With the introduction of Windows 8 yesterday and announcement of a Tegra 3 device by the end of the year, are the TF's days numbered?
I had to return my TF thanks to a touch screen failure, still want to get another one but now am having doubts.
Technology is constantly upgrading and if I keep looking over the horizon, I'll never get anything, but it seriously sounds like Tegra 3 is close to coming out. Tegra 2 is actually two year old architecture afterall. I've done this before though, waiting a year for the Adam (which ended up not being too great) then another five months for the Transformer...which is actually pretty awesome.
The biggest issue I have with the TF is its weak video capabilities.
I think the Tegra 3 will solve this (this thing looks beastly, Lost Planet 2?!) with it's quad core muscle.
The end of the year is still six months away. You'll have plenty of time to enjoy your TF. It's not like it's $1000 bucks either.
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The end of the year is still six months away. You'll have plenty of time to enjoy your TF. It's not like it's $1000 bucks either.
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$700 for a 32gb, keyboard dock combo isn't cheap either.
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I think the Tegra 3 will solve this (this thing looks beastly, Lost Planet 2?!) with it's quad core muscle.
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See the thing is, when tegra 3 comes along, there will be another processor that obliterates it. so you just gotta take the plunge and enjoy what u have for now. or wait forever, lol
Windows 8 won't be released until next year, at the earliest.
Tegra 3 is sampling this month, meaning production runs and first consumer units probably wont hit the market until december, if that.
Obselete is a very strong word that's being bastardized.
My dual Pentium 2 setup is obsolete. My Core 2 Duo chip is not.
its hard to keep up with the newest and baddest, but i say as long you pick something that will fill YOUR needs, and gives you a good usage, then your fine.
Then , when your ready to upgrade, you look into what fits your needs at that time.
so yes, the tegra can easily be obselete soon, but is honeycomb? ASus? what about XDA development? 3.1 may not be the end for the TF..
You will never win this war...
If you wait and get a Tegra 3 device, 4-5 months later you will be reading about the Tegra 4 devices coming Fall of 2012. If you like the TF and it meets your current needs then stay with it
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$700 for a 32gb, keyboard dock combo isn't cheap either.
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You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
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You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
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That's not how we do things, have get the biggest and the baddest!
JK...that is definitely an option.
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You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
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This.
Personally i bought the TF for the tablet form.
I have a laptop, a netbook, and desktop at home.
for 700 you could easily find a netbook with more power ..
plus for me:
When the next tablet comes out, you can sell your TF (which is why you want to skin it, cover it, etc) and put that money towards the newest tab out there.
recycling!
echomatics said:
You will never win this war...
If you wait and get a Tegra 3 device, 4-5 months later you will be reading about the Tegra 4 devices coming Fall of 2012. If you like the TF and it meets your current needs then stay with it
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true tht
buyin electronics is a war you can't win...maybe if u have tons of cash to throw then knock urself out lol
dont worry be happy...with ur transformer
turbulent28 said:
This.
Personally i bought the TF for the tablet form.
I have a laptop, a netbook, and desktop at home.
for 700 you could easily find a netbook with more power ..
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You guys are all right, I'm taking the plunge again.
FYI - I do have a netbook/ultraportable with a lot more power. HP Dv2z that had a dual core AMD Neo X2 and Radeon with 512mb (NOT integrated). Bought it two years ago, one of the best hardware purchases I've made. The thing runs CODMW2 and SC2 no sweat. Pretty beastly for something so small.
Sorry I posted this....I was wrong.
Group hug everyone.
Now off for the hunt to find a TF.
It doesn't really matter. Right now there are only a handful of apps that make use of Tegra 2. By the time Tegra 4 comes out, there will probably be a healthy amount of Tegra 2 apps and 4 or 5 Tegra 4 apps. You are pretty much paying a big premium to play a couple of crappy games.
ASUS promised the dock would be compatible with future tablets and that alone is a smart move. I love the TF and it does what I need it to do, hardware-wise. The software is still suffering from a lot of issues but they will disappear soon. If you buy a tech device you have to be aware that the moment you turn it on it's not the newest on the market anymore.
Welcome to the world of Technology....where things are obsolete before you even take it out of the box pretty much.
Newer are not always better. Just get what you need to meet your needs and go from there. If it fulfills them keep it.
Simple as that really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o
I got mine just to play with Android programming (I am a .Net guy). For 400 bucks is worth it.
