OK, lets try and make it clear!
Please, ALL DHD owners, vote in order to see the real size of the problem!
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OK, lets try and make it clear!
Please, ALL DHD owners, vote in order to see the real size of the problem amongst the small number of world wide DHD owners who use XDA!
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There, fixed it for ya
I voted Yes btw... mine has it too.
My phone's camera is fine.
Thanx!
But, considering the fact that DHD owners that join XDA do it for unbranding, upgrading, rooting, etc, and do not come here ONLY for the camera problem, I believe that, if all of them vote (even those that do not have the problem), we will get a good percentage sample.
It is something like the exit-poles while voting . Use a small sample from the crowd. It usually gives good results, close to reality.
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Thanx!
But, considering the fact that DHD owners that join XDA do it for unbranding, upgrading, rooting, etc, and do not come here ONLY for the camera problem, I believe that, if all of them vote (even those that do not have the problem), we will get a good percentage sample.
It is something like the exit-poles while voting . Use a small sample from the crowd. It usually gives good results, close to reality.
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Haha, I know... I was only joking!
I think it's a good idea too. Maybe once enough people have voted we can send the results to HTC repair center
Yeah, the results could be a good "attachment" with the DHD for service
Mine is fine. No problems here.
Yes mine does,
Mine is currently with HTC at the moment, in for it's second repair in 4 weeks. The first repair was for the original blur on the left but when I got the phone back from them last Friday, the blur was still present and after a few hours of use - the camera started producing really fuzzy and bad photos and so I rang HTC up over the weekend and they re-booked the phone in for another repair. Weather the blur problem and this new fuzzy photo problem are related I don't know.
Liam
Camera works fine here.
Works fine for me. Using leeroid.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
everythings pretty fine since day 1
@ stock btw.
DN41
Well my point of view is that a lot of people are completly unable to make the difference between blurred and non blurred photos. Believe me, a lot of people don't care about that because that doesnt look like a problem for them. It's like sounds and colors, humans don't react the same way.
That reminds me, just look in the thread I started, the two first pictures on the beach, the blur thing is higly noticeable on the left. But some people came and said they couldn't see anything wrong. That's the way humans work. We're all different.
Also, this problem doesn't occur in low light condition, because low light condition make noisy pictures, and the blur is nearly impossible to determine in that case. Even outside in good light condition, if you shoot a close subject, the blur thing may not apear. It really shows in good light condition when you shoot things like landscapes, buildings or trees.
Many people will come here and vote "no problem" because they just don't simply have the apropriate pictures. If they vote after indoor pictures, it will not help and the vote doesn't mean anything.
Mine is faulty, and two friends of mine got faulty devices too. There were quite a good bunch of report about this issue on the forum. We can't say for sure that a lot of DHD are concerned, but well, who can seriously say the contrary ?? (except the die hard HTC fans ... hehe I know there are some here and there ..)
Anyway, I think there's enough to say that there is a little quality control problem at HTC
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Well my point of view is that a lot of people are completly unable to make the difference between blurred and non blurred photos. Believe me, a lot of people don't care about that because that doesnt look like a problem for them. It's like sounds and colors, humans don't react the same way.
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So... which group is right?
Luthor_70 is right. For instance, I rarely use the phone camera, and it took me 8-9 days after purchase, and motive from XDA-DEVS to test the camera and spot the problem (make the test with outdoor pic and good light cond.).
Junta_mpb, my friend, the point is not which DHD user doesnt care about the problem and who does. The point is that we have spent a good amount of money, and we need a 100% working product. It is the customers right to have in his hands exactly what he paid for.
IMHO, no one should neglect defects like these.
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Luthor_70 is right. For instance, I rarely use the phone camera, and it took me 8-9 days after purchase, and motive from XDA-DEVS to test the camera and spot the problem (make the test with outdoor pic and good light cond.).
Junta_mpb, my friend, the point is not which DHD user doesnt care about the problem and who does. The point is that we have spent a good amount of money, and we need a 100% working product. It is the customers right to have in his hands exactly what he paid for.
IMHO, no one should neglect defects like these.
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My point is to address the insinuation that a participating group is providing false information. Saying that if one phone has a camera problem and concluding that those who say otherwise just don’t care to notice or lying because of a blind love affair with HTC is not logic I would subscribe to. I could be wrong with jumping to that conclusion, but thats why I posted my question.
I agree that we paid good money for something that we would like to be perfect. I am not contesting that. There are phones with defects. The topic, however, is about the camera and I think this should be isolated.
I checked my images again, indoor, outdoor, with trees and one with a 5-legged cow. They are fine and I dont think its because I'm just inclined to say so.
Junta, you have a point here, but, as in all votes and researches, the factor of "error" always exists. You cannot be absolute about anything in this life. I am just trying to track down an approximation of the problem, and nothing else.
What I was trying to say is that, if you purchase a phone for, lets say, 200 euro, you cannot expect the quality of a phone that costs 600 euro (like DHD). Yes, the possibility of faulty devices is always there (only God can make something perfect). But, according to this vote (up to now), approximately 1 out of 3 has it. I personally know 2 more people (friends) with the same problem. Only my father's DHD is OK
And it could still be OK, although the size of the problem, IF HTC accepted that! They keep neglecting us, and fooling around with us. My phone is 10 days at service now, and when I called them they said that they still have no further info about the problem. For crying out loud, HTC has my phone more days in their hands than me! And according to previous experience, maybe a second visit will be required! This is the insane part.
Oh! I almost forgot! Please send me the picture with the 5 legged cow!
Kostas
(Sorry for my bad English).
Personally, I had 3 HD Desire HD and 2 had the perfect camera, but the strange thing is that the cameras are not only bad ones sold with the first phones, but also the latest build are defective, so it's a matter of luck in my opinion...
However, I propose to upload a photo of all those who vote, so we really understand the situation...
I start:
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Junta, you have a point here, but, as in all votes and researches, the factor of "error" always exists. You cannot be absolute about anything in this life. I am just trying to track down an approximation of the problem, and nothing else.
What I was trying to say is that, if you purchase a phone for, lets say, 200 euro, you cannot expect the quality of a phone that costs 600 euro (like DHD). Yes, the possibility of faulty devices is always there (only God can make something perfect). But, according to this vote (up to now), approximately 1 out of 3 has it. I personally know 2 more people (friends) with the same problem. Only my father's DHD is OK
And it could still be OK, although the size of the problem, IF HTC accepted that! They keep neglecting us, and fooling around with us. My phone is 10 days at service now, and when I called them they said that they still have no further info about the problem. For crying out loud, HTC has my phone more days in their hands than me! And according to previous experience, maybe a second visit will be required! This is the insane part.
Oh! I almost forgot! Please send me the picture with the 5 legged cow!
Kostas
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Let me see if I can PM it to you.
Cheers!
Edit: I dont seem to have access to my flickr account at work. Ill find a way around it.
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Let me see if I can PM it to you.
