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EVO 4G & Epic 4G Hanging out SIDE BY SIDE

Greetings All,
It's me again, last week I posted some side by side photos of the Evo 4G and the Droid X. This week we have two of sprint's 4G handset side by side, the HTC EVO 4G next to the Samsung Epic 4G.
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You should try matching wallpapers to compare the difference between screens, but I think we all know the difference by now.

Could they make the SAMSUNG a bit bigger? Its kinda small as it is right now!!!

lol, you are spoil by our EVO Big Screen....

phatmanxxl said:
You should try matching wallpapers to compare the difference between screens, but I think we all know the difference by now.
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Yea, I will try it and post the pics, Got sooooooo many phones to play with on my job. Work in a technical support group so we all have the different high end phones from the various network...

A coworker here at the office told me she was all excited about her first Android phone and invited me to come see it. It's an Epic, the first one I've actually seen in person. I didn't want to rain on her parade so I kept my opinions to myself but all I could think was "You are still in your 30 days!! Take this POS back and get an EVO while you stil can!!!"
I am very surprised at what an awful device the Epic seems to be. I know opinions are like a-holes but mine is: The Epic doesn't hold a candle to the EVO and I have a hard time thinking of them as similar class phones. Samsung is a GREAT TV maker, if only they made phones as well as they make LCD TV's they would be a serious contender in the Smart Phone market. Too bad they are missing this boat (IMO)

First thanks OP for the pictures.
I had a chance to meet face to face with the Epic here is what I thought:
The screen is beautiful it's like looking at a highres photo. Simply amazing.
OK now that I have that out of the way. The device feels like a cheap kids toy. I kid you not in your hand it just feels like its going to break. It doesn't have that quality build feel of the EVO. The screen doesn't tilt, anyone who owned a TP2 knows what I'm talking about. The screen is small compared to the EVO. I don't care if its .3" or .9" its smaller by a long shot. Processor was slower than the EVO it scored like 954 in quadrant standard. I know it can be over clocked and it doesn't have FroYo so at best it will be as fast as the EVO. It did run 54 fps avg with about 4 or 5 stdev out of the box.
Got to go so I don't have time to proof read my statement, thread grammar checkers let me know.

nicely done op! i really like seeing a side-by-side comparison. even though i like the physical keyboard, i don't like how thick it is! i'm sticking with my EVO. it's just so sexy.
P.S. the samsung owner should check their voicemails!!

give it some time man, here is a a screen shot of the epic in quadrant
we only have stock 2.1 right now and if your looking for a base value look at the nexus one pre 2.2 and compare it to froyo nexus one. that is a substantial jump in score, perhaps when we get 2.2 it will indeed be as fast as the evo (with froyo) but is there a base score for evo on 2.1?
im not looking to pick a fight here but how exactly does it feel like your going to break it in your hand? im curious to known what kind of punishment your dealing to your poor phone that you would break it just by normal use..
not really sure why on the epic forum we have a lot of evo users coming in to complain about how the epic is a pile of crap (sorry dont check the evo boards so i dont know if there has been "counter" attacks) but why cant we all just get along as android brothers and enjoy 4g speeds together?
*EDIT* found some people from way back when teh evo was first released getting about 560ish on quadrant with stock 2.1, linpack gave yall 5.8 pretty decent compared to my old htc hero's 5.2. so the point of all this is just give it some time guys and we can both be on froyo