Everything is always obsolete when it gets released. Otherwise, everybody would have the same stuff fro 30 years and no company would stay in business.
weak video capabilities? I was worried about the limitations of the tegra 2 processor, however got used to transcoding my videos and it makes no sense to put a 6 or 7 gb video on a portable device. After transcoding my films they are a Max of 2 gb and normally closer to 1 gb and the quality is excellent.
Would I wait for a tegra 3 device? Nope firstly because they will probably end up being delayed so you will end up waiting months longer than you like. Plus the core capabilities will always work on the transformer - web browsing, playing music, video playback (I would always transcode my videos now to save on space), gaming, reading books and now mags with zinio. Plus you can always pop it on ebay.
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If you buy a tech device you have to be aware that the moment you turn it on it's not the newest on the market anymore.
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4D TV ??
You bought the Wrong TV sillyhead
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Now that it's been said that Asus will be coming out with some Tegra 3 tablets this year, should I wait on buying the Transformer and wait for a Tegra 3 Transformer?
With all the problems of the TF101, it sounds more and more like "wait till the end of the year" when the Tegra 3 stuff will be out (and one can actually get a Transformer (Tegra 2) easily...)
if you can wait, then wait. If you must have a tablet now, then get the tf. =)
In a year's time:
With all the problems of the TF201, it sounds more and more like "wait till the end of the year" when the Tegra 4 stuff will be out (and one can actually get a Transformer X (Tegra 3) easily...)
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but yes..if you need a tablet now..get tf
should i buy a 2011 model year car or wait for the 2012s they're right around the corner.. but then the 2013s will be coming in spring of 2012, and from there your just a stretch away from the 2014 models.. hmm
I couldn't wait so I got the transformer.
To be honest if a tegra 3 transformer comes out this holiday season I will prolly end up picking it up. As long as the rumors of both using the dock are true of course.
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I couldn't wait so I got the transformer.
To be honest if a tegra 3 transformer comes out this holiday season I will prolly end up picking it up. As long as the rumors of both using the dock are true of course.
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If its from ASUS and has Transformer in its product name then its confirmed it will utilize a dock, and its been confirmed from ASUS it will utilize the same docking station as the TF101
But I suspect by that time, they will release a new docking station that is slimmer to match suspected slimmer tegra 3 varient.
To stay on topic, buy now if you can, play with it, see if you really need the cpu/gpu capbilities of the Tegra 3 with the apps you are using (I suspect everything will run perfectly fine on the Tegra 2 with the latest OTA, mine does!), then when the Tegra 3 varient comes out, either give your TF to a friend or family member, or sell it on eBay if you want to upgrade!
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If its from ASUS and has Transformer in its product name then its confirmed it will utilize a dock, and its been confirmed from ASUS it will utilize the same docking station as the TF101
But I suspect by that time, they will release a new docking station that is slimmer to match suspected slimmer tegra 3 varient.
To stay on topic, buy now if you can, play with it, see if you really need the cpu/gpu capbilities of the Tegra 3 with the apps you are using (I suspect everything will run perfectly fine on the Tegra 2 with the latest OTA, mine does!), then when the Tegra 3 varient comes out, either give your TF to a friend or family member, or sell it on eBay if you want to upgrade!
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Thats exactly what I am thinking about though. If they make it slimmer, or cut down on some bezel how can the same dock be used? Will it come with an adapter you think? Or if they use a new texture on it. I hope your right though.
I had planned to wait,after all I have a laptop and a rooted nook color so I didn't "need" a new tablet. Having taken the plunge though I can tell you that I'm delighted,Transformer works beautifully and has so much community interest that it will just get better!
Also,there's something quite satisfying about getting newly released products instead of having to wait 6 months.
If you're actually going to use a tablet for anything meaningful to you, that is, anything that makes you more productive or enhances your life in any way, then why would you wait? Besides the fact that you'll be waiting forever for the "best" technology product to be released, you'll also spend months NOT doing the things you'd use a tablet for.
And if you can go months without using a tablet for those things, then why buy one in the first place?
I think you should wait for Tegra 5.
This thing is smooth as butter. No need to wait the future is here.
BUY BUY BUY .... SELL SELL SELL!
Thats just my opinion!
This thing is faaaast. The only issues that are present right now are mostly related to Honeycomb. That should be an easy thing to fix
this tablet is barely even launched. i don't think they're going to whip around with another tablet so fast.
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this tablet is barely even launched. i don't think they're going to whip around with another tablet so fast.
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You never know, they could release the new one and cut the price of the TF101.
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Now that it's been said that Asus will be coming out with some Tegra 3 tablets this year, should I wait on buying the Transformer and wait for a Tegra 3 Transformer?