Cheers!
Edit: I dont seem to have access to my flickr account at work. Ill find a way around it.
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What's your Flickr name, I'll find it and post for you
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What's your Flickr name, I'll find it and post for you
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I still have to upload it. Let me try using my phone.
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im so sick of everyone complaining about outdated software, missing features just be happy with your phone. if its so crap why the hell did you get in the 1st place? were u hoping for an update or root? in that case you should have waited for either one of those to happen before buying the phone.
im getting my x10 on monday (im from australia) and ive played around with the store demos and truthfully its a great phone, had a hard choice between x10 and desire, but thruthfully i dont like the fact that HTC 'cheated' on the resolution of their 'amoled' screen and by the way the I8000 amoled is better anyway but whites are better on a TFT screen (just an observation, correct me if im wrong but thats my opinion)
currently i have Samsung I8000 (before that samsung i900) and if i waited for samsung to update it to 6.5 in australia id have jumped off a cliff. phone got hacked, updated to 6.5.3 and 6.5.5 and guess what only like last week did samsung decide to officially release an update for the phone (an official one) and its outdated by about 4-6 months to what im actually running on the phone. and guess what after all that i still love the phone.
(by the way HTC had windows mobile 6.5 about a year ago)
i researched, played around and got what i wanted and what had the features that i needed.
loved every phone i had and will have.... want to know why? ITS BECAUSE I GET A PHONE WHICH HAS WHAT I NEED AND WANT NOT WHAT LOOKS BEST OR IS 'TRENDY'
SO IF YOU GO SO MANY PROBLEMS AND SO DISAPPOINTED WITH SONY ERICSSON WHY, SERIOUS, WHY THE HELL DID YOU GET THE XPERIA X10????
JUST A THOUGHT, MAYBE IM TOO AMBITIOUS IN ASSUMING PEOPLE BUY PHONES BECAUSE THEY NEED THEM AND NOT BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE A GREAT SHINY NEW TOY
very true dude i cant stand everyone *****ing about this phone. If you dont like the phone dont bloody get it in the first place simple !
And your moaning about people winging and moaning?....
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Hi Aussie buddy. I agree about the ott whining, especially because s.e. have confirmed at least a 2.1 update. Tbh, I buy my phones based on aesthetics (had a hero before the x10) so I'm getting everything I want and more with this beaut.
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hey if all the wingers can winge... so i decided to winge about wingers winging lol
I buy a phone with the following specifications: geotagging with a good camera, good autonomy, blah blah blah. So finally I get a phone with a lot of bugs. No geotagging with a poor camera (maybe not the hardware but software), very bad autonomy, blah blah blah.
Understand "blah blah blah" like my english is not very good.. and I don't want to fire my brain to write what you can read for everyone that own a X10 and use it like a smartphone, not only a mobile phone. So, if you are happy with X10 maybe you waste a lot of money purchasing it. Due to, if you want to call and write some SMS.. why you didn't buy a Nokia 6210?
Check that my friend > http://www.htcmania.com/showpost.php?p=1079784&postcount=1 > if you think that you have a good smartphone in your hands, you have the same criterion like my mum about a good smartphone it's.
Oh! I forgot... I didn't dream with Froyo.. I dream with a X10 without tons of bugs. Only!
You're right of course.. people should focus on the positives of the phone and not just ***** about the things that are wrong.. although it's very easy to get drawn in to the issues about poor customer service and responsiveness from SE.. which it actually the most worrying things about owning the flagship SE handset..
One last point.. and apologies in advance for being picky... but it's "Whinging" not "winging"
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So, if you are happy with X10 maybe you waste a lot of money purchasing it. Due to, if you want to call and write some SMS.. why you didn't buy a Nokia 6210?
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You are a fool.
The only reason I can like my phone is because it was expensive? You gotta have a pretty f'ed up life if that's what makes you happy. I like the phone because I can do anything I could possibly want on it, I have no "bugs", and I have amazing battery life. The phone is exactly what I wanted.
Also, it wasn't expensive for me either. In Japan, the Xperia is cheaper than the iPhone 3GS. $280US for new customers, $380US for existing.
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You are a fool.
The only reason I can like my phone is because it was expensive? You gotta have a pretty f'ed up life if that's what makes you happy. I like the phone because I can do anything I could possibly want on it, I have no "bugs", and I have amazing battery life. The phone is exactly what I wanted.
Also, it wasn't expensive for me either. In Japan, the Xperia is cheaper than the iPhone 3GS. $280US for new customers, $380US for existing.
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No bugs? What are you doing with your phone? You didn't use geotagging? WiFi? Face recognition? LOL
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No bugs? What are you doing with your phone? You didn't use geotagging? WiFi? Face recognition? LOL
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I agree the Phone is full of Bugs if you use it intense. I bought the Phone because the Features sounded good to me. It does all what it is supposed to do but non of it it does right , that's what is my personal main Issue with the Phone. Besides the low Call Volume is especially in a noisy environment pretty annoying. Once all those bugs are fixed i am sure we will have a pretty nice Phone , including the 2.1 update of course. Just my Phones usually don't live that long and probably by the end of the Year i don't own the Xperia anymore.
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No bugs? What are you doing with your phone? You didn't use geotagging? WiFi? Face recognition? LOL
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Geotagging works just fine. All my friends faces show up in Mediascape/Timescape. The tags don't get erased. Wifi connects/disconnects just fine for me, I only use it at home, occasionally, since 3G is more than fast enough for downloading small apps/internet/email. I get over a day of battery life easily. I used GPS for MyTracks to track my drive home tonight for an hour. I used the internet often, watched 15 minutes of High Quality YouTube videos, sent a bunch of emails, took several photos, and downloaded a few apps of the market. Still have 27% battery life, which will last me until the morning. (It's 2 am right now where I am.)
Is it really that hard for you to believe that someone is not having problems with their phone? My only problem I've had was the USB port cover falling off somewhere. I was kinda pissed off about that, but a 1 minute trip to the Docomo store, and I had a new port cover, for free.
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Is it really that hard for you to believe that someone is not having problems with their phone?
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Do not forget the Japanese (Docomo) X10 is different to the other X10 , eg talking about more RAM and dunno what else Sony might have changed in the Japanese Version.
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Geotagging works just fine. All my friends faces show up in Mediascape/Timescape. The tags don't get erased. Wifi connects/disconnects just fine for me, I only use it at home, occasionally, since 3G is more than fast enough for downloading small apps/internet/email. I get over a day of battery life easily. I used GPS for MyTracks to track my drive home tonight for an hour. I used the internet often, watched 15 minutes of High Quality YouTube videos, sent a bunch of emails, took several photos, and downloaded a few apps of the market. Still have 27% battery life, which will last me until the morning. (It's 2 am right now where I am.)
Is it really that hard for you to believe that someone is not having problems with their phone? My only problem I've had was the USB port cover falling off somewhere. I was kinda pissed off about that, but a 1 minute trip to the Docomo store, and I had a new port cover, for free.
