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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.

I've had the same thought, but since my GF got it for me for X-mas, I'm gonna keep using it, and give it back to her when I can afford a XOOM
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kenfly said:
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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I got the tab in January and so far other than gaining root haven’t done anything else with it, the mobility factor is a big plus no question about it, but then I got the xoom on launching day and now I really like them both…so if or when you do it you will appreciate the differences.
I think the Devs have nothing to do with your decision.

I really like the form factor, but performance is an issue with my tab. and with the dev community not really huge, i feel left out of so much with all of these honeycomb tegra2 tablets coming out. I just really feel that Samsung really jumped the gun with the tab. releasing it with no hopes of any real update. Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
Maybe SGT 8.9 if released with similar specs as of the xoom. and reasonably priced

The tegra processors and Honycomb make our tab look outdated already but IMO the differences are not that big unless one expects too much from a tablet; is not going to replace our laptops yet…as for sami updating my hopes are nonexistent. I was in Germany recently when a saw the tab of a friend of mine, phone working etc I turned green . My biggest beef is with the carriers here in the US that crippled the device.

tegra 2 isnt a device without their own problem
like not able to play 720p mkv movies unless it converted on a specific format
that would be a problem to some people
and is there really a lot of app that dual core ready anyway?
afaik, for normal process, only 1 core would work unless there's a need for the 2nd core?
jumping too soon on honeycomb with limited apps wouldnt make that much of a difference either
and did you say saving up? how long? ^^
if it took months, who knows we already got honeycomb or ice cream on the way on our tab?
honeycomb, i doubt, but the next generation for smartphone definitely gonna be ported to our tab IMO
my main interest in this tab is phone capability, so unless there's another contender out there, i'm still gonna keep this one

kenfly said:
Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
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I'm trying to see what trickery Samsung have fooled you with here?
The 7" Tab was sold as an Android 2.2 device, with no promise of a Honeycomb update, and that's what they delivered.
We may, or may not get an official upgrade, which may be Honeycomb, or perhaps Gingerbread, but the Tab is still a very capable and useful device as is IMO. I do believe that we will at least get an unofficial Honeycomb ROM once the source code drops.
None of the upcoming tablets can replace my Tab because they are too big for my purposes, though I may end up getting a bigger tablet purely for home use.
Regards,
Dave

For me its all about size, the 10s are just to big to carry around comfortably. Might as well continue to carry my Dell mini9 laptop. I dont require much from my tab maybe thats why Im happy with the 7.
Remember no matter what you buy it has a good 6 months of obsolescence built in

I think most devs wait for the honeycomb source... no one wants a broken sdk port on an expensive device...
As soon as HC hits aosp I'll contribute developing.

And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.

rangercaptain said:
And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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Agreed. The xoom may be "developer friendly" but it is way too expensive to mess around with.. the galaxy tab gets cheaper and cheaper and will attract more devs too over time.

Why are we comparing the Tab and the Xoom? Two totally different niches. Anyone buying a Tab should know what they are getting, and most that do are getting them for a reason. 7 inches, and a solid product with the full Android Market without having to push it onto the device.
I have three different 7 inch tablets right now (had a 4th, but the Dell Streak 7 is dismal) and the Galaxy Tab is BY FAR the best of the three. The NookColor is fun, and is running dual-boot Honeycomb (port from sdk) and froyo. It's overclocked to 1.1Ghz and is primarily used by my wife as an e-reader (which is what B&N intended), though she likes firing up Angry Birds, etc.
The Archos 70 Internet Tablet is running 2.2.1..and is slim and can handle just about ANY media thrown it's way. Archos is a leader in Media devices, having created the HDD portable Music player before anyone else (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos)...including Apple. It's hands down the best for watching movies. However it's flimsy and buggy...Archos sucks at support, truly. Plus, there's not much in the way of accessories for it. I had the 10.1 also...but sold it.
My Tab gets the most use...as I swap my phone's sim into it quite frequently. And it handles pretty much everything I want it to do. Out of the 3, theres no comparison as to my satisfaction.
If I wanted another 10" Tablet...and wanted Honeycomb right now, I STILL would not get the Xoom. I can afford it, but that doesn't mean I want to plunk down $800 on something obviously rushed out of production. Too many things wrong with this early adopter device.
Here's to hoping the incoming 8.9' Galaxy Tab has some of the kinks worked out...cuz I'm gonna pounce on it right away. 10.1" prolly not, the form factor just too large for my usage.

