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let's sign this petition to stop Apple unfair software patent suits against android

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Will you android nerds live in a world where every gadget sold is made by Apple? sign this petition (not made by me) if you in any way care about Android.
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Is this thing true?
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droidgenius said:
Is this thing true?
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these are tough time we're living.. we might lose one of our life's luxury, Android. without Android, everything is locked; you can't do this, you can't do that. Android OS frees your life, free as in freedom to do anything you want with it.

Apple will never stop Android. I actually think they arent't even interested on that. I know it's very annoying to see those news about lawsuits against android and/or devices with android os. This concernes all of us but I think it is importat, especially at this times of turmoil, to take this more objektively. Also, it is important to stay rational and don't let feelings control our reactions. Only now we'll be able to understand these happenings. I hope some of you will get what I'm trying to say
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nitrous² said:
Apple will never stop Android. I actually think they arent't even interested on that. I know it's very annoying to see those news about lawsuits against android and/or devices with android os. This concernes all of us but I think it is importat, especially at this times of turmoil, to take this more objektively. Also, it is important to stay rational and don't let feelings control our reactions. Only now we'll be able to understand these happenings. I hope some of you will get what I'm trying to say
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and how are you so sure?
no matter how ridiculous Apple patents are, they will win one way or another. even though they won't win 100%, Apple will surely hurt most android manufacturers to the point where they want to stop making android phones. surely you can live with that, right?

Apple doesn't give a s**t about workers dying in Foxcon, what makes you think they will even notice petition? They are US company. If there is 1$ possible profit from anything, they will go for it.

Generally, it's not about Apple, it's about stupid law which allows to protect ****ting in toilet in some fancy way.

stfudude said:
and how are you so sure?
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'coz companies need each other to compete. If there wasn't android, apple would be a random company which produces some electro stuff, and less people would recognize the whole smartphone section the way they do it WITH Android, RIM, WP7 and WebOS or Symbian as competing companies. And doesn't this bringing us together? To have a mutual enemy, is far more productive as you might think
It's also a rule of law, that monopol's aren't allowed in business section. People have the right to be able to choose between various options. Just imagine there were only one Car manufacturer, and this would be GM :O!! Idon't even wanna think about that... At least in Germany, don't know how they handle this in other countries. And because of that, I assume Apple isn't interested on destroying Android. And if they do, google would just change the way how patended things on Android OS works and boom...we're out of that game . Google is one of the most innovative company on the Planet or solar system, of course they'll find a way out of this misery. Never underrate Larry Page and his company guys
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I really want to know how the government lets Apple get away with this? I mean for instance didn't Apple just file a patent last year for slide to unlock? How is that legal? How can you just patent something so you can sue other companies? Also I read in the newest lawsuit against the galaxy nexus, they are claiming that Ice Cream sandwich rips off Siri...really? SIRI JUST CAME OUT! Google voice actions for android has been around since what eclair? So Apple is going to rip off Google, file a patent for it, then turnaround and claim they had the idea first and sue google? How does that work?
I really really loathe apple.

Uh the fact of the matter is that Android does infringe on many patents. There's a reason manufacturers pay MS a ton of money to prevent litigation, because they know they'll lose. If OEMs wants patent lawsuits to stop then Google needs to rewrite their OS to stop it from infringing on other people's patents. Deal with it.

Cor-master said:
I really want to know how the government lets Apple get away with this? I mean for instance didn't Apple just file a patent last year for slide to unlock? How is that legal? How can you just patent something so you can sue other companies? Also I read in the newest lawsuit against the galaxy nexus, they are claiming that Ice Cream sandwich rips off Siri...really? SIRI JUST CAME OUT! Google voice actions for android has been around since what eclair? So Apple is going to rip off Google, file a patent for it, then turnaround and claim they had the idea first and sue google? How does that work?
I really really loathe apple.
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ummm, siri is not new, but it was originally an excellent app until apple bought it out and limited it to 4gs
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smegg said:
ummm, siri is not new, but it was originally an excellent app until apple bought it out and limited it to 4gs
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Hello smegg dude,
Siri WAS from Google Voice Search. What FAGpple do is,
-They improved the app by adding many fcuked features.
-They improved microphones to synced with the app.
But still, its Google Voice Search, what is FAGpple's default search? MobileMe? Bing? It's Google.
Also, you guys must remember. Processor chips for iPhone is now manufacturered by Samsung.
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These patents really are straight ridiculous, it's clear apple doesn't want to compete they want to be a monopoly. This isn't just apple vs Android this is apple vs blackberry and apple vs windows phone too. Apple wins all this stuff then there will be no competitors, thus creating an apple monopoly. I'm sure it's all a result of them loosing the pc battle to Microsoft in the 90s and being bitter about it but you know what? They wanna destroy Android then make a better product, price more competitively. Take tablets who wants to pay $600 for an ipad when you can get a nook color for $120 refurbished and then root it and put cm7 on and you have a full working tablet!
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Apple does it again