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Can you upload a geotagged picture here? Taken with your X10 of course.. and without compress it, just as is. Thank you.
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Can you upload a geotagged picture here? Taken with your X10 of course.. and without compress it, just as is. Thank you.
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Geotagging seems to work fine for me too.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2130/dsc0069cp.jpg (it's the full unedited picture)
Couldn't attach it here somehow.
I would just like to had one fact,lots of new user know nothing about the android system,is it their fault to not search first hand? Yes somehow ,still instead of bashing the people complaining why not try to help them,or trying to improve the situation?
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Geotagging seems to work fine for me too.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2130/dsc0069cp.jpg (it's the full unedited picture)
Couldn't attach it here somehow.
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Hey... you got it. Check the image. You don't have ID-Tag 0001 and 0003 in the picture and you don't know if the latitude and longitude is positive or negative... so you can not geolocate it with picasa (for example).
Regards, and thank you for your upload
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I buy a phone with the following specifications: geotagging with a good camera, good autonomy, blah blah blah. So finally I get a phone with a lot of bugs. No geotagging with a poor camera (maybe not the hardware but software), very bad autonomy, blah blah blah.
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Didn't you even checked the camera of phone before purchaising??? I found the camera pretty decent, better than Satio, Aino, W995 in day light. Much better than all other available android devices currently.
Here's a small comparison.
HTC Desire
SE X10
I can't post full pictures, but both pictures were taken same day same time same place.
I knew what i'm purchaising & i'm happy with X10. No that kind of bugs i can't live with...
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Geotagging works just fine. All my friends faces show up in Mediascape/Timescape. The tags don't get erased. Wifi connects/disconnects just fine for me, I only use it at home, occasionally, since 3G is more than fast enough for downloading small apps/internet/email. I get over a day of battery life easily. I used GPS for MyTracks to track my drive home tonight for an hour. I used the internet often, watched 15 minutes of High Quality YouTube videos, sent a bunch of emails, took several photos, and downloaded a few apps of the market. Still have 27% battery life, which will last me until the morning. (It's 2 am right now where I am.)
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Completely agree with you Battery life is not that bad, pretty decent i must say.
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Completely agree with you Battery life is not that bad, pretty decent i must say.
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I'll second that. Didn't realise people had such big dramas. Wow
Mano1982 said:
Didn't you even checked the camera of phone before purchaising??? I found the camera pretty decent, better than Satio, Aino, W995 in day light. Much better than all other available android devices currently.
Here's a small comparison.
HTC Desire
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I can't post full pictures, but both pictures were taken same day same time same place.
I knew what i'm purchaising & i'm happy with X10. No that kind of bugs i can't live with...
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It is good compared to Desire.. but compare it with the X10 Mini Camera. X10 Mini win... it's something related to the driver I think.
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Completely agree with you Battery life is not that bad, pretty decent i must say.
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I'll second that. Didn't realise people had such big dramas. Wow
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Ehmmm actually battery it's very bad. You only need to have a HTC Legend in your hands to see what I say. Of course, if you don't use your phone you will get a big autonomy, but if you setup Google Sync and keep all time 3G active.. you will get 18 hours as maximun vs. two/three days of the Legend. Of course it is a bug, read about the next update here >> http://translate.google.es/translat...tade-med-lasarna-1.338239.html?firstComment=0 if nothing it's wrong with the battery... why we will get 100% increased autonomy? Why?
Good night!
Just really getting tired of all these silly threads coming up on how someone has the most minute problem with this Zeus of a phone and needs to bash bash bash. I wanted to create a thread where users can post on the things that make them love their sgs2.
For me its the 1080p video recording. Just installed the modded camera apk from the Dev section and took a video. WOW am I impressed.
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I agree. Really impressed by the device. Using it for 3 weeks now and it never failed. Coming from Milestone, this is heaven.
I was thinking of starting a similar thread. With every person with an issue posting a crisis thread assuming everyone else is having the same problem the front page looks a horror story. Then the same three people with the issue post a dozen posts, basically to each other, and you have three pages worth of the exact same thing repeated over and over. Then, god forbid you post anything that doesn't support the latest conspiracy theory and you're flamed.
My phone's part of my life - not my life. I don't think that's so for some of my fellow owners. I mean seriously, I know the phone's not cheap, and it's not perfect, but compared to everything out there it's fantastic. Using a car analogy, if the dash lighting on your BMW's not to your liking you suck it up. You don't try to get a gaggle of those that also don't like the dash lighting and attack BMW. Either live with it, trade the car in, and/or never buy another BMW again. The same thing applies to the SGS2. If Samsung does lurk this board we're undoubtedly providing them with tons of laughs as a small percentage of users are ballistic having had the realization the phone wasn't designed specifically for them.
Anyway, I just got back from an extended trip and here's some of the things I really like about the phone:
1) The software's tight. It responds quickly and consistently each and every time. I've had no funkiness turning the various data functions on and off and all the integrated apps work well together just like they're supposed to.
2) As a media device the phone's the best out there. I downloads a bunch of MKV files before the trip and the phone isn't even phased. Web browsing is fast and fluid and I personally like the Media and Reader Hubs.
3) As an audio device the phone's great. I have about 2,000 tracks on it that are DRM protected Rhapsody files and they play flawlessly. The audio output's great for the way I use the phone - through headphones, via Bluetooth, and through the onboard speaker.
4) The phone aspect works well for me. I can hear people clearly and they can hear me both through the handset and Bluetooth. So many new high-end phones suck at being just a phone.
5) I love the screen. The vividness of the colors and blackness of the blacks are unmatched. That especially shines through with videos, pictures, and web browsing.
Well, those are the things that stand out for me. Anything not mentioned doesn't mean I don't like it, they're either not important or functioning as designed. The latter being a good thing.
So to all potential purchasers, take time to read through this forum beyond the crisis posts. The mute majority is actually quite happy with the SGS2.
Everything nothing is bad some can be improved is my view battery display GPS good .
My phone's part of my life - not my life
Agree but you must understand many posters love the phone as they cannot get a girlfriend .
Others are not technically minded enough to use the phone the ones who double post dont use search or read faqs must fall in to that category .
Then their are the sad ex Iphone users who need hand holding or HTC who buy a phone without sense ..
jje
Agreed. People take this stuff way too close to the heart.
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Well, I love my SGS2. I can post here It may not be 100% perfect, but no phone is. This device is the best on the Market right now imo, I recommend it to my friends. They really like the screen, the colours and ultra blacks
I seriously couldnt think of anything I dont like. Only thing I hope is developers start optimizing their apps for the Galaxy S II!
i luv luv luv my sgs2
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Agree but you must understand many posters love the phone as they cannot get a girlfriend .
jje
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LMFAO! that's pretty funny! I actually think they COULD get a girlfriend, but it's easier to invest 600+ euro in a phone, rather than investing 600+ euro in a make over, getting into shape and dating. Lol. I love my phones, a lot. But that has NEVER stopped me from dating hehe.