With all the problems of the TF101, it sounds more and more like "wait till the end of the year" when the Tegra 3 stuff will be out (and one can actually get a Transformer (Tegra 2) easily...)
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Even if --and that is IF-- Tegra 3 is out by the end of this year, manufacturers will still need time to actually make the tablets. (Just like Tegra 2, which was released MUCH earlier than the first mass produced Tegra 2 tablets)
I can tell you right now to just take these ETA's with a grain of salt. They are always at least a month or two behind. (even vaporware sometimes)
Hell, it takes Apple, who has unlimited resources, to make a new version once a year. And they still have shortages...
Remember, you haven't gotten product releases: you are getting product plans. There is a difference between having a product almost done to having one in my mind.
The cheapest thing for Asus to do is to "update" their current line with Tegra 3 so they don't actually have to make a new product. If they're simply "refreshing their line" with Tegra 3, then yes end of year is possible. But, they already bought tons of Tegra 2 chips; I seriously doubt they'd want to peeve their customers by putting in Tegra 3 only a few months after buying a TF. Plus, I still see them trying to get the tablet slimmer and lighter.
I think an end of year date is possible, but I would bet that it takes till at least Feb of 2012 before they come out with a new line of Tegra 3 tablets. (Asus or any other manufacturer)
Get the TF now and see if a tablet is actually useful for you right now. If not, sell it/return it and reevaluate when the T3 tablet is out
akarol said:
I think you should wait for Tegra 5.
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But tegra 6 tablets would be out soon so why?
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But tegra 6 tablets would be out soon so why?
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Tegra 6 has nothing on Tegra 7. Don't waste your money on Tegra 6. Actually, scratch that, Tegra 8 is way better than Tegra 7.
One word. Plastics.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OR Wait for Tegra Three devices?
I would also allow for you to suggest other devices but please only android and please only 10 inch tablets.
Also the new tegra three devices might not be as thin or good-looking as the samsung which i really care about.
The only reason i like tegra is because of the support it has in the android app developing community so please try to keep the suggestions to tegra devices unless you have a good reason to contradict it.
This is simple for me.
If you can wait, wait.
If not go for it.
I couldn't wait
If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol. When Tegra 3 devices come out, Tegra 4 will be announced. I passed on the galaxy tab to wait for a tegra 2 device and now I hear nvidias "Kal-El" quad core. **** it! I'm going for the Gtab!
lol might as well buy the Samsung now and then sell it once the new one you like comes out. But its true, do you really want to keep waiting? Not I, I'm jumping on June 8th.
Personally I would get one now. You can play the waiting game and never get one as there is always a better one around the corner. You can of course wait but I suspect that you won’t see many better or 4 core tablets announced until CES 2012 next year.
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If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol.
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No, if you can wait, it means.... you can wait! I don't know about the rest of you, but I've lived my life just fine without a table. It will be a cool toy to have, but I don't NEED one. Tech gadgets are always progressing, but the tablet market is currently moving at a very fast pace. Tegra 3 is supposed to be out later this year, and is supposed to be 5x the performance. That's a much more significant performance/time ratio than other more "mature" tech products. If you can wait, then there's certainly something to be said for jumping on when the curve flattens out a little. What I do will depend a lot on pricing.
i think it's worth waiting... tegra3 pre production chips allready shipped to manyfacturers, mass production starts around august. motorola and probably asus will be releasing products short after ( promising releases before back-to-school time )
this means that you can, in theory, own a quad core beast in within 3 to 4 months months...
and they are realy fast, throw your pc and your mediaplayers out of the window and start using your tablet instead
perhaps you can invest in a program like best buy's buy back program, so when something new comes out, you can trade in your old and get the new for cheap
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
Take Samsung for example, think of the time and money that has been spent building and promoting their new tablets around the world. I really don't see them coming out with any new tablets at the end of the year even if they had the new teleology. they first need to make a profit.
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
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Asus, Motorola, and Amazon (and probably others) are all rumored to have Tegra 3 tablets by the end of the year. You can't make much money off of the products you currently have on the market if they are obsoleted by new products your competitors are offering.
I'm going to revise my initial answer.
If you're asking the question "Should I wait?". You should wait.
After the iPad released last year, I started trying to imagine, what exactly I would use a tablet for. Once I was a bit settled on what I wanted to do with it, I started looking for something that would match my needs.
When the 10.1v was announced I realised it was a match and I eagerly went after it.
Maybe you should wait until you are certain that the tablet you are buying is a match for your requirements.
