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[Q] LG G2 or wait.

Hello I'm having the hardest time deciding if I should wait to upgrade since the galaxy s5 and htc one/two are right around the corner or if I should just get the G2 for Christmas. The G2 seems like a great phone but it also seems to have it's fair share of issues, I'm worried that something much better might come out within a month or two. Anyway just looking for advice thanks!

luke10702 said:
Hello I'm having the hardest time deciding if I should wait to upgrade since the galaxy s5 and htc one/two are right around the corner or if I should just get the G2 for Christmas. The G2 seems like a great phone but it also seems to have it's fair share of issues, I'm worried that something much better might come out within a month or two. Anyway just looking for advice thanks!
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What are the issues that concern you?

Seriously what issues?
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robogo1982 said:
What are the issues that concern you?
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I've been reading through some of the forums and heard that external speakerphone has very low decibel levels,camera video is poor quality due to shaky focus, and the knock-ON feature doesn't work reliably. One other thing that concerns me is android development behind the phone since it's not that popular. Also the design could be better but the screen is gorgeous.

My 2c. There is no perfect phone. IPhone, Samsung, lg, HTC, they all have their quirks and disappointments. But it's matter of if you can find a way to overcome it.
Camera is fantastic. And you being here means you are willing to do more than just complain. Root, remove bloat, update camera app. Knock 3 times instead of 2.
And personally if you do more than just play with your phone, ie use for work. Custom ROM other than modified stock ROM will just be way too buggy.
My honest opinion is that they are really 3 viable Android phones out there. The Sony Z, nexus5 and G2. After having gone through several Samsung phones, I'll never buy another Samsung.
Between the 3 above get the lg if battery life is important to you. Because that is the only thing you absolutely cannot change.
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insang-droid said:
My 2c. There is no perfect phone. IPhone, Samsung, lg, HTC, they all have their quirks and disappointments. But it's matter of if you can find a way to overcome it.
Camera is fantastic. And you being here means you are willing to do more than just complain. Root, remove bloat, update camera app. Knock 3 times instead of 2.
And personally if you do more than just play with your phone, ie use for work. Custom ROM other than modified stock ROM will just be way too buggy.
My honest opinion is that they are really 3 viable Android phones out there. The Sony Z, nexus5 and G2. After having gone through several Samsung phones, I'll never buy another Samsung.
Between the 3 above get the lg if battery life is important to you. Because that is the only thing you absolutely cannot change.
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These are all good points, just one more question then, if roms you think will be too buggy how is lg at updating to the latest version of android?

LG G2 is an outstanding choice for now, IMHO.
I realized that no matter how attractive a new phone's reviews or announcements get, there would always be a few minor issues or dislikes rising up after a couple of weeks hands-on playing. Phones are not designed by end users and LG team got to stick with their budgets and timeline.
G2 camera appeared very impressive me. "Optical" image stabilizer is a bonus point making the difference - simply with default app and settings, it can make awesome low-light/indoor photos. I was able to take a few decent photos when lights were really dim. Read some posts about its focusing speed as capturing moving objects in low lighting; no chance to try that yet but that task sounded quite a challenge to any phone cameras.
The only two issues caught my attention in daily uses are the screen flickering happening in certain places caused by the so called content adaptive back-lighting, and the brightness sensor output. Both are only noticeable in low-light settings and easy to work around them. Some said the content adaptive lighting is due to JB 4.22 OS. Hope a firmware/OS update will soon refine the g2.
Improve Photos on LG G2 Photos with Jishnu’s Camera Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48490991#post48490991
LG G2 Screen Brightness PROBLEM .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slwkFhpiYbs
Brightness sensor readings
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48490991#post48490991
G2 feels an ambitious and strong strike from LG. As a flagship model, the design and implementation could be further polished if bosses gave the team more time to work on it, well then we probably had to pay more bucks for having one...

harmonyxda said:
LG G2 is an outstanding choice for now, IMHO.
I realized that no matter how attractive a new phone's reviews or announcements get, there would always be a few minor issues or dislikes rising up after a couple of weeks hands-on playing. Phones are not designed by end users and LG team got to stick with their budgets and timeline.
G2 camera appeared very impressive me. "Optical" image stabilizer is a bonus point making the difference - simply with default app and settings, it can make awesome low-light/indoor photos. I was able to take a few decent photos when lights were really dim. Read some posts about its focusing speed as capturing moving objects in low lighting; no chance to try that yet but that task sounded quite a challenge to any phone cameras.
The only two issues caught my attention in daily uses are the screen flickering happening in certain places caused by the so called content adaptive back-lighting, and the brightness sensor output. Both are only noticeable in low-light settings and easy to work around them. Some said the content adaptive lighting is due to JB 4.22 OS. Hope a firmware/OS update will soon refine the g2.
Improve Photos on LG G2 Photos with Jishnu’s Camera Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48490991#post48490991
LG G2 Screen Brightness PROBLEM .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slwkFhpiYbs
Brightness sensor readings
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48490991#post48490991
G2 feels an ambitious and strong strike from LG. As a flagship model, the design and implementation could be further polished if bosses gave the team more time to work on it, well then we probably had to pay more bucks for having one...
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So are you trying to say i should wait? or buy? I'm feeling the vibe from both from what you said, which was very interesting.