Whatever some people get, they will NEVER be satisfied

hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her

kenfly said:
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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If you bought a tablet based on the dev community then you were wrong to do that in the first place. You buy something for what it is, not what it may be based on some random people messing around with roms.
I can't see how a 10" Xoom could possibly be a replacement for the 7" SGT. One you can carry around with you, use in your car, act as a backup phone, and the other is mostly a stay at home couch device. Personally I think the Xoom is a bit of a let down on things it should be better at - like playing high bitrate movies. SGT blows it away on that score. The SGT build and screen is also very high quality. As good as my iPad 1 (which I've not really touched since the SGT came along. Never mind how I've come to despise the Apple lock-in methodology...).
Honeycomb looks like it will be a great update when the bugs are ironed out, but Froyo (maybe Gingerbread soon) on the SGT currently makes more sense as the device really is closer to a phone than a tablet (and I'm personally happy that it is). Ice Cream Sandwich looks like it will be the natural OS upgrade for this device, as it will combine Honeycomb UI changes with smartphone functionality. Whether Samsung will release it for the SGT in the coming months is anyone's guess, but for now I'm rocking the Tab. For a couch device I'll see what the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is like (hopefully they'll find a fix for the video snafu), but none of the Tegra 2 SoC based tablets are wowing me at the moment.

Bandage said:
hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.

rangercaptain said:
I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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Lol...not mine, she's become a gadget snob. Though she won't admit it, she's glad to be cutting edge. I see it when her girlfriends drool over the cool gadgets she totes around, lmao. We'll go get coffee, and she will look to see who noticed her pretty NookColor while she's reading and surfing the internets.

So you're selling a device because people aren't modding it? IMHO that's a ridiculous reason to sell this amazing piece of tech.
And im guessing one main reason is Honeycomb because, lets face it, its what everyone wants in a tablet. Then why not buy a Nook? You complain lack of development, the Nook Honeycomb port is better than anything they'll ever do with the Xoom.
Still, just my opinion. I'm keeping my Tab until it dies, then ill get another one.
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+1
and..truly one of these days someone WILL put out an Android device that doesn't need modding! Might be 3 years from now...with 8 core cpu & AirWave connectivity (5+TB wireless connection passed through our existing electrical cables that are strung on the poles...or passed through now vacated VHF / UHF signals...yeah, I can dream BIG!)

But you will only be able to get 3g data or 2g+ voice.

Xoom any good?

Thinking of getting the xoom over the samsung tab 10.1 are people happy with the xoom?
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If you want a supported device get a xoom. I think the new gtab will launch with 2.1 and get 3.0 in about 8-12 months. (JK, but seriously Samsung has a proven track record of ZERO support for their devices)

iammodo said:
Thinking of getting the xoom over the samsung tab 10.1 are people happy with the xoom?
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You're probably going to get a bunch of people yelling at you for asking a question that has been asked many times over.
I'll answer though.
In short, yes it's good. It's excellent in my opinion.
Currently all Tablets running Honeycomb are going to suffer from having relatively few apps. This was the case when the first iPad was released. Luckily there are plenty of developers out there dedicated to creating quality applications for Honeycomb. Within a month or two, there will be an influx of applications and people will wish they had purchased the Xoom when they had the chance. With production numbers dropping there is no telling what Motorola's next design might be. It could be a locked down version like the Atrix phone kind of similar to what happened with the original Droid that was running vanilla Android. The Droid 2 had Motoblur and a locked bootloader; currently, owners of the original Droid are enjoying Gingerbread by Peter Alfonso.
Here are some current complaints:
1) No SD card support yet
2) LTE Upgrade will take 6 days
3) Application selection is limited
4) Performance seems low for a dual core product
My response:
1) It is coming and currently the unit has 32 GB of internal storage, are you running out already? If so, sit tight and you will be able to expand it to 64GB really cheaply.
2) Better than waiting 3 months on the release of the Xoom altogether, and if you are using it Wifi only like I am tethering it to my Epic 4G, LTE is irrelevant.
3) This will change with time, early adopters syndrome
4) As Google releases new versions of Honeycomb this will be addressed. Additionally there are already kernels bumping the speed from 1Ghz to 1.5Ghz creating a 50% performance increase out of the gates.
Anyway, it's all preference. I love Motorola's products so I got the Xoom.

This is like walking into an Apple store and asking if Macs are any good. What are you expecting?
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Having never owned a tab before, the xoom is my first experience and I think it's awosme.
Matter of fact i loved the xoom so much i dumped my iphone 4 and got an HTC inspire for my everyday phone.
I personally have only one complaint and that is it's very susceptable to glare.

kjdocs said:
Having never owned a tab before, the xoom is my first experience and I think it's awosme.
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Well you're not alone, no one here has probably used the Tab 10.1 before because it isn't out yet! lol.
But seriously OP, coming to a Xoom forum asking a question that's been asked in detail a million times already is ridiculous. You're gonna get pretty polarized answers... Every other post in this forum is about how good/bad the Xoom is, just read.

anywho, back to the OP's question,
i'd wait it out and get that samsung. its thinner, lighter, cheaper, and has a better display than the xoom. but lets not get ahead here, those samsung tablets at CTIA were mockups.
as for updates, do not worry about that, as updates will be coming since the new gtab's will be a near google experience device. CNET has reported that the TouchWiz updates could possibly be an optional update. And tbh, i kinda like the new touchwiz UI.
personally, i'd wait.