http://www.latimes.com/business/tec...ales-in-patent-fight-20120213,0,6656116.story
Are they this fricking bored and butt hurt?
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Wow...
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It will lead to World War III!
It already started in that upgrade thread...LOL.

This is getting absolutely ****ing ridiculous. Apple is one gigantic crybaby. Gtfo, *****es.
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Don't tell me they are suing for voice search which Google provided for the iPhone before siri...
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Hmm lawsuits that's what apple has over android...they are the ultimate fanboys.
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Theyre really showing what kind of business they want, and thats ALL OF IT. They dont do well with competition, and I see them in a giant hole within the next 5 years.
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b16flybye said:
Theyre really showing what kind of business they want, and thats ALL OF IT. They dont do well with competition, and I see them in a giant hole within the next 5 years.
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i still say android its more user friendly then any apple iphone ipod or what ever they got. at least thats how i feel. grabted they started this touch screen phones. but to me android improved apples ideas..

Surprised this is just being posted, I read about this two days ago. I thought nobody cared lol!

marcusant said:
Don't tell me they are suing for voice search which Google provided for the iPhone before siri...
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Nah they're suing for the "Slide to Unlock" patent, which is stupid, since there's hardly any similarity in their lock screens.
What's even more stupid is Apple is trying to patent facial recognition as well, even though they don't even have the freaking feature yet.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/29/apple-files-for-face-unlock-patent-are-you-kidding-me/

Didn't you guys see the bio of steve jobs. He said android was a stolen idea and would spend all of apples money litigating the issue in every major company. But you know what's hilarious is autorities in china are pulling ipads off of retailers shelves due to another company owning that name lol cracks me up.

Lol, its just sad that theyre scraping any little feature to try and use against android. Slide unlock? Really? Whats next? I would have a tad more respect for apple if they would just die like men instead of the whining we've witnessed lately.
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I don't know that Apple can die at all, with the a userbase comprised of illiterates and blind followers. They make exorbitant profits, and for what?! Nothing is going to the employees or the users, just vast bank accounts. I'd feel better about this if they had a reason for it other than "THIS TAKES POTENTIAL PROFITS FROM US!!! SUE SUE SUE!!!"

Name one time thy Android actually stole an idea from iOS.
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Well, there is the 'i' in Android

They are also claiming that the nexus infringes their patent of the hyperlink, this is getting ridiculous. Microsoft and apple are also the ones that want everyone to agree to a commitment to not sue for patent infringement of technologies which are essential for devices to work. Apple wants everyone to do as they say, not as they do.

Even if android is a copy of iOS (it isn't), it is an open source alternative. They are attempting to sue a company distributing free, open, software.
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This is Bull **** Apple needs to be sued by google seeing how in iOS5 they put the drop down notifications menu in and also should be sued because they took our android lockscreen puzzle etc..... What has it come down to suing for every little damn thing. Seriously they want to play like that then we should sue em for all their dumb Bull**** patents. GTFOH APPLE

Apple is panicking... before some phone would match the iPhone of that Gen and they'd +1 they're iPhone with a feature they held back from the previous model now they really can't so what do they do? Sue.
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If i were google i'd make an anti apple campaign ... and knowledge common people about them and their products

'Has Apple Really Ever Invented Anything?' video

For those of you who haven't seen the video, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFeC25BM9E0&feature=share

DeadSOL said:
For those of you who haven't seen the video, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFeC25BM9E0&feature=share
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Just makes you wonder how can the Samsung lawyers let this charade go this far! For crying out loud, if a couple of guys can collect this amount of evidence in a matter of few days, I'd say there is something wrong with this whole trial.