luke10702 said:
Hello I'm having the hardest time deciding if I should wait to upgrade since the galaxy s5 and htc one/two are right around the corner or if I should just get the G2 for Christmas. The G2 seems like a great phone but it also seems to have it's fair share of issues, I'm worried that something much better might come out within a month or two. Anyway just looking for advice thanks!
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I was in the same boat as you 2 weeks ago, but AT&T changing their prices on the family plan forced me to get the LG G2. Some of the concerns I had before getting it are somewhat still there, especially the camera performance in low light. I haven't had any battery drain issues yet and so far battery life has been fantastic. back buttons aren't that bad, the placement makes sense sometimes, especially when you are on a call. knock on/off feature is great as well but as others have said, it doesn't work 100% of the time. Overall, it's a fantastic phone & i'm glad I got it.

Don't torture yourself by waiting. This phone is a beast...AND I've yet to install a custom ROM!

luke10702 said:
I've been reading through some of the forums and heard that external speakerphone has very low decibel levels,camera video is poor quality due to shaky focus, and the knock-ON feature doesn't work reliably. One other thing that concerns me is android development behind the phone since it's not that popular. Also the design could be better but the screen is gorgeous.
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Yes, the speaker is a little bit tinny, but it's not that quiet, I'd say it's fine. Camera video focus problems happen occasionally, nothing that a camera firmware update won't fix. Knock On works fine when you get the hang of it. This phone has a bunch of ROMs, but to be honest - you don't really need them. I got this phone and I left it completely stock and just rooted it - it's THAT good.
What's wrong with the design? I think it's a good looking phone.

robogo1982 said:
Yes, the speaker is a little bit tinny, but it's not that quiet, I'd say it's fine. Camera video focus problems happen occasionally, nothing that a camera firmware update won't fix. Knock On works fine when you get the hang of it. This phone has a bunch of ROMs, but to be honest - you don't really need them. I got this phone and I left it completely stock and just rooted it - it's THAT good.
What's wrong with the design? I think it's a good looking phone.
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So it seems like it's an amazing phone but how do you think it will compete going into 2014??

robogo1982 said:
Yes, the speaker is a little bit tinny, but it's not that quiet, I'd say it's fine. Camera video focus problems happen occasionally, nothing that a camera firmware update won't fix. Knock On works fine when you get the hang of it. This phone has a bunch of ROMs, but to be honest - you don't really need them. I got this phone and I left it completely stock and just rooted it - it's THAT good.
What's wrong with the design? I think it's a good looking phone.
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Same here stock rooted; was thinking about a prettier launcher replacement but like to stay with some of the stock features. Always use the knock on without touching the power button now - very convenient design.
Increase speaker volume - two xda posts about an easy fix by editing the file snd_soc_msm_Taiko:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442883
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482750
I just push the back button to increase in-call volume to max when needed.
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luke10702 said:
So are you trying to say i should wait? or buy? I'm feeling the vibe from both from what you said, which was very interesting.
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That was just purely experience sharing for your reference. You'll get a great phone in either case.
My plan-renewal credit was available since July but htc one or s4 didn't make the urge for me to upgrade the phone, until last month I grabbed the G2 with a price tag of $50.

Few Questions about the Note 3

I currently have the HTC Rezound, and I'm seriously thinking about upgrading to the Note 3. I just have a few questions first for people that actually have the phone. I have a two year old son, so the camera is fairly important to me. I know a lot of people say get an actual camera, but I ALWAYS have my phone with me, so I want it to have a good camera. The Rezound does a decent job in most situation, or atleast to me it does. How does the Note 3 compare? I know that in well lit situations it is great, but what about low light? I've read that it is pretty good, but I've also read that it is horrible. So just curious what others think. Is there a lot of lag with the camera? I've also read conflicting views on that as well. Also, is the screen still pretty good out in sunlight? My phone is almost unusable in the sun.
I've also been thinking about just waiting til the announcement of the s5 to see what it is about, but some rumors point to it being speced the same as the note 3, but others put it with a lot more.
I really appreciate any feedback. I just want to make sure I'm making a good purchase, especially since I just missed the holiday sale.

I never had a Resound, but I have to say that I'm very satisfied with the camera on my N3. I never use a separate camera anymore.