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anywho, back to the OP's question,
personally, i'd wait.
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Samsung is evil incarnate, having just come from a Samsung Fascinate, I can tell you touchwiz is the most godawful piece of software you could ever have on your device. Not becuase it isnt good, touchwiz isnt all that bad, but, and this is a BIG bit, YOU WILL NEVER GET UPDATES. EVER. PERIOD. THANKS FOR PLAYING BUY OUR NEXT PRODUCT TO GET A SOFTWARE UPGRADE! No thank you. Not playing that game again. Not now. Not ever!

I can't wait to see if the GTabs will get updated. That is one of the main reasons people seem to be using to prevent others from liking them. Luckily the general population could care less about going from Android 2.2, to 2.3, and for those who can't wait... rooting is the alternative. Or buying another device.

Thanks to everyone that posted USEFUL comments.
I was at work and posted from my phone, so didn't want to risk reading 100's of threads.
This would be my first tablet so dont want spend £500+ and get a laggy device.
I have clicked "thanks" for everyone who left a useful comment.

It does not really matter if it's close to stock. Example the g2.
If you're one of those folks that always want the updates first you basically need a Google experience device.
Sammy seems to be the worst out of all the oems though.
Also look at the vodafone nexus one as far as updates that are tied to carrier goes.
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Motorola has already said that the report on cutting back on manufacturing xooms is 100% BS

I'm also considering buying a Xoom... I was going to buy the Galaxy tab 10.1, but yesterdays announcement kind of changed that, i don't want to wait until June.
So i have two options now, buy a Xoom or the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 (now renamed to 10.1v in EU).
About Xoom, i like the idea of clean Android, updates, USB and microSD slot. I have a feeling that Xoom will get more support in XDA forums also.
I'm not sure i like the extra 131g.
About Galaxy Tab 10.1v, i actually like the original design more, i don't care that it's 2mm thicker then the new one.
But I'm sure I don't like the idea of not getting any updates or getting a update with that TouchWiz UX.
Considering all this and that you have actually hold the 730g Xoom in your hand, which would you buy?

The Touchwiz UI they put on the tab isnt the same as one on the phones. But still, even that has to be revamped when new version of android comes out. Samsung is the worst when talking about updates. I liked the design of the original GTab 10.1 too, but thinking of updates, I went ahead and got the xoom. Samsung just needs to stop putting **** on awesome device like that and make the damn thing go into shame.

Xoom Ordered

Well just ordered my Xoom.
Had a poke on the Otterbox site and thinking of ordering one of them (Got the commuter on my DHD) as well as a matt screen cover (again on my DHD).
Then I came here, thinking perhaps I should of done that first as there seems to be mixed feelings about the Xoom, I mainly decided on the Xoom as it was the only one with 3g that I could get at the time..
Maybe I should of gone for the Flyer or A500 instead

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Well just ordered my Xoom.
Had a poke on the Otterbox site and thinking of ordering one of them (Got the commuter on my DHD) as well as a matt screen cover (again on my DHD).
Then I came here, thinking perhaps I should of done that first as there seems to be mixed feelings about the Xoom, I mainly decided on the Xoom as it was the only one with 3g that I could get at the time..
Maybe I should of gone for the Flyer or A500 instead
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The Flyer is an interesting looking device but the screen is significantly smaller than the Xoom (7 inch vs 10 inch), and it is running Gingerbread rather than Honeycomb. Also, it's bootloaders are still locked tight so rooting and modding will be an uphill struggle.
The A500 is a nice machine, but a bit heavier than the Xoom. Also, I have had bad experiences in the past with Acer which tends to skimp on Design and build quality at times. However the full size USB is a nice addition. On the minus side, the dev community for the Iconia is not nearly as far along or as active as here with the Xoom. In addition it is still waiting for 3.1, which if you are in the US your Xoom will have via OTA right out of the box or it is easily added using XDA guides.
I feel you made the right choice ordering the Xoom...and I agree, Otterbox cases are the gold standard, the crowning touch on a great device.

i have had the otterbox defender case for the xoom since early last week. it ROCKS! bullet proof construction. can be configured in a couple ways, ports are secured by flaps. they took the time to get this right. worth the money spent and the time to wait on it.

Not in the USA, in the UK so no OTA for me, guess I'll be checking out the ROM's soon enough, dont think I've had a device thats been supported here thats had stock ROM on it for more than a day after it arriving :lol:

Trig0r said:
Well just ordered my Xoom.
Had a poke on the Otterbox site and thinking of ordering one of them (Got the commuter on my DHD) as well as a matt screen cover (again on my DHD).
Then I came here, thinking perhaps I should of done that first as there seems to be mixed feelings about the Xoom, I mainly decided on the Xoom as it was the only one with 3g that I could get at the time..
Maybe I should of gone for the Flyer or A500 instead
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Me too! It will replace my not so bad Gtab
I was looking for a small device, but so far the smallest announced is the LG but it doesn't have GPS and the price point isn't that great, one of my friend have a Transformer, it's a nice unit for the price but it feel too big!
The Flyer is't as powerful as the Tegra, and other model where bigger, beside the accessory for the xoom seem interesting!
Not sure yet what I am going to do with the gtab, I might as well keep it to have a testbed for rom flashing, not sure!
anyhow, ordered from costco in canada, so I have plenty of option in regard of exchange or credit (I expect the canadian version to follow the US pricing down to 499)
The reason why I am upgrading is that I want to use the encryption on the unit, I can't help to think about the nightmare if It got stolen!

