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My Galaxy S Review

Hi guys, In just finished my Galaxy S review and would appreciate any constructive feedback
http://hemorrdroids.net/?p=528
It might also be useful for anyone trying to decide on buying one.
Thanks.

A comparison between the SGS and the Nexus with GPS test would be usefull.

Good, well writen review. I noticed the same thing, when I handed my phone to others, they always comment on how light it is. After unlocking, they are dazzled by the screen quality. The majority of my officemates use smartphones and know what OS, specs of their phones; Blackberry, Android, Symbian (Nokia) and iPhones and they comment on how nice the Galaxy S is. I have disabled TouchWiz for obvious reasons.

nice review, thx!
i will receive mine tomorrow. i feel like a little child on the day before christmas

I disagree with your interpretation of the camera test. The galaxy shots are much better. They show much better dynamic range. Look how the n1 clips the sky all over the place. Its almost hard to look at. The shadows are also very very dark and lack very much detail. Then look at the galaxy shot. The sky is clipped, but much less so. There is still detail in the clouds. In the shadows, there is also far more detail than in the nexus. The second photographs may not be as extreme but they certainly show the galaxy dealing much better with the high dinamic range situation. I would say the galaxy completely trounces the n1 in those two test shots.
edit: I think you are confusing global contrast with detail.

GPs test please
PS. I really enjoyed your review. It seems like a review from a real person not someone paid to do it or etc. man that phone takes great vids!
Also, canyon play with the camera setting & retry the pic test?
@snowboard
What's screen clipping: is it like tearing on monitors?

I spy a BBQ ! Om nom nom !
Seriously, nice review. Just ordered two SGS's

systoxity said:
GPs test please
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Yeah, I realised about 10 minutes after I posted it that I should have included a GPS test. I'll try and get one added this afternoon. I'll post when I do.
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I did a Streak review a couple of weeks back. Are there any other devices out there dying for a review? (UK devices of course )

ither side of this is a menu and back button, but no search. I can’t say I’ve missed search, you just go in through menu.
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If you really miss the search button, try pushing the menu button a little longer..
Also, it's a bit strange you didn't even try touchwiz.. I tried launcher pro, but the look and feel of touchwiz is much more consistent with the rest of the native apps. The speed of touchwiz (specially after nolag fix) is very good, no difference with launcher pro.
What i also like is the samsung market where you get, otherwise paid, apps for free. Like Vlingo Voice Command, Asphalt 5 and some other stuff..

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Also, it's a bit strange you didn't even try touchwiz.. I tried launcher pro, but the look and feel of touchwiz is much more consistent with the rest of the native apps. The speed of touchwiz (specially after nolag fix) is very good, no difference with launcher pro.
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Yeah, when I got it I was thinking more as a user and not a reviewer. I should have tried TouchWiz for a day to be able to give my own opinion on it, then switch to a different launcher so I can compare the two.
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What i also like is the samsung market where you get, otherwise paid, apps for free. Like Vlingo Voice Command, Asphalt 5 and some other stuff..
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Sounds cool, I didn't realise that tbh.
The GPS test is uploading to YouTube as I type, but it says it will be 99 minutes processing! Subscribe to the Hemorrdroids channel, or check back on the review in a couple of hours.
**EDIT** Okay, GPS test is added in

k2snowboards88 said:
I disagree with your interpretation of the camera test. The galaxy shots are much better. They show much better dynamic range. Look how the n1 clips the sky all over the place. Its almost hard to look at. The shadows are also very very dark and lack very much detail. Then look at the galaxy shot. The sky is clipped, but much less so. There is still detail in the clouds. In the shadows, there is also far more detail than in the nexus. The second photographs may not be as extreme but they certainly show the galaxy dealing much better with the high dinamic range situation. I would say the galaxy completely trounces the n1 in those two test shots.
edit: I think you are confusing global contrast with detail.
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Imo the nexus one looks better. So does alot of others...

Someone else suggested maybe I had a finger smudge on the lens when I took the SGS picture.
Have you looked at the folder full of pictures and videos? The link is nearer the end of the camera bit.

AndyCr15 said:
Someone else suggested maybe I had a finger smudge on the lens when I took the SGS picture.
Have you looked at the folder full of pictures and videos? The link is nearer the end of the camera bit.
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Are those all the sgs? Or mixed with nexus? They look pretty good..