I know the resound is a decent phone. Had one for about a week as a loaner while getting my Thunderbolt warranty replaced back in the day.
Note 3: camera is great! Better than most in low light. But not as good as an actual camera in those conditions. Lots of features, and a bunch of cool/fun filters can be added through the Samsung App Store - free and paid. The screen is nice! In both bright and dark settings.
The only thing I would caution you on (and this is a stretch) is the device size compared to hand size. Wouldn't think of it as a deal breaker for most, but just be prepared. If you have smaller hands, some things you've gotten used to doing with one hand may take some getting used to because you'll most likely start using two when you get this.
And PLEASE don't use Craigslist! A few too many people have gotten burned with phones from there!
♢NoteIII♢

I had a rezound for a long time & my 13 year old daughter is using it now.
The cameras aren't that much different really. Neither one will equal a digital camera in low light, but that's to be expected.
I get decent results with the Note 3 using a different camera software, but I was also a pro photographer for years & I understand all about ISO and white balance settings etc. etc.etc.

jagrave said:
I currently have the HTC Rezound, and I'm seriously thinking about upgrading to the Note 3. I just have a few questions first for people that actually have the phone. I have a two year old son, so the camera is fairly important to me. I know a lot of people say get an actual camera, but I ALWAYS have my phone with me, so I want it to have a good camera. The Rezound does a decent job in most situation, or atleast to me it does. How does the Note 3 compare? I know that in well lit situations it is great, but what about low light? I've read that it is pretty good, but I've also read that it is horrible. So just curious what others think. Is there a lot of lag with the camera? I've also read conflicting views on that as well. Also, is the screen still pretty good out in sunlight? My phone is almost unusable in the sun.
I've also been thinking about just waiting til the announcement of the s5 to see what it is about, but some rumors point to it being speced the same as the note 3, but others put it with a lot more.
I really appreciate any feedback. I just want to make sure I'm making a good purchase, especially since I just missed the holiday sale.
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The Note 3's camera is much better than the Rezound's, it has a Newer, Larger Sensor, Higher Resolution camera with much better optics than the Rezound with a rich feature set. If I had a Rezound, I would sell it in an instant, the Note 3 is worlds above in every catagory and you will be blown away by the difference. Trust me, my best friend had a Rezound, I would even take a Galaxy S3 over it any day of the weak.
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I had the Rezound for about a year and a half. The camera is better than the Rezound. If you love the Rezounds beautiful screen then you'll feel right at home on the note 3. The size can seem off putting, but after a day other phones will feel like toys. The note 3 is definitely the phone to go to from the Rezound in my opinion.
Galaxy Note 3, HTC Rezound, HTC Evo 3D, HTC Evo, HTC Touch Pro 2, LG Voyager

MKBHD chose our Device M8 his favorite phone of 2014

Smartphone Awards: 2014!: http://youtu.be/f6pPIG3EvAs
Yasssss

Legit.

Awesome. This phone rocks and Lollipop makes it even better.

Yeah I noticed this morning too!
Very cool. Analyzing every aspect, it's hard to disagree as it being the all around best phone. It really is solid - because even the camera, which is often pooh-poohed outside of these forums, has its strengths and is generally very serviceable all around, especially considering the amount you can adjust. The camera is arguably the weakest point because every other characteristic of this phone is above average, if not best-in-class.
Woot woot.

alias3800 said:
because even the camera, which is often pooh-poohed outside of these forums, has its strengths and is generally very serviceable all around
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THe only reason the camera isn't poo-poo'd ON the forums is because anyone who says anything bad about it is immediately screamed at by a team of fanatics.
It's a great phone with the worst camera in a flagship phone of the past 3 years at least.

thebobmannh said:
THe only reason the camera isn't poo-poo'd ON the forums is because anyone who says anything bad about it is immediately screamed at by a team of fanatics.
It's a great phone with the worst camera in a flagship phone of the past 3 years at least.
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It still takes MUCH better shots than my friend's LG G3.
I've tested it in person, and I don't give a darn if any biased reviewer says otherwise based on the numbers in the megapixel count.

Rouz. said:
It still takes MUCH better shots than my friend's LG G3.
I've tested it in person, and I don't give a darn if any biased reviewer says otherwise based on the numbers in the megapixel count.
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Sigh. I appreciate you attempting to prove my point, but I really didn't say that just to start ANOTHER thread where everyone defends the camera and insists it's just "bias" that makes every single reviewer and reasonable person diss the camera. I just wanted to point out that there are plenty of owners of M8's who are disappointed in teh camera but have been cowed into keeping our traps shut.