Trig0r said:
Well just ordered my Xoom.
Had a poke on the Otterbox site and thinking of ordering one of them (Got the commuter on my DHD) as well as a matt screen cover (again on my DHD).
Then I came here, thinking perhaps I should of done that first as there seems to be mixed feelings about the Xoom, I mainly decided on the Xoom as it was the only one with 3g that I could get at the time..
Maybe I should of gone for the Flyer or A500 instead
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I returned my A500 for the Xoom last week and haven't looked back since. The Acer is heavier than the Xoom but it actually feels lighter because of the weight distribution on it. Overall the A500 is a very nice device but since Costco had the Xoom on sale for only $20 its an easy call.
The pros for the A500 are the full size usb connector and working SD card slot.
The pros for the Xoom are the software updates, dev support, and more accessories to name a few.

Yea I'm ordering the otterbox from amazon I've been looking for the white and black version that I saw on YouTube anybody know who has them
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woodylee said:
I returned my A500 for the Xoom last week and haven't looked back since. The Acer is heavier than the Xoom but it actually feels lighter because of the weight distribution on it. Overall the A500 is a very nice device but since Costco had the Xoom on sale for only $20 its an easy call.
The pros for the A500 are the full size usb connector and working SD card slot.
The pros for the Xoom are the software updates, dev support, and more accessories to name a few.
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If you flash a custom kernel to the Xoom, you can have your SD card, and use it, too! :-D
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Whats the deal with custom ROM's, same sort of thing as the phone, unlock, root, clockworkmod?
Who's the best guys to follow ROM wise, I'm not so bothered about regular releases with all the new bells and whistles, I want something thats mature and well supported similar to what I get with the revolutionHD ROM that mike1986 kicks out..

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Whats the deal with custom ROM's, same sort of thing as the phone, unlock, root, clockworkmod?
Who's the best guys to follow ROM wise, I'm not so bothered about regular releases with all the new bells and whistles, I want something thats mature and well supported similar to what I get with the revolutionHD ROM that mike1986 kicks out..
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Since HC sources are not available, ROMs for the Xoom focus can only focus on overclocking, optimizing and adding small features but I can say that BigRushDog's work really adds to the performance of my Xoom.
BigRushDog (BRD) creates the Tiamat kernels and custom ROM (along with Solarnz and the rest of Team Tiamat) and is definitely the one to watch as far as custom romming on the Xoom currently.
Also keep an eye on the Launchpad kernel by TDR as well.

Whata bout the dreaded Tegra HD playback issues, that sort of thing fixed in the customs, what about the SD card slot working?

cancel your order and get the galaxy 10.1, i have my xoom for months and loved it, just got a GT and am selling my xoom on ebay, i LOVE my GT

DroidHam said:
cancel your order and get the galaxy 10.1, i have my xoom for months and loved it, just got a GT and am selling my xoom on ebay, i LOVE my GT
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Why should he cancel I returned the 10.1 for the Xoom because theres no expandable storage or 3g data only wifi the only plus the 10.1 has is its thinner and I noticed the Xoom has longer battery life
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Why should he cancel I returned the 10.1 for the Xoom because theres no expandable storage or 3g data only wifi the only plus the 10.1 has is its thinner and I noticed the Xoom has longer battery life
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i personally hate Samsung products, the quality is cheap and they always break very easily. As well i think the xoom looks alot better and if i'm not mistaken it has a 5mp camera vs. the 3.15mp on the tab 10.1.

I had a Samsung N220 netbook, was ok tbh but the complete lack of support from Samsung was enoguh to put me off any of there stuff again..
The reason I went for the Xoom was for the 3g in the end as its the only Android tablet my supplier had in that was 3g, I would of looked at the Transformer but they dont stock Asus...
My requirements were, in no particular order.
Expandable storage
Bluetooth
Wifi
3G
Media Playback
I was also looking at the Flyer but they arent getting stock of the 3G one until the end of the month and I want it before then..
Xoom seemed to tick all the right boxes..

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I had a Samsung N220 netbook, was ok tbh but the complete lack of support from Samsung was enoguh to put me off any of there stuff again..
The reason I went for the Xoom was for the 3g in the end as its the only Android tablet my supplier had in that was 3g, I would of looked at the Transformer but they dont stock Asus...
My requirements were, in no particular order.
Expandable storage
Bluetooth
Wifi
3G
Media Playback
I was also looking at the Flyer but they arent getting stock of the 3G one until the end of the month and I want it before then..
Xoom seemed to tick all the right boxes..
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And if you get tired of verizon you can flash the xoom to another carrier like I did, $400 deposit for $35/month data my ass and thats after I gave them ****ers $800 for the xoom
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3G is pointless with a 4G Thunderbolt to tether to.
Galaxy Tab has better battery life
Screen is WAY better.
32GB internal is plenty of data for me, I had a Xoom for 3 months and never used the SD Card even after I rooted and installed the kernel for it.
Dont get me wrong, I loved my Xoom, but I think its outdated now. Its big and bulky, and has a sub par screen.
Just my opinion, but I think my SGT is ALOT nicer.

