Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OR Wait for Tegra Three devices?
I would also allow for you to suggest other devices but please only android and please only 10 inch tablets.
Also the new tegra three devices might not be as thin or good-looking as the samsung which i really care about.
The only reason i like tegra is because of the support it has in the android app developing community so please try to keep the suggestions to tegra devices unless you have a good reason to contradict it.
This is simple for me.
If you can wait, wait.
If not go for it.
I couldn't wait
If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol. When Tegra 3 devices come out, Tegra 4 will be announced. I passed on the galaxy tab to wait for a tegra 2 device and now I hear nvidias "Kal-El" quad core. **** it! I'm going for the Gtab!
lol might as well buy the Samsung now and then sell it once the new one you like comes out. But its true, do you really want to keep waiting? Not I, I'm jumping on June 8th.
Personally I would get one now. You can play the waiting game and never get one as there is always a better one around the corner. You can of course wait but I suspect that you won’t see many better or 4 core tablets announced until CES 2012 next year.
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If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol.
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No, if you can wait, it means.... you can wait! I don't know about the rest of you, but I've lived my life just fine without a table. It will be a cool toy to have, but I don't NEED one. Tech gadgets are always progressing, but the tablet market is currently moving at a very fast pace. Tegra 3 is supposed to be out later this year, and is supposed to be 5x the performance. That's a much more significant performance/time ratio than other more "mature" tech products. If you can wait, then there's certainly something to be said for jumping on when the curve flattens out a little. What I do will depend a lot on pricing.
i think it's worth waiting... tegra3 pre production chips allready shipped to manyfacturers, mass production starts around august. motorola and probably asus will be releasing products short after ( promising releases before back-to-school time )
this means that you can, in theory, own a quad core beast in within 3 to 4 months months...
and they are realy fast, throw your pc and your mediaplayers out of the window and start using your tablet instead
perhaps you can invest in a program like best buy's buy back program, so when something new comes out, you can trade in your old and get the new for cheap
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
Take Samsung for example, think of the time and money that has been spent building and promoting their new tablets around the world. I really don't see them coming out with any new tablets at the end of the year even if they had the new teleology. they first need to make a profit.
dan0814 said:
If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
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Asus, Motorola, and Amazon (and probably others) are all rumored to have Tegra 3 tablets by the end of the year. You can't make much money off of the products you currently have on the market if they are obsoleted by new products your competitors are offering.
I'm going to revise my initial answer.
If you're asking the question "Should I wait?". You should wait.
After the iPad released last year, I started trying to imagine, what exactly I would use a tablet for. Once I was a bit settled on what I wanted to do with it, I started looking for something that would match my needs.
When the 10.1v was announced I realised it was a match and I eagerly went after it.
Maybe you should wait until you are certain that the tablet you are buying is a match for your requirements.
I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-light
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
-brilliant batery (i charge it each night but it only gets down to 30-50% after full day of use)
-netbook replacment (people will argue this but i haven't found a netbook more fun then this, and you can put debian on it )
-casual gaming (not sure of anything on the market you cannotplay onit except porley designed games that are just tiny boxs)
Things it isn't:
-high def cinema (you can run standard def fine and it looks great but if you are obsesd with 720P wait)
-ipad (yer thats a pritty good reason )
-high end device (tegra 2 is fun and all but nexus s still out performes all tegra 2 devices so if you want the bigest and best wait for qualcomm)
In conclusion if you want a great device that doesn't need to be compared to a PC (which i hate that thats were we uave goten in tablets) then go pick one up, but if your after a device that you want to luanch thermal nucular war with wait for qualcomm.
Note: bad spelling is becuase i'm dislexcic(fail i know thats wroung but cannot remember the correct spelling)
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good try with the spelling lol
50-3 said:
I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
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Ahh. You're more into the 30 pin connector then?
I'll stop short of making a crack about the shape of said connector
I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
galtom said:
Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Unfortunately no.
Related
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
I've had the same thought, but since my GF got it for me for X-mas, I'm gonna keep using it, and give it back to her when I can afford a XOOM
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kenfly said:
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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I got the tab in January and so far other than gaining root haven’t done anything else with it, the mobility factor is a big plus no question about it, but then I got the xoom on launching day and now I really like them both…so if or when you do it you will appreciate the differences.
I think the Devs have nothing to do with your decision.