Actually this video (as some of you would have probably already seen) would be more relevant: especially @4:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-KS2kfIr0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I remember that 1994 Steve Jobs interview when he basically admits he steals ideas, but that was when Apple were really struggling so didn't have investors and shareholders that would have shot him in the kneecaps if he said the same thing recently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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caslca said:
Just makes you wonder how can the Samsung lawyers let this charade go this far! For crying out loud, if a couple of guys can collect this amount of evidence in a matter of few days, I'd say there is something wrong with this whole trial.
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American courts, American company.
Do you think Johnny Foreigner is ever gonna get a fair trial against a huge American company like Apple? I mean big business always funds election campaigns over there so companies like Apple have basically bought shares in USA plc.

caslca said:
Just makes you wonder how can the Samsung lawyers let this charade go this far! For crying out loud, if a couple of guys can collect this amount of evidence in a matter of few days, I'd say there is something wrong with this whole trial.
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The lawyers are horrible. It is easy to defend that. All they need is to get a hand on any documents that show Apple researching Windows OS because everyone knows everyone, including Apple researches other companies.

The recent Samsung documents telling the designers how the Galaxy S should differ from the iPhone are a real blow to the whole case, in my opinion. That's what has to stand the brunt of the attack now.
Also, one of Samsung's documents was rejected by the court. I think they brought it in too late. That's why they leaked it to the public. Ah, Samsung. What are you doing to yourselves?!

Has the whole world gone mad or just America? **** Apple. They will repeat history.. come and go.
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I hate this trial just as much as anyone, but Samsung made absolutely NO effort in differentiating their 1st gen Galaxy S (mainly i9000 model) from the iPhone. The first thought that came into my head when they revealed the phone was "why does it look like an iphone inside and out?" I know the needs to take down Goliath and all, but the first Galaxy S was just downright blatant mirror image of the iPhone...even down to the touchwiz icons and UI.
With that being said, the US patent system needs a complete overhaul to stop these frivolous suits and the Supreme Court needs to set precedence once and for all.

Todays consumer are smart. They know what they are buying. A small boy will differentiate sammy from apple. Grow up apple
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I hate this trial just as much as anyone, but Samsung made absolutely NO effort in differentiating their 1st gen Galaxy S
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Korean, japanese and russian companies all have the same principle: first copy a device, then optimize and extend it so much with the gained experience that it becomes superior to the original.
The Chinese unfortunately are not quite there yet - mainly due to lack of hightech but it won't be long.
I know the needs to take down Goliath and all, but the first Galaxy S was just downright blatant mirror image of the iPhone
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Sadly only from looks. It was sooooo sloooooow even though it's based on good hardware, mainly because Samsung decided to go with their RFS and other software issues.
For those of you who haven't seen the video
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The main problem with the video is that they exclude software, where Apple (partially more or less involuntarely since they base on FOSS software) has contributed lots of patches and extensions to existing standards and helped push new ones. Google's Chrome for instance would at least have had a much harder start if not for Apple's Safari and the resulting changes in the Webkit engine.

Apple has definitely made worthwhile contributions to the advancement of technology. For example they may have stolen the mouse from IBM but if they hadn't, IBM probably wouldn't have done anything with it.
These days however they are just plain being lame. Google should sue them for having web search in the safari browser. It's about the same level of idiocy as what Apple have dropped too.
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dr.m0x said:
Apple has definitely made worthwhile contributions to the advancement of technology. For example they may have stolen the mouse from IBM but if they hadn't, IBM probably wouldn't have done anything with it.
These days however they are just plain being lame. Google should sue them for having web search in the safari browser. It's about the same level of idiocy as what Apple have dropped too.
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The universal search patent is especially retarded.

