Demo launch video (French)
http://www.jbmm.fr/2011/06/conference-archos-23062011-videos/
Most of you have probably seen the Gen9 launch (above). Let's find out how many are planning to upgrade to it. Aside from participitating in the poll, please reply with your reasons why you will/won't buy one.
You missed item "maybe" I'll wait for real tests. I've bought Asus Transformer couple of days ago (waiting for delivery) and will play with it by the Autumn. Gen9 will probably my next toy, but maybe not -- it could be Amazon tablet or something else...
err HELL NO!!. too much drama with my 101, I would be a fool to go through it all again, shame really cos it had sooo much potential.
@Kocta
Yes, a "wait-and-see" option should've been included. Unfortunately, AFAIK polls can't be changed once they're up.
Instead, think of it like this: If you're favorably inclined toward buying one, based on the announced specs at this point in time, vote Yes. If not, vote No.
too much hardware and software issues so far with my Gen8 101... maybe again in 1-2 years when they've learned their lessons. but so far I'm planning to buy a Transformer or something similiar by the end of summer
me the 80 gen 9 and the 101 gen 9
No, because they made the wrong size.
As I'm flying alot i don't need that big thing.
The 70IT was just the right size.
Why did they do that?
The 80 is 8"? This isn't much bigger than 7", is it?
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The 80 is 8"? This isn't much bigger than 7", is it?
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In fact, just 2.2cm (=1") bigger
And they've said that they'll bring out 6 Tablet from 5" to 10".
I think these will be A50 A70 A80 A90 and the A101
Wht do you think?
IMHO the 90 should be replaced by a 40 ^^
@Lennb to be exact: 1" = 2,54cm but it's not about the numbers, it's about "how big" does it feel.
1" more in screensize doesn't translate to a 1" bigger device.
Because they changed the format from 16:9 to 4:3 we have 2cm wider but 4 cm higher device.
That is more then 35% higher.
And that 4cm is enough that it doesn't fit in a normal pant pocket ( temp while entering/leaving plane ) and generally makes the thing alot bulkier.
so the new screen format is the problem, not the size for itself
Only if they upgrade Gen8 to Honeycomb - cause then I'd have more faith in the comapny :-D
I'll stick to my newly bought gen8 101.
First of all it'd be a pain to sell it now and wait for the release in sept. Selling it after the release will just have a huger price drop.
Second it's still a budget tablet, u can get good stuff but it won't be like u suddenly get handed an ipad3 / asus transformer 2 / ...
The only things that rly interest me in this is the dualcore and the honeycomb, which both i can live without. (doubt the screen is that much better than the 101it atm)
Since the Gen9 uses the same OMAP4430 as the Pandaboard @ pandaboard.org I'll try one and see how much work it will be to replace the factory bootloader/firmware with u-boot gitorious.org/pandaboard/u-boot
There is no reason why a tabklet should take more than a few seconds to power-on to login for Linux. A few people are also working on knocking off 20 seconds or so from starting Android.
I have already been working with the Pandaboard and if Archos hasn't done too poor a job with the rest of the tablet it might be worth it.
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Only if they upgrade Gen8 to Honeycomb - cause then I'd have more faith in the comapny :-D
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that would rly be a big win on their part
however marketing predicts it's never going to happen (even if they get around the possible ram issue ppl talk about)
I will wait to see if they will upgrade it to IceCream-Sandwich and if they launch another models. May be I will just get me an Archos 7c. Or an Archos Phone Tablet(Dreams come true ). In two months time we will see. Of course it can be something not from Archos, like TF2...
I am seriously wondering whether Archos delivered more problems with the current firmwares (esp. the Battery-Issues) in order to make people buy Gen9 due to being less satisfied with their Gen8 Actually in my case it would be just the other way around - only if Archos manages to deliver a firmware that makes the Gen8 what it is supposed to be, I would ever consider buying any Archos-tablet again.
So there are two conditions: 1. Wait and see if the main Gen8-Firmware-Issues will be fixed 2. Wait and see if the Gen9 come up with similar issues like the USB-Host-failure on Gen8 (I had two of those!) after a few months.
If Archos doesnt come along with a real step forward on firmware soon I will downgrade to 2.1.08 and wait for an easy Custom-ROM-Solution, then watch the market a little longer and save some money for something that lives up to what it is praised for by marketing, probably not Archos again....
It's a pity, the Gen8 really looked good, too, now I havbe become really cautious and suspicious with Archos.
A resounding NO.
I love new gadgets but under no circumstances would i buy another archos tablet. Did anyone else feel robbed after they had used their gen device for a while? I know i did. From random reboots, usb and wifi issues to ridiculous firmware updates that only made things worse!!! I know that i bought a "budget tablet" but I cant help feeling that I should have paid alot less for this device than 300 euro (200 for the 101 would've been more like it and then i might've upgraded to gen 9).
Archos need to learn a lesson and this consumer intends to teach (not that anyone would listen).