I really like the form factor, but performance is an issue with my tab. and with the dev community not really huge, i feel left out of so much with all of these honeycomb tegra2 tablets coming out. I just really feel that Samsung really jumped the gun with the tab. releasing it with no hopes of any real update. Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
Maybe SGT 8.9 if released with similar specs as of the xoom. and reasonably priced
The tegra processors and Honycomb make our tab look outdated already but IMO the differences are not that big unless one expects too much from a tablet; is not going to replace our laptops yet…as for sami updating my hopes are nonexistent. I was in Germany recently when a saw the tab of a friend of mine, phone working etc I turned green . My biggest beef is with the carriers here in the US that crippled the device.
tegra 2 isnt a device without their own problem
like not able to play 720p mkv movies unless it converted on a specific format
that would be a problem to some people
and is there really a lot of app that dual core ready anyway?
afaik, for normal process, only 1 core would work unless there's a need for the 2nd core?
jumping too soon on honeycomb with limited apps wouldnt make that much of a difference either
and did you say saving up? how long? ^^
if it took months, who knows we already got honeycomb or ice cream on the way on our tab?
honeycomb, i doubt, but the next generation for smartphone definitely gonna be ported to our tab IMO
my main interest in this tab is phone capability, so unless there's another contender out there, i'm still gonna keep this one
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Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
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I'm trying to see what trickery Samsung have fooled you with here?
The 7" Tab was sold as an Android 2.2 device, with no promise of a Honeycomb update, and that's what they delivered.
We may, or may not get an official upgrade, which may be Honeycomb, or perhaps Gingerbread, but the Tab is still a very capable and useful device as is IMO. I do believe that we will at least get an unofficial Honeycomb ROM once the source code drops.
None of the upcoming tablets can replace my Tab because they are too big for my purposes, though I may end up getting a bigger tablet purely for home use.
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For me its all about size, the 10s are just to big to carry around comfortably. Might as well continue to carry my Dell mini9 laptop. I dont require much from my tab maybe thats why Im happy with the 7.
Remember no matter what you buy it has a good 6 months of obsolescence built in
I think most devs wait for the honeycomb source... no one wants a broken sdk port on an expensive device...
As soon as HC hits aosp I'll contribute developing.
And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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Agreed. The xoom may be "developer friendly" but it is way too expensive to mess around with.. the galaxy tab gets cheaper and cheaper and will attract more devs too over time.
Why are we comparing the Tab and the Xoom? Two totally different niches. Anyone buying a Tab should know what they are getting, and most that do are getting them for a reason. 7 inches, and a solid product with the full Android Market without having to push it onto the device.
I have three different 7 inch tablets right now (had a 4th, but the Dell Streak 7 is dismal) and the Galaxy Tab is BY FAR the best of the three. The NookColor is fun, and is running dual-boot Honeycomb (port from sdk) and froyo. It's overclocked to 1.1Ghz and is primarily used by my wife as an e-reader (which is what B&N intended), though she likes firing up Angry Birds, etc.
The Archos 70 Internet Tablet is running 2.2.1..and is slim and can handle just about ANY media thrown it's way. Archos is a leader in Media devices, having created the HDD portable Music player before anyone else (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos)...including Apple. It's hands down the best for watching movies. However it's flimsy and buggy...Archos sucks at support, truly. Plus, there's not much in the way of accessories for it. I had the 10.1 also...but sold it.
My Tab gets the most use...as I swap my phone's sim into it quite frequently. And it handles pretty much everything I want it to do. Out of the 3, theres no comparison as to my satisfaction.
If I wanted another 10" Tablet...and wanted Honeycomb right now, I STILL would not get the Xoom. I can afford it, but that doesn't mean I want to plunk down $800 on something obviously rushed out of production. Too many things wrong with this early adopter device.
Here's to hoping the incoming 8.9' Galaxy Tab has some of the kinks worked out...cuz I'm gonna pounce on it right away. 10.1" prolly not, the form factor just too large for my usage.
Whatever some people get, they will NEVER be satisfied
hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
kenfly said:
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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If you bought a tablet based on the dev community then you were wrong to do that in the first place. You buy something for what it is, not what it may be based on some random people messing around with roms.