This has always been my bugbear with patent law. Nokia's recent sign up for ms means apple now have legal rights to all of Nokia's patents and are now using Nokia patents against Samsung and htc, and indirectly claiming them as apple's (which from a legal standpoint they are!). However, the simple solution would be to do what LG and Sony already do and that is pay the damned patent license. Yes it increases overall handset cost but not significantly.
It's sad when you consider the patents would have only added on about $5 to the cost of each handset. I doubt anyone would have said "oh man, the s3 is great, but its $5 bucks over my budget".
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andyl66 said:
Nokia's recent sign up for ms means apple now have legal rights to all of Nokia's patents and are now using Nokia patents against Samsung and htc, and indirectly claiming them as apple's (which from a legal standpoint they are!).
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Wrong. It may very well be the case that Apple are suing over technology that overlaps with others patents, but it should not be doing so because it does not have the right to sue over patents it has licensed from others. From a legal standpoint they are anything but Apple's patents.
Even Intellectual Property licensed with the explicit intention of allowing a third-party to sue over the IP, isn't valid for a suit (big case on that in recent years).
Licensing means I say "Okay you can use my spatula when you need it in exchange for your mother's bra". It doesn't mean if on some other occasion someone else has it you can scream "Thief!! That spatula doesn't belong to you, give it back!" At the end of the day it's still my spatula so I can still give it to whomever else I want, and if someone steals it, that's my concern not yours.
Same thing: the patents are still Nokia's. The absolute best Apple could do is pressure Nokia into suing. You cannot sue on someone else's behalf except in exceptional cases like the would-be plaintiff is under-age, or dead.

Well, whatever the case may be, we all know that Apple is a crap company and it's trying to threaten our beloved Android. I love the fact that Android is open-source. I love the fact that Android-based devices are popping up everywhere. Nikon has made an Android-based camera. Isn't it lovely when all your devices use the same software? Isn't it amazing that we can legally hack these devices and modify them? Thank you Google for being such a friendly company!

This section is for the discussion of the SGS3, not for apple nonsense.
Closed.

Apple wins patent, what does that means for android

Apple have won there patent suit against samsung which is due to pay out $1.05 billion.
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What does this means for android?
A sad day in tech

A monopoly for apple in US?
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yor1001 said:
Apple have won there patent suit against samsung which is due to pay out $1.05 billion.
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What does this means for android?
A sad day in tech
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I would think it means almost nothing for android. As far as for Samsung it probably just means more money spent on appeals in court.
JMHO
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I'm trying to figure out if this means licensing deals will be worked out now or if features will be stripped from products.
It would kind of suck if zooming on photos and multi-touch is now removed. Combine that with the universal search and I would think we'd all have grounds to get our money back for products not being what we paid for at the time of purchase. Hmmmm.

bbeelzebub said:
I'm trying to figure out if this means licensing deals will be worked out now or if features will be stripped from products.
It would kind of suck if zooming on photos and multi-touch is now removed. Combine that with the universal search and I would think we'd all have grounds to get our money back for products not being what we paid for at the time of purchase. Hmmmm.
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Take comfort in the fact that google wont let those features go without a fight
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bbeelzebub said:
I'm trying to figure out if this means licensing deals will be worked out now or if features will be stripped from products.
It would kind of suck if zooming on photos and multi-touch is now removed. Combine that with the universal search and I would think we'd all have grounds to get our money back for products not being what we paid for at the time of purchase. Hmmmm.
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Current devices will continue to have that functionality. They won't remove it from your product
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Hopefully Samsung wins on Appeal...
Apple suing to stifle competition is why I looked at Android.
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I think now one thing we can do is go to apple store if we encounter any issues with Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S phones and ask them to fix the damn issue. Let's see if they say that it's not an iPhone or ipad, tell them their bosses at Cupertino think otherwise
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krips2003 said:
I think now one thing we can do is go to apple store if we encounter any issues with Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S phones and ask them to fix the damn issue. Let's see if they say that it's not an iPhone or ipad, tell them their bosses at Cupertino think otherwise
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As ridiculous as that seems, I'd think it a good laugh if I saw a dude rock up in an apple store demanding help since the "stolen copied Apple-tech" has a problem.
I'm just glad most of these ridiculous patent wars are in the US only and the rest of us can still enjoy imports without too much hassle.
As far as the patents go, Apple would probably patent the fact that their devices use a battery if they could, its stifling competition to the detriment of all consumers. Competition is healthy and stimulates innovation