My post was not a personal attack just an opinion. Come on you know what cheap feels like don't kid yourself. And no the EVO did not score 560ish before OC and Froyo I believe it was around 900ish. Also I did state that they would probably be with in range of each other. We can all get along but we also have to deal with each other short comings such as the EVO GPU not being as good as the Epic. Soon dual and quad cores will be out. Last I am in the EVO forum.
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give it some time man, here is a a screen shot of the epic in quadrant
we only have stock 2.1 right now and if your looking for a base value look at the nexus one pre 2.2 and compare it to froyo nexus one. that is a substantial jump in score, perhaps when we get 2.2 it will indeed be as fast as the evo (with froyo) but is there a base score for evo on 2.1?
im not looking to pick a fight here but how exactly does it feel like your going to break it in your hand? im curious to known what kind of punishment your dealing to your poor phone that you would break it just by normal use..
not really sure why on the epic forum we have a lot of evo users coming in to complain about how the epic is a pile of crap (sorry dont check the evo boards so i dont know if there has been "counter" attacks) but why cant we all just get along as android brothers and enjoy 4g speeds together?
*EDIT* found some people from way back when teh evo was first released getting about 560ish on quadrant with stock 2.1, linpack gave yall 5.8 pretty decent compared to my old htc hero's 5.2. so the point of all this is just give it some time guys and we can both be on froyo
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zone23 said:
My post was not a personal attack just an opinion. Come on you know what cheap feels like don't kid yourself. And no the EVO did not score 560ish before OC and Froyo I believe it was around 900ish. Also I did state that they would probably be with in range of each other. We can all get along but we also have to deal with each other short comings such as the EVO GPU not being as good as the Epic. Soon dual and quad cores will be out. Last I am in the EVO forum.
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oh i know we are, but as a person who browses the epic forums quite a bit there is a good number of people badmouthing the epic, wasnt directing that towards you i know your post was just an honest opinion. some evo users apparently have "iphone user syndrome" and cant fathom another device being close to their holy grail.
i personally am not looking forward to the dual cores as things are the evo and epic (out of the box) suffer from horrid battery life, yet that hasnt stopped samsung from working on the orion chip (1ghz dual core, claims to have 5x the power of the hummingbird).
havent had any complaints about cheapness for my phone, it looks and feels solid in my hands, got a nice bit of weight on it, not too far off from my hero. my first complaint about it was location of usb port and lack of hardware buttons. after owning the phone for a bit i can honestly say im very disappointed with the front camera, it is horridly cropped and such a low res it looks deformed when trying to use qik, (got plenty of issues with qik too but thats the app makers fault there).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695703
in this post shows a comparison of the hero vs the evo, and the evo stock is getting 544 on quadrant. once you guys have oc it got a bit better and of course froyo, i can only hope we get the same lovins

We both love our phones that's a win. I think the front cameras low resolutions are done so when using apps like qik they won't use tons of bandwidth and will semi work on 3G.
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oh i know we are, but as a person who browses the epic forums quite a bit there is a good number of people badmouthing the epic, wasnt directing that towards you i know your post was just an honest opinion. some evo users apparently have "iphone user syndrome" and cant fathom another device being close to their holy grail.
i personally am not looking forward to the dual cores as things are the evo and epic (out of the box) suffer from horrid battery life, yet that hasnt stopped samsung from working on the orion chip (1ghz dual core, claims to have 5x the power of the hummingbird).
havent had any complaints about cheapness for my phone, it looks and feels solid in my hands, got a nice bit of weight on it, not too far off from my hero. my first complaint about it was location of usb port and lack of hardware buttons. after owning the phone for a bit i can honestly say im very disappointed with the front camera, it is horridly cropped and such a low res it looks deformed when trying to use qik, (got plenty of issues with qik too but thats the app makers fault there).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695703
in this post shows a comparison of the hero vs the evo, and the evo stock is getting 544 on quadrant. once you guys have oc it got a bit better and of course froyo, i can only hope we get the same lovins
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Heh. Fans of the Epic probably shouldn't post in a thread within the EVO forums. EVO users tend to think it's the best phone in the world. I just think it's a slightly upgraded HTC desire
But I don't know how you can say that the Epic doesn't hold a candle to the EVO. I own both, and I prefer my Epic. If the difference was that big, I never would have considered the Epic But I like my EVO enough to not get rid of it. I just can't. But it sits around for the most part It just doesn't excite me.

all hail evo
It is the best phone in the world....until the next phone I want is released. I give it until Q1 2011.

The screen looks so much better on the epic

Not sure where you guys are getting those quadrant scores... I have a rooted evo running... whatever rooted (but stock RUU that came out 6 weeks ago or so) and my Quadrant score is 540-560 all the time.
Picked up an Epic for my wife (she has to have a physical keyboard) and it scores in the high 800's low 900's stock.
Would love to boost my evo. Refuse to update to FROYO until the calendar and Gmail push bugs are addressed though.

Quadrant scores mean nothing anyways. Screen on epic does look great at times but that screen door effect its really evident at times as well.
My buddy has the epic and if I didn't have an evo I'd get it in a heart beat. As far as the feel of thee phone, I wouldn't say it feels cheap and weak, but the evo had a sturdier feel, its hard to explain but its there.
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zone23 said:
We both love our phones that's a win. I think the front cameras low resolutions are done so when using apps like qik they won't use tons of bandwidth and will semi work on 3G.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk Pro.
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oh im sure its low res for taht reason but the evo front cam is 1.3MP whereas the epic has a .3MP(?) but the issue at hand is simply hardware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8060299&postcount=3
he explains it in that post, samsung made a fairly large boo-boo with that

