I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
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Are you planning on getting a different tablet now?
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Definitely, but not now. I'm probably getting something Tegra 3, which is coming out probably in a few months. Also, I'm sorta mad at Google for not releasing Honeycomb Source, which severely hinders what we can do with development. I know that it isn't the fault of the devs; hell, we still got BRD's rom, but we didn't get as much development as I thought.
Well asus seem to have released 3.1 code so im not sure it's Google's fault ?
See here
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Well asus seem to have released 3.1 code so im not sure it's Google's fault ?
See here
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That's the kernel source, which Asus have to supply as it is GPL code.
It isn't the Honeycomb source.
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pianoplayer said:
I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
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Same here. I hated to return my Xoom but now I am trying out the Samsung Tab 10.1.
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I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
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I also really loved the Motorola Xoom, but with it not officially supporting the microSD card I exchanged it and got the SGT 10. So far I really liking the SGT 10 feel and though it doesn't have some of the features I had on the Xoom or a MicroSD card slot. I will be keeping the SGT 10 as my 10" tablet.
Im also be selling mine. Its not about motorola that im dissapointed. its honeycomb. It just seems like no dev cares about it, not even google update theyre own apps to honeycomb. The market place for honeycomb is broken since day 1. Apps that i was interested in are region locked...(books,earth,maps navigation,video).
I was happy with my android phone even with 2.1 because apps that i like worked fine.Thats why i thought buying an android tablet with the latest firmware will be my next step but i was wrong.
At first i didnt like the ipad (it just looks like a big ipod) but they have apps that works, no region lock on books, music, videos , the game library is interesting... all those things that i forgot why did i choose android.
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I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
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Thanks for voiding the warranty, shortening the life span and then when custom software didnt work for you, returning the product. Those of us in the retail industry really appreciate it
I have both the XOOM and the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
After using the Galaxy Tab 10.1 my appreciation for the XOOM has increased tremendously. For whatever reason, the XOOM is smoother and more responsive - significantly so. Everything about the XOOM from build quality, to SD slot (at least it has one that can be made to work) seems better to me on the XOOM. And charging times on my GTAB 10.1 are horrific. I spend more time charging it than using it.
Oh, and something a lot of people seem not to have considered: for movie playback you are locked into the 4GB limit again with the GTAB 10.1 which means you are forced to limit the bit rate of your movies to make them fit. You can use as high a bit rate as you want on the XOOM as long as you store your movie on internal storage which has no 4GB limit. This means that many of the movies that you converted for your XOOM may not be usable on the GTAB 10.1 if they exceeded 4GB and you may be forced to re-encode them.
Only major advantage with the GTAB 10.1 is the screen, and to lesser degree the weight - and honeslty, unless you're an absolute movie buff, the XOOM screen is pretty good despite all the criticism.
I think a lot of the complaining is an excuse to aquire a new toy.
No, I won't be getting the Asus or the Samsung, mostly for the same reasons as why I'm returning my Xoom. It's mainly because I'm not happy with Tegra 2 (that Samsung Exynos is pretty awesome IIRC) and that it's worth the wait of maybe 3 months.
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No, I won't be getting the Asus or the Samsung, mostly for the same reasons as why I'm returning my Xoom. It's mainly because I'm not happy with Tegra 2 (that Samsung Exynos is pretty awesome IIRC) and that it's worth the wait of maybe 3 months.
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No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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Well there isn't many other choices atm for those who want a tablet NOW. I'm thinking about selling mine for $400 around Christmas for a newer tablet. My next tablet will atleast have the ability to play any video file I throw at it without conversion.
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I also really loved the Motorola Xoom, but with it not officially supporting the microSD card I exchanged it and got the SGT 10. So far I really liking the SGT 10 feel and though it doesn't have some of the features I had on the Xoom or a MicroSD card slot. I will be keeping the SGT 10 as my 10" tablet.
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I hope you like your new tablet, but this makes no sense. How does returning a device because it doesn't have support for thesd card help if you replace it with a device that doesn't have an sd card slot?
That's kinda like cutting off your feet because your shoes don't fit.
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No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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What's so bad about tegra 2?