EDIT: You can always find a way to get both in your life! Like, taking public transport to dates, and then while in the tube / bus / train, you could tinker with your phone ^^
I've bought Samsung Galaxy S 2 few days ago and it's incredible!
Granted, I used to have Touch HD so I don't really have anythin good to compare it to, but anyway, I'm in love with it.
P.S. This is like my second post or something
Have fun
I agree. In fact reading so many threads about issues here and there, I started getting cold feet and became concerned the device would be sub-par. However, its an amazing device.
I love the HD recording. I love that Samsung took issues with the previous Galaxy S series and added new functions. For example, there are now settings to change the touch-key light settings to 1.5s to 6s to always off/on or only in the dark. Nice feature. My battery life is better than I had hoped for and haven't even used the power mode feature which is also a nice feature.
My previous phone was a Captivate with serious GPS issues. The GPS in the SGS2 can get up to 4m-10m accuracy. I take the train everyday and while the Cappy used to show me a few km away on a highway, the SGS2 will actually show me as being on the train tracks with dead on accuracy.
It doesn't overheat, doesn't have any yellow streaks and I love my SGS2
I love being able to do anything within 3 seconds with my SGS2
Me: *click *click "Bring me pizza! Now!"
SGS2: Your wish is my command, sir. Meanwhile, could you please rephrase your voice command?
Me: ArrrRRRrr!
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I love being able to do anything within 3 seconds with my SGS2
Me: *click *click "Bring me pizza! Now!"
SGS2: Your wish is my command, sir. Meanwhile, could you please rephrase your voice command?
Me: ArrrRRRrr!
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ha ha ha LOL!
Yeah with every day and with every tuning and tweaking and every new good app
I love it more and more.
At the beginning, i allready thought to get it back.. but now i wouldn't give it away
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I agree. In fact reading so many threads about issues here and there, I started getting cold feet and became concerned the device would be sub-par. However, its an amazing device.
I love the HD recording. I love that Samsung took issues with the previous Galaxy S series and added new functions. For example, there are now settings to change the touch-key light settings to 1.5s to 6s to always off/on or only in the dark. Nice feature. My battery life is better than I had hoped for and haven't even used the power mode feature which is also a nice feature.
My previous phone was a Captivate with serious GPS issues. The GPS in the SGS2 can get up to 4m-10m accuracy. I take the train everyday and while the Cappy used to show me a few km away on a highway, the SGS2 will actually show me as being on the train tracks with dead on accuracy.
It doesn't overheat, doesn't have any yellow streaks and I love my SGS2
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Now this is comforting to hear. Like the man said I was getting cold feet, first the camera issue, now the OELD burnin/yellow issues, people whining about wifi range and battery life.
You'd think this device was a disaster. Yet all the reviews praise the **** out of it. So I was starting to have some doubts about buying it but, it's really nice to see some positive community feedback that goes to show once again that a very loud minority can indeed make you doubt your choices...
Most of these forums are plagued with issues posting because
1. These forums are the easiest location to find solutions for issues. Great gateway to compare experiences (it would be great if people searched and posted in the same topic thread instead of making a new one)
2. It represents a very tiny part of the whole population of owners hence amplifying the issues no matter how many folks are affected by it
3. Most folks won't post unless they run into an issue
As for me. Device has been nothing but stellar
- Great battery life (much better than any other smartphone that i've had and i've had many since the winmo slide out qwerty keyboard device days)
- Improved SAMOLED screen over the last gen and it's noticeably sharper
- Form factor. There is nothing else like it and it's comfortable in my hand and my pocket
- Quickness. There is nothing really slowing down the device at all.
- WIFI - Reception is better than my galaxy s and gets better throughput than any other wifi device that i own except my computer
- Cell reception - My apartment is located next to the water and i don't get great reception in certain parts of my apartment and i get much better reception - four to three bars of hspa+!!! (I get dropped calls with my verizon bb sometimes and none for the gsii yet)
- Comes with gingerbread from the factory and updated constantly
My honeymoon period is over and there are certainly few things that they could have improved on but i'm glad i got the gs2 on the launch day.
ph00ny said:
Most of these forums are plagued with issues posting because
1. These forums are the easiest location to find solutions for issues. Great gateway to compare experiences (it would be great if people searched and posted in the same topic thread instead of making a new one)
2. It represents a very tiny part of the whole population of owners hence amplifying the issues no matter how many folks are affected by it
3. Most folks won't post unless they run into an issue
As for me. Device has been nothing but stellar
- Great battery life (much better than any other smartphone that i've had and i've had many since the winmo slide out qwerty keyboard device days)
- Improved SAMOLED screen over the last gen and it's noticeably sharper
- Form factor. There is nothing else like it and it's comfortable in my hand and my pocket
- Quickness. There is nothing really slowing down the device at all.
- WIFI - Reception is better than my galaxy s and gets better throughput than any other wifi device that i own except my computer
- Cell reception - My apartment is located next to the water and i don't get great reception in certain parts of my apartment and i get much better reception - four to three bars of hspa+!!! (I get dropped calls with my verizon bb sometimes and none for the gsii yet)
- Comes with gingerbread from the factory and updated constantly
My honeymoon period is over and there are certainly few things that they could have improved on but i'm glad i got the gs2 on the launch day.
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+1. Hope mine has no problems when it arrives on Monday!
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Everything nothing is bad some can be improved is my view battery display GPS good .
My phone's part of my life - not my life
Agree but you must understand many posters love the phone as they cannot get a girlfriend .
Others are not technically minded enough to use the phone the ones who double post dont use search or read faqs must fall in to that category .
Then their are the sad ex Iphone users who need hand holding or HTC who buy a phone without sense ..
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Ah ah, best answer ever
Good thread. I also would like some issues to be resolved, but we all should understand one thing - with increasing complexity of devices, there will be some issues. It is bound to have certain compatibility issues with zillions of different types of formats used. There will always be some compromise made by OEM on what to put in the device - cost vs features vs weight vs thickness Etcetera...
For those who see everything in negative light, I have a solution.
deeply in love with sgs2
Its good to see some love instead of all the usual gripes and moans...
I came from an HD2 and wasnt expecting this phone to completely replace it, but it has. The HD2 is in a drawer and I dont see it coming out for a while. Feel kinda bad for it.. lol
Im loving the readers hub, saves me getting off my lazy ass to go to the newsagents that and the mind blowing speed, gorgeous screen etc etc....
Very happy with my SGS2
That was one of the featues, that the camera was supposed to be better.
Is this true? Can some people on 2.3.4 post some photos?
My wife thinks the photos are better.
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I hope it is. My sis's Inspire, even though it has an 8 mp, still far out-performs my Atrix, above what just three more mp's should get. Even my Torch took better pictures. But, hey, I got a dual core. I can deal with it.
It better!
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It better!