That's absolutely correct,quadrant score means nothing,especially the free edition. It only gives you the overall score and not a break down. We all know the epic has a higher res due to it's super amoled screen and it's gpu. The high score is def.ly due to the Gpu. You would need the break down of the different areas that were tested.
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Yeah, solid phones either way. Hate, we must not. Embrace, we should. King, is Android.
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[Q] dissapointed in evo ??

so i have had evo 24 hours or less rooted ran several roms however running stock kernals not noticing anytthing special the quadrant scores are rediculous my wife has the shift scoring over the top of the nexus 2.2 and i am just barely getting under 1000 i am thinking about taking it back to the shack and getting the epic unless someone can talk me out of it and give me some pretty good reasons to stay with the evo i haven't even seen any o.c. kernals

Do whatever makes you happy. Why do you want complete strangers to talk you into something?
We're comin from a pure power source.

Rule # 1- Don't go by quadrant scores.
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+1 to that
We're comin from a pure power source.

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Quadrant scores mean nothing...

Quadrant scores is CRAP!
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This is true. Quadrant score are pointless.
And the Epic is crap. Good enough?

HipKat said:
This is true. Quadrant score are pointless.
And the Epic is crap. Good enough?
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Lol. +51
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bahahhahhaha go get an epic so people in that forum can read a post about how you aren't sure about it & see if they can talk you into keeping it.. oh yea, being disappointed with a year old phone is well.... disappointing.

+1 to quadrant scores. So many scores are the results of people dumping apps, and overclocking just for the score, and not for every day use.
That said there a several kernels so choose one that suits your rom
THAT said, if you think you might prefer the epic, go for it.
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.6.17

In addition to what everyone else has said about Quadrant, you can't expect the Evo to beat the Shift. Despite being clocked lower, it's a newer generation of chip than what we have in the Evo -- kind of how Core was "slower" than P4 op paper but was actually faster due to other improvements. So Evo vs Evo Shift isn't a fair comparison.
If you care that much about having the fastest phone you can, why'd you buy the Evo right now anyway? It's been out a year. The Epic has been out almost as long, so I don't think that's your answer either. Either get the Evo 3D or wait for the Photon or Samsung Galaxy S2. The Evo's no longer top of the line.

bfitzpatrickd2d said:
so i have had evo 24 hours or less rooted ran several roms however running stock kernals not noticing anytthing special the quadrant scores are rediculous my wife has the shift scoring over the top of the nexus 2.2 and i am just barely getting under 1000 i am thinking about taking it back to the shack and getting the epic unless someone can talk me out of it and give me some pretty good reasons to stay with the evo i haven't even seen any o.c. kernals
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You are not looking in the right place then. Lots of roms and kernels available. You can OC to your hearts content.
So, why, after 24 hours, would you thing the phone sucks? The versitility is one of the things that make this phone. You can try an AOSP rom with a tiamat or Netarcy kernel which will give you more options that you will ever need or one of the many stock roms that just have different levels of awesomeness in them.
But, to each their own. If you really don't like the Evo, don't keep it. I think that would be a mistake but I'm not you. You have got to do whats best for you.
It is a little older phone hardware wise and the shift does have a 2nd gen processor, even though its clocked slower than the Evo, It can test better, but what about the Dev community support? If your rooted, the possibilityes are endless with the original Evo.

My wife took her epic back to the store she did not like it and touch wiz is the wrose keep your evo or go get the 3d if you just got the phone that would have been my first choice anyway and the scores on that phone is grate
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the reason i am dissapointed is for one i expecting the overclocking to be a bit more that 1.1 stable pretty lame considering i have a asus transformer stock 1 ghz now running rooted custom kernal at 1.6 can go all the way to 1.7 is it cause htc locked there kernal sourse and asus has a unlocker kernal sorse just not sure, cause i ran the net something kernal and couldn't do **** with it locked up my phone.

bfitzpatrickd2d said:
the reason i am dissapointed is for one i expecting the overclocking to be a bit more that 1.1 stable pretty lame considering i have a asus transformer stock 1 ghz now running rooted custom kernal at 1.6 can go all the way to 1.7 is it cause htc locked there kernal sourse and asus has a unlocker kernal sorse just not sure, cause i ran the net something kernal and couldn't do **** with it locked up my phone.
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like was mentioned previously, quad scores are meaningless. and IMHO, so is "how well a phone overclocks". for me, it's about support available (ROMS/etc) and options, how the phone actually feels (physical build), what the user experience is.
thus, I am in no way disappointed in my evo. I am almost sad to consider the idea of upgrading. sure, I want a dualcore... but I will miss this screen size (aspect ratio). And the f*cktons or ROM options with dev support.