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3G is pointless with a 4G Thunderbolt to tether to.
Galaxy Tab has better battery life
Screen is WAY better.
32GB internal is plenty of data for me, I had a Xoom for 3 months and never used the SD Card even after I rooted and installed the kernel for it.
Dont get me wrong, I loved my Xoom, but I think its outdated now. Its big and bulky, and has a sub par screen.
Just my opinion, but I think my SGT is ALOT nicer.
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Try this experiment, that I did, only don't use your GT. I went into a BestBuy and tried to flex/twist the iPad2, Xoom and Iconia, The iPad2 and Xoom were solid, no give. The Iconia flexed and creaked. Let us know how the GT fares, but use a display model, not your personal GT.
As far as viewing angles go, I've not found the Xoom to be problematic as once the angle gets extreme the viewing experience goes down hill because of the angle, not just the change of image quality. Although I wouldn't complain if the Xoom had an IPA or equivalent display.

flyer is extremely laggy

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Try this experiment, that I did, only don't use your GT. I went into a BestBuy and tried to flex/twist the iPad2, Xoom and Iconia, The iPad2 and Xoom were solid, no give. The Iconia flexed and creaked. Let us know how the GT fares, but use a display model, not your personal GT.
As far as viewing angles go, I've not found the Xoom to be problematic as once the angle gets extreme the viewing experience goes down hill because of the angle, not just the change of image quality. Although I wouldn't complain if the Xoom had an IPA or equivalent display.
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Try this:
goto best buy, and slam the ipad2 on the ground. Does it break?
Point is, im careful with my devices. Im never going to "twist" my tablet. Its thin, so yes, its vulnerable. Luckily I am careful. If you want a brick to make sure you can twist your device without it breaking go for it.

Considering a tablet, want suggestions!

Hey guys, so tomorrow is my birthday and my grandparents said they'd be willing to buy me a tablet. Thing is, I don't know which tablet I want. I'm highly considering the Galaxy Tab 10.1 since I love Touchwiz UX, and looking at the reviews makes me even more confident. However, I'm not sure if I should wait a big longer for tablets to get quad-core, and if that would affect gaming for me in the near future. (Like for example, newer 3D games would be hard to run since I don't have quad-core).
Any ideas?
Thanks!

I still think the ASUS Transformer is tops with the dock. AND they have UX ported.
However the Galaxy Tab(s) are going to get good development. But hell so does the Transformer.
I would say wait for Kal-El. But they keep pushing it back.

Well, I'm actually not planning on rooting it only because its a gift and I have my phone to mess around with so I don't really care for that. I know what you mean though about kal-el. I want to wait for it, but its not certain when it will come out or anything and its hard to keep up with the latest and greatest. Thanks though, I'm curious to hear others suggestions
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Ask for a giftcard. Wait for windows 8

Or the nexus prime. >5" is a tablet for my standards
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I would wait to see ICS and how quickly it is adopted on the current gen tablets. If Samsung is as bad as updating the Tabs as they were the original US Galaxy line.. Ugh. Plus, yeah, there is Kal-el a you mentioned already.
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I highly recommend ipad. As of right now none other tablet works like ipad. I bought touchpad during fire sale but I sold it recently because it didn't do better than my phone or laptop.
This means that my touchpad wasn't worth while to bring to work, as it lacked note taking ability nor presenting ability. I bet if u buy galaxy for 500$, you will spend most of time trying to tinker it to do what you intended to but ultimately gets frustrated and sell it.
Also most of the productivity apps are fine tuned for ipad.
However if you are going to use tablet for media consumption, get kindle fire. It has vast library of amazon goodness. But it lacks mic and ffc which makes skype unusable.
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If you don't plan on rooting I'd say the Galaxy Tab 10.1, I've messed around with it and it feels a lot more natural to use and the screen is absolutely gorgeous. But that's me, I want to have the tablet experience and after comparing and contrasting the Galaxy Tab is something I'm looking at. I was trying to get a TouchPad before people panicked but I got screwed haha.