thebobmannh said:
THe only reason the camera isn't poo-poo'd ON the forums is because anyone who says anything bad about it is immediately screamed at by a team of fanatics.
It's a great phone with the worst camera in a flagship phone of the past 3 years at least.
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To be completely honest, I just don't see it as THAT terrible. Especially not in lowlight. I've had the iPhone 6 and 6+ and just about every Android phone. The biggest thing missing is detail; you can't zoom in worth a goddamn. And, I usually run my photos through snapseed for a quick editing of at least the color profile and the contrast. So, maybe I'm just being lenient because I'm not really one to just point and shoot and send. I crop, edit, etc. before doing anything with photos, regardless of the phone.
And I get that you don't like it but - the worst of any flagship in the past three years? There's probably a list of ten flagships in the past 3 years that are worse than this. Not to mention, at least you can manually control shots with this camera. Typically tuning down EV will control the blowing out of highlights (or not target-focusing, as I've read here in the forums). Lowering ISO for night shots is necessary at times too. But anyways.. Not the best dynamic range and detail but, you can get it to produce. And rather quickly too. I feel like this is the fastest flagship available. Hopefully lollipop doesn't bog it down with unnecessary transitions and animations.

alias3800 said:
To be completely honest, I just don't see it as THAT terrible. Especially not in lowlight. I've had the iPhone 6 and 6+ and just about every Android phone. The biggest thing missing is detail; you can't zoom in worth a goddamn. And, I usually run my photos through snapseed for a quick editing of at least the color profile and the contrast. So, maybe I'm just being lenient because I'm not really one to just point and shoot and send. I crop, edit, etc. before doing anything with photos, regardless of the phone.
And I get that you don't like it but - the worst of any flagship in the past three years? There's probably a list of ten flagships in the past 3 years that are worse than this. Not to mention, at least you can manually control shots with this camera. Typically tuning down EV will control the blowing out of highlights (or not target-focusing, as I've read here in the forums). Lowering ISO for night shots is necessary at times too. But anyways.. Not the best dynamic range and detail but, you can get it to produce. And rather quickly too. I feel like this is the fastest flagship available. Hopefully lollipop doesn't bog it down with unnecessary transitions and animations.
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It's absolutely not terrible, it's just not good, and is by far the worst thing about the phone for me.
"Worst in the past 3 years" is admittedly hyperbole as I obviously don't have access to every flagship of the past three years, and I"m sure SOMEONE has effed up worse somewhere, but it's the worst I've used since probably my iPHone 3. There may be ways to make it better with playing with settings, but as a daily driver "camera always in my pocket" it's the worst I've used in many years. If I wanted a DSLR that I had to meticulously to set up a shot with, I'd carry one. It's a camera phone, it should compromise some of the customization for quick and decent photos in most situations.

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It's absolutely not terrible, it's just not good, and is by far the worst thing about the phone for me.
"Worst in the past 3 years" is admittedly hyperbole as I obviously don't have access to every flagship of the past three years, and I"m sure SOMEONE has effed up worse somewhere, but it's the worst I've used since probably my iPHone 3. There may be ways to make it better with playing with settings, but as a daily driver "camera always in my pocket" it's the worst I've used in many years. If I wanted a DSLR that I had to meticulously to set up a shot with, I'd carry one. It's a camera phone, it should compromise some of the customization for quick and decent photos in most situations.
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Yeah, I'll agree with that. It definitely is the weakest point for the phone.
I'm also less critical of it now because I bought it during HTC's sale a few weeks ago. But nevertheless.. The nifty gallery and the fast shooting help me get by. But I would much rather have to wait an extra second for the shot and have it be better than have to always be editing. But.. Hopefully the m9 will improve upon it, and lots.

thebobmannh said:
It's absolutely not terrible, it's just not good, and is by far the worst thing about the phone for me.
"Worst in the past 3 years" is admittedly hyperbole as I obviously don't have access to every flagship of the past three years, and I"m sure SOMEONE has effed up worse somewhere, but it's the worst I've used since probably my iPHone 3. There may be ways to make it better with playing with settings, but as a daily driver "camera always in my pocket" it's the worst I've used in many years. If I wanted a DSLR that I had to meticulously to set up a shot with, I'd carry one. It's a camera phone, it should compromise some of the customization for quick and decent photos in most situations.
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It's a phone with a camera not a camera phone, cameras don't come with phones built in lol...

manup456 said:
It's a phone with a camera not a camera phone, cameras don't come with phones built in lol...
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A "cell phone" isn't a cell with a phone on it, it's a phone that uses cellular technology. A "smart phone" isn't a smart that has a phone on it, it's a phone that has smarts. A camera phone isn't a camera with a phone on it, it's a phone that has a camera on it.

Have we all come back to the cementary to un earth the urn of horse dust that was not made from incineration but from the repeated beating of over and over again with the whole camera thing?

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Have we all come back to the cementary to un earth the urn of horse dust that was not made from incineration but from the repeated beating of over and over again with the whole camera thing?
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Speaking of unearthing, I'm came extremely close to soiling myself when I read this.