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What's so bad about tegra 2?
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Lack of games
Try throwing 720p anime/movies on any t2 tablet..
I have a xoom and love it but I can't turn a blind eye to the issues that it has.
I love my xoom, and it does what I expected it to do when I bought it. Does Motorola suck at software updates, yes. We all knew this from any other moto phone. That's why Google is good. Also, I have never noticed a shortage of devs on xoom. On games, well I have patience, there are more and more cool games released every day. The screen, well it is not perfect, but capable, same as the tegra chip.
So in short, I see how some may be disappointed, but in all reality, they shouldn't be. (unless they were not very smart and bought a 4g tablet, then you have every right to be disappointed about the lack of an upgrade)
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gotta return mines by July 11th, really gonna miss it and the developers have been the only reason i kept it this long. I'm sure their strong work is the reason many have held on to the Xoom.
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Lack of games
Try throwing 720p anime/movies on any t2 tablet..
I have a xoom and love it but I can't turn a blind eye to the issues that it has.
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Honeycomb is a new os and needs time to gain alot of apps aand games.
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The only valid argument in this thread about returning a xoom is the lack of support for other country with many google service, and this is not google fault it's company who are enforcing drm to the limit.
As for the sd issue, it will get fixed soon, I can understand an early adopter to be pissed off but if he managed to wait until now it's a matter of week now.
out of topic but I have a panasonic blue ray that have netflix installed, but it doesn't work in my country, can you believe this...
The screen on my unit is quite nice, not sure why some people complain.. so far I am happy with the xoom so I keep it, I have a 3 month return windows with costco, I will evaluate my option by then but so far it's a keeper!
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
I've had the same thought, but since my GF got it for me for X-mas, I'm gonna keep using it, and give it back to her when I can afford a XOOM
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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I got the tab in January and so far other than gaining root haven’t done anything else with it, the mobility factor is a big plus no question about it, but then I got the xoom on launching day and now I really like them both…so if or when you do it you will appreciate the differences.
I think the Devs have nothing to do with your decision.
I really like the form factor, but performance is an issue with my tab. and with the dev community not really huge, i feel left out of so much with all of these honeycomb tegra2 tablets coming out. I just really feel that Samsung really jumped the gun with the tab. releasing it with no hopes of any real update. Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
Maybe SGT 8.9 if released with similar specs as of the xoom. and reasonably priced
The tegra processors and Honycomb make our tab look outdated already but IMO the differences are not that big unless one expects too much from a tablet; is not going to replace our laptops yet…as for sami updating my hopes are nonexistent. I was in Germany recently when a saw the tab of a friend of mine, phone working etc I turned green . My biggest beef is with the carriers here in the US that crippled the device.
tegra 2 isnt a device without their own problem
like not able to play 720p mkv movies unless it converted on a specific format
that would be a problem to some people
and is there really a lot of app that dual core ready anyway?
afaik, for normal process, only 1 core would work unless there's a need for the 2nd core?
jumping too soon on honeycomb with limited apps wouldnt make that much of a difference either
and did you say saving up? how long? ^^
if it took months, who knows we already got honeycomb or ice cream on the way on our tab?
honeycomb, i doubt, but the next generation for smartphone definitely gonna be ported to our tab IMO
my main interest in this tab is phone capability, so unless there's another contender out there, i'm still gonna keep this one
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Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
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I'm trying to see what trickery Samsung have fooled you with here?
The 7" Tab was sold as an Android 2.2 device, with no promise of a Honeycomb update, and that's what they delivered.
We may, or may not get an official upgrade, which may be Honeycomb, or perhaps Gingerbread, but the Tab is still a very capable and useful device as is IMO. I do believe that we will at least get an unofficial Honeycomb ROM once the source code drops.
None of the upcoming tablets can replace my Tab because they are too big for my purposes, though I may end up getting a bigger tablet purely for home use.
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For me its all about size, the 10s are just to big to carry around comfortably. Might as well continue to carry my Dell mini9 laptop. I dont require much from my tab maybe thats why Im happy with the 7.