bfitzpatrickd2d said:
the reason i am dissapointed is for one i expecting the overclocking to be a bit more that 1.1 stable pretty lame considering i have a asus transformer stock 1 ghz now running rooted custom kernal at 1.6 can go all the way to 1.7 is it cause htc locked there kernal sourse and asus has a unlocker kernal sorse just not sure, cause i ran the net something kernal and couldn't do **** with it locked up my phone.
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Look, you bought a 1 year old phone that's designed around a 2.5 year old processor. The transformer is a newer product built around a newer processor. If you want something faster than the Evo, there are other choices you could buy, including the Evo 3D. The Evo is still a great phone, but it's not top of the line anymore.
It's not a question of HTC locking anything down in the kernel -- it's just a processor that doesn't have as much room to overclock as others might. But there's a lot more to a phone's performance than clock speed.

kingdazy said:
like was mentioned previously, quad scores are meaningless. and IMHO, so is "how well a phone overclocks". for me, it's about support available (ROMS/etc) and options, how the phone actually feels (physical build), what the user experience is.
thus, I am in no way disappointed in my evo. I am almost sad to consider the idea of upgrading. sure, I want a dualcore... but I will miss this screen size (aspect ratio). And the f*cktons or ROM options with dev support.
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This is how I feel also

You know what?? It's a ****ing telephone. How goddamn fast do you need it to be.
I don't what it is, but I'm in a real live I-Hate-Whiny-*****es mood
WAAAAA. my overpriced telephone isn't as fast as my quad core computer...
Piss off.....

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You know what?? It's a ****ing telephone. How goddamn fast do you need it to be.
I don't what it is, but I'm in a real live I-Hate-Whiny-*****es mood
WAAAAA. my overpriced telephone isn't as fast as my quad core computer...
Piss off.....
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OK, I'm not in agreement with the OP, but I can't say I agree with this either. Honestly, making calls is among the least important features of my smartphone. Yeah I want it to do it, but I use my "phone" for so much more than that. There's nothing wrong with wanting the fastest and smoothest device we can get.
My beef with the OP is why he bought the Evo in the first place if that's his priority. It's mine, and I certainly wouldn't buy the Evo today. I don't regret buying it 9 months ago though. That, along with too much focus on meaningless benchmarks and clock speeds, are where I have a problem.
Now, if budget only allows for the Evo at its newly reduced price, then that's fine, but I still don't think it's fair to be "disappointed" by the performance of what is now a mid-tier phone, and it's especially not fair to compare it to a new Tegra 2 based tablet.

Opinions on HTC Desire Z/G2

I'm looking to buy a Desire Z as a gift, and wanted to get some second opinions on the phone. Is the keyboard decent? What's the speed like? How sturdy is the keyboard hinge?
Also, is it fairly easy to root?
I've got an original Desire myself so if it's a roughly similar experience to that but with a keyboard then that'll be good.
Cheers

It's a great phone, 2nd Gen Snapdragon, Adreno 205 GPU...but it is also fairly late in it's life. The keyboard is great, and while people have differing opinions on the hinge, I haven't had any problems.
Just know that it doesn't hold a candle to the 1GB Ram/Dual Core beasts being released today.
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The hinge problem has been previously blown up, it is fine.
I couldn't imagine living and typing longer than an sms without a keyboard, I still love it and use it for longer input. If I was buying a phone now I probably could sacrifice the keyboard for a front camera or more CPU power or so. I could even buy a Desire S or a Sensation (just to be in this pricerange). Phones change quickly, quadband is here, I still love this phone.
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in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now rooting isn´t that easy, but not very hard too (if you know how to use adb, you are fine) If you are on 2.3+ it could happen that you need to create a goldcard while rooting...
...what rather concerns me right now is the fact that a lot of people seem to have a problem with a fried emmc chip.
here is a link to the wiki-guide for rooting (so you see how its done):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision

Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.

h0kum said:
Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.
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You won't regret it! Great phone with great devs taking care of it
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Like everyone said is great options is not a bad phone every 3d games or apps i like is here. U can use hulu plus and netflix. Adobe flash player 11.
Gameloft hd games
Glu hd games
And other what not to like about this phone? lol
does hd recording 720 p.
It have best keyboard after g1.

in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now
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I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!

