10.1, HP TouchPad, HTC One S, and currently using a Galaxy S 3 until the new iPhone comes out, I can easily say that I can see how they would think they're copying features.
Looks like I'm not the only one that sees clear violation: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/25/3267843/apple-vs-samsung-juror-speaks
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Copying isn't the real issue, it's the patent office. For example one of the design patents Apple was granted was for a rectangle with rounded corners. I think that anyone that's used a tray in a cafeteria knows that this is a silly patent. Yet Samsung had to defend this in court.
The patent office has publicly stated that they are under budget and overwhelmed with patent applications and that they do little research on prior art these days. They have stated that the will grant patents and let the courts sort it out. This is their way of sending a political message to Washington for more money. What results are judgements like we saw last Friday.
I believe that Samsung took a calculated risk when they copied Apple's alleged patents. They were a distant second place in the phone market behind Apple and saw what was happening to RIM and Nokia. Copying Apple not only thrust Samsung into first place, by a wide margin, it netted them $6 billion. That's a good leverage on the $1B judgement.
In any event, Samsung is now the number one phone maker an the threat of these kinds of lawsuits in the future are minimal since the Samsung products are now superior and we find Apple copying Android.
Gotta wonder about the jury.
Does anyone buying a Samsung tab REALLY think they're buying an iPad?
I'm no Apple basher. Even though I've never used any of their products (other than an Airport Express for my WAP), I'm sure they make great products.
But mistaking a Samsung, or any other, device for an Apple device?
Really?
Puuuuuuuleeeeeese!
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Gotta wonder about the jury.
Does anyone buying a Samsung tab REALLY think they're buying an iPad?
I'm no Apple basher. Even though I've never used any of their products (other than an Airport Express for my WAP), I'm sure they make great products.
But mistaking a Samsung, or any other, device for an Apple device?
Really?
Puuuuuuuleeeeeese!
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Yes, the awards by the jury presumed EVERY Samsung phone purchased was a lost sale for Apple. My understanding is that this decision alone is grounds for appeal.
Must Watch...!!!
This was extracted from TED talks.
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But mistaking a Samsung, or any other, device for an Apple device?
Really?
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I've been saying this along, does Apple think its customer base is not smart enough to differentiate between Apple and Samsung products? "Oh NOOOOs I just bought a Samsung when I thought I was getting the iPhone!" The entire design patent is a joke, next lawsuit is against Applebees for using similar name and rectangle tables with rounded edges!
I'm not a fanboi, I just hate stupidity!
I hear apple is using a lot of Microsoft technology they ripped.....
Will Microsoft lay claim to their patents ?
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I hear apple is using a lot of Microsoft technology they ripped.....
Will Microsoft lay claim to their patents ?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there is a law that Microsoft and Apple can't sue each other.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there is a law that Microsoft and Apple can't sue each other.
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Its not a law but they do have a gentleman's agreement that they will not sue each. Only they know the ins and outs of the deal but they cross license each others tech. Long story short if they did start to scrap like apple vs Samsung then both will lose out in a very long and very expensive exchange of blows that will most likely do nothing but limit both companies progression and revenue.
Well, untill recently it look like Microsoft is trying to reap on apple
Creating a nice walled garden for themself
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Its not a law but they do have a gentleman's agreement that they will not sue each. Only they know the ins and outs of the deal but they cross license each others tech. Long story short if they did start to scrap like apple vs Samsung then both will lose out in a very long and very expensive exchange of blows that will most likely do nothing but limit both companies progression and revenue.
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Thanks and that says it all, they will not sue each other.
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Wise decision not to sue
I think it's a great, mature thing to do. All the circus with Apple and Samsung is bad for both companies.
Apple & Google
Hi all
I think it's actually a case of Apple and Google. In this case Samsung are a proxy for Google.
The problem started when Eric Schmidt, who was on the Apple board, started developing Android as a touchscreen smartphone OS (not the original intention) having learnt about the plans for the iPhone through his role on the Apple board.
Steve Jobs felt very personally betrayed over this and famously said that he would spend Apple's last dollar to destroy Google's Android.
The more damage Apple can do to any manufacturer's ability to make money from Android, the more they damage Android itself.
God bless
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lumpaywk said:
Its not a law but they do have a gentleman's agreement that they will not sue each. Only they know the ins and outs of the deal but they cross license each others tech. Long story short if they did start to scrap like apple vs Samsung then both will lose out in a very long and very expensive exchange of blows that will most likely do nothing but limit both companies progression and revenue.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/13/3...cross-license-agreement-includes-anti-cloning
cross license -> http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1292505/584.pdf
Apple and Microsoft simply have been competing and coexisting in the Desktop space for a very long time. They had to find a way to deal with the whole patent situation in a way that would not interfer too much with both there businesses which means cross licensing of basic functionalities while they both retain some exclusives.
This is actually the case in most established markets. Motorola and Nokia have a cross licensing agreement as well.
When Apple and later Google entered the Smartphone sector though they began competing with the established manufacturers. Having no networking IP themselves (or very little IP at all in Googles case) but lots of new ideas for the operating system and UI this pretty much led to disturbances in the balance of power in that market. It will take some more time before all companies involved figure out what is what again and then the whole patent business will vanish from the news while the money changes hands for patents as it always has.
The U.S. ITC said today that they have started to do a formal review of the complaint Google's Motorola Mobile Unit filed on August 17.
The handset maker, which Google bought in May for $12.5 billion, claims Apple infringed seven of its patents on features including interactive voice commands, location reminders, e-mail notification and phone/video players. The case seeks a ban on U.S. imports of devices including the iPhone, iPad and Mac computers. Apple’s products are made in Asia.
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Let the war begin. Let there be an injunction on crapple's iDevices. Let 'em taste their own medicines.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-18/google-s-motorola-case-against-apple-at-itc-to-be-probed
well... what goes around comes around
Lol this gon b gud
Motorola should now publish unofficial Nexus devices, possibly around the world. Moto's Android is not very customised like Sense which is awesome!! Google rules for buying Moto
I hope apple gets phuck'd good. How can you patent the shape of a phone.
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If apple started making cars ..
"Hey ford! We four wheels first! Also, the regular layman can't tell our cars apart! I'm gonna sue you!"
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