Remember no matter what you buy it has a good 6 months of obsolescence built in
I think most devs wait for the honeycomb source... no one wants a broken sdk port on an expensive device...
As soon as HC hits aosp I'll contribute developing.
And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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Agreed. The xoom may be "developer friendly" but it is way too expensive to mess around with.. the galaxy tab gets cheaper and cheaper and will attract more devs too over time.
Why are we comparing the Tab and the Xoom? Two totally different niches. Anyone buying a Tab should know what they are getting, and most that do are getting them for a reason. 7 inches, and a solid product with the full Android Market without having to push it onto the device.
I have three different 7 inch tablets right now (had a 4th, but the Dell Streak 7 is dismal) and the Galaxy Tab is BY FAR the best of the three. The NookColor is fun, and is running dual-boot Honeycomb (port from sdk) and froyo. It's overclocked to 1.1Ghz and is primarily used by my wife as an e-reader (which is what B&N intended), though she likes firing up Angry Birds, etc.
The Archos 70 Internet Tablet is running 2.2.1..and is slim and can handle just about ANY media thrown it's way. Archos is a leader in Media devices, having created the HDD portable Music player before anyone else (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos)...including Apple. It's hands down the best for watching movies. However it's flimsy and buggy...Archos sucks at support, truly. Plus, there's not much in the way of accessories for it. I had the 10.1 also...but sold it.
My Tab gets the most use...as I swap my phone's sim into it quite frequently. And it handles pretty much everything I want it to do. Out of the 3, theres no comparison as to my satisfaction.
If I wanted another 10" Tablet...and wanted Honeycomb right now, I STILL would not get the Xoom. I can afford it, but that doesn't mean I want to plunk down $800 on something obviously rushed out of production. Too many things wrong with this early adopter device.
Here's to hoping the incoming 8.9' Galaxy Tab has some of the kinks worked out...cuz I'm gonna pounce on it right away. 10.1" prolly not, the form factor just too large for my usage.
Whatever some people get, they will NEVER be satisfied
hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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If you bought a tablet based on the dev community then you were wrong to do that in the first place. You buy something for what it is, not what it may be based on some random people messing around with roms.
I can't see how a 10" Xoom could possibly be a replacement for the 7" SGT. One you can carry around with you, use in your car, act as a backup phone, and the other is mostly a stay at home couch device. Personally I think the Xoom is a bit of a let down on things it should be better at - like playing high bitrate movies. SGT blows it away on that score. The SGT build and screen is also very high quality. As good as my iPad 1 (which I've not really touched since the SGT came along. Never mind how I've come to despise the Apple lock-in methodology...).
Honeycomb looks like it will be a great update when the bugs are ironed out, but Froyo (maybe Gingerbread soon) on the SGT currently makes more sense as the device really is closer to a phone than a tablet (and I'm personally happy that it is). Ice Cream Sandwich looks like it will be the natural OS upgrade for this device, as it will combine Honeycomb UI changes with smartphone functionality. Whether Samsung will release it for the SGT in the coming months is anyone's guess, but for now I'm rocking the Tab. For a couch device I'll see what the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is like (hopefully they'll find a fix for the video snafu), but none of the Tegra 2 SoC based tablets are wowing me at the moment.
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hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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Lol...not mine, she's become a gadget snob. Though she won't admit it, she's glad to be cutting edge. I see it when her girlfriends drool over the cool gadgets she totes around, lmao. We'll go get coffee, and she will look to see who noticed her pretty NookColor while she's reading and surfing the internets.
So you're selling a device because people aren't modding it? IMHO that's a ridiculous reason to sell this amazing piece of tech.
And im guessing one main reason is Honeycomb because, lets face it, its what everyone wants in a tablet. Then why not buy a Nook? You complain lack of development, the Nook Honeycomb port is better than anything they'll ever do with the Xoom.
Still, just my opinion. I'm keeping my Tab until it dies, then ill get another one.
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and..truly one of these days someone WILL put out an Android device that doesn't need modding! Might be 3 years from now...with 8 core cpu & AirWave connectivity (5+TB wireless connection passed through our existing electrical cables that are strung on the poles...or passed through now vacated VHF / UHF signals...yeah, I can dream BIG!)