WTF? said:
I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!
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An iPhone
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An iPhone
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Ahah u can't be serious because the iphail contains none of the above..
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I concur, there is nothing else out there I could see me replacing it with at the moment. I need a hardware keyboard.. More ram and a faster CPU would be handy though... Refreshed DZ required

Great phone, and i will use this as long as it works. I'v had this about little over 11months now, no problems. Only thing is, screen has one frozen pixel in it, tough it's on the side, close to a corner so i barely even notice it, if i look for it, i can see it.
There is Motorola Droid 4 coming, sure looks nice whit that 5-row qwerty. If i would have waited a year longer to upgrade to smartphone world, id get it when it comes.
Now i'm planing on getting a tablet, to get the horsepower going on android. possibly transformer prime, or smth, wonder what CES brings to the table.
I love this phone! Sorry i got drifted to little off topic here.

I won't get another phone until there is a worthy successor. I would like to stick with HTC and I need a qwerty KB (well strongly prefer to have one) so here is hoping for a G3 sometime soon.
Until then though I still get great performance so no immediate rush.

There was also a Samsung qwerty slider I was reading about a while back, can't seem to find the article anymore.

Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens

fredcorp6 said:
Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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spec: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_captivate_glide-4071.php
look awesome tho. its like galaxy s2+keyboard

hopefully Q1 2012..
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ewww iphone unless u want to be locked. Even with android without rooting u still will not be lock as you are with iphone.
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I agree with flinny if they can refresh desire z 2 aka htc t-mobile g3 with stock in usa. I would love to have front face camera,1gb of ram i hate using my mirror to video chat. Get amoled screen back like nexus one. Add the hardware 5 key rows they had on g1 to g3 .
Hopefully stop selling to many damn Htc phone their selling about 10-15 device every year i wish they can stay with 3-5. Limited their work because then they make users like me hack my phone to get update, that they should be doing themselves. Instead of making excuses on why they cant update 1 device to the other.

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Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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Looked very interesting to me at first, but reviews have been far from stellar:
[URL="http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-captivate-glide-at/4505-6452_7-35033579.html?tag=mncol;rvwBody#reviewPage1"]http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/20/review-samsung-captivate-glide-att/[/URL]
Looks like cheap exterior build quality, and crappy flat keyboard. Nice screen, but hardware specs are merely ok compared to other high end phones currently being released. A Galaxy IIS spec phone with decent keyboard would be killer. But this ain't that.
Can't any manufacturers come out with a high-spec phone, with a decent keyboard?

I traded my EVO yesterday

I traded my EVO 4G for Galaxy S2 (Epic) like I planned months ago when they announced Galaxy S2 for first time. I want to thank each of you guys here for help, tweaks, mods, ROM's and other things that kept my EVO running better. I will step by periodically to check if anyone needs help with something that I can help with, but moving primary interest to Samsung S2 sub-forum.
If anyone wonders I traded EVO plus $110 for Galaxy and Galaxy is awesome and crazy fast and EVO is let's face it - hardware outdated for current and next upcoming android versions.
Thanks again and Happy new year !

http://www.thomasverbeek.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/super-cool-story-bro.pngCool story bro.
Boo

erik077 said:
I traded my EVO 4G for Galaxy S2 (Epic) like I planned months ago when they announced Galaxy S2 for first time. I want to thank each of you guys here for help, tweaks, mods, ROM's and other things that kept my EVO running better. I will step by periodically to check if anyone needs help with something that I can help with, but moving primary interest to Samsung S2 sub-forum.
If anyone wonders I traded EVO plus $110 for Galaxy and Galaxy is awesome and crazy fast and EVO is let's face it - hardware outdated for current and next upcoming android versions.
Thanks again and Happy new year !
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erik077 said:
I traded my EVO 4G for Galaxy S2 (Epic) like I planned months ago when they announced Galaxy S2 for first time. I want to thank each of you guys here for help, tweaks, mods, ROM's and other things that kept my EVO running better. I will step by periodically to check if anyone needs help with something that I can help with, but moving primary interest to Samsung S2 sub-forum.
If anyone wonders I traded EVO plus $110 for Galaxy and Galaxy is awesome and crazy fast and EVO is let's face it - hardware outdated for current and next upcoming android versions.
Thanks again and Happy new year !
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I'll just leave this here.

I need not say anything smh
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You did what...lol

Samsung has given me so many problems. I do like the galaxy, but just don't wanna go back to samsung's stock UI.
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canievision said:
Samsung has given me so many problems. I do like the galaxy, but just don't wanna go back to samsung's stock UI.
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Boo

lol!. . . . . .