I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
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lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-light
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
-brilliant batery (i charge it each night but it only gets down to 30-50% after full day of use)
-netbook replacment (people will argue this but i haven't found a netbook more fun then this, and you can put debian on it )
-casual gaming (not sure of anything on the market you cannotplay onit except porley designed games that are just tiny boxs)
Things it isn't:
-high def cinema (you can run standard def fine and it looks great but if you are obsesd with 720P wait)
-ipad (yer thats a pritty good reason )
-high end device (tegra 2 is fun and all but nexus s still out performes all tegra 2 devices so if you want the bigest and best wait for qualcomm)
In conclusion if you want a great device that doesn't need to be compared to a PC (which i hate that thats were we uave goten in tablets) then go pick one up, but if your after a device that you want to luanch thermal nucular war with wait for qualcomm.
Note: bad spelling is becuase i'm dislexcic(fail i know thats wroung but cannot remember the correct spelling)
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good try with the spelling lol
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I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
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Ahh. You're more into the 30 pin connector then?
I'll stop short of making a crack about the shape of said connector
I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Unfortunately no.
I have the money and the ability to buy the Acer using the $100 gift card and i WILL be buying the Acer tomorrow.
NOTE: I already have a 7" Archos Internet tablet buy am looking to upgrade.
The only question i have is...
A) Do i open the tablet, have fun with it and hope that it will last long enough before the quad core (or more specifically, 7/8" honeycomb) tablets come out?
B) Sell the device on eBay which in turn would net me a profit of £70-80 which i could put towards a newer tablet? (yes i do live in the UK but i am on holiday )
Thanks for any advice that any of you are able to give me.
Mike.
Where is the 'don't bother buying it' option?
Doesn't sound like you want it at all. Save your money for what will really make you happy.
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Where is the 'don't bother buying it' option?
Doesn't sound like you want it at all. Save your money for what will really make you happy.
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I was going to answer this question with somewhat the same answer, but passed on by, as I wouldn't have been as diplomatic as you were gamma. Mine would have included finding a hooker that takes gift cards?!
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I was going to answer this question with somewhat the same answer, but passed on by, as I wouldn't have been as diplomatic as you were gamma. Mine would have included finding a hooker that takes gift cards?!
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XD
It just seems stupid to me to pass up on making £80.
Although this is the tablet that i have been looking at for a while i dont think it would hurt to look at both options.
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XD
It just seems stupid to me to pass up on making £80.
Although this is the tablet that i have been looking at for a while i dont think it would hurt to look at both options.
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As it seems stupid to me to be asking strangers what to do with your money. Get it with your gift card, and put it on eBay and make your profit!
Now you have your answer!
Why not wait for a 2 quad core? Actually, if you just hang in there for a bit more time, you could get a multi-core tablet. In fact, if you wait a few more years, there's no doubt they'll have a quantum core tablet for you.
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Why not wait for a 2 quad core? Actually, if you just hang in there for a bit more time, you could get a multi-core tablet. In fact, if you wait a few more years, there's no doubt they'll have a quantum core tablet for you.
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Thats what's bugging me, im thinking that quad cores will be out by Q1 2012 but i will benefit by waiting for more of them (just look at dual core)
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Thats what's bugging me, im thinking that quad cores will be out by Q1 2012 but i will benefit by waiting for more of them (just look at dual core)
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lol, he was being sarcastic.
Anyway, you can't play the waiting game forever. Who knows what will be coming up after Quad Core tablets. For all you now, 6 core ones will be coming in Summer of 2012, then you'll want to wait on those. Impulse buying is never a good thing, but waiting and waiting isn't either. You have to take the plunge at some point.
I'm assuming you're buying the tablet in the U.S in order to turn that kind of profit in the U.K. But will you be turning a profit? I mean - what if you decide you DO want something before the quad cores come? That would mean you'll have to shell out MORE for another A500 or something else, since they are all more expensive there.
My advice would be to just pick carefully now - or decide definitively to wait for a quad core solution and stick with that decision. It's not worth it to get it now and then sell it for £80 profit, because that £80 is going to be eaten up once you decide you want something before the quad cores come.
Good Luck.
I'm glad someone picked up on my sarcasm.
My brother in law 2 months ago bought 2 transformers (1 for him and one for his dad). I just told him about the $100 off thing at home depot and he said "so?" To him, there's nothing to regret. He couldn't have known back then. He was ready back then to buy the tablets. He made the decision to buy them and that's final.