Here's hoping that Bodhi linux quench's my disappointment a little.
p.s. To the people who voted yes, you're either crazy or have too much money lying around.
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Hopefully the following article is misinformed (I do also have a Tab)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/03/honeycomb-to-require-dual-core-processor-initially-tablet-only/
Otherwise we'll have to wait for devs to port Honeycomb to our tabs. Which may very well not happen since few of them have SGTs (and given the news flow they may very well pass it...) plus our hardware may be too limited (Underpowered processor, too small screen resolution) and we may very well want to pass on honeycomb too (If it's only for tabs and not for phones, forget about phone functionalities...)
Anyway let's just hope this is not true (Would hate to have to dump my tab only after 3 months of use...)
It's not like SGT becomes somehow inferior just because there's a new version of Android. It is a great device as it is.
All the more reason for me to justify picking up a Tab 2 when it is released
I love my tab as it is, and I see that there are already improvements to be made through updates to FroYo, so I am not really worried because I am satisfied even with my stock tab now.
Same here - I bought an unactivated vzw tab, and it just does everything I need. If there's a Tab 2 with Honeycomb, I'll look at it, but with my other android devices, the dev community seems to produce better functionality than the vendors do, and I can hopefully skip all the vendor-installed crap with a clean image when that time arrives.
R.I.P.
These are really bad news for us owners.
Maybe I'll switch to iOS devices then. They're running so much smoother compared to android 2.X devices...
We won't see how good the tab with its powervr 540 graphics would perform with proper hardwareacceleration honeycomb will provide.
And that, ladies and gentlemen is why we're all here on XDA......
The way things are looking, unless Google is planning on HC being a tablet only OS, there will be a basic HC OS for phones and an extra feature set that's unlocked for tablets with dual core procs and 1280 X 720 screens. What may happen is that the 7" tablet will essentially be an oversized phone with XDA hacking it so you can use the tablet features on the 7" tablets.
As a Galaxy Tab owner I'm not really that butthurt by this because I can envision having a camera phone and 7" tablet as mobile devices and a wifi only 12" tablet for home use. If the HC tablet features truly require a larger screen, then I'm content with a 7" tablet that more of a mobile device.
I am a big fan of the 16:9 screen dimension. Better for movies and better for mutli-pane implementation.
The worry I have is this will just cut the spread of SGT buyers. If we end up with a device not very popular and with a small customer/devs base you can forget about any dream of good custom roms or app developments
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HTC is rumored to be releasing a 7" tablet, and the SGT has sold millions in a short amount of time. Unlike the iPhone, there was no carrier based reason to purchase the SGT over the iPad, but people did, in large part due to the form factor. I suspect that the 7" tab will not go away.
LOL, Any body want to sell their antiquated Galaxy Tab?
I've been looking to get one on AT&T or T-Mo... a trade for a mint 16GB iPhone4 perhaps???
FUD
There are no mins for Gingerbread, and IF there are any for Honeycomb, the community devs will pull apart what is a good update for the GTab and cook it up.
Honestly if you are worried, start a fund to get a tab into more dev hands...
lets not forget these are claims and have not been officialy confirmed by Google themselves yet... we still have hope. i don't think Samsung will just abandon us like this. they will probably be expecting to release their next sucessor to the tab in september. honeycomb will come out before then, and hopefully the update will be pushed out to us. the gtab was made in mind to be upgradable to Honeycomb. much like the HD2 was made to be upgradable to WP7... but that never happened.
only time will tell if we get the update.
lets not forget these are claims and have not been officialy confirmed by Google themselves yet... we still have hope. i don't think Samsung will just abandon us like this. they will probably be expecting to release their next sucessor to the tab in september. honeycomb will come out before then, and hopefully the update will be pushed out to us. the gtab was made in mind to be upgradable to Honeycomb. much like the HD2 was made to be upgradable to WP7... but that never happened.
only time will tell if we get the update.
Eh...it's only bad news if you don't like your Tab the way it is now. So it's not bad news for me, it's just more news.
What is bad is how all of a sudden there are so many deals for people to get these Galaxy Tabs. That had dramaticly reduced the cost. My guess that are getting rid of invintory. And it seems this is going on before CES. Just my view
What deals? That $100 Verizon price drop? Good luck finding a Verizon store that will sell one for $500 no-contract, it's a rumor and not official, at least not yet.
The T-Mobile $349 on a 2-year? That's not a price reduction, it's a little lubrication for the contract buttsecks. The Best Buy and Amazon sales? Short term holiday traffic generators. The UK/Euro price drops? Those were adjustments to bring the device in line with US pricing once the North American Tabs were released.
Lets not forget economy of scale, the more they make and sell, the cheaper each individual unit becomes to produce, and they can (and often do) lower prices over the life of a product to reflect this.
As for Honeycomb, Asus just announced a 7" Honeycomb tablet with 1024x600 resolution, so that part of the specs rumor is busted right away.