Thought this was funny
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Thought this was funny
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/8/2...dollar-lawsuit-it-is-all-good-advertising-for
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As someone who values an iOS device over Android I guess I'm going to have the unpopular opinion here. But Samsung released a document that told it's employees how they needed to copy the iPhone. I mean come on. Are people that fanboyish that they're just going to ignore this huge piece of evidence? It's literally a guide on how to best copy the iPhone. As someone who's used an iPhone since they came out, used a Galaxy S, Motorola XT860, Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 10.1, HP TouchPad, HTC One S, and currently using a Galaxy S 3 until the new iPhone comes out, I can easily say that I can see how they would think they're copying features.
Looks like I'm not the only one that sees clear violation: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/25/3267843/apple-vs-samsung-juror-speaks

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mick1mouse said:
Every phone manufacturer does an extensive study on their competitors' products.
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Haha there are those rose coloured Android goggles. I've never seen a company break a product down and say "we need to copy these features" like Samsung did.

L33t Masta said:
Haha there are those rose coloured Android goggles. I've never seen a company break a product down and say "we need to copy these features" like Samsung did.
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Microsoft with Windows, also based on Apple designs. The problem is not the copying of designs (yes its unoriginal, its bad karma, we know) but instead the fact that Apple was able to patent such basic design ideas like a rectangular screen with rounded edges. That technically makes all touchscreen devices and laptop computers infringing devices. The patent office should not have allowed the patents to get approved in the first place. Even though App,e patented the idea, it doesn't mean they were the first to think of it.
Who should hold IP over an idea - the person or persons who thought of it first, or those who filled out the paperwork? Hell, even calculus was thought up by two people at the same time, without knowledge of the other.
Patents like this (if exercised when the devices first started appearing) can only inhibit technological advancement, as it removes competition. Competition fosters growth.
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spitzaf said:
Microsoft with Windows, also based on Apple designs. The problem is not the copying of designs (yes its unoriginal, its bad karma, we know) but instead the fact that Apple was able to patent such basic design ideas like a rectangular screen with rounded edges. That technically makes all touchscreen devices and laptop computers infringing devices. The patent office should not have allowed the patents to get approved in the first place. Even though App,e patented the idea, it doesn't mean they were the first to think of it.
Who should hold IP over an idea - the person or persons who thought of it first, or those who filled out the paperwork? Hell, even calculus was thought up by two people at the same time, without knowledge of the other.
Patents like this (if exercised when the devices first started appearing) can only inhibit technological advancement, as it removes competition. Competition fosters growth.
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Indeed! At to put perspective further, Apple even copied (Xerox) to get where they are. The game is not "who copied who", but rather who gets the patent first.
Apple is playing a dangerous game of "patenting" and sueing everyone. Making the competition unable to input basic idea in their products, I honeslty think it's a matter of time before Apple Gets sued by everyone they've copied over the years, and they copied a lot of people!

L33t Masta said:
As someone who values an iOS device over Android I guess I'm going to have the unpopular opinion here. But Samsung released a document that told it's employees how they needed to copy the iPhone. I mean come on. Are people that fanboyish that they're just going to ignore this huge piece of evidence? It's literally a guide on how to best copy the iPhone. As someone who's used an iPhone since they came out, used a Galaxy S, Motorola XT860, Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 10.1, HP TouchPad, HTC One S, and currently using a Galaxy S 3 until the new iPhone comes out, I can easily say that I can see how they would think they're copying features.
Looks like I'm not the only one that sees clear violation: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/25/3267843/apple-vs-samsung-juror-speaks
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Copying isn't the real issue, it's the patent office. For example one of the design patents Apple was granted was for a rectangle with rounded corners. I think that anyone that's used a tray in a cafeteria knows that this is a silly patent. Yet Samsung had to defend this in court.
The patent office has publicly stated that they are under budget and overwhelmed with patent applications and that they do little research on prior art these days. They have stated that the will grant patents and let the courts sort it out. This is their way of sending a political message to Washington for more money. What results are judgements like we saw last Friday.
I believe that Samsung took a calculated risk when they copied Apple's alleged patents. They were a distant second place in the phone market behind Apple and saw what was happening to RIM and Nokia. Copying Apple not only thrust Samsung into first place, by a wide margin, it netted them $6 billion. That's a good leverage on the $1B judgement.
In any event, Samsung is now the number one phone maker an the threat of these kinds of lawsuits in the future are minimal since the Samsung products are now superior and we find Apple copying Android.