I can't see how a 10" Xoom could possibly be a replacement for the 7" SGT. One you can carry around with you, use in your car, act as a backup phone, and the other is mostly a stay at home couch device. Personally I think the Xoom is a bit of a let down on things it should be better at - like playing high bitrate movies. SGT blows it away on that score. The SGT build and screen is also very high quality. As good as my iPad 1 (which I've not really touched since the SGT came along. Never mind how I've come to despise the Apple lock-in methodology...).
Honeycomb looks like it will be a great update when the bugs are ironed out, but Froyo (maybe Gingerbread soon) on the SGT currently makes more sense as the device really is closer to a phone than a tablet (and I'm personally happy that it is). Ice Cream Sandwich looks like it will be the natural OS upgrade for this device, as it will combine Honeycomb UI changes with smartphone functionality. Whether Samsung will release it for the SGT in the coming months is anyone's guess, but for now I'm rocking the Tab. For a couch device I'll see what the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is like (hopefully they'll find a fix for the video snafu), but none of the Tegra 2 SoC based tablets are wowing me at the moment.
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hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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Lol...not mine, she's become a gadget snob. Though she won't admit it, she's glad to be cutting edge. I see it when her girlfriends drool over the cool gadgets she totes around, lmao. We'll go get coffee, and she will look to see who noticed her pretty NookColor while she's reading and surfing the internets.
So you're selling a device because people aren't modding it? IMHO that's a ridiculous reason to sell this amazing piece of tech.
And im guessing one main reason is Honeycomb because, lets face it, its what everyone wants in a tablet. Then why not buy a Nook? You complain lack of development, the Nook Honeycomb port is better than anything they'll ever do with the Xoom.
Still, just my opinion. I'm keeping my Tab until it dies, then ill get another one.
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and..truly one of these days someone WILL put out an Android device that doesn't need modding! Might be 3 years from now...with 8 core cpu & AirWave connectivity (5+TB wireless connection passed through our existing electrical cables that are strung on the poles...or passed through now vacated VHF / UHF signals...yeah, I can dream BIG!)
But you will only be able to get 3g data or 2g+ voice.
With the introduction of Windows 8 yesterday and announcement of a Tegra 3 device by the end of the year, are the TF's days numbered?
I had to return my TF thanks to a touch screen failure, still want to get another one but now am having doubts.
Technology is constantly upgrading and if I keep looking over the horizon, I'll never get anything, but it seriously sounds like Tegra 3 is close to coming out. Tegra 2 is actually two year old architecture afterall. I've done this before though, waiting a year for the Adam (which ended up not being too great) then another five months for the Transformer...which is actually pretty awesome.
The biggest issue I have with the TF is its weak video capabilities.
I think the Tegra 3 will solve this (this thing looks beastly, Lost Planet 2?!) with it's quad core muscle.
The end of the year is still six months away. You'll have plenty of time to enjoy your TF. It's not like it's $1000 bucks either.
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The end of the year is still six months away. You'll have plenty of time to enjoy your TF. It's not like it's $1000 bucks either.
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$700 for a 32gb, keyboard dock combo isn't cheap either.
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I think the Tegra 3 will solve this (this thing looks beastly, Lost Planet 2?!) with it's quad core muscle.
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See the thing is, when tegra 3 comes along, there will be another processor that obliterates it. so you just gotta take the plunge and enjoy what u have for now. or wait forever, lol
Windows 8 won't be released until next year, at the earliest.
Tegra 3 is sampling this month, meaning production runs and first consumer units probably wont hit the market until december, if that.
Obselete is a very strong word that's being bastardized.
My dual Pentium 2 setup is obsolete. My Core 2 Duo chip is not.
its hard to keep up with the newest and baddest, but i say as long you pick something that will fill YOUR needs, and gives you a good usage, then your fine.
Then , when your ready to upgrade, you look into what fits your needs at that time.
so yes, the tegra can easily be obselete soon, but is honeycomb? ASus? what about XDA development? 3.1 may not be the end for the TF..
You will never win this war...
If you wait and get a Tegra 3 device, 4-5 months later you will be reading about the Tegra 4 devices coming Fall of 2012. If you like the TF and it meets your current needs then stay with it
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$700 for a 32gb, keyboard dock combo isn't cheap either.
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You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
Ravynmagi said:
You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
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That's not how we do things, have get the biggest and the baddest!
JK...that is definitely an option.
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You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
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This.