And any way you slice it, we're looking at March at the very least for a Honeycomb tablet explosion*. That's six months after the Tab launched. That's six months of awesome Tab usage before you should start to get the urge to replace it.
The alternative would have been to do without for six months. Life is too short for holding out for the next best thing...buying the best thing you can now is almost always a better bet.
*The Motorola tablet may launch before then, but frankly, I don't give a DAMN about the Motorola tablet, because it's a 10" device and I don't want one of those.
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The alternative would have been to do without for six months. Life is too short for holding out for the next best thing...buying the best thing you can now is almost always a better bet.
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i am with u but u need money to burn
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The alternative would have been to do without for six months. Life is too short for holding out for the next best thing...buying the best thing you can now is almost always a better bet.
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No truer words have been spoken.
You can play the waiting game forever. By the time the Honeycomb tablets are finally in the wild, the next generation tablet hardware / software will already be announced. At some point you just got to buy.
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I just got a tablet running Samsung S5PV210 and I do hope it would be upgrade to honeycomb. The tablet run Android 2.2 OS currently, and its hardware specs. as following on the site where I picked up.
I'm going to contact with the vendor and ask for certain upgrade info.
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As for Honeycomb, Asus just announced a 7" Honeycomb tablet with 1024x600 resolution, so that part of the specs rumor is busted right away.
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I also believe that one of the announced Asus tablets with Honeycomb also has a 1Ghz snapdragon so that busts the Dual Core requirement too.
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
I've had the same thought, but since my GF got it for me for X-mas, I'm gonna keep using it, and give it back to her when I can afford a XOOM
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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I got the tab in January and so far other than gaining root haven’t done anything else with it, the mobility factor is a big plus no question about it, but then I got the xoom on launching day and now I really like them both…so if or when you do it you will appreciate the differences.
I think the Devs have nothing to do with your decision.
I really like the form factor, but performance is an issue with my tab. and with the dev community not really huge, i feel left out of so much with all of these honeycomb tegra2 tablets coming out. I just really feel that Samsung really jumped the gun with the tab. releasing it with no hopes of any real update. Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
Maybe SGT 8.9 if released with similar specs as of the xoom. and reasonably priced
The tegra processors and Honycomb make our tab look outdated already but IMO the differences are not that big unless one expects too much from a tablet; is not going to replace our laptops yet…as for sami updating my hopes are nonexistent. I was in Germany recently when a saw the tab of a friend of mine, phone working etc I turned green . My biggest beef is with the carriers here in the US that crippled the device.
tegra 2 isnt a device without their own problem
like not able to play 720p mkv movies unless it converted on a specific format
that would be a problem to some people
and is there really a lot of app that dual core ready anyway?
afaik, for normal process, only 1 core would work unless there's a need for the 2nd core?
jumping too soon on honeycomb with limited apps wouldnt make that much of a difference either
and did you say saving up? how long? ^^
if it took months, who knows we already got honeycomb or ice cream on the way on our tab?
honeycomb, i doubt, but the next generation for smartphone definitely gonna be ported to our tab IMO
my main interest in this tab is phone capability, so unless there's another contender out there, i'm still gonna keep this one
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Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
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I'm trying to see what trickery Samsung have fooled you with here?
The 7" Tab was sold as an Android 2.2 device, with no promise of a Honeycomb update, and that's what they delivered.
We may, or may not get an official upgrade, which may be Honeycomb, or perhaps Gingerbread, but the Tab is still a very capable and useful device as is IMO. I do believe that we will at least get an unofficial Honeycomb ROM once the source code drops.
None of the upcoming tablets can replace my Tab because they are too big for my purposes, though I may end up getting a bigger tablet purely for home use.
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Dave
For me its all about size, the 10s are just to big to carry around comfortably. Might as well continue to carry my Dell mini9 laptop. I dont require much from my tab maybe thats why Im happy with the 7.
Remember no matter what you buy it has a good 6 months of obsolescence built in
I think most devs wait for the honeycomb source... no one wants a broken sdk port on an expensive device...
As soon as HC hits aosp I'll contribute developing.
And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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Agreed. The xoom may be "developer friendly" but it is way too expensive to mess around with.. the galaxy tab gets cheaper and cheaper and will attract more devs too over time.
Why are we comparing the Tab and the Xoom? Two totally different niches. Anyone buying a Tab should know what they are getting, and most that do are getting them for a reason. 7 inches, and a solid product with the full Android Market without having to push it onto the device.
I have three different 7 inch tablets right now (had a 4th, but the Dell Streak 7 is dismal) and the Galaxy Tab is BY FAR the best of the three. The NookColor is fun, and is running dual-boot Honeycomb (port from sdk) and froyo. It's overclocked to 1.1Ghz and is primarily used by my wife as an e-reader (which is what B&N intended), though she likes firing up Angry Birds, etc.