As was mentioned, impulse buying isn't a good thing. But if you want to wait for the next latest and greatest, you will always be waiting. Forget quad core. My whole family consist of engineers. I am friends with many people who work in the industry. I have been assured on good authority that if you're willing to wait just a few more years you will be able to buy quantum core computers and tablets. In fact, if you just wait a few more years, you will be able to get tablets with screens made from graphene, the strongest transparent material known to science at this time. It's also the most conductive material, so that computers and tablets will be much much thinner. I'm talking about paper thin.
If you can, you should wait a few more years after that. I'm sure by then someone will have come up with tablets that have neural interface so that you can just think it and the tablet pc will do it without you using on screen keyboard.
You get the point.
If you're ready to get a tablet now, then go for it. It makes sense to wait a month or so if you know for sure what you want will be coming like next month. But waiting on the rumor and the chance that the next latest and greatest will be here in a year... or two years... you can keep waiting if you want. Don't let me stop you. But to me, that's a boring life.
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Besides, this isn't the dark ages where you got a sword and that sword will last you the next 50 years. We now live in a day and age when everything is disposable. Even my house is disposable, meaning I can sell it if I need to. I'm not one of those people that pursue the latest and greatest. One of my computers lasted me for nearly 10 years. It's just nowadays it doesn't make sense to spend the time to wait for a pentium 3 or pentium 4 to perform a certain process on windows xp when I can spend a mere $300 for something that's 100 times faster.
I'm still using dvd's. I absolutely refuse to switch to blueray. I think they are overpriced. The differences just don't bother me, and I have watched them on the latest and greatest tv's nowadays.
I was using an Archos 101 when I heard about the a500. I took the plunge. I preordered it and when it finally arrived almost a month later, I handed the Archos to the wife and never looked back.
Sure, it's an upgrade (a major upgrade) so it integrated into my already acclimated tablet lifestyle.
For the price point, it worked for me and with the TF vs Acer arguments already heated (by the time I got mine) it really was just a question of, you know what? I'm keeping it. I want it, I can definitely use it and I'll keep using until it dies - at which point, I'll get the next 'whatever' version.
Normally I would say go for it, but in this ecosystem its different. You can have all the cores you want, but if there is no underlying OS or apps that utilize them to their full potential, its a waste. In the end you're hoping something awesome comes out that will harness all that power, and eventually something will. Hopefully its sooner rather than later, because you are at the mercy of the manufacturer to continue to support the product. You have the dev community there to, who do great work, but most of them don't have the time to dissassemble/reassemble the code for drivers, so you end up with certain functions not working as they should when you try and load an OS that is not officially supported.
Case in point, the Motorla Atrix, which I drooled over for quite some time, is just now getting Gingerbread. I'm thinking full hardware acceleration for phones won't be in place until Ice Cream, which is fine as long as Moto contintues to support the product. I think Google is trying to clean that up a bit by asking OEMs to make a pledge to support their product for a minimum length of time (18months?). In my opinion, its best to go with something that is very similar to the lead product..in this case, the Xoom. So...anything with a Tegra 250. Unless you are beyond the halfway point between lead device launches, in which case it might be wiser to wait for that device to launch or the specs for it to leak.
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I'm glad someone picked up on my sarcasm.
My brother in law 2 months ago bought 2 transformers (1 for him and one for his dad). I just told him about the $100 off thing at home depot and he said "so?" To him, there's nothing to regret. He couldn't have known back then. He was ready back then to buy the tablets. He made the decision to buy them and that's final.
As was mentioned, impulse buying isn't a good thing. But if you want to wait for the next latest and greatest, you will always be waiting. Forget quad core. My whole family consist of engineers. I am friends with many people who work in the industry. I have been assured on good authority that if you're willing to wait just a few more years you will be able to buy quantum core computers and tablets. In fact, if you just wait a few more years, you will be able to get tablets with screens made from graphene, the strongest transparent material known to science at this time. It's also the most conductive material, so that computers and tablets will be much much thinner. I'm talking about paper thin.
If you can, you should wait a few more years after that. I'm sure by then someone will have come up with tablets that have neural interface so that you can just think it and the tablet pc will do it without you using on screen keyboard.
You get the point.
If you're ready to get a tablet now, then go for it. It makes sense to wait a month or so if you know for sure what you want will be coming like next month. But waiting on the rumor and the chance that the next latest and greatest will be here in a year... or two years... you can keep waiting if you want. Don't let me stop you. But to me, that's a boring life.