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Ask for a giftcard. Wait for windows 8
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Don't worry I am. And nah, I'd rather stick with android.
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I would wait to see ICS and how quickly it is adopted on the current gen tablets. If Samsung is as bad as updating the Tabs as they were the original US Galaxy line.. Ugh. Plus, yeah, there is Kal-el a you mentioned already.
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Well, the galaxy tab was good at updating to 3.2 pretty quickly. And since it's their only big tablet (other than the different sizes), it's going to get updated more frequently than the epic most likely (especially since I'm getting the wifi version, so no worries about getting the OTA from Sprint). As much as I want to wait for kal-el, I think I'm just gonna go with the galaxy tab 10.1. Kal-el is keep getting pushed back, and for all I know it won't come out for another 4-5 months. Sure I may miss out on some games, but technology moves fast these days. I guess you gotta find a point and stick with it for a while.
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I highly recommend ipad. As of right now none other tablet works like ipad. I bought touchpad during fire sale but I sold it recently because it didn't do better than my phone or laptop.
This means that my touchpad wasn't worth while to bring to work, as it lacked note taking ability nor presenting ability. I bet if u buy galaxy for 500$, you will spend most of time trying to tinker it to do what you intended to but ultimately gets frustrated and sell it.
Also most of the productivity apps are fine tuned for ipad.
However if you are going to use tablet for media consumption, get kindle fire. It has vast library of amazon goodness. But it lacks mic and ffc which makes skype unusable.
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I know what you mean. I've definitely considered the iPad. It's great for gaming, productivity, almost everything. Jailbreaking is harmless and I never have to worry about battery life. But the beauty of Android that I love that it's constantly growing. Not just in rom development, but in the marketplace and system as a whole. I feel like everyday I can wake up and see a new app for Android or a new leak of the latest build. Besides, I love the customizability and Touchwiz UX. And I think I'll be satisfied with it. I have my phone for hacking and everything, so I don't think I'll get too many urges to go and break my tablet.
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If you don't plan on rooting I'd say the Galaxy Tab 10.1, I've messed around with it and it feels a lot more natural to use and the screen is absolutely gorgeous. But that's me, I want to have the tablet experience and after comparing and contrasting the Galaxy Tab is something I'm looking at. I was trying to get a TouchPad before people panicked but I got screwed haha.
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Well, now I know I'm making the right decision. I hope you're right

Get the 10.1
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Get Gtab and put on In Paris and Pershoot's kernel. Fun times.

The Root said:
Get Gtab and put on In Paris and Pershoot's kernel. Fun times.
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He's not going to root it, as it's a gift.

If you're going for space try the Archos 501586 7o. 250GB HDD!
Lack of dual core and honeycomb being the drawbacks

darkierawr said:
If you're going for space try the Archos 501586 7o. 250GB HDD!
Lack of dual core and honeycomb being the drawbacks
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Dang!! But eh, not worth it.
Since it's wifi-only, I'm gonna have music only streamed so no space there. Other than that, it's just apps and movies and movies I can delete if necessary.

Go iPad. You wont regret it. Especially if you already use iTunes.
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readingkeeper said:
Go iPad. You wont regret it. Especially if you already use iTunes.
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Nah, I think I've made up my mind. I mean, I know what you're saying. If I were to get an iPad, there would be nothing wrong with it and I'd have no complaints. But on that same note, I would also end out regretting not buying the galaxy tab 10.1 since I didn't give it a chance. I mean, idk. I want a galaxy tab 10.1, but others say iPad. What's bad about the tab 10.1?

I've heard nothing but good things from both really.

Well, now I'm just debating and my head's hurting a lot lol. I love Android and Touchwiz UX, but the iPad also offers well-known battery life, a variety of apps, and constant updates.
Ugh, my head has never hurt so much lol. I can't decide

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Well, now I'm just debating and my head's hurting a lot lol. I love Android and Touchwiz UX, but the iPad also offers well-known battery life, a variety of apps, and constant updates.
Ugh, my head has never hurt so much lol. I can't decide
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Let me put it to you like this - You didnt like the CM7 rom even tho you couldnt wait to get it, so just go with what you know and save yourself the headache.

Wait till next year something better will come out.
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Gotta give props to the Xoom

I'm on my second Xoom in a year. I bought a WiFi only model, sold it and grabbed a 4G/LTE version 6 moths ago. Yes, even with all the new tablets out or on their way late last year, I still felt the Xoom was the best Android tablet available with 4G connectivity.The build quality and lack of annoyances (reboots for no reason, slow WiFi connect, bad GPS, etc) that are found on other Android tablets still make the Xoom a really nice option.
I've owned or used Acer tablets, Asus tablets, Toshiba tablets, Samsung tablets, Apple tablets, E-locity tablets and the Xoom. Hands down the Xoom is still my favorite and a year later I feel good every time I use it. I guess initially cost held consumers away from Motorola tablets, which is a shame, because outside of the loving the IPS screen on my Asus Tranformer I pick up my Xoom every time hands down because;
Build quality is better
WiFi is better
Speakers are better
GPS is better
No random reboots
I'm a Motorola fan from phones to tablets and it's a shame the Xoom hasn't commanded the respect and following I think it deserves for being solid Android tablet choice. I'm very happy with mine and hope to continue to get use for work and play out of it for a few more years before trading up.