But you will only be able to get 3g data or 2g+ voice.
Well, you probably heard by now...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-launching-in-about-a-month-google-giv/
... and if this is any indication of developer support for custom ROMs, than I think I'm going to have to defect to the Galaxy Tab over the Transformer. The same thing happened when the HTC EVO 4G was given away. Some were immediately sold on eBay, while those that kept them built amazing ROMs, apps, etc before the device was even out. It has by far the most active development community behind it, even over the Nexus line. I feel a similar trend coming for the Galaxy Tab... not the Xoom, and especially not the Transformer.
I feel Asus is really going to lose a lot of sales when the Galaxy Tab is released. Something they could have avoided by having more upfront stock, or releasing the TF earlier. Oh well, hopefully they'll learn from this mistake.
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Well, you probably heard by now...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-launching-in-about-a-month-google-giv/
... and if this is any indication of developer support for custom ROMs, than I think I'm going to have to defect to the Galaxy Tab over the Transformer. The same thing happened when the HTC EVO 4G was given away. Some were immediately sold on eBay, while those that kept them built amazing ROMs, apps, etc before the device was even out. It has by far the most active development community behind it, even over the Nexus line. I feel a similar trend coming for the Galaxy Tab... not the Xoom, and especially not the Transformer.
I feel Asus is really going to lose a lot of sales when the Galaxy Tab is released. Something they could have avoided by having more upfront stock, or releasing the TF earlier. Oh well, hopefully they'll learn from this mistake.
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When you follow the Xoom threads they mostly hate the Samsung devices because they will get updates every blue moon or so. Maybe Samsung will win the battle but as long as the Transformer get some attention I don't care. I personally don't need 100s of ROMs. It's always the same with technology - the moment you buy it it's obsolete and something fancier is released.
Yea, that is my feeling as well...
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I think this is good for tablet app development. At the moment, that dearth of tablet apps is pulling down HC.
I couldn't care less if Samsung gets better custom ROM's.
Now I can find out if it has Tegra 2 or Exynos.
dying to find out myself too. I am jumping ship if Exynos and supports high profile 720p.
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dying to find out myself too. I am jumping ship if Exynos and supports high profile 720p.
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Well the Transformer supports High Profile 720p, its just Honeycomb doesn't support Tegra 2's hardware decoding properly yet.
On eBay all ready and over $1000 in a matter of minutes !
http://cgi.ebay.com/Galaxy-Tab-10-1...=US_Tablets&hash=item27bae98b3b#ht_500wt_1182
I just found a dead pixel on my TF and coupled with the creaky chasis I'm thinking about returning it.. Tomorrow is my last day to decide.
I just figure, if I dont like Samsung's offering, it will be much easier at that time to get myself a TF. But I love the TF! ahhh this sucks
This makes me even madder that I could not get through the I/O registration process because the servers could not handle the load. Silly servers cost me a free tablet!!!
I am 5 miles away, maybe I should drive by and see if some extra tablets are lying around Moscone
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I just found a dead pixel on my TF and coupled with the creaky chasis I'm thinking about returning it.. Tomorrow is my last day to decide.
I just figure, if I dont like Samsung's offering, it will be much easier at that time to get myself a TF. But I love the TF! ahhh this sucks
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Samsung will likely cost a lot more ?
I didn't keep my Transformer and I do somewhat miss it, with 3.1 coming.
The keyboard lag on forums was driving me crazy, couple that with HD video issues.
Seen lag on both keyboards.
I'll get a Samsung to move on, but hope it or 3.1 solves HC issues.
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I just found a dead pixel on my TF and coupled with the creaky chasis I'm thinking about returning it.. Tomorrow is my last day to decide.
I just figure, if I dont like Samsung's offering, it will be much easier at that time to get myself a TF. But I love the TF! ahhh this sucks
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I had a couple dead pixels and a skewed off center screen. I sent my TF back for a replacement. Waiting for stock.
I was thinking about the Samsung but it isn't as feature full as TF and I don't know what the cost will be, will it be wifi only at launch or just 3/4G...