You need to fix lous in this sentence. Nice review.
Although I don’t think it’s lous enough for me to take a shower and listen to it still, if I’m sat at my computer, I could have the SGS on the desk next to me a clearly hear the podcast player.

Thank you. Done

gd review, am looking to get one of these to replace desire, you guys think i should do it?

Great edits! i wish there was a review done exactly like this for the captivate

Is the Captivate what we would call the Samsung Wave over here in the UK?

temperbad said:
Imo the nexus one looks better. So does alot of others...
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The white balance of the n1 is a little cool and the white balance of the sgs is a little warm. The white balance is a personal preference. The n1 has a higher contrast curve and really poor dynamic range. The increased contrast is pribably what makes you like the photo more. The problem comes why you want detail in light and dark places. You can't do it. You can't reduce contrast in software in any helpful kind of way. The sgs has a rather flat contrast curve which can be increased using software or even another camera program to suit your tastes. It also will work in more diverse situations.

AndyCr15 said:
Is the Captivate what we would call the Samsung Wave over here in the UK?
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No, The Captivate is AT&T's version the the Galaxy. The Samsung Wave is a different phone.

Gizmodo's "The Ultimate Smartphone Camera Battle": Guess who the winner is?

Just read the article on Gizmodo.com that was posted this afternoon.
http://gizmodo.com/5663890/the-ultimate-smartphone-camera-battle
Guess who the winner is?
Yep, Samsung Epic 4G.
Not surprising though since I'm very happy with my camera.
As a smartphone camera, I think it's as good as it gets.

it is a good camera
evos is too slow this one is lightning fast

What a ridiculous test. Who runs these websites? Highschool kids? Middle school kids?
They are "testing" cameras while they:
- Take the photo from different angles
- Take the photo with different color clothes on the subject
- Allow the subject to change her hair
- are taking pictures on different days?
- What is this Censor word when talking about camera?? 7 times???
REALLY?!
LOL, these sites are such noobs.

tonysohn said:
Just read the article on Gizmodo.com that was posted this afternoon.
http://gizmodo.com/5663890/the-ultimate-smartphone-camera-battle
Guess who the winner is?
Yep, Samsung Epic 4G.
Not surprising though since I'm very happy with my camera.
As a smartphone camera, I think it's as good as it gets.
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As a person that came from an HTC Hero I can truly say that the Epic4G has made me believe in taking camera shots from a phone again. The 5 Megapixel camera on the Hero just doesn't compare.
I wish HTC would focus on installing a quality sensor rather than upping the Megapixels to make phone look better on paper. Its kinda like overclocking a CPU and Marketing it at that speed knowing damn well it well it would be more stable if it was clocked down a bit with similar performance.

J3ff said:
What a ridiculous test. Who runs these websites? Highschool kids? Middle school kids?
They are "testing" cameras while they:
- Take the photo from different angles
- Take the photo with different color clothes on the subject
- Allow the subject to change her hair
- are taking pictures on different days?
- What is this Censor word when talking about camera?? 7 times???
REALLY?!
LOL, these sites are such noobs.
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Even though the test controls were less than perfect they at least gave an unbiased review of all the pictures. You have to at least give them that. Isnt Gizmodo usually more inclined to Apple and their Iphone?

pg2k3 said:
Even though the test controls were less than perfect they at least gave an unbiased review of all the pictures. You have to at least give them that. Isnt Gizmodo usually more inclined to Apple and their Iphone?
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I give them nothing. The whole comparison is hogwash. You cannot compare something in a valid manner unless you do it the same way with every item you are comparing.

J3ff said:
I give them nothing. The whole comparison is hogwash. You cannot compare something in a valid manner unless you do it the same way with every item you are comparing.
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Lol this guy!! Pure jealousy s
Im not surprised at all...The EPIC is the best phone ever......it smashes the evo
Get over it evo owners.....
And the FLAMING begins

This article was written by Maximum PC and reposted by Gizmodo. Maximum PC is actually a little anti-iPhone. When it first came out they were all over, it but since Android became popular they've dropped everything else.
In fact, most Maximum PC editors are... surprise... anti-Apple! (who knew?)