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For those saying its better, can you post some photos taken on 2.3.4??
How much better?
Not sure if the quality is better but the camcorder and camera has an on screen zoom button that works really well.
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Not sure if the quality is better but the camcorder and camera has an on screen zoom button that works really well.
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In 2.2.2 you can zoom with volume buttons, so that isn't anything new. What I noticed in 2.3.4 is that you can move the focus box...so you basically get manual focus!
Looking at pictures is subjective. We need real data to show that pictures are better, if in fact they are. Everyone naturally just expects them to be better cos' they went to 2.3.4 (asian beta), so natural tendency is to "believe" they are better just because.
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Looking at pictures is subjective. We need real data to show that pictures are better, if in fact they are. Everyone naturally just expects them to be better cos' they went to 2.3.4 (asian beta), so natural tendency is to "believe" they are better just because. Joe Blow saying pictures are better doesn't mean s**t!
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I've taken many photos with my atrix, and other phones and cameras and I'll be able to tell if colours look any better, as would other people.
The best thing owuld be taking a photo of an object on 2.2 and then on 2.3 and posting both, but I would still like to see the photos from 2.3
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I've taken many photos with my atrix, and other phones and cameras and I'll be able to tell if colours look any better, as would other people.
The best thing owuld be taking a photo of an object on 2.2 and then on 2.3 and posting both, but I would still like to see the photos from 2.3
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Exactly.............you need identical comparisons with both firmwares. That means exact same camera position, lighting, subject, etc. Taking many photos really doesn't mean ****, as does what we perceive as a better or worse photo. I would trust a professional photographers eyes with this, but the rest of us just look for what "we" perceive ourselves to "look" better.
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Exactly.............you need identical comparisons with both firmwares. That means exact same camera position, lighting, subject, etc. Taking many photos really doesn't mean ****, as does what we perceive as a better or worse photo. I would trust a professional photographers eyes with this, but the rest of us just look for what "we" perceive ourselves to "look" better.
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Although thats what really matters isnt it, what we think?
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Although thats what really matters isnt it, what we think?
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Not really if you are looking for accurate reproduction of colours, etc.
Why would we have any posts about cameras being better otherwise? You either want a camera which takes pictures which are accurate, or you don't need to post that your phone takes crap pictures, cos' nobody gives a crap then.
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Not really if you are looking for accurate reproduction of colours, etc.
Why would we have any posts about cameras being better otherwise? You either want a camera which takes pictures which are accurate, or you don't need to post that your phone takes crap pictures, cos' nobody gives a crap then.
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When two phones are compared and the camera is compared - they take photos of the same thing. By us looking at the comparisons we generally make our own decision about which colours we think look better.
Why are any photos posted in single phone reviews? Yes they comment on colour reproduction and such but ultimately its so people can see how the photos look; not to compare it with a DSLR. I want to see how the photos look.
Apparently the benchmark scores are low but I see most people that are replying with the 2.3.4 just installed say the phone feels faster either way.
Anyways, what point are you trying to make? I want to see photos posted with 2.3.4. There are many topics for other phones where people post photos from their phone, so whats the big deal if I want to see photos from 2.3.4 since its SUPPOSED to be better now?
If somone takes a photo of a red ball at noon in their house with a 100 watt light bult on the ceiling as their only source of light, I think we will be able to tell if the photos look bad or not.
Point is that its not hard to look at a photo and tell if it doesnt look good. Please just leave this thread alone if you're not going to contribute and you're going to just be negative about it.
So far two people have said its better, now I give more of a crap about seeing some photos because of those replies.
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When two phones are compared and the camera is compared - they take photos of the same thing. By us looking at the comparisons we generally make our own decision about which colours we think look better.
Why are any photos posted in single phone reviews? Yes they comment on colour reproduction and such but ultimately its so people can see how the photos look; not to compare it with a DSLR. I want to see how the photos look.
Apparently the benchmark scores are low but I see most people that are replying with the 2.3.4 just installed say the phone feels faster either way.
Anyways, what point are you trying to make? I want to see photos posted with 2.3.4. There are many topics for other phones where people post photos from their phone, so whats the big deal if I want to see photos from 2.3.4 since its SUPPOSED to be better now?
If somone takes a photo of a red ball at noon in their house with a 100 watt light bult on the ceiling as their only source of light, I think we will be able to tell if the photos look bad or not.
Point is that its not hard to look at a photo and tell if it doesnt look good. Please just leave this thread alone if you're not going to contribute and you're going to just be negative about it.
So far two people have said its better, now I give more of a crap about seeing some photos because of those replies.
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My point is that people jump on this "what is better/worse" bandwagon on a beta build which isn't even for the US, (where almost everyone is who is flashing the HTKW 2.3.4), and try to compare before and after.
Everyone expects it to be better, and so you all perceive everything you see as better. If you want to compare, stop saying "pictures look better now" and post real comparisons.
Yeah, sure, I can take 2 pictures with the same phone, (and a 100 watt bulb and red ball), one in the morning, one at night, and with different firmwares. Because the one at night looks better with the newer firmware, does that mean the phone is taking better pictures? No, it doesn't!
I am not being negative, and no I won't leave a thread where what I consider my valuable contribution is asking for proof of pictures being better. I simply want more than people saying pictures "look" better.
If you can't provide some form of proof, and can't/don't want to argue why real comparisons are required, then why don't you leave this thread, as it seems your contribution is nothing more than a 100 watt lightbulb and red ball!
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My point is that people jump on this "what is better/worse" bandwagon on a beta build which isn't even for the US, (where almost everyone is who is flashing the HTKW 2.3.4), and try to compare before and after.
Everyone expects it to be better, and so you all perceive everything you see as better. If you want to compare, stop saying "pictures look better now" and post real comparisons.
Yeah, sure, I can take 2 pictures with the same phone, (and a 100 watt bulb and red ball), one in the morning, one at night, and with different firmwares. Because the one at night looks better with the newer firmware, does that mean the phone is taking better pictures? No, it doesn't!
I am not being negative, and no I won't leave a thread where what I consider my valuable contribution is asking for proof of pictures being better. I simply want more than people saying pictures "look" better.
If you can't provide some form of proof, and can't/don't want to argue why real comparisons are required, then why don't you leave this thread, as it seems your contribution is nothing more than a 100 watt lightbulb and red ball!
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I am also asking for proof, I'm asking for PHOTOS. (see title of topic)
If the Photo looks better, what does it mean? Photos are now worse?...
"Everyone expects it to be better, and so you all perceive everything you see as better"
Thats kind of an ignorant thing to say... maybe it IS better. Are you using it?
Come on man, be realistic, you havent made any contribution. Honestly.
Caelan, come on now.. me asking for pictures is me ASKING for proof, so why are you asking ME to provide proof?...
Why are you saying I am contribution a red ball and such? ... I am ASKING FOR PHOTOS in this thread, I am not really contributing anything untill people actually post photos - then I am contributing a source of photos for other people that want to view them.