Gotta love the immature responses. Wow. Are we in kindergarten?
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I wont lie, I've thought about it...but the wife has the OG epic and i cant stand working on that thing. the specs on the touch are GREAT. but i dont think i could get rid of the Evo...now if they had a stable aosp ics rom i'd REALLY think about it.

n8te_1 said:
I wont lie, I've thought about it...but the wife has the OG epic and i cant stand working on that thing. the specs on the touch are GREAT. but i dont think i could get rid of the Evo...now if they had a stable aosp ics rom i'd REALLY think about it.
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Samsung and sprint have both confirmed the sgs2 epic touch 4g will receive and official ICS update in Q1 of 2012 meaning by the end of March it will have an officially supported stock ICS rom
Sent from my iCS'd out EViL4G, soaking in a bowl of Ramen Noodles

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Samsung and sprint have both confirmed the sgs2 epic touch 4g will receive and official ICS update in Q1 of 2012 meaning by the end of March it will have an officially supported stock ICS rom
Sent from my iCS'd out EViL4G, soaking in a bowl of Ramen Noodles
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As an owner of both phones I must say the battery life on the Epic is quite nice and working on them now is not an issue as another poster mentioned. I read about the OG Epic issue and as of right now its flash city over there. CM7 and MIUI is coming up. Not telling you to change but saying if you want to Epic is a good look...

yea...its very tempting...maybe sprint will drop a bomb at CES (doubt it) i work for sprint on the wireline side of the house so upgrades arent too difficult to get. its just hard to leave the evo, plus i'd have to wait for a dev to pull touchwiz...some ppl like it, but i dont. just a fan of aosp's...the touch will have it soon i'm sure.
running ics evervolv rom with the camera and gps zip flashed and i love it. few hiccups here and there but deff on its way to some solid goodness.

I made the switch too only because my evo charging port fell out and the evo was starting to get a little stale since having it from release day. My wife has had the first epic 4g since launch and i hate that thing with a passion. But the epic 4g touch is a totally different beast. Its like the first couple months of having the evo, i cant put this thing down. Its bigger, way faster, thinner, lighter, and the battery lasts me all day for once. Speaking of fast, i had gotten so used to the "Android" lag that i didnt even notice it anymore. But if there is a phone out there that completely takes the lag out of Android its this phone. Wow. I have a whole new perspective on Samsung. 1.2ghz dual core is quite a jump from 1ghz. And it overclocks to 1.7ghz dual core!!! I thank my EVO for being the best phone of my life while it lasted, but i honestly can say it is not missed! Thanks to all the devs and members who kept the EVO at the top of the cellphone food chain, but evolution has just kicked in! (pun intended)

^ this.
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gsx62391 said:
I made the switch too only because my evo charging port fell out and the evo was starting to get a little stale since having it from release day. My wife has had the first epic 4g since launch and i hate that thing with a passion. But the epic 4g touch is a totally different beast. Its like the first couple months of having the evo, i cant put this thing down. Its bigger, way faster, thinner, lighter, and the battery lasts me all day for once. Speaking of fast, i had gotten so used to the "Android" lag that i didnt even notice it anymore. But if there is a phone out there that completely takes the lag out of Android its this phone. Wow. I have a whole new perspective on Samsung. 1.2ghz dual core is quite a jump from 1ghz. And it overclocks to 1.7ghz dual core!!! I thank my EVO for being the best phone of my life while it lasted, but i honestly can say it is not missed! Thanks to all the devs and members who kept the EVO at the top of the cellphone food chain, but evolution has just kicked in! (pun intended)
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^^^This guy aint lying, when you guys get a chance go and pickup Epic Touch, its a hell of a phone. I know this is an Evo forum and I have both but he is not lying it will make you not miss your Evo as hard as that is for me to say.

gsx62391 said:
I made the switch too only because my evo charging port fell out and the evo was starting to get a little stale since having it from release day. My wife has had the first epic 4g since launch and i hate that thing with a passion. But the epic 4g touch is a totally different beast. Its like the first couple months of having the evo, i cant put this thing down. Its bigger, way faster, thinner, lighter, and the battery lasts me all day for once. Speaking of fast, i had gotten so used to the "Android" lag that i didnt even notice it anymore. But if there is a phone out there that completely takes the lag out of Android its this phone. Wow. I have a whole new perspective on Samsung. 1.2ghz dual core is quite a jump from 1ghz. And it overclocks to 1.7ghz dual core!!! I thank my EVO for being the best phone of my life while it lasted, but i honestly can say it is not missed! Thanks to all the devs and members who kept the EVO at the top of the cellphone food chain, but evolution has just kicked in! (pun intended)
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I gots to agree. I made the switch about 3 months ago and I not looking back. Well I am for CM7, but the phone even with the stock Touchwiz (oh the horror) is actually pretty good. This is coming from a guy who had the Moment and I said I would never buy another Samsung phone gain. I probably would have kept the Evo if the charging port didnt break.