Personally i bought the TF for the tablet form.
I have a laptop, a netbook, and desktop at home.
for 700 you could easily find a netbook with more power ..
plus for me:
When the next tablet comes out, you can sell your TF (which is why you want to skin it, cover it, etc) and put that money towards the newest tab out there.
recycling!
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You will never win this war...
If you wait and get a Tegra 3 device, 4-5 months later you will be reading about the Tegra 4 devices coming Fall of 2012. If you like the TF and it meets your current needs then stay with it
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true tht
buyin electronics is a war you can't win...maybe if u have tons of cash to throw then knock urself out lol
dont worry be happy...with ur transformer
turbulent28 said:
This.
Personally i bought the TF for the tablet form.
I have a laptop, a netbook, and desktop at home.
for 700 you could easily find a netbook with more power ..
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You guys are all right, I'm taking the plunge again.
FYI - I do have a netbook/ultraportable with a lot more power. HP Dv2z that had a dual core AMD Neo X2 and Radeon with 512mb (NOT integrated). Bought it two years ago, one of the best hardware purchases I've made. The thing runs CODMW2 and SC2 no sweat. Pretty beastly for something so small.
Sorry I posted this....I was wrong.
Group hug everyone.
Now off for the hunt to find a TF.
It doesn't really matter. Right now there are only a handful of apps that make use of Tegra 2. By the time Tegra 4 comes out, there will probably be a healthy amount of Tegra 2 apps and 4 or 5 Tegra 4 apps. You are pretty much paying a big premium to play a couple of crappy games.
ASUS promised the dock would be compatible with future tablets and that alone is a smart move. I love the TF and it does what I need it to do, hardware-wise. The software is still suffering from a lot of issues but they will disappear soon. If you buy a tech device you have to be aware that the moment you turn it on it's not the newest on the market anymore.
Welcome to the world of Technology....where things are obsolete before you even take it out of the box pretty much.
Newer are not always better. Just get what you need to meet your needs and go from there. If it fulfills them keep it.
Simple as that really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o
I got mine just to play with Android programming (I am a .Net guy). For 400 bucks is worth it.
Everything is always obsolete when it gets released. Otherwise, everybody would have the same stuff fro 30 years and no company would stay in business.
weak video capabilities? I was worried about the limitations of the tegra 2 processor, however got used to transcoding my videos and it makes no sense to put a 6 or 7 gb video on a portable device. After transcoding my films they are a Max of 2 gb and normally closer to 1 gb and the quality is excellent.
Would I wait for a tegra 3 device? Nope firstly because they will probably end up being delayed so you will end up waiting months longer than you like. Plus the core capabilities will always work on the transformer - web browsing, playing music, video playback (I would always transcode my videos now to save on space), gaming, reading books and now mags with zinio. Plus you can always pop it on ebay.
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If you buy a tech device you have to be aware that the moment you turn it on it's not the newest on the market anymore.
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4D TV ??
You bought the Wrong TV sillyhead
I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
Thanks.
Are you planning on getting a different tablet now?
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Definitely, but not now. I'm probably getting something Tegra 3, which is coming out probably in a few months. Also, I'm sorta mad at Google for not releasing Honeycomb Source, which severely hinders what we can do with development. I know that it isn't the fault of the devs; hell, we still got BRD's rom, but we didn't get as much development as I thought.
Well asus seem to have released 3.1 code so im not sure it's Google's fault ?
See here
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Well asus seem to have released 3.1 code so im not sure it's Google's fault ?
See here
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That's the kernel source, which Asus have to supply as it is GPL code.
It isn't the Honeycomb source.
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I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
Thanks.
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Same here. I hated to return my Xoom but now I am trying out the Samsung Tab 10.1.
pianoplayer said:
I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
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I also really loved the Motorola Xoom, but with it not officially supporting the microSD card I exchanged it and got the SGT 10. So far I really liking the SGT 10 feel and though it doesn't have some of the features I had on the Xoom or a MicroSD card slot. I will be keeping the SGT 10 as my 10" tablet.
Im also be selling mine. Its not about motorola that im dissapointed. its honeycomb. It just seems like no dev cares about it, not even google update theyre own apps to honeycomb. The market place for honeycomb is broken since day 1. Apps that i was interested in are region locked...(books,earth,maps navigation,video).