Please stop this
why dont we have people take a picture of something then post it (on froyo) then take the same picture (on gb). good plan? xD isnt that the point of this thread? im too lazy to go back to gb or i would, i took two random pictures and they turned out "okay" but that was with flash, flash seems to work alittle better as in it doesnt falsh at the wrong times now. i dont see why the quality would be any better since this is a beta not even for our phones. they also said there is a performance boost and other stuff but none of that is in this version, i cant even zoom in with the camera without getting fc. id hold on a bit before comparing.
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why dont we have people take a picture of something then post it (on froyo) then take the same picture (on gb). good plan? xD isnt that the point of this thread? im too lazy to go back to gb or i would, i took two random pictures and they turned out "okay" but that was with flash, flash seems to work alittle better as in it doesnt falsh at the wrong times now. i dont see why the quality would be any better since this is a beta not even for our phones. they also said there is a performance boost and other stuff but none of that is in this version, i cant even zoom in with the camera without getting fc. id hold on a bit before comparing.
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I wouldnt think this build would be perfect, but its fair to say that I am curious of the photo quality right?
Can we stay on topic please, the OP just asked about posting photos. I haven't seen none.
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I wouldnt think this build would be perfect, but its fair to say that I am curious of the photo quality right?
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yeah i agree! i would like to see for myself. i just dont feel like going through waiting and reflashing blah blah. once there is a more stable build/easier way to flash id be sure to post!
I noticed that the camera quality was a little bit better when I had 2.3.4 installed.
Hi.
I'm new to forums, so hello. I hope I won't make you nervous with my thread .
So, I have doubts on buying an SGS2. At first I was "wow'ed", then I read all reviews and watched all videos and I was "wow'ed" even more. But after reading forums I got totally disappointed, beacause SGS2 seems deeply flawed.
I know there are single threads for each problem, but getting through tens or hundreds of "me too" posts is a bit troubling, so I'd like to gather or problems, which are happening on all or at least many SGS2, on one list and ask if they got repaired or is there any view on them being repaired. Also I'd like to ask SGS2 users, who suffer from those problems, if they are really troubling and if they would buy SGS2 knowing 'bout them.
So, the list is:
- yellow tinting (smudge-stain) - I've read opinions that it's just glue, AFAIR I've read opinion that it got off after some usage time. Some claim that it is repaired in newer software, however I guess its hardware issue and I don't have any idea how such issue can be repaired via software. Is it very common, or just some phones are flawed?
- not-fluent gradients - so, I know it's software-related, and its due using 16-bits and bad dithering/high contrast on SGS2 and happens not only on SGS2, but its much more visible on SGS2 display. The question is: are there any official upgrades or custom roms that address that issue? If not, are such planned?
- pink spot on photos - common for many many phones, but we know it can be greatly corrected by software update. Are there any good software upgrades / custom photo apps to address this issue?
- darker left side of screen - just read about it recently... is it common? can it be addressed by software/firmware upgrade?
- random power offs - I've heard that many users complain about their phones going off randomly. Some said it's just matter of dust or dirt... Is there anyone who's phone is power-offing randomly and don't know why?
- high temperature - seems a problem too, due to slickness of SGS2. My question is, if it's really that troubling and if it can cause some defects after longer usage?
I know there are more problems, but they are not that common and can be solved by "return to a shop" method . So I don't list them here.
Once again - sorry for duplicating many posts. I hope that this thread will be useful for other people, who have doubts on buying SGS2 because of those problems.
You know. I agree on paying much for phone, but I demand flawless work. And I rage over every little issue when I expect something to be near-perfect... So... If you could help me to decide whether I want SGS2 or I don't, I'd be glad and thankfull (otherwise, just close/delete the thread ).
Cheers.
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Hi.
I'm new to forums, so hello. I hope I won't make you nervous with my thread .
So, the list is:
- yellow tinting (smudge-stain) - I've read opinions that it's just glue, AFAIR I've read opinion that it got off after some usage time. Some claim that it is repaired in newer software, however I guess its hardware issue and I don't have any idea how such issue can be repaired via software. Is it very common, or just some phones are flawed?
User who claim to have it will say every phone has it . Not on my phone and not on many others .
- not-fluent gradients - so, I know it's software-related, and its due using 16-bits and bad dithering/high contrast on SGS2 and happens not only on SGS2, but its much more visible on SGS2 display. The question is: are there any official upgrades or custom roms that address that issue? If not, are such planned?
You would have to ask Samsung that question . Again its something i dont notice .
- pink spot on photos - common for many many phones, but we know it can be greatly corrected by software update. Are there any good software upgrades / custom photo apps to address this issue?
No
- darker left side of screen - just read about it recently... is it common? can it be addressed by software/firmware upgrade?
Never heard of this one
- random power offs - I've heard that many users complain about their phones going off randomly. Some said it's just matter of dust or dirt... Is there anyone who's phone is power-offing randomly and don't know why?
Who are these many users out of six million some have got to have a reboot especially with some of the numptys who install roms without reading the instructions .
- high temperature - seems a problem too, due to slickness of SGS2. My question is, if it's really that troubling and if it can cause some defects after longer usage?
Only been out three months so who can tell long term .
Very hot never on my phone but i dont play games .
Would i buy another you bet .
Should you buy one a BIG BIG NO you have already found loads of might be problems that you will convince yourself exist on the phone you buy .
jje
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Op please please please understand people who tend to post in general section are usually ones with problems. Those are the threads u see with 10000s of post. Usually the there's very few having those problems in those threads.
Stop and think about it, if this phone was sold defective how could it reach 6million sold. Wouldn't the tech sites be all over it if this phone was faulty.
6million vs 30users on xda and who knows what they did to there phones.
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check out this video and let me kmow if you see any problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNL56Aae08
have had sgs2 for 2 months now have not faced a single problem
- Yellow tint is haaardly noticeable. You really have to be careful on a gray screen with low brightness to eventually notice it. It's not a problem at all.
- Pink spot ? I never had this issue, and I still haven't. But as stated, it's fixed in a software update, if needed.
- I haven't noticed any darker side (might be related to the yellow tint, so same reason)
- Random power offs: Haven't got any shutdown or reboot, even with custom ROMs.
- About heat problem, I got it sometimes a bit hot, but nothing preventing me from using it, or holding it.
So definately issues are not a big deal compared to the wonderfulness this phone is.
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check out this video and let me kmow if you see any problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNL56Aae08
have had sgs2 for 2 months now have not faced a single problem
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Really ? so my SG2 is just one of the fews that has yellow tint, pink spot, leaked light on home button, random high temperature issues ? so should i demand samsung to replace my SG2 ?
So I must be one of the 30 unhappy XDA people who post their problems, right?
Yes I have pink spot and the phone sometimes gets really hot, that's the two pissues I have but they don"t really bother as much as THE VOLUME of the in ear speaker and headphone volume output is very very low compare to any other phone I own (owned).