The Archos 70 Internet Tablet is running 2.2.1..and is slim and can handle just about ANY media thrown it's way. Archos is a leader in Media devices, having created the HDD portable Music player before anyone else (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos)...including Apple. It's hands down the best for watching movies. However it's flimsy and buggy...Archos sucks at support, truly. Plus, there's not much in the way of accessories for it. I had the 10.1 also...but sold it.
My Tab gets the most use...as I swap my phone's sim into it quite frequently. And it handles pretty much everything I want it to do. Out of the 3, theres no comparison as to my satisfaction.
If I wanted another 10" Tablet...and wanted Honeycomb right now, I STILL would not get the Xoom. I can afford it, but that doesn't mean I want to plunk down $800 on something obviously rushed out of production. Too many things wrong with this early adopter device.
Here's to hoping the incoming 8.9' Galaxy Tab has some of the kinks worked out...cuz I'm gonna pounce on it right away. 10.1" prolly not, the form factor just too large for my usage.
Whatever some people get, they will NEVER be satisfied
hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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If you bought a tablet based on the dev community then you were wrong to do that in the first place. You buy something for what it is, not what it may be based on some random people messing around with roms.
I can't see how a 10" Xoom could possibly be a replacement for the 7" SGT. One you can carry around with you, use in your car, act as a backup phone, and the other is mostly a stay at home couch device. Personally I think the Xoom is a bit of a let down on things it should be better at - like playing high bitrate movies. SGT blows it away on that score. The SGT build and screen is also very high quality. As good as my iPad 1 (which I've not really touched since the SGT came along. Never mind how I've come to despise the Apple lock-in methodology...).
Honeycomb looks like it will be a great update when the bugs are ironed out, but Froyo (maybe Gingerbread soon) on the SGT currently makes more sense as the device really is closer to a phone than a tablet (and I'm personally happy that it is). Ice Cream Sandwich looks like it will be the natural OS upgrade for this device, as it will combine Honeycomb UI changes with smartphone functionality. Whether Samsung will release it for the SGT in the coming months is anyone's guess, but for now I'm rocking the Tab. For a couch device I'll see what the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is like (hopefully they'll find a fix for the video snafu), but none of the Tegra 2 SoC based tablets are wowing me at the moment.
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hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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Lol...not mine, she's become a gadget snob. Though she won't admit it, she's glad to be cutting edge. I see it when her girlfriends drool over the cool gadgets she totes around, lmao. We'll go get coffee, and she will look to see who noticed her pretty NookColor while she's reading and surfing the internets.
So you're selling a device because people aren't modding it? IMHO that's a ridiculous reason to sell this amazing piece of tech.
And im guessing one main reason is Honeycomb because, lets face it, its what everyone wants in a tablet. Then why not buy a Nook? You complain lack of development, the Nook Honeycomb port is better than anything they'll ever do with the Xoom.
Still, just my opinion. I'm keeping my Tab until it dies, then ill get another one.
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and..truly one of these days someone WILL put out an Android device that doesn't need modding! Might be 3 years from now...with 8 core cpu & AirWave connectivity (5+TB wireless connection passed through our existing electrical cables that are strung on the poles...or passed through now vacated VHF / UHF signals...yeah, I can dream BIG!)
But you will only be able to get 3g data or 2g+ voice.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OR Wait for Tegra Three devices?
I would also allow for you to suggest other devices but please only android and please only 10 inch tablets.
Also the new tegra three devices might not be as thin or good-looking as the samsung which i really care about.
The only reason i like tegra is because of the support it has in the android app developing community so please try to keep the suggestions to tegra devices unless you have a good reason to contradict it.
This is simple for me.
If you can wait, wait.
If not go for it.
I couldn't wait
If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol. When Tegra 3 devices come out, Tegra 4 will be announced. I passed on the galaxy tab to wait for a tegra 2 device and now I hear nvidias "Kal-El" quad core. **** it! I'm going for the Gtab!
lol might as well buy the Samsung now and then sell it once the new one you like comes out. But its true, do you really want to keep waiting? Not I, I'm jumping on June 8th.
Personally I would get one now. You can play the waiting game and never get one as there is always a better one around the corner. You can of course wait but I suspect that you won’t see many better or 4 core tablets announced until CES 2012 next year.
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If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol.
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No, if you can wait, it means.... you can wait! I don't know about the rest of you, but I've lived my life just fine without a table. It will be a cool toy to have, but I don't NEED one. Tech gadgets are always progressing, but the tablet market is currently moving at a very fast pace. Tegra 3 is supposed to be out later this year, and is supposed to be 5x the performance. That's a much more significant performance/time ratio than other more "mature" tech products. If you can wait, then there's certainly something to be said for jumping on when the curve flattens out a little. What I do will depend a lot on pricing.
i think it's worth waiting... tegra3 pre production chips allready shipped to manyfacturers, mass production starts around august. motorola and probably asus will be releasing products short after ( promising releases before back-to-school time )
this means that you can, in theory, own a quad core beast in within 3 to 4 months months...
and they are realy fast, throw your pc and your mediaplayers out of the window and start using your tablet instead
perhaps you can invest in a program like best buy's buy back program, so when something new comes out, you can trade in your old and get the new for cheap
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
Take Samsung for example, think of the time and money that has been spent building and promoting their new tablets around the world. I really don't see them coming out with any new tablets at the end of the year even if they had the new teleology. they first need to make a profit.