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I'm on my second Xoom in a year. I bought a WiFi only model, sold it and grabbed a 4G/LTE version 6 moths ago. Yes, even with all the new tablets out or on their way late last year, I still felt the Xoom was the best Android tablet available with 4G connectivity.The build quality and lack of annoyances (reboots for no reason, slow WiFi connect, bad GPS, etc) that are found on other Android tablets still make the Xoom a really nice option.
I've owned or used Acer tablets, Asus tablets, Toshiba tablets, Samsung tablets, Apple tablets, E-locity tablets and the Xoom. Hands down the Xoom is still my favorite and a year later I feel good every time I use it. I guess initially cost held consumers away from Motorola tablets, which is a shame, because outside of the loving the IPS screen on my Asus Tranformer I pick up my Xoom every time hands down because;
Build quality is better
WiFi is better
Speakers are better
GPS is better
No random reboots
I'm a Motorola fan from phones to tablets and it's a shame the Xoom hasn't commanded the respect and following I think it deserves for being solid Android tablet choice. I'm very happy with mine and hope to continue to get use for work and play out of it for a few more years before trading up.
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Now that the Xoom is over a year old and the prices have come down so much, I love being able to tell people that my Xoom holds its own with newer tablets twice its price...and it does!

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Now that the Xoom is over a year old and the prices have come down so much, I love being able to tell people that my Xoom holds its own with newer tablets twice its price...and it does!
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this.....i visit a lot of forums and people always ask whats the best tablet, and no one ever mentions the xoom. so i chime in and ask "what can your tablet do, that mines can't?". I never get an honest answer. The xoom is still one of the best tabs on the market. Even though we dont have full sd card support, or you have to root to enbale usb devices, i still dont find those things bothersome. With a 64gb card installed, why would i need to worry about deleting something from it, attaching an additional hard drive?

I have to admit that other than the Kindle Fire, there isn't an android or apple tablet I would rather have. The Kindle Fire is attractive to me because of the way you can access ALL of the Kindle library content and magazine subscriptions. I also really enjoy the Amazon Instant Video capabilities. Overall, it's just the best portable media device for people who pay for stuff
I still kinda hate my Xoom but there isn't a tablet I would rather have other than something running Windows 8. When Microsoft releases Office for Android, I will probably either keep this device forever or dump it for something lighter that runs Windows 8. I can and do get a lot done with this thing. My husband always comments that I take it everywhere and use it for everything. (I feel that I spent a lot of money on it and should expect to get a lot out of it.)
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I have to admit that other than the Kindle Fire, there isn't an android or apple tablet I would rather have. The Kindle Fire is attractive to me because of the way you can access ALL of the Kindle library content and magazine subscriptions. I also really enjoy the Amazon Instant Video capabilities. Overall, it's just the best portable media device for people who pay for stuff
I still kinda hate my Xoom but there isn't a tablet I would rather have other than something running Windows 8. When Microsoft releases Office for Android, I will probably either keep this device forever or dump it for something lighter that runs Windows 8. I can and do get a lot done with this thing. My husband always comments that I take it everywhere and use it for everything. (I feel that I spent a lot of money on it and should expect to get a lot out of it.)
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Yes, I remember that you were really unhappy with it at some point, but I'm glad to hear that it's been and still is useful to you.
I love, love, love mine, still. Even more than before because it does everything I need and more.

It does hold its own!
So a friend of mine recently got the "new" ipad, or ipad 3... or whatever... One day we sat down together to take some notes and he shows off his new ipad wi-fi and said:
Hey, mine's got a retina display with 1536 x 2048 screen resolution...
So I said... Well, my Xoom's got expandable storage above the 32gb on board memory, flash support in a fantastic browser, A-GPS support, Java MIDP emulator, a 2mp front facing camera, dual band wi-fi hotspot, stereo speakers, oh... and bluetooth that works with pretty much every other device out there...
So he said... well, at least mine's got a higher ppi pixel density...
I just smiled!
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Yes, I remember that you were really unhappy with it at some point, but I'm glad to hear that it's been and still is useful to you.
I love, love, love mine, still. Even more than before because it does everything I need and more.
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Yeah it is, thank you Okantomi. I squeeze everything I can get out of it. What do I do with mine? Typed & handwritten notes for class and work (plus annotated drawings FreeNote is great for that,) scan documents to PDF and sometimes use as an OCR, present PowerPoint briefings (awkward HDMI setup required but it's better than nothing.) While surveying a new event site, I use the camera to take pictures of those building evacuation diagrams, save them as PDF. I then take pictures in the venue with the camera and put those in the same PDF. Using my PDF editor, I can bookmark those pictures in the PDF with the floor plan which lets me create kind of a site familiarization document/way finding tool almost on the fly. If I had a panorama viewer and could put my own buildings on other models in the Android version of Google Earth, I could get almost everything done before I even got back to the office.
I also use AutoCAD WS when the CAD data is available and ESRI ArcView to check some of my mapping stuff (our GPS is a little coarse but it's workable.) I can't integrate CAD into a PDF on the Xoom but the point is that this device that I paid a few hundred dollars for can do almost everything my $2100 Windows 7 tablet can do. It's awesome but not almost 3-4 times the price awesome. It's a shame that they couldn't really make the XYboard a step forward. Come to think of it the Droid2 was only faster than the original Droid (which I wish I had a phone that was just like it but faster. Maybe I'll feel that way about my Xoom in a year?
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Hands down the xoom is the best overall tablet I've owned. I've went through a gtab 10.1, flyer, playbook and about 3 nonames before my xoom. I just can't understand why almost no other company can't make a good tablet like Motorola can.
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Motorola did a great job on the Xyboard as well. I would never own it because it's not a Google Experience Device, but a friend of mine has the DROID Xyboard 10.1 and I love using his. Motorola's customizations are minimal, Honeycomb runs smooth as butter on it, and some of the features are outstanding. Motocast is really cool, as is Dijit. The Xyboard has built-in infrared hardware that allows the tablet (using the Dijit app) to act as a universal remote control to control your TV, cable box, receiver, whatever.
Plus, let's be honest, who builds a tablet sturdier than Motorola does? Everything they build from phones to tablets to two-way radios are built like a brick ****house.