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I give them nothing. The whole comparison is hogwash. You cannot compare something in a valid manner unless you do it the same way with every item you are comparing.
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That definitely would have required a universal tripod of some sort, As well as consistent test subjects completely across the board. Cuz as you pointed out, the angles were different in some of the pictures.

ultra78721 said:
Lol this guy!! Pure jealousy s
Im not surprised at all...The EPIC is the best phone ever......it smashes the evo
Get over it evo owners.....
And the FLAMING begins
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I own an Epic, my dad has the evo! LOL and I do think it has the best camera out of all of them!! I just can't stand when someone writes a steaming pile and then thinks it's somehow valid.

pg2k3 said:
That definitely would have required a universal tripod of some sort, As well as consistent test subjects completely across the board. Cuz as you pointed out, the angles were different in some of the pictures.
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A tripod, a dummy and some tape is all that they needed.

churro7 said:
it is a good camera
evos is too slow this one is lightning fast
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Not to mention u have to be in well lit areas the evo sucky camera does horrible in dark areas. The EPIC simply and obviously has a better camera than the evo. HANDS DOWN

Yea, the test was absolute garbage, but I do believe that the Epic has the nicest camera of all of those phones they tested. They could have easily taken pictures of stationary objects like fruit while placing the cameras sitting still in the exact same place. Same for the contrast shot of that chicks face. Put the phones on a stationary surface so they are not moving, and then take the pictures while telling the subject to be as still as possible.

J3ff said:
What a ridiculous test. Who runs these websites? Highschool kids? Middle school kids?
They are "testing" cameras while they:
- Take the photo from different angles
- Take the photo with different color clothes on the subject
- Allow the subject to change her hair
- are taking pictures on different days?
- What is this Censor word when talking about camera?? 7 times???
REALLY?!
LOL, these sites are such noobs.
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Excellent points. This test is garbage.

just that discredits the photos?

{VOTE} Who has the DHD camera problem?

OK, lets try and make it clear!
Please, ALL DHD owners, vote in order to see the real size of the problem!

dragunov said:
OK, lets try and make it clear!
Please, ALL DHD owners, vote in order to see the real size of the problem amongst the small number of world wide DHD owners who use XDA!
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There, fixed it for ya
I voted Yes btw... mine has it too.

My phone's camera is fine.

Thanx!
But, considering the fact that DHD owners that join XDA do it for unbranding, upgrading, rooting, etc, and do not come here ONLY for the camera problem, I believe that, if all of them vote (even those that do not have the problem), we will get a good percentage sample.
It is something like the exit-poles while voting . Use a small sample from the crowd. It usually gives good results, close to reality.

dragunov said:
Thanx!
But, considering the fact that DHD owners that join XDA do it for unbranding, upgrading, rooting, etc, and do not come here ONLY for the camera problem, I believe that, if all of them vote (even those that do not have the problem), we will get a good percentage sample.
It is something like the exit-poles while voting . Use a small sample from the crowd. It usually gives good results, close to reality.
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Haha, I know... I was only joking!
I think it's a good idea too. Maybe once enough people have voted we can send the results to HTC repair center

Yeah, the results could be a good "attachment" with the DHD for service

Mine is fine. No problems here.

Yes mine does,
Mine is currently with HTC at the moment, in for it's second repair in 4 weeks. The first repair was for the original blur on the left but when I got the phone back from them last Friday, the blur was still present and after a few hours of use - the camera started producing really fuzzy and bad photos and so I rang HTC up over the weekend and they re-booked the phone in for another repair. Weather the blur problem and this new fuzzy photo problem are related I don't know.
Liam

Camera works fine here.

Works fine for me. Using leeroid.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

everythings pretty fine since day 1
@ stock btw.
DN41

Well my point of view is that a lot of people are completly unable to make the difference between blurred and non blurred photos. Believe me, a lot of people don't care about that because that doesnt look like a problem for them. It's like sounds and colors, humans don't react the same way.
That reminds me, just look in the thread I started, the two first pictures on the beach, the blur thing is higly noticeable on the left. But some people came and said they couldn't see anything wrong. That's the way humans work. We're all different.
Also, this problem doesn't occur in low light condition, because low light condition make noisy pictures, and the blur is nearly impossible to determine in that case. Even outside in good light condition, if you shoot a close subject, the blur thing may not apear. It really shows in good light condition when you shoot things like landscapes, buildings or trees.
Many people will come here and vote "no problem" because they just don't simply have the apropriate pictures. If they vote after indoor pictures, it will not help and the vote doesn't mean anything.
Mine is faulty, and two friends of mine got faulty devices too. There were quite a good bunch of report about this issue on the forum. We can't say for sure that a lot of DHD are concerned, but well, who can seriously say the contrary ?? (except the die hard HTC fans ... hehe I know there are some here and there ..)
Anyway, I think there's enough to say that there is a little quality control problem at HTC