Seeing Samsung listed as a partner in the timely updates slide made me really start thinking though. Not sure what to expect from Asus, it's too early to tell but I can already tell there are quality control issues.
To be honest, there is just no pleasing some people. Ya'll will never be happy with any tablet/cell/puter, lol.
If you mean the people sending back their Transformers because of manufacturing defects / poor quality control, that's crap.
I'm not going to be satisfied spending hundreds of dollars on something that is defective.
Thankfully, besides woefully needing updates and having a useless dock my Transformer has been working pretty well.
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Well the Transformer supports High Profile 720p, its just Honeycomb doesn't support Tegra 2's hardware decoding properly yet.
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Source please?
It ain't Honeycomb. It's the Tegra 2. When will people stop making this excuse that it is Honeycomb.
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Source please?
It ain't Honeycomb. It's the Tegra 2. When will people stop making this excuse that it is Honeycomb.
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Another thing I don't understand is why people are so fixated on the high profile issue... As the poster above stated - there's no pleasing people *sigh*
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Another thing I don't understand is why people are so fixated on the high profile issue... As the poster above stated - there's no pleasing people *sigh*
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A lot of people are fixated on the high profile issue because:
*they just spent $400 on it
*don't want to spend hours upon hours re-encoding the their movies again
*can store more movies since file size are reduce
*because at the moment tablets are mainly used for media consumption and web browsing
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A lot of people are fixated on the high profile issue because:
*they just spent $400 on it
*don't want to spend hours upon hours re-encoding the their movies again
*can store more movies since file size are reduce
*because at the moment tablets are mainly used for media consumption and web browsing
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But this has been a known issue since the XOOM came out! If people don't do their research before then they shouldn't bash the product.
I also had to re-encode all of my movies because the digital copies and DVD/Blu-Ray rips that I had were low res for my iPod classic. Sucks but it is what it is! If you get programs that have batch capabilities then it's a matter of starting it and it will do the rest on its own. However, I can't argue about the file size... only excuse is that storage is so cheap nowadays
I agree. People should have done more research before buying the Transformer if they were looking for the "perfect tablet". Next they'll be complaining how they can't use a USB hard drive without buying a dock. Oh wait.
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I agree. People should have done more research before buying the Transformer if they were looking for the "perfect tablet".
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I don't think there is such a thing as the "perfect tablet" at the moment. It's a fairly new mass phenomenon so give it time!
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OR Wait for Tegra Three devices?
I would also allow for you to suggest other devices but please only android and please only 10 inch tablets.
Also the new tegra three devices might not be as thin or good-looking as the samsung which i really care about.
The only reason i like tegra is because of the support it has in the android app developing community so please try to keep the suggestions to tegra devices unless you have a good reason to contradict it.
This is simple for me.
If you can wait, wait.
If not go for it.
I couldn't wait
If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol. When Tegra 3 devices come out, Tegra 4 will be announced. I passed on the galaxy tab to wait for a tegra 2 device and now I hear nvidias "Kal-El" quad core. **** it! I'm going for the Gtab!
lol might as well buy the Samsung now and then sell it once the new one you like comes out. But its true, do you really want to keep waiting? Not I, I'm jumping on June 8th.
Personally I would get one now. You can play the waiting game and never get one as there is always a better one around the corner. You can of course wait but I suspect that you won’t see many better or 4 core tablets announced until CES 2012 next year.
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If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol.
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No, if you can wait, it means.... you can wait! I don't know about the rest of you, but I've lived my life just fine without a table. It will be a cool toy to have, but I don't NEED one. Tech gadgets are always progressing, but the tablet market is currently moving at a very fast pace. Tegra 3 is supposed to be out later this year, and is supposed to be 5x the performance. That's a much more significant performance/time ratio than other more "mature" tech products. If you can wait, then there's certainly something to be said for jumping on when the curve flattens out a little. What I do will depend a lot on pricing.
i think it's worth waiting... tegra3 pre production chips allready shipped to manyfacturers, mass production starts around august. motorola and probably asus will be releasing products short after ( promising releases before back-to-school time )
this means that you can, in theory, own a quad core beast in within 3 to 4 months months...
and they are realy fast, throw your pc and your mediaplayers out of the window and start using your tablet instead
perhaps you can invest in a program like best buy's buy back program, so when something new comes out, you can trade in your old and get the new for cheap
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
Take Samsung for example, think of the time and money that has been spent building and promoting their new tablets around the world. I really don't see them coming out with any new tablets at the end of the year even if they had the new teleology. they first need to make a profit.