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Besides, this isn't the dark ages where you got a sword and that sword will last you the next 50 years. We now live in a day and age when everything is disposable. Even my house is disposable, meaning I can sell it if I need to. I'm not one of those people that pursue the latest and greatest. One of my computers lasted me for nearly 10 years. It's just nowadays it doesn't make sense to spend the time to wait for a pentium 3 or pentium 4 to perform a certain process on windows xp when I can spend a mere $300 for something that's 100 times faster.
I'm still using dvd's. I absolutely refuse to switch to blueray. I think they are overpriced. The differences just don't bother me, and I have watched them on the latest and greatest tv's nowadays.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. In my younger days I fell into that trap & finally came to my senses.
Why not save the hassle and just sell the gift card?
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http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoyke/2011/07/29/asus-preparing-second-transformer-tablet/
At first, I was a little mad at this, my Transformer just arrived in the mail today and the first website I went to on my new TF was engadget.com and I saw this headline.
Then, I realized that I probably won't even need a quad core tablet for another couple of years considering that there are only a handful of apps that take advantage of Tegra 2.
Yeah I went into the tablet game knowing full well it would be outdated very quickly. I judged my opinion on my purchase solely based on the streamline performance I saw from the models already available at the time, the xoom, and decided it was going to be enough power for me for a while. But deep down inside it does get to you when you see something newer come out a quarter later!
I also heard today that the price of the Asus Transformer is going to drop on the middle of this month, but they didn't give a price. A reaction to Acer Iconia dropping to $398.
I think that the new screens on the next generation of tablets will be really expensive since they will be 2048x1500 or there abouts.
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I guess I'll wait untill after the quad-core gen, I guess that's gonna be next year...
I wonder what will be next after the quads?
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I guess I'll wait untill after the quad-core gen, I guess that's gonna be next year...
I wonder what will be next after the quads?
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more silly performances...
There is this assumption that there really isnt any point of quad cores as Apps arent optimised for them yet.
However, honeycomb itself was designed with multicore processors in mind. Single threaded apps can take advantage of multicore processors by running the app on one core, and other OS services on the other cores.
Even the most basic of tasks can benefit like browsing and gaming.The OS itself can benefit from quad core.
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http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoyke/2011/07/29/asus-preparing-second-transformer-tablet/
At first, I was a little mad at this, my Transformer just arrived in the mail today and the first website I went to on my new TF was engadget.com and I saw this headline.
Then, I realized that I probably won't even need a quad core tablet for another couple of years considering that there are only a handful of apps that take advantage of Tegra 2.
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They are just playing the same game as Apple, updating their product on a yearly refresh cycle.
I won't be updating from Transformer to Transformer 2. I'm very happy with my purchase, and nothing will change that. A few years down the road I may repurchase.
I only hope that Asus don't withhold Android ICS from Transformer to give the Transformer 2 a market advantage (it already has one in it's hardware spec).
I have spent the last 2 weeks trying to decide what android tablet to purchase. I have narrowed my decision between the TF and the GT10.1. I was gonna make my purchase in a week or so, but now, I dont know?! Maybe I should buy one at BB and get the buy back program for it. Damn....
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I have spent the last 2 weeks trying to decide what android tablet to purchase. I have narrowed my decision between the TF and the GT10.1. I was gonna make my purchase in a week or so, but now, I dont know?! Maybe I should buy one at BB and get the buy back program for it. Damn....
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I'd rather have a 3.2 update with no bugs, TBH.
I don't buy this october release date. it makes no sense to put out a new device so early when TF1 sales are rising not falling away. surely asus would want to max out sales of their existing product before launching a successor.
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I don't buy this october release date. it makes no sense to put out a new device so early when TF1 sales are rising not falling away. surely asus would want to max out sales of their existing product before launching a successor.
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After October is December and Christmas;P, so this is a very good time for a new flagship product.
oh and one more thing, If Asus doesn't do this, then another company will. Kal-el is ready, so it is, a matter of time.
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Kal-el is ready, so it is, a matter of time.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I just read a story yesterday (I'll see if I can find the link) saying that the chip will not ship in quantity until 2012.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I just read a story yesterday (I'll see if I can find the link) saying that the chip will not ship in quantity until 2012.
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Please do find it, I'm sat here wanting to order a GTab but am put off by the "Quad Core is almost here" rumours.
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Please do find it, I'm sat here wanting to order a GTab but am put off by the "Quad Core is almost here" rumours.
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I can tell You that Kal-el is ready but creating a tablet with this processor is another and long story.
Oh and i cant tell Y why i know about Kal-el
Greets
I could easily see them selling both the TF and the TF 2 at the same time, just at a lower pricepoint for the TF and a higher price point for the TF 2. It might be that by the time the TF 2 comes out, component costs will have dropped on the TF and they could price it at, say, $349/$449 retail, and then the TF 2 at $449/$549.