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
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Asus, Motorola, and Amazon (and probably others) are all rumored to have Tegra 3 tablets by the end of the year. You can't make much money off of the products you currently have on the market if they are obsoleted by new products your competitors are offering.
I'm going to revise my initial answer.
If you're asking the question "Should I wait?". You should wait.
After the iPad released last year, I started trying to imagine, what exactly I would use a tablet for. Once I was a bit settled on what I wanted to do with it, I started looking for something that would match my needs.
When the 10.1v was announced I realised it was a match and I eagerly went after it.
Maybe you should wait until you are certain that the tablet you are buying is a match for your requirements.
I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-light
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
-brilliant batery (i charge it each night but it only gets down to 30-50% after full day of use)
-netbook replacment (people will argue this but i haven't found a netbook more fun then this, and you can put debian on it )
-casual gaming (not sure of anything on the market you cannotplay onit except porley designed games that are just tiny boxs)
Things it isn't:
-high def cinema (you can run standard def fine and it looks great but if you are obsesd with 720P wait)
-ipad (yer thats a pritty good reason )
-high end device (tegra 2 is fun and all but nexus s still out performes all tegra 2 devices so if you want the bigest and best wait for qualcomm)
In conclusion if you want a great device that doesn't need to be compared to a PC (which i hate that thats were we uave goten in tablets) then go pick one up, but if your after a device that you want to luanch thermal nucular war with wait for qualcomm.
Note: bad spelling is becuase i'm dislexcic(fail i know thats wroung but cannot remember the correct spelling)
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good try with the spelling lol
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I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
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Ahh. You're more into the 30 pin connector then?
I'll stop short of making a crack about the shape of said connector
I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
galtom said:
Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Unfortunately no.
The eLocity A7 is a 2.2 tablet, so it is being eclipsed by the new 3.0 tablets. But the current A7 prices ($180 used, $240 new on eBay) are much lower than the 3.0 tablets. So I've been contemplating picking one up for noodling around while I am riding around on mass transit. Basically playing Angry Birds, Plants versus Zombies, listening to MP3's, reading Kindle books, and watching videos. As an unlocked device it might also be fun to try other ROM's too. So I am curious about current user's perceptions.
Would you buy your A7 again at current prices?
How usable is it out of the box versus needing to install Dexter's ROM's?
As I understand it, the A7 isn't true multi-touch, but does support pinch to zoom. How limiting have you found this?
Dexter appears to be hard at work on A7comb, but there are bugs. Have user's found this a viable way to use Honeycomb on the A7?
I just bought one the other week for 240 off of ebay and am loving it. Don't feel like there is anything in the same price range that can do what it does. I simply wanted to be able to play nes, snes, and psx roms on the go with an xbox 360 controller, as well as play HD videos and output it through HDMI. So I am happy with my purchase.
I would definitely recommend putting on dexters mod as well as the xbox patch if you have a 360 controller.
I feel though if you don't want the 360 controller support there might be better options for you in this price range that still have hdmi support.
Thanks good to hear. I had heard about the 360 controller support, but I doubt I would use that during the commute.
I would buy the A7 at current prices. I paid $300 when they first appreaed on Amazon becuse I wanted Tegra performance with plenty of RAM and Storage. I would definitely use Dexters ROM becuase it gives you the market. (Three Cheers for Dex)
I use Dolphin HD for a browser and A7 Zooming works just fine just by touching the + - screen icon.
I use the Nook Reader, do email and calendars, surf the web and listen to my favorite MP3. Except for the reader, these are activities I used to do on my little droid. These are much better on the A7.
I also use a Tega2 which is a 10.1 tablet which will run Android or Windows. Right now I am running Win7 Professional and it does everything a Netbook would do. If Windows 8 meets my expectations, I will use it on the Tega2 10.1.
I will be upgrading my phone soon. I am considering a an HTC Thunderbolt setup to take advantage of Verizon's very fast 4G. The Thunderbolt will also act as a mobile Hotspot for my A7 and make it truley mobile.
Price is what you pay; value is what you get. I am satisfied with the value of my A7.
I do have one gripe for StreamTV, makers of the A7. I don't think they understand or appreaciate the value of the Dexter's of this world. Their hardware would be so much more valueable if they cooperated with the XDA community and Dexter and help him realize the full potential of the hardware. I keep hoping StreamTV managment will wake up one day and empower the XDA community with A7's code. Doing so would only enhance the name and value of StreamTV.