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
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Asus, Motorola, and Amazon (and probably others) are all rumored to have Tegra 3 tablets by the end of the year. You can't make much money off of the products you currently have on the market if they are obsoleted by new products your competitors are offering.
I'm going to revise my initial answer.
If you're asking the question "Should I wait?". You should wait.
After the iPad released last year, I started trying to imagine, what exactly I would use a tablet for. Once I was a bit settled on what I wanted to do with it, I started looking for something that would match my needs.
When the 10.1v was announced I realised it was a match and I eagerly went after it.
Maybe you should wait until you are certain that the tablet you are buying is a match for your requirements.
I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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mramirezusa said:
I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-light
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
-brilliant batery (i charge it each night but it only gets down to 30-50% after full day of use)
-netbook replacment (people will argue this but i haven't found a netbook more fun then this, and you can put debian on it )
-casual gaming (not sure of anything on the market you cannotplay onit except porley designed games that are just tiny boxs)
Things it isn't:
-high def cinema (you can run standard def fine and it looks great but if you are obsesd with 720P wait)
-ipad (yer thats a pritty good reason )
-high end device (tegra 2 is fun and all but nexus s still out performes all tegra 2 devices so if you want the bigest and best wait for qualcomm)
In conclusion if you want a great device that doesn't need to be compared to a PC (which i hate that thats were we uave goten in tablets) then go pick one up, but if your after a device that you want to luanch thermal nucular war with wait for qualcomm.
Note: bad spelling is becuase i'm dislexcic(fail i know thats wroung but cannot remember the correct spelling)
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I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
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Ahh. You're more into the 30 pin connector then?
I'll stop short of making a crack about the shape of said connector
I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Unfortunately no.
hi everyone , ive just bought my motorola xoom mz604 , and i think its awesome because android honeycomb is really good OS, it is fast and smooth
but iam having some problems with installing apps, and i realized that most of them aren't compitable with the xoom, like the android games hawx, assassins creed and modern combat 2...
anyways i just wanted to know the adv and dis-adv of my device from an expert
thnx =)
sorry for my bad english
Answering the question in your title, the xoom IS good... very good, in fact. Sure there are a few apps here and there that do not work, but for the most part, everything runs fine. Additionally, the new scaling option in 3.2 ensures that more apps are functional. I simply love the beauty and elegance of honeycomb, and I still find the xoom to be my preferred method to obtain the honeycomb experience. Plus, being Google's reference HC device, we get all of the updates first.
I like it
3.1/3.2 is brill for emulators too when you connect up a ps3 controller via usb!
Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.
Ummmm. Its the "google dev" device. With that said...
Moto is a horrible company
The xoom 3g has turned into the last tab to recieve updates
Still no promised 4g
Sd support is only soso...
I would recommend a samsung device...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom
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...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom
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I couldn't disagree more, but to each his own...
I'm plenty happy with mine, just a wifi though and no cell network model. That, honestly, is probably the issue with slow updates just like it is for my epic: the company that runs the network it's attached to wants to manage its stuff (aka install crap and extra 'features') and is slowing down the process. Sprint is HORRIBLE with this.
As for why I chose the xoom over others - part of it was price, it was the $400 32gb wifi model off woot.com. Second was that it has actual ports on it (micro-usb, mini-hdmi, etc) and not some proprietary jack *cough*galaxytab*cough* that you need to hook up some dorky dongle to in order to get a usb port.
I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
I have to root this thing to get that basic feature. I think they still haven't figured out the issue that devs figured out. Other than that I like it and apps are slowly starting to catch up.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.
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What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.