That's just idle speculation, of course, but it makes sense to me, particularly if the specs on the TF 2 are crazy good, which I expect them to be.
IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
Digiguest said:
IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
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not true ..... if You look into the future, this is the best chocie but it's true that will always be something new and better ... This is the IT world
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IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
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Why? Wouldn't you prefer it if your browser typing had less lag, and the app your were running was not effected by other tasks such as feed updates, etc. More cores impacts both the base OS and apps.
Your Android device WILL BE outdated in 3 months, maximum 6 months no matter what you buy.
I am happy as long as I get the Ice Cream Sandwich running smoothly later this year.
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Why? Wouldn't you prefer it if your browser typing had less lag, and the app your were running was not effected by other tasks such as feed updates, etc. More cores impacts both the base OS and apps.
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This is the same thing ppl said when the tegra2 was announced. The fact is that honeycomb itself is not mature yet.
I agree with the post above saying quad core is useless. It is useless for the time being cause, while the hw techs is advancing at great speed, the software is still lagging behind. why have a quad core when clearly we do not have many tablet applications? i am not talking about the recent api changes in 3.2 so that apps can be stretched... i am talking about special apps made for tablet only. why improve the hw when there is still way to improve in the sw?
browser typing is clearly a bug in the codes. we do not need to get 4 cores to get rid of it. browser typing lag is something we shouldnt be experiencing even in a single core. quad cores coming out in october is quite outrageous especially for us ( living in europe) . i for one, paid approx 450 euros 2 weeks ago for the TF only (without the dock).
Hey guys, the Prime specs have just been released, is anyone contemplating getting the Prime? Asus has so far has a good track record with updates and also the Prime is going to be getting ICS. Will you be keeping your Xoom? Or will you be trading it in for the new quad-core tablet? I love my Xoom and it will only get better with the ICS update and the source released so the devs will truly be able to do their magic but, the Prime looks pretty good and its tempting seeing as it lines up with Christmas.
Link for the specs.
I personally will be holding onto the Xoom until further notice. The Prime is only the first of many quad core tablets lined up for release, like how the Xoom was for Honeycomb. I am a hardcore Droid fan since the launch of the OG Droid, thus I will get a quad core tablet when Motorola launches theirs. I have been waiting very patiently for a quad core tablet since late last year, and I can hold out awhile longer knowing the great ones are on their way.
As tempting as the Prime is, I can control the urge to buy. The Xoom can be overclocked quite high without terrible loss in battery life, and it zips along with great speed. No worries for me!
I need Verizon LTE so no upgrade for me until a quad core LTE table launches.
Holding out for something better. I want to see more ram in the two to four GB range and a higher definition screen .
these arguments are exactly what is kind of preventing me from getting a prime. Also the fact that development will be slow and that the full potential of the prime may not be unlocked until other tabs pop up later... Also in the games arena, tegra3 dedicated games may not come out for a while if at all? so just cuz you have a quad core, you may still only get the same user defined power as our xoom (not sure on that this is my own assumption at present)
Well it looks like my xoom is going to be like my alienware m9700. Old as dust and still kicking butt! I just don't see enough of a performance jump in the tegra 3. Shadowgun plays just as smooth on the xoom, so do videos. I want to see a tablet that supports USB burners, hdd, printers, and everything else my laptop does. Without a damn keyboard!!! I can do everything with my xoom except burn dvd's.
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i'll use my Xoom until it can't perform as good as I need it too..
I am not doing anything massive with my Xoom so I imagine it will be kicking along until Android x.x won't install on it anymore.
I'm finding it hard to resist the Prime tbh. I'm a bit of a gadget freak and I really like the look of the Prime. That said, I'm sure my Mrs would go ballistic if I bought another tablet before I'd had the Xoom even a year...!
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... I'm sure my Mrs would go ballistic if I bought another tablet before I'd had the Xoom even a year...!
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I'd go ballistic, if I had to justify what I spend my money on
BTT:
Well, I never liked Asus-products' look and feel (lol @ the transformer) and I can't think of a real benefit right NOW. So I'll wait for something "better" ...
NO LTE, no Tablet for me
I love the specs on the Prime. It's like a Xoom only better in just about every way (not to say that I don't already love my Xoom) but until they make a LTE version I won't be buying. I am not going to hassle with Tethering or have to wait until I have Wi-Fi. When I really use my tablet is when I am not at home or not at work and often traveling.