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Well my point of view is that a lot of people are completly unable to make the difference between blurred and non blurred photos. Believe me, a lot of people don't care about that because that doesnt look like a problem for them. It's like sounds and colors, humans don't react the same way.
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So... which group is right?

Luthor_70 is right. For instance, I rarely use the phone camera, and it took me 8-9 days after purchase, and motive from XDA-DEVS to test the camera and spot the problem (make the test with outdoor pic and good light cond.).
Junta_mpb, my friend, the point is not which DHD user doesnt care about the problem and who does. The point is that we have spent a good amount of money, and we need a 100% working product. It is the customers right to have in his hands exactly what he paid for.
IMHO, no one should neglect defects like these.

dragunov said:
Luthor_70 is right. For instance, I rarely use the phone camera, and it took me 8-9 days after purchase, and motive from XDA-DEVS to test the camera and spot the problem (make the test with outdoor pic and good light cond.).
Junta_mpb, my friend, the point is not which DHD user doesnt care about the problem and who does. The point is that we have spent a good amount of money, and we need a 100% working product. It is the customers right to have in his hands exactly what he paid for.
IMHO, no one should neglect defects like these.
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My point is to address the insinuation that a participating group is providing false information. Saying that if one phone has a camera problem and concluding that those who say otherwise just don’t care to notice or lying because of a blind love affair with HTC is not logic I would subscribe to. I could be wrong with jumping to that conclusion, but thats why I posted my question.
I agree that we paid good money for something that we would like to be perfect. I am not contesting that. There are phones with defects. The topic, however, is about the camera and I think this should be isolated.
I checked my images again, indoor, outdoor, with trees and one with a 5-legged cow. They are fine and I dont think its because I'm just inclined to say so.

Junta, you have a point here, but, as in all votes and researches, the factor of "error" always exists. You cannot be absolute about anything in this life. I am just trying to track down an approximation of the problem, and nothing else.
What I was trying to say is that, if you purchase a phone for, lets say, 200 euro, you cannot expect the quality of a phone that costs 600 euro (like DHD). Yes, the possibility of faulty devices is always there (only God can make something perfect). But, according to this vote (up to now), approximately 1 out of 3 has it. I personally know 2 more people (friends) with the same problem. Only my father's DHD is OK
And it could still be OK, although the size of the problem, IF HTC accepted that! They keep neglecting us, and fooling around with us. My phone is 10 days at service now, and when I called them they said that they still have no further info about the problem. For crying out loud, HTC has my phone more days in their hands than me! And according to previous experience, maybe a second visit will be required! This is the insane part.
Oh! I almost forgot! Please send me the picture with the 5 legged cow!
Kostas

(Sorry for my bad English).
Personally, I had 3 HD Desire HD and 2 had the perfect camera, but the strange thing is that the cameras are not only bad ones sold with the first phones, but also the latest build are defective, so it's a matter of luck in my opinion...
However, I propose to upload a photo of all those who vote, so we really understand the situation...
I start:
Uploaded with ImageShack.us

dragunov said:
Junta, you have a point here, but, as in all votes and researches, the factor of "error" always exists. You cannot be absolute about anything in this life. I am just trying to track down an approximation of the problem, and nothing else.
What I was trying to say is that, if you purchase a phone for, lets say, 200 euro, you cannot expect the quality of a phone that costs 600 euro (like DHD). Yes, the possibility of faulty devices is always there (only God can make something perfect). But, according to this vote (up to now), approximately 1 out of 3 has it. I personally know 2 more people (friends) with the same problem. Only my father's DHD is OK
And it could still be OK, although the size of the problem, IF HTC accepted that! They keep neglecting us, and fooling around with us. My phone is 10 days at service now, and when I called them they said that they still have no further info about the problem. For crying out loud, HTC has my phone more days in their hands than me! And according to previous experience, maybe a second visit will be required! This is the insane part.
Oh! I almost forgot! Please send me the picture with the 5 legged cow!
Kostas
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Let me see if I can PM it to you.
Cheers!
Edit: I dont seem to have access to my flickr account at work. Ill find a way around it.

