I have the money and the ability to buy the Acer using the $100 gift card and i WILL be buying the Acer tomorrow.
NOTE: I already have a 7" Archos Internet tablet buy am looking to upgrade.
The only question i have is...
A) Do i open the tablet, have fun with it and hope that it will last long enough before the quad core (or more specifically, 7/8" honeycomb) tablets come out?
B) Sell the device on eBay which in turn would net me a profit of £70-80 which i could put towards a newer tablet? (yes i do live in the UK but i am on holiday )
Thanks for any advice that any of you are able to give me.
Mike.
Where is the 'don't bother buying it' option?
Doesn't sound like you want it at all. Save your money for what will really make you happy.
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Where is the 'don't bother buying it' option?
Doesn't sound like you want it at all. Save your money for what will really make you happy.
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I was going to answer this question with somewhat the same answer, but passed on by, as I wouldn't have been as diplomatic as you were gamma. Mine would have included finding a hooker that takes gift cards?!
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I was going to answer this question with somewhat the same answer, but passed on by, as I wouldn't have been as diplomatic as you were gamma. Mine would have included finding a hooker that takes gift cards?!
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It just seems stupid to me to pass up on making £80.
Although this is the tablet that i have been looking at for a while i dont think it would hurt to look at both options.
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It just seems stupid to me to pass up on making £80.
Although this is the tablet that i have been looking at for a while i dont think it would hurt to look at both options.
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As it seems stupid to me to be asking strangers what to do with your money. Get it with your gift card, and put it on eBay and make your profit!
Now you have your answer!
Why not wait for a 2 quad core? Actually, if you just hang in there for a bit more time, you could get a multi-core tablet. In fact, if you wait a few more years, there's no doubt they'll have a quantum core tablet for you.
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Why not wait for a 2 quad core? Actually, if you just hang in there for a bit more time, you could get a multi-core tablet. In fact, if you wait a few more years, there's no doubt they'll have a quantum core tablet for you.
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Thats what's bugging me, im thinking that quad cores will be out by Q1 2012 but i will benefit by waiting for more of them (just look at dual core)
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Thats what's bugging me, im thinking that quad cores will be out by Q1 2012 but i will benefit by waiting for more of them (just look at dual core)
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lol, he was being sarcastic.
Anyway, you can't play the waiting game forever. Who knows what will be coming up after Quad Core tablets. For all you now, 6 core ones will be coming in Summer of 2012, then you'll want to wait on those. Impulse buying is never a good thing, but waiting and waiting isn't either. You have to take the plunge at some point.
I'm assuming you're buying the tablet in the U.S in order to turn that kind of profit in the U.K. But will you be turning a profit? I mean - what if you decide you DO want something before the quad cores come? That would mean you'll have to shell out MORE for another A500 or something else, since they are all more expensive there.
My advice would be to just pick carefully now - or decide definitively to wait for a quad core solution and stick with that decision. It's not worth it to get it now and then sell it for £80 profit, because that £80 is going to be eaten up once you decide you want something before the quad cores come.
Good Luck.
I'm glad someone picked up on my sarcasm.
My brother in law 2 months ago bought 2 transformers (1 for him and one for his dad). I just told him about the $100 off thing at home depot and he said "so?" To him, there's nothing to regret. He couldn't have known back then. He was ready back then to buy the tablets. He made the decision to buy them and that's final.
As was mentioned, impulse buying isn't a good thing. But if you want to wait for the next latest and greatest, you will always be waiting. Forget quad core. My whole family consist of engineers. I am friends with many people who work in the industry. I have been assured on good authority that if you're willing to wait just a few more years you will be able to buy quantum core computers and tablets. In fact, if you just wait a few more years, you will be able to get tablets with screens made from graphene, the strongest transparent material known to science at this time. It's also the most conductive material, so that computers and tablets will be much much thinner. I'm talking about paper thin.
If you can, you should wait a few more years after that. I'm sure by then someone will have come up with tablets that have neural interface so that you can just think it and the tablet pc will do it without you using on screen keyboard.
You get the point.
If you're ready to get a tablet now, then go for it. It makes sense to wait a month or so if you know for sure what you want will be coming like next month. But waiting on the rumor and the chance that the next latest and greatest will be here in a year... or two years... you can keep waiting if you want. Don't let me stop you. But to me, that's a boring life.
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Besides, this isn't the dark ages where you got a sword and that sword will last you the next 50 years. We now live in a day and age when everything is disposable. Even my house is disposable, meaning I can sell it if I need to. I'm not one of those people that pursue the latest and greatest. One of my computers lasted me for nearly 10 years. It's just nowadays it doesn't make sense to spend the time to wait for a pentium 3 or pentium 4 to perform a certain process on windows xp when I can spend a mere $300 for something that's 100 times faster.
I'm still using dvd's. I absolutely refuse to switch to blueray. I think they are overpriced. The differences just don't bother me, and I have watched them on the latest and greatest tv's nowadays.
I was using an Archos 101 when I heard about the a500. I took the plunge. I preordered it and when it finally arrived almost a month later, I handed the Archos to the wife and never looked back.