I do have one gripe for StreamTV, makers of the A7. I don't think they understand or appreaciate the value of the Dexter's of this world. Their hardware would be so much more valueable if they cooperated with the XDA community and Dexter and help him realize the full potential of the hardware. I keep hoping StreamTV managment will wake up one day and empower the XDA community with A7's code. Doing so would only enhance the name and value of StreamTV
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I know they don't know jack, i talk to two differen person there a lady and guy and none of them have any idea about what is going on with their own product, i mention to the guy about dexter and xda because they have a piece on dexter and xda on their site and they still don't have a clue..
Oh and i would recommend to get the a7 anytime...
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I do have one gripe for StreamTV, makers of the A7. I don't think they understand or appreaciate the value of the Dexter's of this world. Their hardware would be so much more valueable if they cooperated with the XDA community and Dexter and help him realize the full potential of the hardware. I keep hoping StreamTV managment will wake up one day and empower the XDA community with A7's code. Doing so would only enhance the name and value of StreamTV.
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StreamTV/eLocity are not the manufacturers of this device. The manufacturer is Compal, and eLocity is just a branded reseller.
Also I REALLLLLY suspect that they don't have anything to do with any coding at all, never mind releasing more than they already have... Remember back to when they were releasing kernel source. They blamed the delays on their "overseas programmers". Sure it takes a little reading between the lines, but they couldn't provide anything because the actual manufacturer hadn't supplied them with anything.
Not so much...
It has been a special experience getting these various ROMs that have been giving a much needed level of usefulness to the Elocity A7. If I knew it was going to require all this to get some basic enjoyment out of this device, it would have never been purchased with my tech dollars. Kudos to Dexter and others for making it worth more than a Frisbee but, Archos seems like it may have been a better choice or simply waiting for the dust to settle before buying anything at all.
Multi-touch, which is very standard now and was even on lower powered handsets when this Tab came out, just seems like a must have.
We know tablets work differently than phones but, having affordable large MicroSD cards but a poor access and management solution just blows, perhaps this device was rushed to shelves too soon.
Nice bright 7" inch display with non-backlit keys...this has been aggravating on numerous occasions.
Every once in a while I take a look at that docking port and mumble "one day, one day".
There has been occasions when a daydream about what could be done if the SIM card slot wasn't blocked would pop into my head then that too fades away.
Very grateful for the ear-buds that were included, they really make up for the low volume of the built-in speakers.
There are many great aspects about this tablet but, it's not without it's flawS.
I recently got another tablet, Acer Iconia A500 which i started supporting..
and i can say, that i suspect knowing where the latest COMPAL "picasso" went
Iconia A500 is another COMPAL product, but fully 3.1 compatible and probably 2nd/3rd gen. of compal products..
so if you find a compal picasso dupe, it is probably compatible with acer's latest product. but the devices are now locked (but they can be semi-opened), so its not easy to modify, but it is possible.
anyways, i think thats why the new products are delayed probably where compal put its focus now.. making 3.x tablets..
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is the IconiaA500 in US, not compable pricewise to $300 ?
Honeycomb on A7, folio100,Vega etc.. are all using semi-GL drivers, which does not work 100% which makes it not perfect, but A7 works prety ok (i havent installed the original mod since my honeycomb install).. but since its not getting drivers made and any new kernel compiled, a real update is far from being made..
Dexter, the Iconia A500 is $450 in the US. If I was going to spend that amount I would likely opt for the Asus at 400 as I think there build quality is usually pretty good.
If I understand the driver issue. StreamTV released the kernel source, but the drivers remained closed source? So the 2.2 binary drivers aren't fully compatible with Honeycomb?
Even with it's super sensative screen and horrible built in speakers I would still go out and buy another one if I had to. It's HDMI out, super fast processor and great price are a good deal IMO.
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Dexter, the Iconia A500 is $450 in the US. If I was going to spend that amount I would likely opt for the Asus at 400 as I think there build quality is usually pretty good.
If I understand the driver issue. StreamTV released the kernel source, but the drivers remained closed source? So the 2.2 binary drivers aren't fully compatible with Honeycomb?
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In Denmark Acer is actually cheaper ($15), but it has the extra builtin usb device port. and it seems now that the "dolby" feature acer got, it much preferred over assus when it comes to audio.
A7,
the drivers are there, and source is ok. but its an old one, and nvidia adapted drivers differently..and im no that "hardcore" when it comes to drivers conversion where needed..
but it is all there, 2.6.32.9 kernel source is ok, i compiled and used it for some ports.
So dexter the A7 reach its potential with updates, vizio or asus will be my next choice..
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Even with it's super sensative screen and horrible built in speakers I would still go out and buy another one if I had to. It's HDMI out, super fast processor and great price are a good deal IMO.
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Agreed 100%
For the money, it's a great device.
I find every last complaint about it unfounded... If people wanted all the features of a $700+ tablet, then they would have bought one. Don't spend less than half of that and complain because it doesn't have a couple of the same features lol
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Agreed 100%
For the money, it's a great device.