junta_mpb said:
Let me see if I can PM it to you.
Cheers!
Edit: I dont seem to have access to my flickr account at work. Ill find a way around it.
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What's your Flickr name, I'll find it and post for you

CitizenLee said:
What's your Flickr name, I'll find it and post for you
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I still have to upload it. Let me try using my phone.

Cant believe what SE dev team is doing.

Sony ericsson wants to control the brightness of their phones it seems. At first there was just no option at all to disable auto brightness and now they give the option where 100% brightness turns it off otherwise it will always be dynamically controlled. How pathetic is this? Well maybe someone likes the way they handle it but how can you possibly not give the option? Does SE think all it's users are noobs who need to be told how to save battery?
Then comes the camera compression issue. Once again SE thinks the users are noobs and would be running out of space on their phones and would complain and blah blah. While the camera is still really good for normal photos once you zoom in or crop it quickly becomes a pile of garbage.
So a beautiful display limited by the software, an awesome camera limited by the software. I know you can root and all but thats not something everyone wants to do.
It seems the design is like the only thing SE can get right, I really wanted to get arc S white which is like the best looking android phone I have ever seen. But I didnt mostly for the 2 serious problems I mentioned. Even if they fix them in some upcoming update the very fact that these are not bugs and are intentional decisions makes me wonder what other EDIT up SE is going to decide for it's customers in the future.
It's such a wasted potential it's really irritating.

Lots of things are changing at sony, software is a small part of it you know eventually you will be able to get the best out of the hardware in your own ways.

Still waiting for a dev to make a camera compression mod, arc s camera was a huge let down
Sent from my LT18i using XDA App

While I agree that there should be a way to enable and disable the automatic brightness, I'm inclined to believe that SE has their reasons for the camera picture compression.
They wouldn't artificially limit the performance of the camera on their phone if they didn't have a reason, and I highly doubt it's because they think the users are "noobs". Also you have to remember that with ICS in the works, they're not going to put that much effort into fixing gingerbread issues, especially since the camera libraries/drivers are very different in ICS.
I know the camera compression issue has been around even before the ICS release, so it could just be some tradeoff/limitation in gingerbread and SE decided to opt for performance over quality (when taking pictures).
Just my thought on this, but I think it's a little too early to be judging.

So why are you going to post these things while almost people know it for a long time?

silveraero said:
So why are you going to post these things while almost people know it for a long time?
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Because these are unacceptable problems and need to be pointed out more and more.

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Because these are unacceptable problems and need to be pointed out more and more.
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And then what will happen?

is there a way around the camera compression as of now? i hate the picture quality when i zoom in.

auto brightness
Maybe the camera backlit sensor is the reason. try this, slide the brightness to 0 then capture a very low light scene. then compare with brightness above 30 or 50.
it makes big difference. perhaps it's used to compensate. those coming from x1 might remember with camera was used brightness always go to maximum.
just my thought.

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And then what will happen?
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Maybe they will finally listen to the complaints? The internet has very big influence these days, we have seen this time and time again.

D-jack said:
Maybe the camera backlit sensor is the reason. try this, slide the brightness to 0 then capture a very low light scene. then compare with brightness above 30 or 50.
it makes big difference. perhaps it's used to compensate. those coming from x1 might remember with camera was used brightness always go to maximum.
just my thought.
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Well but thats never going to be enough, there is a reason why all other good cameraphones have a file size about 3x more at the same resolution.

as you say,it is the best looking android phone,so,don't complain

Seriously??? A new thread about autobrightness?
Could you be any more whiny?
The screen is JUST FINE, autobrightness-schmautobrightness...
You don't like it, get another phone and kiss us goodbye.
Although I bet a $100 that you will find something terribly and devastatingly wrong with it too.
PM me for my paypal account.

It controlls the brightness perfect.
Nothing to complain about.
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These are NOT serious issues!
Can you view the phone display clearly? Yes
Can the phone take decent photos? Yes
You need to have some proper worries in your life to put things in perspective! Or you could just have a winge on twitter at them too!