I would love the faster Browsing speed though, Quad Core with LTE = kick butt browsing.
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The Asus Prime is very competitively priced. It's actually the same price as the first TF 32GB when it was announced, and it'll probably be lower than the Xoom2 10" at 32GB. A little surprising for Asus, who were positioning themselves as a premium brand. Then again, it's hard to buck the $500 ceiling set by the iPad.
Nice to see the price competition. Although personally I'm not a fan of the hybrid package, and the Prime's ergonomics is wanting. But it looks great, which is what matters.
I'd like to see performance benchmarks vs OMAP4, and also the rooting issue. Some of the Asus TF B70 stepping models (going back since August) still haven't been rooted.
>I would love the faster Browsing speed though, Quad Core with LTE = kick butt browsing.
If you need a quad to web browse, then the problem is the OS & software, which for Android at the moment is still kind of true.
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The Asus Prime is very competitively priced. It's actually the same price as the first TF 32GB when it was announced, and it'll probably be lower than the Xoom2 10" at 32GB. A little surprising for Asus, who were positioning themselves as a premium brand. Then again, it's hard to buck the $500 ceiling set by the iPad.
Nice to see the price competition. Although personally I'm not a fan of the hybrid package, and the Prime's ergonomics is wanting. But it looks great, which is what matters.
I'd like to see performance benchmarks vs OMAP4, and also the rooting issue. Some of the Asus TF B70 stepping models (going back since August) still haven't been rooted.
>I would love the faster Browsing speed though, Quad Core with LTE = kick butt browsing.
If you need a quad to web browse, then the problem is the OS & software, which for Android at the moment is still kind of true.
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This is so true, a single core @ 1ghz should be more than enough for basic trivial tasks.
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Hey guys, the Prime specs have just been released, is anyone contemplating getting the Prime? Asus has so far has a good track record with updates and also the Prime is going to be getting ICS. Will you be keeping your Xoom? Or will you be trading it in for the new quad-core tablet? I love my Xoom and it will only get better with the ICS update and the source released so the devs will truly be able to do their magic but, the Prime looks pretty good and its tempting seeing as it lines up with Christmas.
Link for the specs.
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I'm thinking about giving the Xoom to my daughter or wife and getting the Prime.
The Xoom 2 looks a little uninteresting ....
(it's not about the quad-core, I rarely need duo-core)
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I'm thinking about giving the Xoom to my daughter or wife and getting the Prime.
The Xoom 2 looks a little uninteresting ....
(it's not about the quad-core, I rarely need duo-core)
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Hey, that's a good idea. The Mrs might not be so angry if I give her the Xoom. Although... just thinking here... she'll probably make the argument that she should have the lighter of the two. Hmm. This will require some thought.
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Hey, that's a good idea. The Mrs might not be so angry if I give her the Xoom. Although... just thinking here... she'll probably make the argument that she should have the lighter of the two. Hmm. This will require some thought.
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Lol think again...wives are pissed when they get the hand me down and you get the hot new ****! She will want to know why she doesn't get the new tablet since you already have the Xoom!
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Lol think again...wives are pissed when they get the hand me down and you get the hot new ****! She will want to know why she doesn't get the new tablet since you already have the Xoom!
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Simple answer though... because I'm paying for it.
Now... whether that would work...?
I about to sell my xoom, and waiting for Prime. But then, i -rethinking that i bought my xoom for $530.If i want sell it now, i would lose around $200. It's not worth. So i guess i keep my xoom, waiting for ICS. And i'll buy a new Window 8 tablet.
I hope Tegra 3 can play any video you throw at it without the need to convert. It may be worth to upgrade to one if I have the money to do so.
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Lol think again...wives are pissed when they get the hand me down and you get the hot new ****! She will want to know why she doesn't get the new tablet since you already have the Xoom!
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My wife is always quite happy to get my tech hand me downs. Especially since they're usually about 6 months old and like new.
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Kippui said:
I hope Tegra 3 can play any video you throw at it without the need to convert. It may be worth to upgrade to one if I have the money to do so.
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That's one of the reasons I'm considering the Prime.
I assume you're talking about hi-res and not just file format? MX Player Pro's codec package will play about any file format on my Xoom without the need to convert.
But the Xoom doesn't have enough power to play hi-res MOV's. Maybe the Tegra 3 will .... we'll see.
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I hope Tegra 3 can play any video you throw at it without the need to convert. It may be worth to upgrade to one if I have the money to do so.
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Have you tried Dice Player? I just watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes in high Res 720p without any problems.
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