I find every last complaint about it unfounded... If people wanted all the features of a $700+ tablet, then they would have bought one. Don't spend less than half of that and complain because it doesn't have a couple of the same features lol
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The A7 is a super sweet tablet. My eyes are not what they used to be and I really needed something with a larger screen so I bought the WiFi Xoom, and my daughter promptly stole the A7 from me. Size-wise, the A7 is really great (nice and light and a good size for many games) but hard for me to use on the road for work because it has such a small screen. Also battery life is too short, but with the Pal Energizer power pack 8000 (supports 19 v) that can be fixed (though one more thing to carry). Multi-touch is nice but my Xoom is almost too sensitive.
I think each tablet has it's own ups and downs, but I love them both.
Both are also greatly improved by being rootied and customized, so huge thanks to all the developers!
I'm sold, compared to the resistive screen tablets which are not much cheaper, the A7 sounds like a better option. I know about the short battery life, but I plan to use on the T, charge, then then use on the way home.
I'll reply when I become a user which should hopefully be soon.
A7 is a good alternative for now, at the price you can get it! 110%..
if you dont mind the small limitation of android2.2 or semi-3.0 i have given the added value of a A7. its a nice tablet, and i have used it more often than my folio100 ever was in my living room..and it kinda light weight
An aside for anyone thinking of buying a used A7. I've watched several eBay auctions (and won one last night). A 3 month old A7 with case went for $168.50, another a7 failed to meet its reserve and the auction ended at $157.50.
I won an auction for an a7 with case and 16 GB SD card for $190. I figured the SD card and case made it worth a bit more.
So all of these prices are inline with my observation that a used A7 is going for about $180 US.
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An aside for anyone thinking of buying a used A7. I've watched several eBay auctions (and won one last night). A 3 month old A7 with case went for $168.50, another a7 failed to meet its reserve and the auction ended at $157.50.
I won an auction for an a7 with case and 16 GB SD card for $190. I figured the SD card and case made it worth a bit more.
So all of these prices are inline with my observation that a used A7 is going for about $180 US.
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Lucky.
I paid a little over $300 for my A7, plus a new 16bg mircoSD, plus a case
Well new has a warranty while used is a risk. But if I have a working A7 a week from now (that keeps working) I will feel lucky.
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Well new has a warranty while used is a risk. But if I have a working A7 a week from now (that keeps working) I will feel lucky.
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Best of luck.
As long as you keep your expectations of it realistic, you'll love it.
I know there is a poll already, but I think there needs to be more options. And since you can't edit a poll after the fact, I am making a new poll. You can also select more than one option.
I'm very interested to know why so many Gen8 owners just aren't interested in Gen9. I think it's a good upgrade over the Gen8. Gonna sell mine, hopefully get $175 for it, and then my Gen9 will only cost about $150.
I know one of the options says "only if Archos promises Honeycomb". I know Archos says it will have Honeycomb shipped, but last time they said Gen8 would have Froyo shipped, and it didn't. If they do the same again, I don't think people will be happy.
What say you?
No i'll wait, unless they promise honeycomb (i take it that reflects gen8) as that would mean we might get the next one(s) on gen9 aswel.
No, I meant unless they actually promise and ship Gen9 with Honeycomb.
Honestly, I think Archos is done with major updates for Gen8.
I am fairly certain that all we'll get from here on out is minor bugfixes. The tablet market is heating up, and they are trying to break through. That means all of their attention is going to be on Gen9 and getting Honeycomb on it. So unless they've ported Honeycomb for the Gen8 already, I don't see us getting it (unless a dev gives it).
You don't have a "yes if they give us SDE again"
I'll only be getting one if I can dual boot it easy.
~Jeff
Will wait for reviews. Build quality is important, would be willing to pay extra for a solidly built tablet with the same specs, but I don't think thats what we are going to get.
The Archos (70 IT at least) are really solid, mine as fallen from a head height, and, yes, the case is broken, but the screen isn't and everything work as out of the box, do the same with an ipad, the screen is dead.
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Will wait for reviews. Build quality is important, would be willing to pay extra for a solidly built tablet with the same specs, but I don't think thats what we are going to get.
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I think I am one of the few people who think that the Gen8 was well constructed. My A70 has always been solid, and I was very surprised at that.
Anyway, apparently the Gen9 has a uni-body frame (at least I remember reading that somewhere) which should lend to greater stability than ever before. I'm sure Charbax will get his hands on one soon, and let us know his impressions of the device.
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I think I am one of the few people who think that the Gen8 was well constructed. My A70 has always been solid, and I was very surprised at that.
Anyway, apparently the Gen9 has a uni-body frame (at least I remember reading that somewhere) which should lend to greater stability than ever before. I'm sure Charbax will get his hands on one soon, and let us know his impressions of the device.