Lusterboi said:
is there a way around the camera compression as of now? i hate the picture quality when i zoom in.
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You cannot review the picture quality when zooming in on the phone in the gallery app with Bravia activated. It does some odd stuff to enhance details on screen that also will make the picture look ugly when zooming in. At least I think it is due to Bravia engine, picture looks fine opening it in Quickpic on Android or on pc.
There is no noticeable jpg compression artifications visibile to my eye when viewing the picture on my pc, even comparing it to pictures from my dslr of the same motive.
You can use ProCapture camera app to take pictures with less jpg compression but I doubt you will be able to see any difference from the normal compression.

bigyinn said:
These are NOT serious issues!
Can you view the phone display clearly? Yes
Can the phone take decent photos? Yes
You need to have some proper worries in your life to put things in perspective! Or you could just have a winge on twitter at them too!
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You have very low standards it seems, when the competition is offering better things it is a serious issue. We are in a mobile forum, you can talk about other issues of life somewhere else.
And when I am gaming in the dark I really donot enjoy having automatic brightness, I want like 50% brightness as 100% is too much and auto is too low.
Sony is being like apple, giving you ridiculous restrictions that make no sense.

Use an app for cameramagic. Uses digital zoom with not much compression. However even i tend to stick to stock camera because its just bang on
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You have very low standards it seems, when the competition is offering better things it is a serious issue. We are in a mobile forum, you can talk about other issues of life somewhere else.
And when I am gaming in the dark I really donot enjoy having automatic brightness, I want like 50% brightness as 100% is too much and auto is too low.
Sony is being like apple, giving you ridiculous restrictions that make no sense.
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If you feel the competition is offering better things, get the competition and whine about it later. Leave us in peace

pandaball said:
If you feel the competition is offering better things, get the competition and whine about it later. Leave us in peace
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While I don't really care about this topic and not bothered about the brightness.
Why don't you leave the thread in peace? He wants to have a discussion so let him!
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Advanced Calling update fixed camera lag for me

At first I thought I was dreaming but sure enough since the update the shutter lag is almost gone. It was a 230MB update, it seems like they updated a lot of stuff. Also my battery life is much better since the update from what I've seen.
Great stuff.

Mine seems better as well. My battery doesn't drop from 100 to 99 in the 1st 10 seconds anymore either lol

Seems about the same

cyberr8der said:
Mine seems better as well. My battery doesn't drop from 100 to 99 in the 1st 10 seconds anymore either lol
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Camera seems the same to me, I didn't have complaints before though. I think the reason it drops to 99 right away is because the phone charges to 100% then charging turns off and starts charging again at 99%, so you may have just unplugged at a more opportune moment.

Camera still lags massively for the front facing camera

Not seeing much of an improvement on camera lag here... Still pretty terrible.

Still lags and sucks. lol

I definitely got better battery and rear camera is a little better.. Front facing still sucks

rx2mazda said:
Still lags and sucks. lol
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Took great pics for me today...
Maybe its the user that sucks
PS--Let it focus first!

cold21blooded said:
I definitely got better battery and rear camera is a little better.. Front facing still sucks
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Most FFCs suck.

adrynalyne said:
Took great pics for me today...
Maybe its the user that sucks
PS--Let it focus first!
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You do realize what everyone is saying sucks is the very thing you say in your "p.s", right?
The fact you do have to wait so long before it focuses and takes a picture is what sucks about it. Any decent smartphone doesn't come close with how long this camera takes.

I tap it, it focuses, it takes the shot.
I must be missing the problem here.
I'm aware it has a slow shutter but that doesn't make it suck. It means I need to use it differently until they fix it.
It could be worse. It could take pics uber fast and never truly focus, ala gnex. There was no fixing that garbage camera.
This all reminds me of my wife. She has always taken my hand me downs. She wanted my Note 2, because it took great pics.
Then she got it and they sucked. Then she wanted my Note 3 because it took great pics. Then she said something was wrong because her camera shots came out bad.
Then she got a Note 4 because of the camera. She complains about the pics again. We went on a trip yesterday and both snapped pics. She doesn't understand why my Turbo pics look so much better.
I have a secret weapon: I let it focus. Too many people take pics on their phones and are too impatient to even let them properly focus.