N6 isn't the perfect Nexus ..

After a week of testing my N6 i can clearly say that N5 was a long way better in his time ..
I'll explain myself.
With the bug that make the sound going from low to loud. (And don't say it's feature because it's not ! Exemple : when you reboot your phone for exemple, unlock it and go to one game like clash of clan very quickly for exemple, you'll clearly hear the sound making weird things like there's low volume then going up by itself ..)
The performance issues.. (Many games stuttering, Facebook app that lags like hell, Here Maps too, Shazam stuttering animation.. Well in other word many app that doesn't act like it should with the power of our N6)
The battery isn't as great as Note 4 or at least comparable.. it's very inconsistant .. well it's still better than N5 but it's just "OK"
The purple tint when very low brightness (amoled issue but again Note 4 don't have a issue like that)
The camera is more than OK but it's still not like something WOW and taking a picture take much time if you compare to other flagship..
I don't own a Note 4 but after all YouTube Videos and even a friend Note 4 that's why i'm comparing these two..
But i own a N5 and back in december 2013 when i receive my N5 i can clearly say that it wasn't the perfect phone but more close to perfect phone than our N6 is.
I really hope that Google update will solve at least the performance issue and the "inconsistant sound" issue cause it's clearly software issue and make our battery a bit better.. Then i'll say that N6 will be more close to the perfect "phablet" I love my n6 beside all these issues, the material used, the 6" screen, the speakers (when they go well) and lollipop feature are awesome !

I gave up on the nexus and got a g3. I'm very happy. Its running lollipop and I have no complaints.

Some devs were talking about bad coding and lazy game devs being the cause of the stuttering since they haven't optimized them for lollipop; the same can be said for lag in apps.
The tint at low brightness is because the Nexus goes below 0 if you compare adaptive vs regular when both are at 0. You will notice the same thing if you use Lux brightness app on the Note 4.
The speaker bug will be fixed so that's not a big deal
My battery life is great, but YMMV.
The camera takes excellent pictures its more user error most of the time. Check our the Nexus pictures OP if you want some good examples of what it can do in good hands.

I'm with you on the poor game performance. Whatever the reason it's unacceptable and I'm going to give this several months to hopefully get ironed out.

Personally for me I loved the Nexus 4. If it had better LTE support I'd still rock one. I'd liked to have seen the new Droid as a Nexus. To me that would have been a better idea.
That said for my dreams, the N4 body with a 4.95in AMOLD dispaly and N5 hardware would have KILLED it for me.

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Some devs were talking about bad coding and lazy game devs being the cause of the stuttering since they haven't optimized them for lollipop; the same can be said for lag in apps.
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Well how come that N5 with stock lollipop doesn't have any performance issue if it come from game aren't optimized for lollipop ?
I think it comes from the N6 software ..
I hope for sounds are going to be fixed ..
And for other issue as i said, it's like that and i know but well it could be better

I haven't noticed any game performance issues or sound issues. I am running Lean Kernel and have my GPU slightly OC'd though.
I have owned every Galaxy device there is (except Note 4) and the performance of my Nexus 6 is leaps and bounds over anything I've owned in the past. Its kind of like a race car.....you just have to know how to tune it right.

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The speaker bug will be fixed so that's not a big deal
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Will it? Because I'm hearing a lot of "It's a feature," the first step is admitting there's a problem.

I own the Note 4 but keep coming back to the Nexus 6. It is about preference. I'm on CleanRom + franco kernel and it is rocking in performance. This phone will only get better with software updates.
As for pictures, I learned something new by owning both phones. Yes, the Note 4 takes great pictures that look great on the phone but when comparing on a large screen I was surprised the pictures looked better from Nexus 6. I couldn't believe it.

tlf55 said:
Well how come that N5 with stock lollipop doesn't have any performance issue if it come from game aren't optimized for lollipop ?
I think it comes from the N6 software ..
I hope for sounds are going to be fixed ..
And for other issue as i said, it's like that and i know but well it could be better
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I'm just going off of what was said. I read it in the kernel OP for LK or Franco if I recall correctly. It could also be the GPU using older coding trees which aren't as optimized(it was mentioned in the same place as the above)
The sound should be fixed, soon hopefully I 5.03 or whatever the end update is called. Its rumored that 5.1 is coming out in February.
I'm much happier with this phone over my G3 I can consistently get 6 hours SOT so that's fine with me and the development is crazy compared to other phones.
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Will it? Because I'm hearing a lot of "It's a feature," the first step is admitting there's a problem.
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I don't think it is because my Nexus 9 doesn't exhibit this. It's hopefully going to get fixed here soon.