I was happy with my android phone even with 2.1 because apps that i like worked fine.Thats why i thought buying an android tablet with the latest firmware will be my next step but i was wrong.
At first i didnt like the ipad (it just looks like a big ipod) but they have apps that works, no region lock on books, music, videos , the game library is interesting... all those things that i forgot why did i choose android.
pianoplayer said:
I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
Thanks.
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Thanks for voiding the warranty, shortening the life span and then when custom software didnt work for you, returning the product. Those of us in the retail industry really appreciate it
I have both the XOOM and the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
After using the Galaxy Tab 10.1 my appreciation for the XOOM has increased tremendously. For whatever reason, the XOOM is smoother and more responsive - significantly so. Everything about the XOOM from build quality, to SD slot (at least it has one that can be made to work) seems better to me on the XOOM. And charging times on my GTAB 10.1 are horrific. I spend more time charging it than using it.
Oh, and something a lot of people seem not to have considered: for movie playback you are locked into the 4GB limit again with the GTAB 10.1 which means you are forced to limit the bit rate of your movies to make them fit. You can use as high a bit rate as you want on the XOOM as long as you store your movie on internal storage which has no 4GB limit. This means that many of the movies that you converted for your XOOM may not be usable on the GTAB 10.1 if they exceeded 4GB and you may be forced to re-encode them.
Only major advantage with the GTAB 10.1 is the screen, and to lesser degree the weight - and honeslty, unless you're an absolute movie buff, the XOOM screen is pretty good despite all the criticism.
I think a lot of the complaining is an excuse to aquire a new toy.
No, I won't be getting the Asus or the Samsung, mostly for the same reasons as why I'm returning my Xoom. It's mainly because I'm not happy with Tegra 2 (that Samsung Exynos is pretty awesome IIRC) and that it's worth the wait of maybe 3 months.
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No, I won't be getting the Asus or the Samsung, mostly for the same reasons as why I'm returning my Xoom. It's mainly because I'm not happy with Tegra 2 (that Samsung Exynos is pretty awesome IIRC) and that it's worth the wait of maybe 3 months.
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No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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Well there isn't many other choices atm for those who want a tablet NOW. I'm thinking about selling mine for $400 around Christmas for a newer tablet. My next tablet will atleast have the ability to play any video file I throw at it without conversion.
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I also really loved the Motorola Xoom, but with it not officially supporting the microSD card I exchanged it and got the SGT 10. So far I really liking the SGT 10 feel and though it doesn't have some of the features I had on the Xoom or a MicroSD card slot. I will be keeping the SGT 10 as my 10" tablet.
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I hope you like your new tablet, but this makes no sense. How does returning a device because it doesn't have support for thesd card help if you replace it with a device that doesn't have an sd card slot?
That's kinda like cutting off your feet because your shoes don't fit.
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No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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What's so bad about tegra 2?
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What's so bad about tegra 2?
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Lack of games
Try throwing 720p anime/movies on any t2 tablet..
I have a xoom and love it but I can't turn a blind eye to the issues that it has.
I love my xoom, and it does what I expected it to do when I bought it. Does Motorola suck at software updates, yes. We all knew this from any other moto phone. That's why Google is good. Also, I have never noticed a shortage of devs on xoom. On games, well I have patience, there are more and more cool games released every day. The screen, well it is not perfect, but capable, same as the tegra chip.
So in short, I see how some may be disappointed, but in all reality, they shouldn't be. (unless they were not very smart and bought a 4g tablet, then you have every right to be disappointed about the lack of an upgrade)
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gotta return mines by July 11th, really gonna miss it and the developers have been the only reason i kept it this long. I'm sure their strong work is the reason many have held on to the Xoom.
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Lack of games
Try throwing 720p anime/movies on any t2 tablet..
I have a xoom and love it but I can't turn a blind eye to the issues that it has.
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Honeycomb is a new os and needs time to gain alot of apps aand games.
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The only valid argument in this thread about returning a xoom is the lack of support for other country with many google service, and this is not google fault it's company who are enforcing drm to the limit.
As for the sd issue, it will get fixed soon, I can understand an early adopter to be pissed off but if he managed to wait until now it's a matter of week now.
out of topic but I have a panasonic blue ray that have netflix installed, but it doesn't work in my country, can you believe this...