Sure, it's an upgrade (a major upgrade) so it integrated into my already acclimated tablet lifestyle.
For the price point, it worked for me and with the TF vs Acer arguments already heated (by the time I got mine) it really was just a question of, you know what? I'm keeping it. I want it, I can definitely use it and I'll keep using until it dies - at which point, I'll get the next 'whatever' version.
Normally I would say go for it, but in this ecosystem its different. You can have all the cores you want, but if there is no underlying OS or apps that utilize them to their full potential, its a waste. In the end you're hoping something awesome comes out that will harness all that power, and eventually something will. Hopefully its sooner rather than later, because you are at the mercy of the manufacturer to continue to support the product. You have the dev community there to, who do great work, but most of them don't have the time to dissassemble/reassemble the code for drivers, so you end up with certain functions not working as they should when you try and load an OS that is not officially supported.
Case in point, the Motorla Atrix, which I drooled over for quite some time, is just now getting Gingerbread. I'm thinking full hardware acceleration for phones won't be in place until Ice Cream, which is fine as long as Moto contintues to support the product. I think Google is trying to clean that up a bit by asking OEMs to make a pledge to support their product for a minimum length of time (18months?). In my opinion, its best to go with something that is very similar to the lead product..in this case, the Xoom. So...anything with a Tegra 250. Unless you are beyond the halfway point between lead device launches, in which case it might be wiser to wait for that device to launch or the specs for it to leak.
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I'm glad someone picked up on my sarcasm.
My brother in law 2 months ago bought 2 transformers (1 for him and one for his dad). I just told him about the $100 off thing at home depot and he said "so?" To him, there's nothing to regret. He couldn't have known back then. He was ready back then to buy the tablets. He made the decision to buy them and that's final.
As was mentioned, impulse buying isn't a good thing. But if you want to wait for the next latest and greatest, you will always be waiting. Forget quad core. My whole family consist of engineers. I am friends with many people who work in the industry. I have been assured on good authority that if you're willing to wait just a few more years you will be able to buy quantum core computers and tablets. In fact, if you just wait a few more years, you will be able to get tablets with screens made from graphene, the strongest transparent material known to science at this time. It's also the most conductive material, so that computers and tablets will be much much thinner. I'm talking about paper thin.
If you can, you should wait a few more years after that. I'm sure by then someone will have come up with tablets that have neural interface so that you can just think it and the tablet pc will do it without you using on screen keyboard.
You get the point.
If you're ready to get a tablet now, then go for it. It makes sense to wait a month or so if you know for sure what you want will be coming like next month. But waiting on the rumor and the chance that the next latest and greatest will be here in a year... or two years... you can keep waiting if you want. Don't let me stop you. But to me, that's a boring life.
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Besides, this isn't the dark ages where you got a sword and that sword will last you the next 50 years. We now live in a day and age when everything is disposable. Even my house is disposable, meaning I can sell it if I need to. I'm not one of those people that pursue the latest and greatest. One of my computers lasted me for nearly 10 years. It's just nowadays it doesn't make sense to spend the time to wait for a pentium 3 or pentium 4 to perform a certain process on windows xp when I can spend a mere $300 for something that's 100 times faster.
I'm still using dvd's. I absolutely refuse to switch to blueray. I think they are overpriced. The differences just don't bother me, and I have watched them on the latest and greatest tv's nowadays.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. In my younger days I fell into that trap & finally came to my senses.
Why not save the hassle and just sell the gift card?
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Im getting my N1 tommorow, and I feel like regretting it for some reason.. not for "some reason".. just because I feel like it will be old soon.. and after I just got it..
When will our beloved Snapdragon device finnaly become nothing? If there planning on releasing a 2GHz processor for our phones soon, i'd say maybe next year. Though hopefully not..
Other than that, this phone seems to have an incredible lifespan.. the only way I could see a better Android phone coming out is that it has a better processor (as stated above). Or more RAM, of course.. which has already been done.
Really, I just need some reassuring that such a costly device isnt thrown in the garbage simply after a few months. My mommy didn't want to get this for me as is =/
Alas, there is no way to cease innovation.
The hardware on this device is underutilized. The nexus is the snappiest phone out there. With the g1 and mytouch I could feel the lag, but on the nexus the nexus the UI is snappy, I don't know if I need a device faster than the nexus. If Google addresses the software issues I think this phone can become noticeably smoother and better in so many areas. With adequate attention from android this phone can be relevant for years. I think video calls will become pretty standard as will much better camera hardware and that will eventually put the nexus towards the back of the 'superphone' pack. The nexus camera is disappointing but from what I understand it can vastly improve with software updates.
Basically the phone is performing below its capabilities which is exciting but also disconcerting in that there is no dependable indication that Google will address the minor and major issues that make the nexus somewhat disappointing. Only time will tell, the potential is there, we just need to motivate Google.
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Im getting my N1 tommorow, and I feel like regretting it for some reason.. not for "some reason".. just because I feel like it will be old soon.. and after I just got it..