How quickly we forget... the 5's camera was utter horse crap when it was released. Go back and read those initial reviews.... it's not pretty. It took two updates to fix. My wife still has her 5 and my 6 focuses much quicker and takes far better photos in every condition we've come across.... and hers still can't focus worth a damn most of the time. Most everything written about the 6's shooter starts with some dig on the Nexus 5's camera.
And as poor as you say the battery is, I still get closer to twice the screen time on my 6.
And then there is better radios, much better speakers. And the screen... yes, the overblown red screen tint that only kicks in with ambient display and in a dark room and it's turned down...But let's ignore the lightbleed and poor contrast ratio of the 5's screen that makes blacks more like slightly uneven dark gray.
'course, the 6 doesn't fart rainbows and puke unicorns like the 5.
The 6 is a superior phone the 5 in pretty much every way and a much better match to the current competition.
But they don't make then like they used to, right? Revisionist history. I really liked my 5, but I'm not so blinded to not see reality.

Personally I love the device and couldn't care less what you did with it or why you don't like it
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I don't know what perfect would be, but this phone is pretty dang good.

Am I one of the few who thinks the Nexus 6 is a perfect phone? I have zero issues with it.

I've been content with the N6 thus far and now a 5" screen feels like a flip phone to me. I gave my mom my N5 since she has a iPhone 4S and when I tinker on it I can't believe how small it is .
I've noticed the noise issue pretty much with only system sounds.
I've been getting a lot of complements on the photo quality using the HDR+. I noticed the N5 took better pics with the HDR+ before I got my N6. I've even had iPhone users at work ask me to take photos at our Christmas party LOL.

I'm bailing out soon as the next flagship phone comes out . Disappointed

I haven't met THE perfect phone yet. But the entire Nexus line is pretty close to what i want. The Nexus 6 has actually turned me off to smaller phones now. I am a big guy with huge hands, and now the Nexus 5 feels like a Snickers bar in my hand. Does the Nexus 6 have its faults? Absolutely. Every device has its own faults. But for my needs, and how it performs for me, the faults are miniscule.

OP please list the specs of what you'd consider your perfect phone and why. For MY needs personally, the N6 is perfect. Glad I was an early adopter.

pyrogoggles said:
Am I one of the few who thinks the Nexus 6 is a perfect phone? I have zero issues with it.
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Same here.
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tlf55 said:
Well how come that N5 with stock lollipop doesn't have any performance issue if it come from game aren't optimized for lollipop ?
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This has been discussed at length in the performance thread. The fault lies with game developers who are known to put out crap code and do a terrible job supporting games.
As for faceplant...it has been a battery vampire and performance hog for a long while.

I understand your frustration.
tlf55 said:
After a week of testing my N6 i can clearly say that N5 was a long way better in his time ..
I'll explain myself.
With the bug that make the sound going from low to loud. (And don't say it's feature because it's not ! Exemple : when you reboot your phone for exemple, unlock it and go to one game like clash of clan very quickly for exemple, you'll clearly hear the sound making weird things like there's low volume then going up by itself ..)
The performance issues.. (Many games stuttering, Facebook app that lags like hell, Here Maps too, Shazam stuttering animation.. Well in other word many app that doesn't act like it should with the power of our N6)
The battery isn't as great as Note 4 or at least comparable.. it's very inconsistant .. well it's still better than N5 but it's just "OK"
The purple tint when very low brightness (amoled issue but again Note 4 don't have a issue like that)
The camera is more than OK but it's still not like something WOW and taking a picture take much time if you compare to other flagship..
I don't own a Note 4 but after all YouTube Videos and even a friend Note 4 that's why i'm comparing these two..
But i own a N5 and back in december 2013 when i receive my N5 i can clearly say that it wasn't the perfect phone but more close to perfect phone than our N6 is.
I really hope that Google update will solve at least the performance issue and the "inconsistant sound" issue cause it's clearly software issue and make our battery a bit better.. Then i'll say that N6 will be more close to the perfect "phablet" I love my n6 beside all these issues, the material used, the 6" screen, the speakers (when they go well) and lollipop feature are awesome !
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This is my first Nexus device. As for other phones, like the LG G3, which I traded for my N6, what development does it really need with the exposed framework and G3 toolbox? Pretty much let you add any feature you wanted, so not much need for development at all, except for radios and such.
I have the Note 4 and it's a great phone, got to admit the Sammy did a great job with their overlay.
That being said, the N6 does seem to be a little subpar in the software department; but no doubt it will get sorted out, probably by developers here. I think that Google did not want to miss the Holiday rush and pushed the phone out with no real and varied test user input. So the few shortcomings of the phone were probably not addressed. In the end it's about what you want the phone to do. If you're a gamer, there may be a few titles you'll have to pass on, and I doubt they'll ever get looked at because not everyone uses the Nexus nor are there many available.
However, if you use the phone for the basics like phone calls and messaging, I think it will suit you just fine. Admittedly it could use some help in the design of the lollipop messaging. Very plain and not intuitive. But there are plenty of third party messaging apps to take it's place, shame though.
Sound is usually pretty good after the phone wakes all the way up, and battery life is comparable to many smartphones out there now a days. The hardware of the phone is outstanding and should still be in play a year from now, even competitive.
The size of the phone is nothing new to me since I prefer "phablets!" The built in wireless charging is a plus and something I hope to see common place in the future on all devices, time will tell.
Lollipop 5.0 and 5.o.1 need some help, and I think if you like to tinker with your phone a lot, XDA will develop what you need. However, If you're like me and don't have the time you use to, it might be a wise choice to move on to something else. I'm holding out until the next big update to see what issues are actually addressed and what development is made to move us in the right direction. I appreciate not having all the bloat that other phones get, but I don't feel pure android is up to snuff with enough user options to keep me interested very long. Got spoiled by sammy and LG tweakbox. I feel that should be the norm and it's pretty easy after attaining root on either of these to freeze or delete the bloat so there you go. If you are an avid flasher, this is the phone for you, but if you have other hobbies and interest, plan to move on to greener pastures.