I have 4 friends who have SGS 2 and all of them complain about somehow low volume or muted sound, so I am sure it's not just me. (please don't post about using volume + or re setting the values by Samsung secret codes - tried all that, it doesn't work)
So if Samsung adress this issue with their next update I will be very happy.
Should you buy one a BIG BIG NO you have already found loads of might be problems that you will convince yourself exist on the phone you buy .
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Well, if that's only reason I guess I'll give it a try anyway .
Guys, thanks for posts, but lets stick to original form, which is: (future) fixes for problems and if they are a big deal for ppl who has them. These are all common problems (some are typical of all SGS2s) so there is no use in just saying that you have them or arguing on how common they are. I don't read XDA only, also other (not-english-language) forums, so these are based not only on XDA (tbh, they are based mainly on other sources).
Please, I wouldn't like this turn into flamewar.
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check out this video and let me kmow if you see any problem
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Hard to tell - the video quality is not really great.
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So I must be one of the 30 unhappy XDA people who post their problems, right?
Yes I have pink spot and the phone sometimes gets really hot, that's the two pissues I have but they don"t really bother as much as THE VOLUME of the in ear speaker and headphone volume output is very very low compare to any other phone I own (owned).
I have 4 friends who have SGS 2 and all of them complain about somehow low volume or muted sound, so I am sure it's not just me. (please don't post about using volume + or re setting the values by Samsung secret codes - tried all that, it doesn't work)
So if Samsung adress this issue with their next update I will be very happy.
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Maybe get one of these if you don't mind spending a bit of extra cash.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/FiiO-E5-Headphone-Amplifier_Portable-Audio_review
Yellow Tint Issue:
Its there on a lot of phones, A lot of people say this is a non issue because they cant see it on their phones ( or they have visual impairment ), they also fail to understand that the issue affects each phone very differently, with my personal experience of 30+ phones only 6 (AFAIK) had extremely minimal yellow tint.
My phone has a yellow tint, after knowing the 2.3.4 removes the tint I've stopped the replacement request already as it is pointless. It maybe a non issue to you or to the other 5,999,999 buyers but its there.
Gradient issue:
Some say its a rendering limitation on the GPU it self, others say it can be corrected at a kernel level by putting the render mode to 24bit.
Pink spots:
Software issue, I dont think samsung has any intentions to fix this, since this is a common norm with modern day cameras on mobile phones, this is a non issue for me.
Darker left side of the screen:
A lot of phones or maybe even all phones suffer from this issue from 0 to 20% brightness, at 30% it even outs a tiny bit, at 50% its non existent anymore.. My Galaxy S never had this issue even at 0% brightness, a non issue to me.
Random Power offs:
Never experienced it actually but I know a friend who had this issue got this unit replaced.
High temperature:
Different phones give off different heat profiles, I've been playing a lot of HD games on my phone and Its barely even warmer than playing Angry birds, on my friend's phone his heats up pretty good but not to the point that its alarming.
Despite all of these issues, I still love the phone. What bothers me the most is the screen issue though, none of these were on the Galaxy S and with the Galaxy S2 the general public has accepted these issue to be normal ( which baffles me ). Just dont let the people who wanna run statistics in your face tell you different.
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- Pink spot ? I never had this issue, and I still haven't. But as stated, it's fixed
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Theres no fix yet and I really doubt samsung will which such a small camera issue, its practically not there if you dont look for it.
If you wanna know about this then take a picture of a white sheet of paper under automatic white balance you should be able to see it even on the viewfinder mode.
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Op please please please understand people who tend to post in general section are usually ones with problems. Those are the threads u see with 10000s of post. Usually the there's very few having those problems in those threads.
Stop and think about it, if this phone was sold defective how could it reach 6million sold. Wouldn't the tech sites be all over it if this phone was faulty.
6million vs 30users on xda and who knows what they did to there phones.
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I honestly believe that there are more than 30 ppl in XDA having issues with the phone that includes random shut-off, overheating, camera issues, screen issues and battery life issues. But I guess those people who got unlucky with their phones are people who dont know how to use it right since the other 6M buyers didnt have issues at all. Issues are always a minority else the phone would never even hit mass production.. Even the GPS issues on the Galaxy S which was covered by techsites, they were a minority but that doesnt mean their issues are invalid/unrealistic/made up.
Stop *****ing around. It's a nice phone, if you like it buy it.
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Stop *****ing around. It's a nice phone, if you like it buy it.
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I dont think the OP is *****ing at anything, I believe he is asking for opinions from different users on what they think about the issue and their experiences with it. It actually pays to read the first post.
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I dont think the OP is *****ing at anything, I believe he is asking for opinions from different users on what they think about the issue and their experiences with it. It actually pays to read the first post.
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OP is *****ing
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I dont think the OP is *****ing at anything, I believe he is asking for opinions from different users on what they think about the issue and their experiences with it. It actually pays to read the first post.
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If he's thinking about getting a phone of this caliber, he chose it because of other features, which are far more significant then a "darker left side". I don't blame the OP, I read a LOT before buying it, because it's an expensive phone; but what's the point of asking all these? Some people have it, and they complained, some don't, they didn't... so at most you will get some random answers depending on your luck and which people reply to your thread. If I'd say yes my phone has a yellowish tint, would he not buy it anymore? Is this so decisive?
There are ****loads of threads which already discussed it; reading them all is lots of work, but asking this has the same results as you would open a thread like that and read 10 posts randomly, you just take a small sample and reassure yourself that it's a good phone, or the opposite.
Okay OP, let me tell you, this phone is the BEST you will ever get. I don't have any of the problems you said, expect the pink spot, which I never noticed until someone pointed it out. I know other people who have it and they don't have the problems either. Take my words, go and buy it now, it's awesome. Weee.
You sound like your the one *****ing
You know this thread wasn't meant to be about existance of flaws (which exist) but primarly about if there is a fix for them or if the fix is coming. Maybe I stated it wrong in original post (now as I read it, maybe that is the case).
EDIT: I am getting SGS2 later this week or the next week for 99%. I'll just check at the store if the yellow thing isn't a dealbreaker. If no, I'll get it. Of course any feedback on main topic (which is (upcoming) fixes) is welcome!
Cofalik, any normal person researching the SGS2 will get scared after reading the threads here. I've got the pink circle and yellow tinting, but the problems can be fixed/improved with software. Besides, they are difficult to detect (when not specifically looking for them) and only show up in certain conditions. I never had any heating problems or random reboots.
The phone is fanstastic. I think you're gonna love it.
However, if you don't, please blame someone else.
Great news guys, the currently most updated news have state that Samsung Developer is working on Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 colour rendering/banding/black clipping issue. Good job Samsung :good:
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Hello Janice,
We are working on this issue.
When I know something new, I will post it here.