adrynalyne said:
I tap it, it focuses, it takes the shot.
I must be missing the problem here.
I'm aware it has a slow shutter but that doesn't make it suck. It means I need to use it differently until they fix it.
It could be worse. It could take pics uber fast and never truly focus, ala gnex. There was no fixing that garbage camera.
This all reminds me of my wife. She has always taken my hand me downs. She wanted my Note 2, because it took great pics.
Then she got it and they sucked. Then she wanted my Note 3 because it took great pics. Then she said something was wrong because her camera shots came out bad.
Then she got a Note 4 because of the camera. She complains about the pics again. We went on a trip yesterday and both snapped pics. She doesn't understand why my Turbo pics look so much better.
I have a secret weapon: I let it focus. Too many people take pics on their phones and are too impatient to even let them properly focus.
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That's the very problem for some of us - we don't have time to let it focus before we miss the shot we want. I have an 18 month old, if I can't capture something the split second it happens, the moment is gone. My S4 focused much quicker, and I've played around some with the G2 and G3, both of which are also faster. Don't get me wrong, the Turbo bests all of those phones in the categories that matter more to me, focusing and shutter speed (or lack thereof) is this phone's one flaw in my opinion. Both of which I really hope can be fixed with software tweaks. No reason this phone's HP shouldn't allow improvements there.

I definitely noticed an improvement in the front camera, even before I read any comments on here.

sdsurferbob said:
That's the very problem for some of us - we don't have time to let it focus before we miss the shot we want. I have an 18 month old, if I can't capture something the split second it happens, the moment is gone. My S4 focused much quicker, and I've played around some with the G2 and G3, both of which are also faster. Don't get me wrong, the Turbo bests all of those phones in the categories that matter more to me, focusing and shutter speed (or lack thereof) is this phone's one flaw in my opinion. Both of which I really hope can be fixed with software tweaks. No reason this phone's HP shouldn't allow improvements there.
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A phone camera has never been good for instant action though if you don't anticupate. They don't have the hardware for it imo. Ive seen people with ois make blurry shots snd blame the device.
Ive always learned to antcipate for good shots on a phone and is worked out pretty well. I'm sure the software will get improved. Last years motos had camera woes too that were largely addressed by software updates.

adrynalyne said:
A phone camera has never been good for instant action though if you don't anticupate. They don't have the hardware for it imo. Ive seen people with ois make blurry shots snd blame the device.
Ive always learned to antcipate for good shots on a phone and is worked out pretty well. I'm sure the software will get improved. Last years motos had camera woes too that were largely addressed by software updates.
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You keep missing the point here... the point those of us complaining is there are several phone's that exist today, many of which are generations behind the turbo that take pictures much faster than the turbo does (my GS3 and GS4 sdsurferbob mentioned being perfect examples).
Listen, I love my Turbo and have no regrets for choosing it, it's just super disappointing and almost inexcusable for any feature of a "flagship" to be worse than phones 3+ years old.

timofcourse said:
You keep missing the point here... the point those of us complaining is there are several phone's that exist today, many of which are generations behind the turbo that take pictures much faster than the turbo does (my GS3 and GS4 sdsurferbob mentioned being perfect examples).
Listen, I love my Turbo and have no regrets for choosing it, it's just super disappointing and almost inexcusable for any feature of a "flagship" to be worse than phones 3+ years old.
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I think you missed my point. Im aware of the shortcomings but no amount of stating this will fix the problem. We as users can adjust until then, however.
Im aware of phones that snap better pics, because ive owned them. However somehow i take better pics with my turbo than my wife with her note 4. The only variable is the user right? Ive learned to overcome. We CAN take good pics. Or we can tell everyone the camera sucks and just suffer because we don't want to take the time to do better. I chose the prior and I get great pics.
I'll be happy when moto fixes the camera, but until then I will adapt.

Got my Moto Maxx today and I was expecting the camera to be very slow, and its way faster than what I've seen on some reviews. Still not as fast as it should be but I'm confindent Lollipop will solve all camera problems.

Lower the resolution and it takes them even faster.

It's a phone with a camera to me. If I'm going to an event and pics are important I have a camera to bring. If I need one spur of the moment this camera works fine for me. Just my opinion.