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Actually liked the gen 8 A101 for what it was an "entry level device". Was light and thin, very convenient and not a hassle to transport around. And the investment was appropriate for where the technology was. After seeing the the Samsung offerings I wish archos would add a little eye candy along with great specs.
They're shipping with Honeycomb. (since 3.2 is around the corner, we most likely get 3.1 then promised for 3.2)
All demos run HC. Best of all, Google Approved Market.
(This was a deal break for some when they ship Gen8 with no Market. You need to sideload + do the app fix to show all apps)
I believe Gen8 was right on the price/function ratio. (~1:1)
I paid $250 for A70 vs $699 for Sammy Tab.
This time Gen9 is well exceeded this ratio. (~1:2)
$279 for 1.5Ghz Dual core. 3G for $50 more. 16GB + microSD. HDMI. Full USB.
vs.
$629 ipad 2 3G (Got this for Bday... consider selling it once Gen9 available)
1 GHz Dual Core. 16GB no microSD. HDMI(+$79 for stupid dongle). no USB.
The biggest problem i had with Gen8 was the memory being so low (only ~256MB)
From the Demos, i can tell it's as fast as the Asus Transformer (which has 1GB ram). So I'm sure this will have at least 512MB (same as iPhone 4 or iPad 2)
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The biggest problem i had with Gen8 was the memory being so low (only ~256MB)
From the Demos, i can tell it's as fast as the Asus Transformer (which has 1GB ram). So I'm sure this will have at least 512MB (same as iPhone 4 or iPad 2)
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Seriously, if Archos puts less than 1GB of RAM of these tablets, i'm gonna pull my hair out. There just isn't any reason to put 512MB in it. The cost difference can't be that much, after all, it is DDR2.
I just don't see why Archos would go for the minimum (I think Honeycomb requires min 512MB), when it is so clear that the amount of memory is absolutely crucial to a tablet's performance and success.
I would be very surprised and disappointed if they did that. I can forgive anything else (no back camera, no customized Flash, even cheap plastic materials), but I can't forgive them hamstringing the Gen9 with less than 1GB of memory.
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Seriously, if Archos puts less than 1GB of RAM of these tablets, i'm gonna pull my hair out. There just isn't any reason to put 512MB in it. The cost difference can't be that much, after all, it is DDR2.
I just don't see why Archos would go for the minimum (I think Honeycomb requires min 512MB), when it is so clear that the amount of memory is absolutely crucial to a tablet's performance and success.
I would be very surprised and disappointed if they did that. I can forgive anything else (no back camera, no customized Flash, even cheap plastic materials), but I can't forgive them hamstringing the Gen9 with less than 1GB of memory.
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They already confirmed the hardware specs^^
They have 1 gb ram
Will these be able to play high profile 4.1 mkv since it isn't a Tegra2. If so I will buy this asap, with a dual core 1.5ghz it should be able to
3.1 not 4.1. And you can't buy them asap; they're not on sale until the end of September.
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They already confirmed the hardware specs^^
They have 1 gb ram
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OK, I thought it was just an unconfirmed "leak" that showed the specs. Well, good. I am looking forward to getting my hands on Gen9 then.
The fact that android needs at least 512meg of RAM to run is sickening. I can run a full blown Linux OS with 128meg.
~Jeff
In my best old people voice:
"I remember years past when a man could get by with just a shade over 64 Mega bites of memory and a commodore 16. Kids today...with their facebooks and the twitters. I had to hand deliver messages ya little punk!"
As some previous posters had also noted, only if Archos manages to deliver a firmware that makes the Gen8 what it is supposed to be, would I ever consider buying any Archos-tablet again.
Until such time, NO WAY!
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As some previous posters had also noted, only if Archos manages to deliver a firmware that makes the Gen8 what it is supposed to be, would I ever consider buying any Archos-tablet again.
Until such time, NO WAY!
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Yeah, but what's the point of that. If you're gonna buy a new Gen9, what does it matter what happens to the Gen8? It's not like Archos promised Gingerbread for the Gen8 and then pulled the rug out from under us.
In anycase, We'll definitely get Gingerbread for Gen9. And I think Googs is pushing manufacturers to provide at least 18 months of updates for Android devices. I know Archos isn't part of that consortium, but I think that bodes well for upgrades.
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The fact that android needs at least 512meg of RAM to run is sickening. I can run a full blown Linux OS with 128meg.
~Jeff
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Recommendations are requirements are not the same, as you know. The emulator only uses about 80 megs for Honeycomb. I think it's more the third party apps that cause the increase than the OS itself.
The point is that the Gen 8 tabs were riddled with problems: broken USB, wifi issues, battery charging issues, blue tooth and tethering problems, etc.
They may be able to deliver a gen 9 tab with Honeycomb which might likely include a boat load of problems. Also it has been noted that Archos still must get Google certification for its Gen 9 tabs to have access to Google Market, if the wait for certification is anything like for Gen 8, then Gen 9's will never get Google certified