Gotta wonder about the jury.
Does anyone buying a Samsung tab REALLY think they're buying an iPad?
I'm no Apple basher. Even though I've never used any of their products (other than an Airport Express for my WAP), I'm sure they make great products.
But mistaking a Samsung, or any other, device for an Apple device?
Really?
Puuuuuuuleeeeeese!

Jacksmyname said:
Gotta wonder about the jury.
Does anyone buying a Samsung tab REALLY think they're buying an iPad?
I'm no Apple basher. Even though I've never used any of their products (other than an Airport Express for my WAP), I'm sure they make great products.
But mistaking a Samsung, or any other, device for an Apple device?
Really?
Puuuuuuuleeeeeese!
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Yes, the awards by the jury presumed EVERY Samsung phone purchased was a lost sale for Apple. My understanding is that this decision alone is grounds for appeal.

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Jacksmyname said:
But mistaking a Samsung, or any other, device for an Apple device?
Really?
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I've been saying this along, does Apple think its customer base is not smart enough to differentiate between Apple and Samsung products? "Oh NOOOOs I just bought a Samsung when I thought I was getting the iPhone!" The entire design patent is a joke, next lawsuit is against Applebees for using similar name and rectangle tables with rounded edges!
I'm not a fanboi, I just hate stupidity!

Windows vs. Apple.

I hear apple is using a lot of Microsoft technology they ripped.....
Will Microsoft lay claim to their patents ?
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wmsforties said:
I hear apple is using a lot of Microsoft technology they ripped.....
Will Microsoft lay claim to their patents ?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there is a law that Microsoft and Apple can't sue each other.

TravisAntonio said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there is a law that Microsoft and Apple can't sue each other.
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Its not a law but they do have a gentleman's agreement that they will not sue each. Only they know the ins and outs of the deal but they cross license each others tech. Long story short if they did start to scrap like apple vs Samsung then both will lose out in a very long and very expensive exchange of blows that will most likely do nothing but limit both companies progression and revenue.

Well, untill recently it look like Microsoft is trying to reap on apple
Creating a nice walled garden for themself
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lumpaywk said:
Its not a law but they do have a gentleman's agreement that they will not sue each. Only they know the ins and outs of the deal but they cross license each others tech. Long story short if they did start to scrap like apple vs Samsung then both will lose out in a very long and very expensive exchange of blows that will most likely do nothing but limit both companies progression and revenue.
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Thanks and that says it all, they will not sue each other.
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Wise decision not to sue
I think it's a great, mature thing to do. All the circus with Apple and Samsung is bad for both companies.

Apple & Google
Hi all
I think it's actually a case of Apple and Google. In this case Samsung are a proxy for Google.
The problem started when Eric Schmidt, who was on the Apple board, started developing Android as a touchscreen smartphone OS (not the original intention) having learnt about the plans for the iPhone through his role on the Apple board.
Steve Jobs felt very personally betrayed over this and famously said that he would spend Apple's last dollar to destroy Google's Android.
The more damage Apple can do to any manufacturer's ability to make money from Android, the more they damage Android itself.
God bless
andrew-in-woking

lumpaywk said:
Its not a law but they do have a gentleman's agreement that they will not sue each. Only they know the ins and outs of the deal but they cross license each others tech. Long story short if they did start to scrap like apple vs Samsung then both will lose out in a very long and very expensive exchange of blows that will most likely do nothing but limit both companies progression and revenue.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/13/3...cross-license-agreement-includes-anti-cloning
cross license -> http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1292505/584.pdf

Apple and Microsoft simply have been competing and coexisting in the Desktop space for a very long time. They had to find a way to deal with the whole patent situation in a way that would not interfer too much with both there businesses which means cross licensing of basic functionalities while they both retain some exclusives.
This is actually the case in most established markets. Motorola and Nokia have a cross licensing agreement as well.
When Apple and later Google entered the Smartphone sector though they began competing with the established manufacturers. Having no networking IP themselves (or very little IP at all in Googles case) but lots of new ideas for the operating system and UI this pretty much led to disturbances in the balance of power in that market. It will take some more time before all companies involved figure out what is what again and then the whole patent business will vanish from the news while the money changes hands for patents as it always has.