So for all you former evo owners now on the ET4G, how's the reception (phone, data, gps)? Is it as bad as people say about Samsungs?

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So for all you former evo owners now on the ET4G, how's the reception (phone, data, gps)? Is it as bad as people say about Samsungs?
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I haven't had a problem yet that my evo didn't face. But I've been rooted since the moment I got this phone. This phone does show 3 bars where my evo would show full, but I have done multiple speed tests and I'm still getting the same speeds even though the E4gt shows less bars. I recall having this problem with the first couple of builds for the evo too. I've tried every modem out there and they all show the same bars and speeds for me. So either I'm not affected by it in my area or people really just need to see more bars to think it has a better radio. either way it's sprint so you can't expect to much in the way of speed and strength of signal.
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Anyone Else Tired of Their Desire Z/G2?

Honestly not sure if its the phone or the OS Im tired of. Have been using my G2 for over a year, been using Android for the same amount of time (G2 was my first Android device). Lately I haven't been interested in trying any ROMs, none have really peaked my interest to be honest due to the little issues in them. Not sure what I should do from here......
End of small rant.
Anyone else feel the same way or am I alone?

I still love the phone but I am definitely getting a little bored with it. Same as with most things. After so long of use, it feels like it is time for something new.

I use MIUI and it seems the fastest and smoothest to me (probably as good as you can get on the hardware), so getting bored I try other ROMs but they aren't as smooth so I go back to MIUI. I think ICS might spice things up for a little while l, but I think an upgrade might help.
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It's called "consumerism". Just use your DZ till it dies of a natural death >.>

i wasn't bored of it, i was simply tired of the lag, missed messages and genrally just the lack of RAM.
i took the plunge and moved to the desire HD (couldnt afford anything newer)
and i notice the difference in ram immediately, there are LOADS more apps open at once now, and everything just generally feels snappier. and even with all my apps open i have 100mb+ ram left, constantly,
it's a shame that the DZ didnt have more ram, because otherwise i think i could've stuck with it for so much longer.

boost3d23 said:
.... Lately I haven't been interested in trying any ROMs, none have really peaked my interest to be honest...
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Damnit I thanked instead of quoting at first. Oh well.
It's "piqued," FYI.

I still use mine all the time. I have ICS on it. And with supercharger it's plenty fast. And I can text sweet things to my gf much easier and quicker using the keyboard. That being said get a hercules and rock both.
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What's with all of these posts really...If you're "tired" of the phone go buy another one and use this as a backup. A lot of people do it lately.

Sure - I would be happy to buy a new phone, just as soon as you can invent a phone that has the G2's reliability, developer support, style, at least as good of a real keyboard, display quality, and make sure it works with T-mobile so I can have unlimited everything, including wifi hotspot, free tethering and free wifi calling, and no overage charges possible for only $60/month no-contract!
Yeah, that's what I thought, the G2 has no upgrade that can be made, because it is the best phone/carrier combo out there!
But I do wish there was a magical way to have the reception in rural area and LTE deep building penetration that I envy on Verizon (but I don't envy paying nearly $200/month for the features listed above!)

Still love my phone since the day I got it. Reliable and tough, stylish and sleek. I do look forward to an upgrade, but it's not something that i'm set my heart to. Can't really beat the DZ =)

Can someone just lock this post? It's so silly to post stuff like this.
If you're tired of it, then get a new phone.

g2 has been an awesome phone especially for my first Android phone but I can't wait for the next g series or maybe I'll try out the gnex. Contracts not up till October so hopefully there'll be something cool out then

After a year of using something u naturally get bored of it but if ur that boored of it try getting a mytouch4gslide
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Not bored,
I recently tried a few things to give my G2 a different look and feel. Here's what I have:
meXdroidMod Atomic ROM -- been using meXdroidMod for awhile now
GO Launcher EX ICS theme -- cool screen transitions, my favorite is sphere
GO Locker -- ICS style, and I don't have date and time showing
GO SMS Pro -- I have had this for awhile
GO Weather -- besides HD video background, I like the Temperature Trend among some of the other features
With a couple of apps and also creating shortcuts to access them easily and quickly, i find my G2 very useful and not boring. Now if only I had a bigger screen...