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I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Plus no sd slot and only one port
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I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Fair Enough. Touchwiz might be able to be disabled when it comes out but maybe not. The xoom comes with a bit of crapware itself, dungeon defender and cordy are the ones that come to mind though there may be more.
It would not be worth the cost to me but to each his own. You could probably find a xoom owner who is fed up with Motorola enough to do a trade.
xoom
I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.
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I hope it's good Mine should be here tomorrow
I just exchanged the tab must say i like the xoom better and i already have a spare 16gb sd
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I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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I second that
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4g is coming in sept. Per verizon
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Good, solid hardware.
Mine was rooted 5 minutes out of the box, so I have had SD R/W since day one.
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I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
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I had to fiddle around with the formatting in order to make it work, but I know the problem you had and eventually got around it. Try ntfs, fat, or whatever - just mess around with it in your computer until you find one that it likes. I forget offhand what made mine happy.
Hey guys, the Prime specs have just been released, is anyone contemplating getting the Prime? Asus has so far has a good track record with updates and also the Prime is going to be getting ICS. Will you be keeping your Xoom? Or will you be trading it in for the new quad-core tablet? I love my Xoom and it will only get better with the ICS update and the source released so the devs will truly be able to do their magic but, the Prime looks pretty good and its tempting seeing as it lines up with Christmas.
Link for the specs.
I personally will be holding onto the Xoom until further notice. The Prime is only the first of many quad core tablets lined up for release, like how the Xoom was for Honeycomb. I am a hardcore Droid fan since the launch of the OG Droid, thus I will get a quad core tablet when Motorola launches theirs. I have been waiting very patiently for a quad core tablet since late last year, and I can hold out awhile longer knowing the great ones are on their way.
As tempting as the Prime is, I can control the urge to buy. The Xoom can be overclocked quite high without terrible loss in battery life, and it zips along with great speed. No worries for me!
I need Verizon LTE so no upgrade for me until a quad core LTE table launches.
Holding out for something better. I want to see more ram in the two to four GB range and a higher definition screen .
these arguments are exactly what is kind of preventing me from getting a prime. Also the fact that development will be slow and that the full potential of the prime may not be unlocked until other tabs pop up later... Also in the games arena, tegra3 dedicated games may not come out for a while if at all? so just cuz you have a quad core, you may still only get the same user defined power as our xoom (not sure on that this is my own assumption at present)
Well it looks like my xoom is going to be like my alienware m9700. Old as dust and still kicking butt! I just don't see enough of a performance jump in the tegra 3. Shadowgun plays just as smooth on the xoom, so do videos. I want to see a tablet that supports USB burners, hdd, printers, and everything else my laptop does. Without a damn keyboard!!! I can do everything with my xoom except burn dvd's.
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i'll use my Xoom until it can't perform as good as I need it too..
I am not doing anything massive with my Xoom so I imagine it will be kicking along until Android x.x won't install on it anymore.
I'm finding it hard to resist the Prime tbh. I'm a bit of a gadget freak and I really like the look of the Prime. That said, I'm sure my Mrs would go ballistic if I bought another tablet before I'd had the Xoom even a year...!
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... I'm sure my Mrs would go ballistic if I bought another tablet before I'd had the Xoom even a year...!
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I'd go ballistic, if I had to justify what I spend my money on
BTT:
Well, I never liked Asus-products' look and feel (lol @ the transformer) and I can't think of a real benefit right NOW. So I'll wait for something "better" ...
NO LTE, no Tablet for me
I love the specs on the Prime. It's like a Xoom only better in just about every way (not to say that I don't already love my Xoom) but until they make a LTE version I won't be buying. I am not going to hassle with Tethering or have to wait until I have Wi-Fi. When I really use my tablet is when I am not at home or not at work and often traveling.
I would love the faster Browsing speed though, Quad Core with LTE = kick butt browsing.
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The Asus Prime is very competitively priced. It's actually the same price as the first TF 32GB when it was announced, and it'll probably be lower than the Xoom2 10" at 32GB. A little surprising for Asus, who were positioning themselves as a premium brand. Then again, it's hard to buck the $500 ceiling set by the iPad.