Regards,
Adam Panasiuk
Samsung Developers
for more information please refer to http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/bbs/discussion/view.do?boardId=1132&boardName=AndroidBoard&messageId=155754&messageNumber=&messageCategoryId=4&startId=zzzzz~&startPage=1&curPage=1&rowsPerPage=10&searchType=TITLE&searchText=&searchDays=0&searchTitleFlag=false&searchContentsFlag=false&searchRegisterNicknameFlag=false&lastPageFlag=&categoryId=800&parentCategoryId=4&platformId=1&selectOrder=REGISTER_DATE&selectOrderDirection=DESC&searchParameters=%2Fbbs%2Fdiscussion%2Fthread.list.do%3FlistLines%3D10|searchType%3Dtitle|curPage%3D4|selectOrder%3DREGISTER_DATE|selectOrderDirection%3DDESC|messageCategoryId%3D4|&nacode=&listLines=10&searchTextForm=&searchTypeForm=TITLE
Good News!!
yes, this indeed is a good news for us :laugh:.
I think its a codec issue. I took one of the last movies that I watched via HDMI from the GSN to a sony bravia 42" wide-screen telly and then compared that to playing the same movie file direct to the bravia via usb. the difference is amazing. So I dont think its so much the screen, but more likley to be the codecs on the SGN.
Then why do some notes have the black crush and banding really bad, and some have it really mild?
My first note was a bad one which i returned, i waited a month and bough another and this one is a lot better.
I think it`s an hardware problem, the screen or the display chips i dont know, but if two notes are running identical software, and one is bad and the other is not, what else can it be.
John.
i hope they prepare a fix for this and the emmc bug soon..
good news. edit: it just shows that maybe if the community had gone done this route 6 months ago we MAY have got an outcome similar to this then, rather than waiting on a 3rd party developer to come up if a fix and nagging them all the way.
Oh and good job to Janice for taking the initiative to start that thread on Samsung Dev
Don't be optimistic about what Samsung says....... for how long have they promised to work on the eMMC bug but have gone silence since then? They will just continue to focus on their Latest Flagship SGS3 and how to sell 10 million copies by July and after that how to get SGN2 on the way.They will not do anything about this problem..... maybe we should report this SH*T to media like ENDGADGET,GSMARENA etc etc
nuramohammed26 said:
Don't be optimistic about what Samsung says....... for how long have they promised to work on the eMMC bug but have gone silence since then? They will just continue to focus on their Latest Flagship SGS3 and how to sell 10 million copies by July and after that how to get SGN2 on the way.They will not do anything about this problem..... maybe we should report this SH*T to media like ENDGADGET,GSMARENA etc etc
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Get your facts right, they never promised to work on the Emmc bug...
I think the issue is more of a mis-color calibration part on the phones. Some have less mis color calibration than others.
Samsung's head QA supervisors should be fired a long time ago with this issue. Releasing a product that is never quite fully baked at all.
friedje said:
Get your facts right, they never promised to work on the Emmc bug...
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i think you're the one who needs to get his facts straight.. read this thread >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698977
have a nice day..
I have exactly the same problem here but I think try Samsung will ignore it:crying:
musashiro said:
i think you're the one who needs to get his facts straight.. read this thread >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698977
have a nice day..
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As I said, they never promised anything, just some Samsung developers trying to help the community.
Do you have any idea how many ppl work at Samsung ?
Do you have any idea at which level these contacts are ?
Have you seen ANY official announcement from samsung on this issue ??
I didn't say they are not doing anything, I said they never promised anything.
So as I said to the other member, get your facts right, the same applies to you
Be either someone from Samsung on from these forums, just make an app that allow us to control Gamma curve on this device, I can manage the situation with that.
I did tests with gammatest.png image and it looks different displayed on the Gallery and on QuickView.
But we need some way to manually adjust the brightness level, to make lower RGB values darker. I would like to see RGB 1,1,1 pretty much black, and RGB 5,5,5 different from 10,10,10. Right now any brightness level between 1 and 20 is rendered with pretty much the same brightness, and 0 is pure black.
This gives dark scenes a very bad aspect, with a big gray and a big black area instead of a gradient.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Then why do some notes have the black crush and banding really bad, and some have it really mild?
My first note was a bad one which i returned, i waited a month and bough another and this one is a lot better.
I think it`s an hardware problem, the screen or the display chips i dont know, but if two notes are running identical software, and one is bad and the other is not, what else can it be.
John.
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Well, I cant fight that one. The symptoms appear as a potential codec issue, but, your own observation points in the other direction. It's what I call another 'Samsung sods muddle'.
Allegedly : Sam*ung know there is a problem with the screen, but they don't want a recall, so every time somebody rings Sa*sung support they get told this is the first they have heard about it, also people were reporting that negative posts on review website were deleted or edited, is there a cover up?
I think Sam*ung is working on the problem behind the scenes, and new stock is a lot better at least in my case, but still not perfect.
Though i know HT*C has a problem with the one x , I have one with a yellow blob on the screen, and So*y xperias has a problem with the screen color of there new mobile.
So it`s not just Sa*sung having problems.
I don't want Sams*ng to release a firmware fix, as not all note`s are bad and i don't want my note with a good screen getting worse.
The screens need to be calibrated individually, but this is going to require the phone being returned to a service center, as a hardware calibrator will be needed, but i doubt Sa*ung will do this.
I think a app similar to the "screen adjuster" one, but a improved version that does not require root, and has an example image you have to match with a slider like you do with a lcd display calibrator.
My advice is if you have a note with black clipping or banding and you cannot live with it, get it replaced, I have read that it took one note owner 5 exchanges before he got a good one.
John.
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Stop starring out company names.
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it seems like samsung galaxy nexus is also having the black clipping issue, some user have claim that it have been solved by using the lean kernel (colour calibration) "wonder is there any something like this for galaxy note ??? "
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus/465326-horrible-blue-aliasing-artifacts-black-areas-during-video-playback.html
I have notest that, when I am taking a photo with the camera software, in dark conditions, I don't see the black clipping effect. I take the photo... then open it in Gallary and... the clipping appears there. So is something in the software.
This is really bugging me.
I just did another round with Samsung regarding this. They are terrible. I told them that I exchanged my device and the new one still has the problem, now they want me to send the brand new one for repair which will take up.to 2 weeks. The first rep I spoke to at technical support acknowkedged the problem and said it was normal, at which point I linked her to a youtube vid of a dude who finally got them to replace his Note with on manufactured recently, she was like Oh, and forwarded ny call to customer services, who blatently lied and said that they were not aware of the issue, so I linked her to samsungs own developer forum where one of the devs have acknowledged the problem and said that they are working on it, only for her to say that it was a 3rd party website and if they knew about it, there would have been an official announcement, I advised her that it was not a 3rd party, and that it was samsungmobile.com but she was having none of it and wanted me to send for repair. I told her to log the complaint and stick it. I already went 4 days without a phone when they advised me to exchange fir a new one (which has the same issue) Now they want me to go without a phone for 2 weeks only to get it back with the same issue again. Fing LAME!