I never understood this emotion where people get bored of things and feel the need to get the newest stuff. To me, the G2 is a solid device and the only time I would ever think of changing is out of necessity: not so much boredom. If I needed a faster GPU or a larger screen or better speakers and so forth: I can definitely understand the decision then because you have a practical purpose for the future device. But to be bored of a device and wanting to upgrade for no other reason because of it is exactly what companies want you to do. convolution put it best, "consumerism", but I would also add the word "affluence" as well.

WTF? said:
Sure - I would be happy to buy a new phone, just as soon as you can invent a phone that has the G2's reliability, developer support, style, at least as good of a real keyboard, display quality, and make sure it works with T-mobile so I can have unlimited everything, including wifi hotspot, free tethering and free wifi calling, and no overage charges possible for only $60/month no-contract!
Yeah, that's what I thought, the G2 has no upgrade that can be made, because it is the best phone/carrier combo out there!
But I do wish there was a magical way to have the reception in rural area and LTE deep building penetration that I envy on Verizon (but I don't envy paying nearly $200/month for the features listed above!)
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Lol you must be delusional. This is a great phone, but as soon as I find a nexus s I'm going back. Not only is the phone faster in both the CPU and gpu department, the wolfson sound chip is a god send for music lovers (the g2 can't power my 120$ Sony earbuds and as a result aren't as loud/bass cuts out at low frequencies) , you can't beat the samoled screen (after a little tweaking with voodoo colors it gives a better pq than my 40" ex400) and to top it off ics is smooth as a gyroscope. I can't tell a difference scrolling around home screens and menus compared to my buddies gnex. Dev support is off the charts. IMO the nexus s is the device to have over a gnex or gs2.
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RushAOZ said:
Lol you must be delusional. This is a great phone, but as soon as I find a nexus s I'm going back. Not only is the phone faster in both the CPU and gpu department, the wolfson sound chip is a god send for music lovers (the g2 can't power my 120$ Sony earbuds and as a result aren't as loud/bass cuts out at low frequencies) , you can't beat the samoled screen (after a little tweaking with voodoo colors it gives a better pq than my 40" ex400) and to top it off ics is smooth as a gyroscope. I can't tell a difference scrolling around home screens and menus compared to my buddies gnex. Dev support is off the charts. IMO the nexus s is the device to have over a gnex or gs2.
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Ill tell you what though. This battery life is AMAZING. Running ilwt cm7 @1.3 ghz ondemand with backround data on.
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WTF? said:
Sure - I would be happy to buy a new phone, just as soon as you can invent a phone that has the G2's reliability, developer support, style, at least as good of a real keyboard, display quality, and make sure it works with T-mobile so I can have unlimited everything, including wifi hotspot, free tethering and free wifi calling, and no overage charges possible for only $60/month no-contract!
Yeah, that's what I thought, the G2 has no upgrade that can be made, because it is the best phone/carrier combo out there!
But I do wish there was a magical way to have the reception in rural area and LTE deep building penetration that I envy on Verizon (but I don't envy paying nearly $200/month for the features listed above!)
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truth, it must be quoted. I've yet to see a newer phone with all the qualities I want in a phone. I'm extremely lucky that I got this phone with my family's contract, I had no idea of the developer support behind it when I did choose it.

G2 is my first android device too. And also one year I have been using it. I love my G2 just because it my "first time". I've tried almost every Rom from xda. And now using sense 3.5. But, frankly speaking, I'm considering t buy a new better one.
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RushAOZ said:
Lol you must be delusional. This is a great phone, but as soon as I find a nexus s I'm going back. Not only is the phone faster in both the CPU and gpu department, the wolfson sound chip is a god send for music lovers (the g2 can't power my 120$ Sony earbuds and as a result aren't as loud/bass cuts out at low frequencies) , you can't beat the samoled screen (after a little tweaking with voodoo colors it gives a better pq than my 40" ex400) and to top it off ics is smooth as a gyroscope. I can't tell a difference scrolling around home screens and menus compared to my buddies gnex. Dev support is off the charts. IMO the nexus s is the device to have over a gnex or gs2.
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Wow, that audio chip intrigues me. I primarily use my phone as a music player at the gym and I like my music loud. However I get distortion when I try to adjust the frequencies past a certain point. Is this Wolfson chip a solution?