Nice to see the price competition. Although personally I'm not a fan of the hybrid package, and the Prime's ergonomics is wanting. But it looks great, which is what matters.
I'd like to see performance benchmarks vs OMAP4, and also the rooting issue. Some of the Asus TF B70 stepping models (going back since August) still haven't been rooted.
>I would love the faster Browsing speed though, Quad Core with LTE = kick butt browsing.
If you need a quad to web browse, then the problem is the OS & software, which for Android at the moment is still kind of true.
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The Asus Prime is very competitively priced. It's actually the same price as the first TF 32GB when it was announced, and it'll probably be lower than the Xoom2 10" at 32GB. A little surprising for Asus, who were positioning themselves as a premium brand. Then again, it's hard to buck the $500 ceiling set by the iPad.
Nice to see the price competition. Although personally I'm not a fan of the hybrid package, and the Prime's ergonomics is wanting. But it looks great, which is what matters.
I'd like to see performance benchmarks vs OMAP4, and also the rooting issue. Some of the Asus TF B70 stepping models (going back since August) still haven't been rooted.
>I would love the faster Browsing speed though, Quad Core with LTE = kick butt browsing.
If you need a quad to web browse, then the problem is the OS & software, which for Android at the moment is still kind of true.
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This is so true, a single core @ 1ghz should be more than enough for basic trivial tasks.
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Hey guys, the Prime specs have just been released, is anyone contemplating getting the Prime? Asus has so far has a good track record with updates and also the Prime is going to be getting ICS. Will you be keeping your Xoom? Or will you be trading it in for the new quad-core tablet? I love my Xoom and it will only get better with the ICS update and the source released so the devs will truly be able to do their magic but, the Prime looks pretty good and its tempting seeing as it lines up with Christmas.
Link for the specs.
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I'm thinking about giving the Xoom to my daughter or wife and getting the Prime.
The Xoom 2 looks a little uninteresting ....
(it's not about the quad-core, I rarely need duo-core)
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I'm thinking about giving the Xoom to my daughter or wife and getting the Prime.
The Xoom 2 looks a little uninteresting ....
(it's not about the quad-core, I rarely need duo-core)
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Hey, that's a good idea. The Mrs might not be so angry if I give her the Xoom. Although... just thinking here... she'll probably make the argument that she should have the lighter of the two. Hmm. This will require some thought.
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Hey, that's a good idea. The Mrs might not be so angry if I give her the Xoom. Although... just thinking here... she'll probably make the argument that she should have the lighter of the two. Hmm. This will require some thought.
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Lol think again...wives are pissed when they get the hand me down and you get the hot new ****! She will want to know why she doesn't get the new tablet since you already have the Xoom!
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Lol think again...wives are pissed when they get the hand me down and you get the hot new ****! She will want to know why she doesn't get the new tablet since you already have the Xoom!
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Simple answer though... because I'm paying for it.
Now... whether that would work...?
I about to sell my xoom, and waiting for Prime. But then, i -rethinking that i bought my xoom for $530.If i want sell it now, i would lose around $200. It's not worth. So i guess i keep my xoom, waiting for ICS. And i'll buy a new Window 8 tablet.
I hope Tegra 3 can play any video you throw at it without the need to convert. It may be worth to upgrade to one if I have the money to do so.
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Lol think again...wives are pissed when they get the hand me down and you get the hot new ****! She will want to know why she doesn't get the new tablet since you already have the Xoom!
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My wife is always quite happy to get my tech hand me downs. Especially since they're usually about 6 months old and like new.
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Kippui said:
I hope Tegra 3 can play any video you throw at it without the need to convert. It may be worth to upgrade to one if I have the money to do so.
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That's one of the reasons I'm considering the Prime.
I assume you're talking about hi-res and not just file format? MX Player Pro's codec package will play about any file format on my Xoom without the need to convert.
But the Xoom doesn't have enough power to play hi-res MOV's. Maybe the Tegra 3 will .... we'll see.
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I hope Tegra 3 can play any video you throw at it without the need to convert. It may be worth to upgrade to one if I have the money to do so.
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Have you tried Dice Player? I just watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes in high Res 720p without any problems.
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