I feel the xoom is still comparable to today's tablets. I proudly use my wingray as a daily driver.
And I honestly don't understand why some people focus on size and weight so much. The Xoom is a little chubby compared to many other tablets, but it certainly isn't fat. And the xoom isn't much heavier than most other tablets either. Yet the xoom can do the same things, if not more things than the other tablets.
Now that isn't to say the xoom is a perfect tablet (it has a couple flaws), and it isn't to say all other tablets aren't as good, its just like others have said, the xoom should be recognized more today.
And performance-wise, the Xyboard may not have superseded the xoom in terms of performance, but for the people who need a tablet, it is a solid choice.

Recently when I went looking for a Tab, I had the chance to try out most of the new stuff that's out today. After mulling it over, and doing a little research, the choice was really pretty easy for me. Being a fan of GED devices, the Xoom, even though not the newest and flashiest Tab, was still my choice.
I couldn't be happier with my Xoom. I use it daily for many needs, and don't see that changing anytime soon.
Long live the Xoom

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Plus, let's be honest, who builds a tablet sturdier than Motorola does? Everything they build from phones to tablets to two-way radios are built like a brick ****house.
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^^^this. imo, motorola has the best build quality of all the devices ive owned, dating back to the star tac. htc is a close 2nd

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Plus, let's be honest, who builds a tablet sturdier than Motorola does? Everything they build from phones to tablets to two-way radios are built like a brick ****house.
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Don't tell me you were there that day the Xoom and I hit the concrete...
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Don't tell me you were there that day the Xoom and I hit the concrete...
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And would the Xoom that hit the concrete be the same Xoom you typed this post on? I love when other people make my point for me!
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I use my GED WiFi Xoom everyday and still love it a year later (got it day one). I also have a Playbook & HTC EVO VIEW 4G & use the XOOM alot more than the other 2 combined. I find myself defending the XOOM on Engadget quite frequently as the fanboys there say it's a major fail. I tell them Xoom can do anything their own Tablets can do (even Delete files/folders using SDCARDXD from Google Play) and I could not be happier. Plus unlike my other tablets the Xoom can use Ad-Hoc and connect to my Photon's Bluetooth for Internet connectivity

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... who builds a tablet sturdier than Motorola does? Everything they build from phones to tablets to two-way radios are built like a brick ****house.
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^ THIS. If Ninjas pop up outta the shadows I suspect I could take out a couple if I have my Xoom nearby
Until an unlockable, WAN-enabled, quad-core 10" Android tablet shows up for sale here in the States, my Xoom is my daily-driver (and will likely be my kick-around tablet even then). ICS and the custom ROMs (full disclosure: I help produce one) make this old tablet even more useful than when I got it, two days after launch day- and I own few electronic items that I can say that about.

Call me bias, Motorola the inventor of cell phone, an American company, all of my life I live in these united states of America the mother of higher learning period. Why in hell would I buy a tech gadget that was made by an inferior mind, there is a reason why all other nation send their logger heads here...again call me bias because I am, Oh yeah in anticipation of the Verizon updates I revert back to 3.2.1 HC..

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Don't tell me you were there that day the Xoom and I hit the concrete...<br />
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And would the Xoom that hit the concrete be the same Xoom you typed this post on? I love when other people make my point for me! <br />
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I can neither confirm nor deny that this is the same Xoom as the authorities are looking for a flat metallic object that was involved in an assault and battery that very day (just kidding, I hit like a girl.)
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Week one Xoom owner here. It's only gotten better with age and I still wouldn't trade it for any other tablet on the market.

I'm glad that your enjoying your Xoom and its treating you well.
Despite any up sides you have stated, build quality, screen and excellent battery life I have been over all a bit disappointed. I was originally very very happy when I got it but over time I have noticed there is a considerable amount of lagg constantly. Despite rooting and using EOS European 3g rom including over clock it seems to make no difference. Bit of a shame really but other than the pain in the ass lagg its a excellent tablet. Wouldn't buy one again but I'm not gutted I did either
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