[Discussion] OnePlus X User Opinions and Reviews

Invites are going out, and devices should be shipping soon. So, if you have a OnePlus X, please give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Tell us about the display, sound, feel, camera, quality or whatever else comes to mind. If you've had any problems, we'd also like to know about that too.
Unboxing pics are encouraged
So, who will go first?

Placed my order. Waiting for it to be shipped to m in London.

geko95gek said:
Placed my order. Waiting for it to be shipped to m in London.
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You may very well get something up before the professional reviews come out!

First "real world" experiences are being posted by a user from Paris who was able to grab one at Colette. As I am still a new user, I can't post the link.
Googling "OnePlus X Review" will however do the trick (first hit on oneplus.net).

jim_bocho said:
First "real world" experiences are being posted by a user from Paris who was able to grab one at Colette. As I am still a new user, I can't post the link.
Googling "OnePlus X Review" will however do the trick (first hit on oneplus.net).
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https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/review-of-oneplus-x.398665/

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Thanks!

Hey, i'm the 20th person who bought it! I was in Paris on monday at Colette !
My review will be short because i'm not that good in english (sorry for that btw).
I really like the phone. It's actually the best design i have ever seen. Looks so premium!
The screen is the only bad point. Whites are kinda yellow and it's blue when you look from the sides.
The camera is really great, better than my z3c.
Battery is good without being amazing. (4h sot)
Only 39k antutu and it's kinda laggy with one game i tried (Minipix). But other games work fine
The phone is really smooth to use

Hey guys, I received my OP X yesterday and I'm actually really satisfated thats celarly the best phone I never had, No lag, Nice 4g, charging actually fast, and ... So beatiful. I recommend it to anyone who wants to get a cheap and powerful device
(Live in Paris got it at Colette)
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Envoyé de mon ONE E1003 avec XDA Forums

PoloB49 said:
Hey, i'm the 20th person who bought it! I was in Paris on monday at Colette !
The camera is really great, better than my z3c.
Battery is good without being amazing. (4h sot)
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here here, I'm coming from a z3c too. Really, the camera is better on the 1+x? Both indoors and outdoors?

charliebigpot said:
here here, I'm coming from a z3c too. Really, the camera is better on the 1+x? Both indoors and outdoors?
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That's right. But i'm not a professional photographer, i use Auto on both phones. I know some people who can do great things with their z3c thanks to some custom settings

Awesome phone, the new Nexus killer!

Initial impressions
The phone is great until now
Build is simply amazing even if u don't consider the price. The screen too is brilliant, it's a bit over saturated but colours pop and blacks are stunning thanks to the amoled panel. The camera is quick, focus is fast, shots taken in good lighting are great but OK with low lighting. Similar for the front camera. The performance is great. Smooth and fast. Battery life has been good till now. Audio from the downward facing speaker is good imo.
Let's see how it goes

got mine on 7th in india.
battery 6/5
camera 5/5 - need to retest low light performance with the latest 17 mb OTA but without it night shots were average.
screen 6/5
feel4/5 its slippery plastic cover is a must
look 5/5
apps 5/5 no bloatware
cons
camera app needs to give more granular control
permissions control doesnt give the option of hiding device id etc.
fab device overall.

Got mine today. My last device was a sony z3c and ofc this one has some pros and cons facing the previous I had. The OPX has indeed a very good build quality, feels great in the hand. Size is perfect imo. Has no bloatware at all, comparing to the sony that has nothing but bloatware. Talking about this, I missed a gallery app, this phone does not come with an app to show the photos or videos in your device, what in my opinion is a must have, specially in a near stock android rom. Camera is good, fast and precise. Love the gestures features. Sound is loud enough and clear, in the speaker and in calls. It loses to the z3c in battery life once it has a smaller battery and a bigger screen, and once that z3c is one of the most battery friendly devices i knew. In the OPX I miss a fingerprint scanner, fast battery charging and the oxygen OS has a lot of room for improvements.