When will our beloved Snapdragon device finnaly become nothing? If there planning on releasing a 2GHz processor for our phones soon, i'd say maybe next year. Though hopefully not..
Other than that, this phone seems to have an incredible lifespan.. the only way I could see a better Android phone coming out is that it has a better processor (as stated above). Or more RAM, of course.. which has already been done.
Really, I just need some reassuring that such a costly device isnt thrown in the garbage simply after a few months. My mommy didn't want to get this for me as is =/
Alas, there is no way to cease innovation.
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Who cares?
Resell for $300-$400 and buy the next phone from www.google.com/phone unlocked and off-contract and BAM, back in business.
Google selling phones off-contract = most awesome thing ever. It's sure to shake up the US mobile industry.
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Who cares?
Resell for $300-$400 and buy the next phone from www.google.com/phone unlocked and off-contract and BAM, back in business.
Google selling phones off-contract = most awesome thing ever. It's sure to shake up the US mobile industry.
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I didn't know/think someone would buy the phone for such a price with it being outdated at the time of selling. Guess it doesn't matter though, I will use your advice.
And thanks for the thorough post Maverick, your typing did not go to waste - I read it all. Didn't know the Nexus was performing under expectations - or not being fully utilized. Quite exciting, actually. Can't wait to see what the future holds for this device.
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I didn't know/think someone would buy the phove for such a price with it being outdated at the time of selling. Guess it doesn't matter though, I will use your advice.
And thanks for the thorough post Maverick, your typing did not go to waste - I read it all. Didn't know the Nexus was performing under expectations. Quite exciting, actually.
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Oh trust me, people are definitely willing. Especially people that don't follow tech news.... Muwhahahahah!
Case in point, I sold my G1 last month for $160. I posted on here about it and others said they sold it for $200+. The kicker is that I got mine for $99 on Amazon, so after using it for 10 months, I even made a profit
Considering here in Australia, the best android phone you can get is a Hero, my nexus one is going to be top of the pack for some time, the best thing that has been annouced here will be the desire in april. But the specs are nearly similar, and there are pros and cons to sense UI.
This phone will last a while if it is properly supported by android updates.
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Oh trust me, people are definitely willing. Especially people that don't follow tech news.... Muwhahahahah!
Case in point, I sold my G1 last month for $160. I posted on here about it and others said they sold it for $200+. The kicker is that I got mine for $99 on Amazon, so after using it for 10 months, I even made a profit
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Paid 50 for my G1 because some stupid guy at work thought that he liked his shadow much better, in January of 2009. Sold my G1 for 200 on craigslist February 17th, made huge profit. Too many ill informed individuals to take advantage of...... I guess it works for me.
That is all actually interesting! As a matter of fact, I have a G1.. I didn't think if selling it for 200$ or more though. I couldn't anyways, its in mint condition.. but I broke the screen. While it is still usable, I doubt anyone would want it. I'll just sell it cheap, lol.
Taking advantage of the not tech savy people, a new way for me to make profit I see.. niceeee...
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That is all actually interesting! As a matter of fact, I have a G1.. I didn't think if selling it for 200$ or more though. I couldn't anyways, its in mint condition.. but I broke the screen. While it is still usable, I doubt anyone would want it. I'll just sell it cheap, lol.
Taking advantage of the not tech savy people, a new way for me to make profit I see.. niceeee...
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Protect your screen! With a screen protector ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618006 ) or a case! My G1 was in 99% perfect condition when I sold it (I dropped it once and the corner was a bit gummed up).
A few bucks on either yields a few hundred when it's time to sell. Worth it, isn't it?
You know what the sad thing is.. I have a case, the perfect case that would've caused the screen not to break.. but I was getting tired of having a case on all the time, and a few weeks, or days, after I removed the case - I dropped the phone face down - and that was the end of it =/ I would've been devastated if I knew I wasn't get my N1 anytime soon.
I learned my lesson though.. the hard way.
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Im getting my N1 tommorow, and I feel like regretting it for some reason.. not for "some reason".. just because I feel like it will be old soon.. and after I just got it..
When will our beloved Snapdragon device finnaly become nothing? If there planning on releasing a 2GHz processor for our phones soon, i'd say maybe next year. Though hopefully not..
Ot]
Alas, there is no way to cease innovation.
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tomorrow..HTC Supersonic for sprint 4.3 inche screen, 4g ..
man i hope they announce it tomorrow
With the introduction of Windows 8 yesterday and announcement of a Tegra 3 device by the end of the year, are the TF's days numbered?
I had to return my TF thanks to a touch screen failure, still want to get another one but now am having doubts.
Technology is constantly upgrading and if I keep looking over the horizon, I'll never get anything, but it seriously sounds like Tegra 3 is close to coming out. Tegra 2 is actually two year old architecture afterall. I've done this before though, waiting a year for the Adam (which ended up not being too great) then another five months for the Transformer...which is actually pretty awesome.
The biggest issue I have with the TF is its weak video capabilities.
I think the Tegra 3 will solve this (this thing looks beastly, Lost Planet 2?!) with it's quad core muscle.
The end of the year is still six months away. You'll have plenty of time to enjoy your TF. It's not like it's $1000 bucks either.
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The end of the year is still six months away. You'll have plenty of time to enjoy your TF. It's not like it's $1000 bucks either.
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$700 for a 32gb, keyboard dock combo isn't cheap either.
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I think the Tegra 3 will solve this (this thing looks beastly, Lost Planet 2?!) with it's quad core muscle.
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See the thing is, when tegra 3 comes along, there will be another processor that obliterates it. so you just gotta take the plunge and enjoy what u have for now. or wait forever, lol
Windows 8 won't be released until next year, at the earliest.
Tegra 3 is sampling this month, meaning production runs and first consumer units probably wont hit the market until december, if that.
Obselete is a very strong word that's being bastardized.
My dual Pentium 2 setup is obsolete. My Core 2 Duo chip is not.
its hard to keep up with the newest and baddest, but i say as long you pick something that will fill YOUR needs, and gives you a good usage, then your fine.
Then , when your ready to upgrade, you look into what fits your needs at that time.
so yes, the tegra can easily be obselete soon, but is honeycomb? ASus? what about XDA development? 3.1 may not be the end for the TF..
You will never win this war...
If you wait and get a Tegra 3 device, 4-5 months later you will be reading about the Tegra 4 devices coming Fall of 2012. If you like the TF and it meets your current needs then stay with it
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$700 for a 32gb, keyboard dock combo isn't cheap either.
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You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
Ravynmagi said:
You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
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That's not how we do things, have get the biggest and the baddest!
JK...that is definitely an option.
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You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
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This.
Personally i bought the TF for the tablet form.
I have a laptop, a netbook, and desktop at home.
for 700 you could easily find a netbook with more power ..
plus for me:
When the next tablet comes out, you can sell your TF (which is why you want to skin it, cover it, etc) and put that money towards the newest tab out there.
recycling!
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You will never win this war...
If you wait and get a Tegra 3 device, 4-5 months later you will be reading about the Tegra 4 devices coming Fall of 2012. If you like the TF and it meets your current needs then stay with it
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true tht
buyin electronics is a war you can't win...maybe if u have tons of cash to throw then knock urself out lol
dont worry be happy...with ur transformer
turbulent28 said:
This.
Personally i bought the TF for the tablet form.
I have a laptop, a netbook, and desktop at home.
for 700 you could easily find a netbook with more power ..
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You guys are all right, I'm taking the plunge again.
FYI - I do have a netbook/ultraportable with a lot more power. HP Dv2z that had a dual core AMD Neo X2 and Radeon with 512mb (NOT integrated). Bought it two years ago, one of the best hardware purchases I've made. The thing runs CODMW2 and SC2 no sweat. Pretty beastly for something so small.
Sorry I posted this....I was wrong.
Group hug everyone.
Now off for the hunt to find a TF.
It doesn't really matter. Right now there are only a handful of apps that make use of Tegra 2. By the time Tegra 4 comes out, there will probably be a healthy amount of Tegra 2 apps and 4 or 5 Tegra 4 apps. You are pretty much paying a big premium to play a couple of crappy games.
ASUS promised the dock would be compatible with future tablets and that alone is a smart move. I love the TF and it does what I need it to do, hardware-wise. The software is still suffering from a lot of issues but they will disappear soon. If you buy a tech device you have to be aware that the moment you turn it on it's not the newest on the market anymore.
Welcome to the world of Technology....where things are obsolete before you even take it out of the box pretty much.
Newer are not always better. Just get what you need to meet your needs and go from there. If it fulfills them keep it.
Simple as that really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o
I got mine just to play with Android programming (I am a .Net guy). For 400 bucks is worth it.
Everything is always obsolete when it gets released. Otherwise, everybody would have the same stuff fro 30 years and no company would stay in business.
weak video capabilities? I was worried about the limitations of the tegra 2 processor, however got used to transcoding my videos and it makes no sense to put a 6 or 7 gb video on a portable device. After transcoding my films they are a Max of 2 gb and normally closer to 1 gb and the quality is excellent.
Would I wait for a tegra 3 device? Nope firstly because they will probably end up being delayed so you will end up waiting months longer than you like. Plus the core capabilities will always work on the transformer - web browsing, playing music, video playback (I would always transcode my videos now to save on space), gaming, reading books and now mags with zinio. Plus you can always pop it on ebay.
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If you buy a tech device you have to be aware that the moment you turn it on it's not the newest on the market anymore.
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4D TV ??
You bought the Wrong TV sillyhead
http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoyke/2011/07/29/asus-preparing-second-transformer-tablet/
At first, I was a little mad at this, my Transformer just arrived in the mail today and the first website I went to on my new TF was engadget.com and I saw this headline.
Then, I realized that I probably won't even need a quad core tablet for another couple of years considering that there are only a handful of apps that take advantage of Tegra 2.
Yeah I went into the tablet game knowing full well it would be outdated very quickly. I judged my opinion on my purchase solely based on the streamline performance I saw from the models already available at the time, the xoom, and decided it was going to be enough power for me for a while. But deep down inside it does get to you when you see something newer come out a quarter later!
I also heard today that the price of the Asus Transformer is going to drop on the middle of this month, but they didn't give a price. A reaction to Acer Iconia dropping to $398.
I think that the new screens on the next generation of tablets will be really expensive since they will be 2048x1500 or there abouts.
Don
I guess I'll wait untill after the quad-core gen, I guess that's gonna be next year...
I wonder what will be next after the quads?
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I guess I'll wait untill after the quad-core gen, I guess that's gonna be next year...
I wonder what will be next after the quads?
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more silly performances...
There is this assumption that there really isnt any point of quad cores as Apps arent optimised for them yet.
However, honeycomb itself was designed with multicore processors in mind. Single threaded apps can take advantage of multicore processors by running the app on one core, and other OS services on the other cores.
Even the most basic of tasks can benefit like browsing and gaming.The OS itself can benefit from quad core.
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http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoyke/2011/07/29/asus-preparing-second-transformer-tablet/
At first, I was a little mad at this, my Transformer just arrived in the mail today and the first website I went to on my new TF was engadget.com and I saw this headline.
Then, I realized that I probably won't even need a quad core tablet for another couple of years considering that there are only a handful of apps that take advantage of Tegra 2.
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They are just playing the same game as Apple, updating their product on a yearly refresh cycle.
I won't be updating from Transformer to Transformer 2. I'm very happy with my purchase, and nothing will change that. A few years down the road I may repurchase.
I only hope that Asus don't withhold Android ICS from Transformer to give the Transformer 2 a market advantage (it already has one in it's hardware spec).
I have spent the last 2 weeks trying to decide what android tablet to purchase. I have narrowed my decision between the TF and the GT10.1. I was gonna make my purchase in a week or so, but now, I dont know?! Maybe I should buy one at BB and get the buy back program for it. Damn....
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I have spent the last 2 weeks trying to decide what android tablet to purchase. I have narrowed my decision between the TF and the GT10.1. I was gonna make my purchase in a week or so, but now, I dont know?! Maybe I should buy one at BB and get the buy back program for it. Damn....
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I'd rather have a 3.2 update with no bugs, TBH.
I don't buy this october release date. it makes no sense to put out a new device so early when TF1 sales are rising not falling away. surely asus would want to max out sales of their existing product before launching a successor.
alan77ss said:
I don't buy this october release date. it makes no sense to put out a new device so early when TF1 sales are rising not falling away. surely asus would want to max out sales of their existing product before launching a successor.
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After October is December and Christmas;P, so this is a very good time for a new flagship product.
oh and one more thing, If Asus doesn't do this, then another company will. Kal-el is ready, so it is, a matter of time.
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Kal-el is ready, so it is, a matter of time.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I just read a story yesterday (I'll see if I can find the link) saying that the chip will not ship in quantity until 2012.
Underwater Mike said:
I'll believe it when I see it. I just read a story yesterday (I'll see if I can find the link) saying that the chip will not ship in quantity until 2012.
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Please do find it, I'm sat here wanting to order a GTab but am put off by the "Quad Core is almost here" rumours.
UKseagull said:
Please do find it, I'm sat here wanting to order a GTab but am put off by the "Quad Core is almost here" rumours.
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I can tell You that Kal-el is ready but creating a tablet with this processor is another and long story.
Oh and i cant tell Y why i know about Kal-el
Greets
I could easily see them selling both the TF and the TF 2 at the same time, just at a lower pricepoint for the TF and a higher price point for the TF 2. It might be that by the time the TF 2 comes out, component costs will have dropped on the TF and they could price it at, say, $349/$449 retail, and then the TF 2 at $449/$549.
That's just idle speculation, of course, but it makes sense to me, particularly if the specs on the TF 2 are crazy good, which I expect them to be.
IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
Digiguest said:
IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
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not true ..... if You look into the future, this is the best chocie but it's true that will always be something new and better ... This is the IT world
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IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
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Why? Wouldn't you prefer it if your browser typing had less lag, and the app your were running was not effected by other tasks such as feed updates, etc. More cores impacts both the base OS and apps.
Your Android device WILL BE outdated in 3 months, maximum 6 months no matter what you buy.
I am happy as long as I get the Ice Cream Sandwich running smoothly later this year.
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Why? Wouldn't you prefer it if your browser typing had less lag, and the app your were running was not effected by other tasks such as feed updates, etc. More cores impacts both the base OS and apps.
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This is the same thing ppl said when the tegra2 was announced. The fact is that honeycomb itself is not mature yet.
I agree with the post above saying quad core is useless. It is useless for the time being cause, while the hw techs is advancing at great speed, the software is still lagging behind. why have a quad core when clearly we do not have many tablet applications? i am not talking about the recent api changes in 3.2 so that apps can be stretched... i am talking about special apps made for tablet only. why improve the hw when there is still way to improve in the sw?
browser typing is clearly a bug in the codes. we do not need to get 4 cores to get rid of it. browser typing lag is something we shouldnt be experiencing even in a single core. quad cores coming out in october is quite outrageous especially for us ( living in europe) . i for one, paid approx 450 euros 2 weeks ago for the TF only (without the dock).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp6MZupUq78&feature=feedu
is include led flash ICS and more
Nice! I wonder if its time to start looking for a buyer for my TF..
I am a bit disappointed that Google didn't bring an ICS tablet beside the new Nexus..
Dangit. My wife just told me I can get the TF2 if I'll sell my TF now, while it's likely to get the best price. Which I could do, but how long could I live without a tablet? A month? Would I survive?
I'm just not sure. Damn you, Asus!
They were only allowed to release the video after Ics was launched by Sammy last night.
wynand32 said:
Dangit. My wife just told me I can get the TF2 if I'll sell my TF now, while it's likely to get the best price. Which I could do, but how long could I live without a tablet? A month? Would I survive?
I'm just not sure. Damn you, Asus!
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we're all on the same boat. a month without the TF is torture but if it's means getting the TF2 (although it's more expensive) next month, i'll do it.
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Dangit. My wife just told me I can get the TF2 if I'll sell my TF now, while it's likely to get the best price. Which I could do, but how long could I live without a tablet? A month? Would I survive?
I'm just not sure. Damn you, Asus!
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The same here man! Well with this difference I have Ipad2 -
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The same here man! Well with this difference I have Ipad2 -
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Traitor! get out of here
With my electronic fetish I am thinking but
Really it will have to blow me away in what it does compared to my current transformer and keyboard, and if my unit can be updated to ICS they will have to sell me on some real life advantages not benchmark, mine doesn't lag or anything my battery life is superb.
Ah, so it will be a new device, not just updated hardware. If they fix the speaker and make it lighter and thinner, I am so going to get it.
I can always dump my old transformer on my wife.
Seriously, if we can get an ICS update I would probably stick with my TF1 until the TF2 prices dropped in 6 months to a year. I figured out that if I shoot at 1080p24 on my T2i, my TF1 will play the 1080p video. The only other hardware restriction I had was movies. Dice Player handles those nicely and it's only $5 vs $500.
I don't know about you, but dropping $500 on a tablet every year is a little hard to stomach.
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I don't know about you, but dropping $500 on a tablet every year is a little hard to stomach.
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And on your relationship
TBH, if the current TF101 gets an ICS update I will be more than happy. If the apps and some games will run on it, then I'll definitely skip this "update" - I like the metal finishing, but just because of more proccessing power (when not really needed) I won't buy it.
you think the dock keyboard will light up?
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Really it will have to blow me away in what it does compared to my current transformer and keyboard, and if my unit can be updated to ICS they will have to sell me on some real life advantages not benchmark, mine doesn't lag or anything my battery life is superb.
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yea, but without a latest and greatest gadgets...people will think you have a tiny member
as long as ICS is avail, ill stick with mines and wait for win8 tablets
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as long as ICS is avail, ill stick with mines and wait for win8 tablets
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Wow good luck with your desition
I'll wait until I would be sure that tf2 can be rooted. And considering the time it takes to get the latest B series rooted, my guess is 6 months to 1 year. Hope I'm wrong.
I like the brushed look on the outside case, very cool though I'm not sure if that's enough for me to ditch my Transformer 1.
Another caveat is the question of whether the Tegra 3 is the best upcoming chipset. Qualcomm and TI are doing some interesting things, and so is the Tegra 3 the one to buy or should one wait for the next gen from the other manufacturers? Who knows, maybe it's the TF3 that will be worth buying, and the TF1 can hold us off in the meantime.
Personally, I'm tempted to sell my TF1 and get a TF2, but my more practical side says to wait until CES to see what other manufacturers announce.
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Another caveat is the question of whether the Tegra 3 is the best upcoming chipset. Qualcomm and TI are doing some interesting things, and so is the Tegra 3 the one to buy or should one wait for the next gen from the other manufacturers. Who knows, maybe it's the TF3 that will be worth buying, and the TF1 can hold us off in the meantime.
Personally, I'm tempted to sell my TF1 and get a TF2, but my more practical side says to wait until CES to see what other manufacturers announce.
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While I really love my Transformer, I couldn't agree more. The one thing that just pisses me off the most about my Transformer is the lack of media that I can actually watch on it. Knowing that the newer OMAP4 and Qualcomm chips are much better, and on top of that they are probably almost as good as the Tegra 3, I really feel it's worthwhile to wait. The only thing I feel the Tegra 3 has going for it is the GPU side of things. Right now, TI seems complacent to always include a simple GPU that is inferior to whatever Apple currently has. Why don't we have a GPU the same as Apple? I don't know, but it's disheartening from the gaming side of things. I want more. The only OMAP4 chip that comes close is the 4460...and that won't be out until next year....
I'm looking for a tablet and I see three xooms near me. One of them for $400 new, another $350 used and one for $300 used. Need advice.
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I'm looking for a tablet and I see three xooms near me. One of them for $400 new, another $350 used and one for $300 used. Need advice.
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Maybe if you prvide your location you will get better help? There was a special in Sydney yesterday for brand new Xoom for 298 AUD. If you are happy to wait I am sure by January next year all the tablets will come down in price.
K.
I was looking at the prime but i really don't want to spend $500. But I want ICS and there is no sure fire proof it will officially come to the xoom.
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I was looking at the prime but i really don't want to spend $500. But I want ICS and there is no sure fire proof it will officially come to the xoom.
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JBQ stated that it is coming to the Xoom soon. Motorola stated that it's coming to the Xoom, but no time frame given.
It's coming; we just don't know when. I estimate Late Jan - Mid February.
The latest AOSP release included files for the Xoom, just give it a week and it will be in here...
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I got dude that wanted $400 to drop it to $350 but I would rather pay $300 tops.
Keep an Eye on Woot. I picked up 2 wifi only's for $320 a pop in november.
Yeah they trying to get $400 when it's $369 on newegg
Get a Quad Core Transformer instead (I am not Hating, I have a 32GB WiFi Xoom), but GED has held this device back. Still can't Write or Delete the SD Card without a PC, while other Android Tablets have been doing this since the day they came out. Google is Super Slow in allowing us GED Xoom owners Full SD Card Access.
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Get a Quad Core Transformer instead (I am not Hating, I have a 32GB WiFi Xoom), but GED has held this device back. Still can't Write or Delete the SD Card without a PC, while other Android Tablets have been doing this since the day they came out. Google is Super Slow in allowing us GED Xoom owners Full SD Card Access.
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*sighs* You can write to your SD card if you were willing to root. I personally bought my Xoom over a transformer, or galaxy tab or what have you because its a GED device. You know why? because I do not want bloat. I dont want touchwiz, I dont want sense, I dont want motoblur or any other modified interface. I wanted pure undiluted android with the lovely added bonus of being virtually unbrickable all while being unlocked.
I did not buy a xoom to remain at stock, I bought it to overclock it, to tweak it, To make the device MY device. As im sure a lot of other xoom owners did. This will probably sound harsh but it's not my intention; If you wanted to remain at stock, which seems obvious from your previous posts in another thread complaining about the very same issue your complaining about here, Then maybe you should have done your research and checked out competing tablets before making your purchase. I find i'm pretty happy with all my purchases because I do huge amounts of research to find the product that is right for me.
The xoom is an amazing device, We have a pretty amazing community here that will help you if need be, Thou I find most everything answered already. The developers we have are great. Team Tiamat for example make a flawless rom/kernel from my experience, limited as it may be. Its still great. I currently have mine with the moray 2.2.2 rom and odachi OC kernel and its extremely smooth, wonderful batterylife.. And relatively amazing. Being a GED device means its basically a developing template. You bought a GED device, because its a GED device and you're not taking advantage of the fact its a GED device. It takes longer to read the instructions on how to root then it does to actually do it. You will be MUCH happier with your purchase if you take advantage of what its capable of. Root it, rom it, kernel it. Do your research before trying, But if you do You will have a more plesant experience. You will be much more happier with your device. I personally used this thread and I can vouch for its accuracy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798 if you don't like it. Then simply return it to stock and you're done. There are more benefits to rooting a device Then their are downsides from what I've read.
In response to OP's question. I paid the current price on newegg (370$) and even at that price I am very happy with my purchase. If I could find one for 300-350$ I would buy it in a heartbeat for my parents. Now keep in mind the 370$ price tag is for a RE CERTIFIED xoom, Mine came with stock everything in the box. No problems what so ever. Soo if you were going to pay 350 for a used one, Splurge for the extra 20 to get a re certified product. Its very much worth that price in my honest opinion.
You see, I bought the WiFi Xoom the day it came out because of PROMISES & HYPE. You are partially right. I should have waited for the Transformer (at least I would have a working SD Card Write/Delete from within). I just feel I SHOULD NOT have to go thru the Trouble of Rooting to get what the device should do out of the BOX. That's why GED "WAS" supposed to be so special. To me it isn't.
I feel we were duped and I personally will NEVER get another GED device EVER again. Actually GED is holding back the US Xoom's. A very talented Dev has said as much. If you have ever been on the Moto Community Forums, Gmanapps (who created SDCARDXD) has said as much, and he is VERY Talented and Smart (not to say you are not, I just respect what he has to say on the issue at hand). To me these EXPENSIVE Devices should work out-of-the-box as my Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0 does. I got tired of keeping up with Myn's Rom then Synergy. I jut want it to work Stock. There is NOTHING wrong with that, especially after the money we 1st Day Adopters paid for it.
Just my 2 Cents from a VERY Frustrated Consumer. When you Root, things go wrong and something ALWAYS gets FUBAR'd (like No 4G or Camera Not Working). No Thanks.
Ohhh, I can understand why you're so frustrated now. I learnt to always take promises and hypes with a grain of salt. Just because people will say whatever it takes to sale their product. I just about always wait until something has all its bugs and stuff worked out before buying it. So I can very much understand your point now.
I personally will buy a GED device again, but my reasoning is because its unlocked. I very much enjoy hacking things to do more then they should, It extends the life of a product for me. Means I have to replace it less often. Which is a huge plus for me because I can be kinda cheap haha. I originally started my "mobile" carrier, so to speak, with iOS, its the openness of android that attracted me so much. I hate not having control of my devices. So rooting for me, was part of the appeal. No disrespect taken Because I can understand your frustration. The devs on here know alot more then i do haha. Maybe it has held it back, But at the same time in my eyes it's helped because of it being unlocked, it allows for an easier time developing.
Things should work out of the box I will agree with that, they really should. People shouldn't have to create apps to allow a feature thats available on just about anything that includes an SD card. Sometimes things don't thou, and I guess it would be googles fault for it not doing so since updates do come through them. I guess its because the tablet is kinda like the nexus program, Devices with the pure unfiltered android experience. I guess even the flaws of that "unfiltered" experience come through as well. Personally though, I would much rather adapt and find a solution then be unhappy.
If you ever do decide to give rooting/roming (is that what you call it?) a go. Def use the guide i linked earlier for as long as its still valid. The only thing that would suck is backing up your data before the wipe that happens when you unlock.
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Just my 2 Cents from a VERY Frustrated Consumer. When you Root, things go wrong and something ALWAYS gets FUBAR'd (like No 4G or Camera Not Working). No Thanks.
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If you follow directions properly, most issues are avoided. And afaik, issues like no 4g or broken camera occur when you apply an unstable rom. Rooting simply gives you full control, that's all.
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Ohhh, I can understand why you're so frustrated now. I learnt to always take promises and hypes with a grain of salt. Just because people will say whatever it takes to sale their product. I just about always wait until something has all its bugs and stuff worked out before buying it. So I can very much understand your point now.
I personally will buy a GED device again, but my reasoning is because its unlocked. I very much enjoy hacking things to do more then they should, It extends the life of a product for me. Means I have to replace it less often. Which is a huge plus for me because I can be kinda cheap haha. I originally started my "mobile" carrier, so to speak, with iOS, its the openness of android that attracted me so much. I hate not having control of my devices. So rooting for me, was part of the appeal. No disrespect taken Because I can understand your frustration. The devs on here know alot more then i do haha. Maybe it has held it back, But at the same time in my eyes it's helped because of it being unlocked, it allows for an easier time developing.
Things should work out of the box I will agree with that, they really should. People shouldn't have to create apps to allow a feature thats available on just about anything that includes an SD card. Sometimes things don't thou, and I guess it would be googles fault for it not doing so since updates do come through them. I guess its because the tablet is kinda like the nexus program, Devices with the pure unfiltered android experience. I guess even the flaws of that "unfiltered" experience come through as well. Personally though, I would much rather adapt and find a solution then be unhappy.
If you ever do decide to give rooting/roming (is that what you call it?) a go. Def use the guide i linked earlier for as long as its still valid. The only thing that would suck is backing up your data before the wipe that happens when you unlock.
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You are a cool dude, Thanks for the help. I have Rooted before. My OG EVO had Myn's Warm 2.2 , then Synergy. So I am NOT a Noob to Rooting. I just don't feel like following the ROM to Death like before. It gets old. I guess I will just have to wait until Google gets off it's LAZY ASS and gives us ICS. HC works fine and as for me, the Playbook and Galaxy Player are all I need for now. I have no more need for tablets and what I have will suffice for a long time.
I personally thing if u find a xoom has better spec. then another 10' tablet. it has 4g, duel core, and used ranged from 300 dollar. Samsung makes good tablet but right now still not really match xoom in price range. Samung tablet plus price is like more then xoom. xoom is close or less then this tablet. Only think i would consider is the old samsung tab 7 inch. becasue:
Samsung tab 7" ( old )
1 core, 2gb + sd slot. 3g around 200-250 ( i got one on ebay 198)
Xoom
2 core 32 GB +sd slot 4G around 300-340 ( i got one on ebay. 310)
for 50-60 dollars more u get 4g and bigger screen and 1 core. Hope you understand.
its got the longest battery life among current tablets and its the only one that does dualband. I have no interest in buying a non GED device. I want to decide on my overlay and I want the first updates. Google's updates are far more featurefilled than anything Asus will offer you in their overlay, so picking a non GED product makes no sense for me. Ill get a new one either after nvidias next Gen processor comes out in a year or if Samsung makes something with that awesome flexible display concept design they made (YouTube the commercial, coolest thing I've ever seen). The tegra 2 is not yet outdated. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, though
i paid 240 for my xoom :]
got it used on craigslist
Just picked one up as well. 32gig Wifi for $300. Buyer also included dock and case. Cant complain about that. Now.. on to root
I wouldnt personally buy a xoom when the transformer prime is around the corner...
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I wouldnt personally buy a xoom when the transformer prime is around the corner...
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I bought a 4G LTE XOOM, knowing the Prime was around the corner... Mostly because I needed a tablet with its own dedicated data connection... Verizon has the best network and didn't want the Galaxy Tab or Xyboard. TP isn't coming out with mobile radios, so had to rule it out.