The screen on my unit is quite nice, not sure why some people complain.. so far I am happy with the xoom so I keep it, I have a 3 month return windows with costco, I will evaluate my option by then but so far it's a keeper!
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I think technology is moving way to fast I've barley had my xoom since June
im not getting the next XOOM 2 or w/e. getting different brand to much bs from moto such as promised lte, no skype video (big for me), and no sd card support until now which is half ass. I love my XOOM but damn u moto
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Not mad. Just because a newer version came out, it's not like it changes how the current model performs. The best part is I'm sure developers will steal some of the new stuff and add it to our rooms.
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I like the angular appearance. It lends a masculine look, which goes well with the Droid (as in "robotic") motif. There's nothing wrong with being sleek and smooth, but the iPad has already cornered the market with that.
Otherwise, the selling hook with this, as well as most of the tabs coming out next month, will be ICS. My bet is the new SoC, whatever it is, will be able to handle 1080p HP, which is a sore point for the Teg2. Hardware + software improvements = compelling upgrade. I think most early adopters will jump (again), if not for this, then for another ICS tab.
Seems to be about the right time tables for a new release. They haven't officially said anything, so the assumption I have is that it is still a little while off on the horizon...
Dispatched at the Speed of Light from my XOOM
So,companies make a product and keep it short of features like full hd playback so that there are customers for 2nd,3rd version.
All these rumor threads do is make me feel even more assraped by Motorola and Google.
I love my Xoom, and still have hope that once the SC is released, it will become even 25% better than it already is.
i love my xoom but im done with moto products...
What if its a brother tablet like the Samsung series
Wowwwww nothing but a 1.2 dual core and can record 1080p.....I can overclock to 1.2 and hack to record 1080
No I am not mad and I just got my Xoom like 3 weeks ago.
Tablets are just like cell phones in the aspect of how quickly they are updated for newer models. One would go nuts at all of the updates and if we waited for each one to buy we would buy them every six months.
Also it looks like there is no SD card slot according to them. PASS - no thanks.
Ill enjoy my Xoom for a year or so. Then Ill see what is shakin by then. Maybe it will be a quad core supertablet that can teleport us through time.
UPDATE : http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/24/...dition-8-2-inch-ips-display-pound-ir-blaster/
It will be 8.2 HD screen it will be a portrait form factor and be called xoom 2 media edition
Would you get mad every time HP released a new laptop?
Xoom still does everything I need and will for a long time.
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im not getting the next XOOM 2 or w/e. getting different brand to much bs from moto such as promised lte, no skype video (big for me), and no sd card support until now which is half ass. I love my XOOM but damn u moto
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So if the Skype-developers say that they not support the Tegra2 yet, how is that Moto's fault? Skype develops Skype (or MS for that matter), not Moto.
According to TIMN, apparently there'll be at least two Xoom2 tabs, a 10" and a 8.2", and reportedly a smaller one yet.
Sounds like the new gen models have corrected the main shortcomings of the old--IPS screen, thin, light. I'm curious, though, since the mentioned new features ("Media Edition", IR, etc) are all consumer-oriented, and CEO dude had said that enterprise was the target.
Looking forward to see pricing. My guess is $400 for the 8.2, assuming consumer model, $450-ish for the 10.
Am also excited to hear B&N rumors of two NookC follow-ups. It's getting to the fun time of the year, with new toys popping up. The anticipation is even better than the real thing! Heh.
Talk of stylus option could mean digitized display interface like Thinkpad Tablet maybe?
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8.2 lol...1.2ghz rofl.....record in 1080p lmao...this is a joke & Motorola should be ashamed of this succesor to the Xoom..what a freaking joke...Thank god for Asus they got it right.In October they'll be releasing a tablet that will blow the Xoom 2 out the water.."Grab it & it grabs you" rofl...They ain't tricking me again..my money is going to Asus this time.
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So if the Skype-developers say that they not support the Tegra2 yet, how is that Moto's fault? Skype develops Skype (or MS for that matter), not Moto.
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yea but y use some tech that doesn't get supported by popular applications. I mean great it has tegra 2 but tell me wat benefits have we received so far? gaming?? ehhh not really. idk I should've studied b4 I jumped. no more tegra device for me tho.
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8.2 lol...1.2ghz rofl.....record in 1080p lmao...this is a joke & Motorola should be ashamed of this succesor to the Xoom..what a freaking joke...Thank god for Asus they got it right.In October they'll be releasing a tablet that will blow the Xoom 2 out the water.."Grab it & it grabs you" rofl...They ain't tricking me again..my money is going to Asus this time.
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It's not a joke. This is what sounds like is going to be the Media Center edition which will be the 8 inch version. It looks to me like it will be competing directly with Amazon's new Kindle tablet as a smaller yet powerful light weight device that can be held with one hand without a problem. It's smart to make two versions, just in case someone didn't want all that power, but would favor portability more so.
The regular 10 inch Xoom 2 will most likely be sporting the usual: beefed up specs all around, as well as a lighter weight. I don't know if I'm getting the Xoom 2. It all depends on the specs for me. I'm good where I'm at for the time being.
Personally, I will stick with Motorola through and through. I don't see why people flip out about them. I love the Droid's, because they rule. Verizon rules the air with 4G LTE. Imma stay with both of them all the way! Still sportin' an OG Droid.
Oh OK so they will be making a 10 inch version still that I heard about earlier this year. OK I was upset at 1st only because I don't won't anything smaller than what I have now.Asus still looks good as I'm sure they'll have a better screen than the XOOM but I could be wrong but I think Motorola is going to use the same screen as before??
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Hey guys, the Prime specs have just been released, is anyone contemplating getting the Prime? Asus has so far has a good track record with updates and also the Prime is going to be getting ICS. Will you be keeping your Xoom? Or will you be trading it in for the new quad-core tablet? I love my Xoom and it will only get better with the ICS update and the source released so the devs will truly be able to do their magic but, the Prime looks pretty good and its tempting seeing as it lines up with Christmas.
Link for the specs.
I personally will be holding onto the Xoom until further notice. The Prime is only the first of many quad core tablets lined up for release, like how the Xoom was for Honeycomb. I am a hardcore Droid fan since the launch of the OG Droid, thus I will get a quad core tablet when Motorola launches theirs. I have been waiting very patiently for a quad core tablet since late last year, and I can hold out awhile longer knowing the great ones are on their way.
As tempting as the Prime is, I can control the urge to buy. The Xoom can be overclocked quite high without terrible loss in battery life, and it zips along with great speed. No worries for me!
I need Verizon LTE so no upgrade for me until a quad core LTE table launches.
Holding out for something better. I want to see more ram in the two to four GB range and a higher definition screen .
these arguments are exactly what is kind of preventing me from getting a prime. Also the fact that development will be slow and that the full potential of the prime may not be unlocked until other tabs pop up later... Also in the games arena, tegra3 dedicated games may not come out for a while if at all? so just cuz you have a quad core, you may still only get the same user defined power as our xoom (not sure on that this is my own assumption at present)
Well it looks like my xoom is going to be like my alienware m9700. Old as dust and still kicking butt! I just don't see enough of a performance jump in the tegra 3. Shadowgun plays just as smooth on the xoom, so do videos. I want to see a tablet that supports USB burners, hdd, printers, and everything else my laptop does. Without a damn keyboard!!! I can do everything with my xoom except burn dvd's.
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i'll use my Xoom until it can't perform as good as I need it too..
I am not doing anything massive with my Xoom so I imagine it will be kicking along until Android x.x won't install on it anymore.
I'm finding it hard to resist the Prime tbh. I'm a bit of a gadget freak and I really like the look of the Prime. That said, I'm sure my Mrs would go ballistic if I bought another tablet before I'd had the Xoom even a year...!
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... I'm sure my Mrs would go ballistic if I bought another tablet before I'd had the Xoom even a year...!
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I'd go ballistic, if I had to justify what I spend my money on
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Well, I never liked Asus-products' look and feel (lol @ the transformer) and I can't think of a real benefit right NOW. So I'll wait for something "better" ...
NO LTE, no Tablet for me
I love the specs on the Prime. It's like a Xoom only better in just about every way (not to say that I don't already love my Xoom) but until they make a LTE version I won't be buying. I am not going to hassle with Tethering or have to wait until I have Wi-Fi. When I really use my tablet is when I am not at home or not at work and often traveling.
I would love the faster Browsing speed though, Quad Core with LTE = kick butt browsing.
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The Asus Prime is very competitively priced. It's actually the same price as the first TF 32GB when it was announced, and it'll probably be lower than the Xoom2 10" at 32GB. A little surprising for Asus, who were positioning themselves as a premium brand. Then again, it's hard to buck the $500 ceiling set by the iPad.
Nice to see the price competition. Although personally I'm not a fan of the hybrid package, and the Prime's ergonomics is wanting. But it looks great, which is what matters.
I'd like to see performance benchmarks vs OMAP4, and also the rooting issue. Some of the Asus TF B70 stepping models (going back since August) still haven't been rooted.
>I would love the faster Browsing speed though, Quad Core with LTE = kick butt browsing.
If you need a quad to web browse, then the problem is the OS & software, which for Android at the moment is still kind of true.
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The Asus Prime is very competitively priced. It's actually the same price as the first TF 32GB when it was announced, and it'll probably be lower than the Xoom2 10" at 32GB. A little surprising for Asus, who were positioning themselves as a premium brand. Then again, it's hard to buck the $500 ceiling set by the iPad.
Nice to see the price competition. Although personally I'm not a fan of the hybrid package, and the Prime's ergonomics is wanting. But it looks great, which is what matters.
I'd like to see performance benchmarks vs OMAP4, and also the rooting issue. Some of the Asus TF B70 stepping models (going back since August) still haven't been rooted.
>I would love the faster Browsing speed though, Quad Core with LTE = kick butt browsing.
If you need a quad to web browse, then the problem is the OS & software, which for Android at the moment is still kind of true.
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This is so true, a single core @ 1ghz should be more than enough for basic trivial tasks.
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Hey guys, the Prime specs have just been released, is anyone contemplating getting the Prime? Asus has so far has a good track record with updates and also the Prime is going to be getting ICS. Will you be keeping your Xoom? Or will you be trading it in for the new quad-core tablet? I love my Xoom and it will only get better with the ICS update and the source released so the devs will truly be able to do their magic but, the Prime looks pretty good and its tempting seeing as it lines up with Christmas.
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I'm thinking about giving the Xoom to my daughter or wife and getting the Prime.
The Xoom 2 looks a little uninteresting ....
(it's not about the quad-core, I rarely need duo-core)
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I'm thinking about giving the Xoom to my daughter or wife and getting the Prime.
The Xoom 2 looks a little uninteresting ....
(it's not about the quad-core, I rarely need duo-core)
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Hey, that's a good idea. The Mrs might not be so angry if I give her the Xoom. Although... just thinking here... she'll probably make the argument that she should have the lighter of the two. Hmm. This will require some thought.
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Hey, that's a good idea. The Mrs might not be so angry if I give her the Xoom. Although... just thinking here... she'll probably make the argument that she should have the lighter of the two. Hmm. This will require some thought.
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Lol think again...wives are pissed when they get the hand me down and you get the hot new ****! She will want to know why she doesn't get the new tablet since you already have the Xoom!
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Lol think again...wives are pissed when they get the hand me down and you get the hot new ****! She will want to know why she doesn't get the new tablet since you already have the Xoom!
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Simple answer though... because I'm paying for it.
Now... whether that would work...?
I about to sell my xoom, and waiting for Prime. But then, i -rethinking that i bought my xoom for $530.If i want sell it now, i would lose around $200. It's not worth. So i guess i keep my xoom, waiting for ICS. And i'll buy a new Window 8 tablet.
I hope Tegra 3 can play any video you throw at it without the need to convert. It may be worth to upgrade to one if I have the money to do so.
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Lol think again...wives are pissed when they get the hand me down and you get the hot new ****! She will want to know why she doesn't get the new tablet since you already have the Xoom!
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My wife is always quite happy to get my tech hand me downs. Especially since they're usually about 6 months old and like new.
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I hope Tegra 3 can play any video you throw at it without the need to convert. It may be worth to upgrade to one if I have the money to do so.
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That's one of the reasons I'm considering the Prime.
I assume you're talking about hi-res and not just file format? MX Player Pro's codec package will play about any file format on my Xoom without the need to convert.
But the Xoom doesn't have enough power to play hi-res MOV's. Maybe the Tegra 3 will .... we'll see.
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I hope Tegra 3 can play any video you throw at it without the need to convert. It may be worth to upgrade to one if I have the money to do so.
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Have you tried Dice Player? I just watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes in high Res 720p without any problems.
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