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Got mine today. My last device was a sony z3c and ofc this one has some pros and cons facing the previous I had. The OPX has indeed a very good build quality, feels great in the hand. Size is perfect imo. Has no bloatware at all, comparing to the sony that has nothing but bloatware. Talking about this, I missed a gallery app, this phone does not come with an app to show the photos or videos in your device, what in my opinion is a must have, specially in a near stock android rom. Camera is good, fast and precise. Love the gestures features. Sound is loud enough and clear, in the speaker and in calls. It loses to the z3c in battery life once it has a smaller battery and a bigger screen, and once that z3c is one of the most battery friendly devices i knew. In the OPX I miss a fingerprint scanner, fast battery charging and the oxygen OS has a lot of room for improvements.
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It does, it comes with google photos lol

geko95gek said:
It does, it comes with google photos lol
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Yes you're right but Google Photos is a cloud service, I'm talking about a local gallery app where you can see all your folders and media on the device.

theduardo said:
Yes you're right but Google Photos is a cloud service, I'm talking about a local gallery app where you can see all your folders and media on the device.
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You can see it in Google photos as well. Anyways if it's not your cup of tea, look on OP forums. Someone linked the cyanogenmod gallery app which works well.

geko95gek said:
You can see it in Google photos as well. Anyways if it's not your cup of tea, look on OP forums. Someone linked the cyanogenmod gallery app which works well.
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It's not a major problem, I've downloaded some 3rd party app from playstore. By the way, do you know if there's any way to save the pictures taken with the camera in the SD card instead of internal?

theduardo said:
It's not a major problem, I've downloaded some 3rd party app from playstore. By the way, do you know if there's any way to save the pictures taken with the camera in the SD card instead of internal?
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No not yet. In a Q&A session today one of the OP staff said they are planning to implement that in a near future.

I bought my X last Saturday at the London pop-up event. Thankfully I got a VIP invite so queuing wasn't an issue (more than 50m long when I left). A free phone cover (only the plastic ones, no wood (which seem to be plastic with a very thin layer of wood on both sides), no sandstone), a T-shirt, another invite and a notebook (paper ) were in the stylish bag besides the phone.
Much has been said before about the build quality which I can only confirm. It's very slippery though so the transparent phone cover from the box does a good job without disturbing the good looks too much. Don't peel the screen protector off together with the 'Never Settle' sticker!
The screen is good indeed but I would think the one of my OPO isn't worse or rather better, sharper. Thanks to the three LEDs per pixel (is it Pentile? Don't know!) the display is very slightly grainy but you have to look very closely. The screen of my HTC One M7 is definitely sharper though.
All phones are quick when new and this one wasn't an exception. Compared to the Exodus ROM I'm running on the OPO everything seems to be a bit choppy, animations are not as smooth. Turning forced GPU rendering on didn't make a difference. The first OTA update helped a bit but not by a huge margin. So far I haven't noticed any changes after the 2nd OTA update which came yesterday in the morning.
After now full four days I still like the phone for its size, everything works without a problem, no crashes, no freezing, Wifi and BT (tested only with a Braven 625s speaker) work without a glitch and so does Wifi Direct (tested with my Samsung 300NX camera). Charging takes about 2hrs, no QuickCharge here, but that also doesn't work on my OPO despite using an array of QuickCharge enabled chargers (all by Aukey). I seem to get a better phone signal compared to the OPO, Wifi also seems to be a bit stronger. Battery life is good, just about enough for one day with my usage (which at the moment means about 7 hours a day without phone signal (work in a basement) which no doubt reduces the battery life), definitely less than with the OPO but that's not really surprising. I've only tested the camera a few times, in those cases the focus was extremely fast and reliable, the picture quality - watched on the phone and zoomed in to the maximum - isn't DSLR like but still ok for Instagram, Facebook and for watching photos on the phone. No issues with the flash, I can turn it on and off and also the Auto mode works fine.
I'm still a bit torn between the OPO and the X, the latter being the nicer looking one and easier to handle, one-handed in almost all situations. The OPO's screen size is of course better suited to browsing and watching Youtube videos, on the other hand the phone can't be comfortably used one-handed most of the time and it's really big in my Jeans pocket. My OPO with Exodus seems to run a bit smoother, but when I once installed Oxygen on it it was absolutely awfully slow and choppy, so this is maybe rather software-related than down to the hardware.
I'm open for questions but I'm not going to drop the phone to test the durability of the glass panes and I'm also not going to run any battery drain tests. It's really, really strange what sort of people are trolling about in the official OP forums, 50% braindeads I would reckon :cyclops: