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Xoom @ COSTCO

Anyone that is looking to get the XOOM, i just find out today that COSTCO will be carrying them at the cell phone booth. They had the samsung tab for $100 less then everyone else, so might want to check it out if you plan to get one. The email said live displays would start arriving in stores the 22nd, and display banners/signs would start arriving the 24th. It did not say when the units would go on sale or for how much.

No show today
Checked with Costco this am 22nd, and the fellow told me they will not have anything until Thurs.--he knew nothing about price etc.

I doubt it'll be cheaper than verizons on contract price of 600.
even then, people said the apple ipad was to expensive at 499, but the xoom with no flash support(i know yet, but it will, maybe, its motorola who locks there stuff down tight, ask anyone with a Moto X, so who knows. lol) is going for 800?!
I will wait for an HTC tablet with Honeycomb. It will be much better IMHO

nosympathy said:
I will wait for an HTC tablet with Honeycomb. It will be much better IMHO
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Why is that? Motorola has competed with HTC pretty well in the smartphone realm, why are you automatically assuming that HTC will be better in the tablet realm?
The HTC tablet announced at WMC is a joke compared to the Xoom IMHO.

akarol said:
Why is that? Motorola has competed with HTC pretty well in the smartphone realm, why are you automatically assuming that HTC will be better in the tablet realm?
The HTC tablet announced at WMC is a joke compared to the Xoom IMHO.
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Agreed - HTC seems to be pushing too much sense and not really promoting the android aspect of it. Yeah they update their phones relatively timely manner but they're doing with sense what apple did with unix - keeping it limited to only what they want and that's whats irritating.
I think the Flyer would have been nicer with vanilla honeycomb and not all the extra fluff of sense. Its the main reason why Moto, Samsung, AND LG are keeping with the vanilla version - they finally realize they'll get more people on board if they put out a standard tab the way apple did with the ipad

I might get the xoom after it is rooted, and bootloader unlocked, cm8 tab edition ftw

i am loving every aspect of it, but the only thing stopping me is there are no good apps and games for Android. I won't be playing games, but there will be time when i will want to and there are no good games. I can't justify myself spending $800 and not having a Complete product.

teshxx said:
i am loving every aspect of it, but the only thing stopping me is there are no good apps and games for Android. I won't be playing games, but there will be time when i will want to and there are no good games. I can't justify myself spending $800 and not having a Complete product.
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Not true, what so ever... there may not be amazing games in the android market.. but else where there is good games for the platform.

NewZJ said:
I might get the xoom after it is rooted, and bootloader unlocked, cm8 tab edition ftw
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The Xoom will have an unlockable bootloader.
https://twitter.com/Motorola/status/40166376467341312

boliviano3 said:
The Xoom will have an unlockable bootloader.
https://twitter.com/Motorola/status/40166376467341312
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well. then, i'll be getting a Xoom, i might play with it for a while before my psp ngp comes out

Mm I don't think I ma get it seems too expensive, probably get an ipad it has been almost a year since it came out and it really has some nice apps (brother has one ).maybe wait for ipad 2
About the flyer truth HTC adds a lot stuff to their phones that not a lot people that are into deveplomet (like people at this forum) wants but to the regular consumer it does look really nice, is impresive what they did with android os (not honeycomb ) and is easy to use, plus 7 inch sounds like a good size I didn't get the sansumg tablet cause bad experience with sansumg in the past but anyone with open mind should read this article (link below), and most it to me sounds correct, android seems to be rushing to it just like gingerbread, they said in the past the gingerbread was going to have a better UI but it looks the same to me (just some new stuff here and there ) while HTC have been more advance to what google is doing, we can just put a simple example like facebook integration with HTC is better then google integration (after you download the app) so I have to give it up to HTC for taking a risky approach, and of course google for.bringing android
technobuffalo.com/blog/companies/google/android/htc-flyer-was-the-best-android-tablet-at-mwc/
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jgalan14 said:
Mm I don't think I ma get it seems too expensive, probably get an ipad it has been almost a year since it came out and it really has some nice apps (brother has one ).maybe wait for ipad 2
About the flyer truth HTC adds a lot stuff to their phones that not a lot people that are into deveplomet (like people at this forum) wants but to the regular consumer it does look really nice, is impresive what they did with android os (not honeycomb ) and is easy to use, plus 7 inch sounds like a good size I didn't get the sansumg tablet cause bad experience with sansumg in the past but anyone with open mind should read this article (link below), and most it to me sounds correct, android seems to be rushing to it just like gingerbread, they said in the past the gingerbread was going to have a better UI but it looks the same to me (just some new stuff here and there ) while HTC have been more advance to what google is doing, we can just put a simple example like facebook integration with HTC is better then google integration (after you download the app) so I have to give it up to HTC for taking a risky approach, and of course google for.bringing android
technobuffalo.com/blog/companies/google/android/htc-flyer-was-the-best-android-tablet-at-mwc/
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You obviously haven't played with the iPad enough. Well, lucky for you, I have (I have owned one since its launch). And I'll tell you that the lack of Flash support alone is reason not to get one. That, by itself, makes this tablet inferior to any Android-based one. Trust me on this! You'd be surprised how many sites that you visit rely on Flash.
Also, another thing that really limits the iPad is the fact that apps are not flexible in its code to accurately extrapolate the pixel density, leading you to have iPhone/iPod apps and iPad (HD) apps. Not the case in Android. All apps work in all devices. Regardless of its resolution. This means that all apps in the Android Market are also available to its tablet users. Not the case with the App Store. I'd say about half of the apps on my iPad are iPhone apps that are 2x scaled over, making it painfully pixelated.

akarol said:
You obviously haven't played with the iPad enough. Well, lucky for you, I have (I have owned one since its launch). And I'll tell you that the lack of Flash support alone is reason not to get one. That, by itself, makes this tablet inferior to any Android-based one. Trust me on this! You'd be surprised how many sites that you visit rely on Flash.
Also, another thing that really limits the iPad is the fact that apps are not flexible in its code to accurately extrapolate the pixel density, leading you to have iPhone/iPod apps and iPad (HD) apps. Not the case in Android. All apps work in all devices. Regardless of its resolution. This means that all apps in the Android Market are also available to its tablet users. Not the case with the App Store. I'd say about half of the apps on my iPad are iPhone apps that are 2x scaled over, making it painfully pixelated.
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Well thanks for the info I appreciate it, we'll not pad for me lmao, I'll stick with my Evo and my laptop
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The Xoom will ship with flash 10.1 right? I heard that the OTA will be for Flash 10.2.
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The Xoom will ship with flash 10.1 right? I heard that the OTA will be for Flash 10.2.
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Not flash man but it will have an update shortly ( 2 weeks adobe said today )
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No Flash at launch, but it'll come soon according to Adobe. Early Spring.

Sorry for the crappy picture but here you go.

I am just going to wait for the $600 WiFi only version. I spoke with mobile guy at Costco and he said there is a WiFi only version in their system that will come out 30 days after the 3G Xoom is released (Feb 24). I have a Costco AMEX card and will just use that as Costco has a better return policy than BB. I also have a BB card that has nothing on it and interest free for 18 months sound good as well. I guess I will cross that bridge when the WiFi only model gets released.

The twitter about the unlocked bootloader totally changed me....now I waiting for the wifi only xoom...if it's available on Costco even the better.

ipad fans: hows that usb, flash, and camera support coming along? oh, my bad, you'll never have those...

Xoom, flyer or ipad 2?

I am interested in buying a tablet come the next few months. I'm not really after spending a fortune on one so the 3d LG is put of the question at a expected 850 pound. The 2 I'm looking at are either HTC flyer and the mototola xoom. I am a little disappointed with the HTC specs single core was not what I had in mind. The question is should I buy the xoom at a estemated 430pound or get the cheaper HTC it or wait for ipad 2.
The tablet would mainly be used got uni work and reading up on course material etc. Also some "games " and other apps. I am in the market for an android one preferably, not the Playbook or something similar.
Any advice would be brilliant, thanks.
Jordan
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Its not single core, its a dual core tegra 2.
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I personally am getting the wifi Xoom. It hits my price point, and is something that I need. I travel a lot, and it is more portable than my Vaio.
I'm in college also, so the ebook reader is nice. I hate reading ebooks in half of my screen... I like the snap feature of win 7, but would rather have something dedicated if I don't have a hard copy.
The only reason I wouldn't get the Xoom is if the bootloader is locked. I'm not really interested in modifying the Xoom, because from what I've seen the OS looks great, but I just won't support closing down an open system.

I saw it was single core snapdragon 1.5
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I saw it was single core snapdragon 1.5
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Yea it's a single core 1.5

Yeh that's what I was thinking, honeycomb looks great along with tegra 2 the e book reader. If it foes come in around the 400 pound mark I will happily get one and ignore the ipad
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Of those three? The Xoom. It has a higher screen resolution than the others (most accounts say that the iPad 2 will get no boost in resolution), and I think Honeycomb is visually more interesting than HTC Sense or iOS.

Yeh I'm pretty interested to see honey comb. I like the sense and its ment to be integrated well into the HTC tab but the lack of dual core 3.0 dosent make it future proof in my opinion. Rather pay more the more powerful tablet that will rub future versions of honey comb.
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Right, the Xoom has a dual core 1Ghz Tegra 2, the Flyer has a single core 1.5Ghz Snapdragon. I thought the original post said the Xoom had a single core.
Anyhow, two very different devices that will sell for similar prices (from what I've seen so far, the Fly is $780?)
Shrug, Xoom all the way for me, no matter how much I like HTC products, they just fell short with the Flyer.
Smaller screen with lower resolution and no HDMI out. No thanks!

The one thing I DO like about the Flyer is integrated OnLive, but I'm hoping that eventually makes it out to other Android tablets as well. I'm not an OnLive subscriber, but if their catalog increases enough during the year, I very well could be.

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The one thing I DO like about the Flyer is integrated OnLive, but I'm hoping that eventually makes it out to other Android tablets as well. I'm not an OnLive subscriber, but if their catalog increases enough during the year, I very well could be.
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I've been using OnLive since release. It's neat, and I think it has a future, only if they can get first-run games on it. I don't want to play games that are a few years old, I want a release day game to play. I have yet to find a game I like that I haven't already played to death on it.
But yeah, hopefully it will come to all Android's in the future and this is just a flagship.

Yeh agreed the cloud services seem very nice. But as the last guy said the lack of hardware is disappointing. I'm hoping the prices of the xoom sent ridiculous as at the end of the day its a tablet not a PC. Looking forward to finding the release date for it, hoping March mabey early April if the states are "ment " to be getting it end of this month
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The Xoom ... of course

iPad 2.
The iPad was a pretty decent tablet, and the Flyer is a bit too small for my taste. I would have considered the Xoom, if it weren't for the ridiculous pricing option. I mean, when an Apple product is more economical than your device , you know you have done something wrong...

You have the right price for the xoom? 600 $ wifi version, lines up correctly with the 32 gb ipad 32gb .
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jordanprudent said:
You have the right price for the xoom? 600 $ wifi version, lines up correctly with the 32 gb ipad 32gb .
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This.
32GB Wifi-only iPad = $600
32GB Wifi-only Xoom = $600
Clearly thats a 2nd gen device vs a first-gen device, but still it shows the pricepoint is perfectly in line with the market. And with the Xoom, you're getting a true tablet OS and much more powerful hardware.

I am confused with this thread because sizes are different, First of all the user should decided which size tablet to use.
Flyer : 7''
Others : 10''
Also I wonder why Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 is not listed in this comparison

All I want to say is that after having the iPhone 2G, iPhone 3G, and iPhone 3GS... the XOOM is well worth every penny. I feel that 500$ is overpriced for an iPad, but 800$ is not overpriced for a XOOM, though I don't want 3G since I have an EVO and look forward to the even cheaper 600$ WiFi XOOM.
The reason is flash. Before all you apple blossoms sigh, hear me out. I loved my iPhone, since I was previously using WinMo devices for personal use. I didn't like the Walled Garden, or being tied to iTunes, but overall I liked the device. However, I was constantly reminded that the phone was essentially useless when trying to use it outside of my home. When I was out I could never find up to date information on restaurants if they had flash websites. I recall having to call nearly a dozen Cold Stone Creamery's because the official website was flash, and the stores around me on Google Maps were out of business.
Another instance in the months before I bought the EVO was when I was trying to find some information about Fuddruckers. There are many more cases that I can't recall details of, but it was a royal pain in the ass. The fact of the matter is that flash is here to stay, and any device that claims web-browsing really needs to have at least a limited flash capability. I would love to know if anyone can honestly say they did any serious web-browsing on an iPad for an entire day without running into something they couldn't do or view. Also, MOBILE SITES ARE NOT DO NOT LET IT OFF THE HOOK.
As you can see, the issue sort of gets to me. I keep wanting to shake iPad users for spending 500$ on a device that is missing basic functionality. Flash has been here for 15 years and has been integral to a rich web experience for at least half that time.
So.. XOOM. My problem with the flyer is that I'm SICK of seeing Android 2.2 tablets. Considering the veritable failure of the Samsung Galaxy Tab, I am shocked that HTC would make such a choice. They are only further adding to the consumer confusion about Android by releasing another tablet with an OS that is crap for a tablet. Though on another hand, I hope that it does well enough to inspire other manufacturers to install digitizers on their devices. The one thing the digital age has robbed from me is the ability to doodle. I don't want all these damn games, just give me a stylus and digitizer so I can draw when I'm bored. I read questionablecontent religiously and have been looking for a way to try making a webcomic without having to actually invest in a wacom tablet.

I've got an iPad, and web browsing is a constant frustration that makes me want to toss it. Honestly, I can't stand it. My wife uses it for netflix, and that's all it has been relegated to lately. Watching videos we download or stream via netflix, and it's overpriced for that.
Even on sites with HTML 5, they don't work 100%. I've had issues shopping on it. I can select an item, add it to my shopping cart, but when it came time to choose a color or another option, crash...then crash again, and again. Pain in the arse. My EVO browses the internet far far better than my $600 iPad.
As for the Flyer, it's getting updated to Honeycomb. Why it isn't shipping with it, who the hell knows, but it's otherwise too similar to the Tab.
If you want a rockin device with a promise to be upgraded to Honeycomb, check out the Notion Ink Adam. Similar to the flyer, but with a larger screen and only $425 shipped, if you manage to become one of the lucky few allowed to pre-order it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI99t9k4aEE
this is what i think about the Ipad lol

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 V Tegra 3 Device

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OR Wait for Tegra Three devices?
I would also allow for you to suggest other devices but please only android and please only 10 inch tablets.
Also the new tegra three devices might not be as thin or good-looking as the samsung which i really care about.
The only reason i like tegra is because of the support it has in the android app developing community so please try to keep the suggestions to tegra devices unless you have a good reason to contradict it.

This is simple for me.
If you can wait, wait.
If not go for it.
I couldn't wait

If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol. When Tegra 3 devices come out, Tegra 4 will be announced. I passed on the galaxy tab to wait for a tegra 2 device and now I hear nvidias "Kal-El" quad core. **** it! I'm going for the Gtab!

lol might as well buy the Samsung now and then sell it once the new one you like comes out. But its true, do you really want to keep waiting? Not I, I'm jumping on June 8th.

Personally I would get one now. You can play the waiting game and never get one as there is always a better one around the corner. You can of course wait but I suspect that you won’t see many better or 4 core tablets announced until CES 2012 next year.

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If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol.
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No, if you can wait, it means.... you can wait! I don't know about the rest of you, but I've lived my life just fine without a table. It will be a cool toy to have, but I don't NEED one. Tech gadgets are always progressing, but the tablet market is currently moving at a very fast pace. Tegra 3 is supposed to be out later this year, and is supposed to be 5x the performance. That's a much more significant performance/time ratio than other more "mature" tech products. If you can wait, then there's certainly something to be said for jumping on when the curve flattens out a little. What I do will depend a lot on pricing.

i think it's worth waiting... tegra3 pre production chips allready shipped to manyfacturers, mass production starts around august. motorola and probably asus will be releasing products short after ( promising releases before back-to-school time )
this means that you can, in theory, own a quad core beast in within 3 to 4 months months...
and they are realy fast, throw your pc and your mediaplayers out of the window and start using your tablet instead

perhaps you can invest in a program like best buy's buy back program, so when something new comes out, you can trade in your old and get the new for cheap
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
Take Samsung for example, think of the time and money that has been spent building and promoting their new tablets around the world. I really don't see them coming out with any new tablets at the end of the year even if they had the new teleology. they first need to make a profit.

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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
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Asus, Motorola, and Amazon (and probably others) are all rumored to have Tegra 3 tablets by the end of the year. You can't make much money off of the products you currently have on the market if they are obsoleted by new products your competitors are offering.

I'm going to revise my initial answer.
If you're asking the question "Should I wait?". You should wait.
After the iPad released last year, I started trying to imagine, what exactly I would use a tablet for. Once I was a bit settled on what I wanted to do with it, I started looking for something that would match my needs.
When the 10.1v was announced I realised it was a match and I eagerly went after it.
Maybe you should wait until you are certain that the tablet you are buying is a match for your requirements.

I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
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lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-light
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
-brilliant batery (i charge it each night but it only gets down to 30-50% after full day of use)
-netbook replacment (people will argue this but i haven't found a netbook more fun then this, and you can put debian on it )
-casual gaming (not sure of anything on the market you cannotplay onit except porley designed games that are just tiny boxs)
Things it isn't:
-high def cinema (you can run standard def fine and it looks great but if you are obsesd with 720P wait)
-ipad (yer thats a pritty good reason )
-high end device (tegra 2 is fun and all but nexus s still out performes all tegra 2 devices so if you want the bigest and best wait for qualcomm)
In conclusion if you want a great device that doesn't need to be compared to a PC (which i hate that thats were we uave goten in tablets) then go pick one up, but if your after a device that you want to luanch thermal nucular war with wait for qualcomm.
Note: bad spelling is becuase i'm dislexcic(fail i know thats wroung but cannot remember the correct spelling)
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good try with the spelling lol

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I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
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Ahh. You're more into the 30 pin connector then?
I'll stop short of making a crack about the shape of said connector

I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.

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I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.

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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(

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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Unfortunately no.

xoom 2 advertisment. No ICS?

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11/01/motorola-xoom-2-ad-confirms-honeycomb-and-pre-christmas-launch-will-likely-retail-for-400/

Well if Moto are going for a 2011 release there's no way they could shoehorn ICS on there before it hits the shops. Better to get the hardware out and selling and work on an ICS upgrade in the background once they have the source.

Well how many people on here would install another rom, install adw ex or multilive wallpaper? So what difference does it make which OS it has.
It would make no difference to me if it had froyo, i had froyo on my 7' galaxy tab and still use all the same apps and widgets on my xoom. So what does it matter?
With ICS you can have a fingerprint unlocker? woopeee dog doo! utter worthless sales mode crap!
Let's have a fingerprint unlocker, but we won't have micro sd card expansion so we can have a thin device, i think these tablet developers are brain damaged!

I would absolutely love and use a fingerprint unlocker! I synch with 2 Exchange servers that require a device unlock PIN every time I turn it on. Not sales crap - a very useful feature for some of us.

not sure if i get the point of them releasing it with only a dual core...

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not sure if i get the point of them releasing it with only a dual core...
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I think they're trying to target the consumer market. Xoom 1 was best of CES and first device honeycomb. I think first device with honeycomb means a lot because the ui was designed almost exclusively for xoom 1. Xoom 2 is not innovative but lighter weight and better screen for $200 less than xoom 1 (589 vs ~389) could do wonders for moto who posted a 3rd quarter loss. If xoom 2 is the first tablet to get ics that may help it out otherwise ics on xoom1 will hopefully satisfy my needs until octacore xoom 3 comes out

Xoom 2 looks like it has a ui skin. Big problem for me.
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>not sure if i get the point of them releasing it with only a dual core...
One major reason is being able to play most videos w/o need to convert, thanks to OMAP4's better multimedia support. For regular people, it means smooth HD Netflix & Hulu streaming. It's a big use-case. In addition to being thinner, lighter, more stylish, etc.
I agree it's not a big jump functionality-wise. Having ICS onboard would've been a more compelling sell, but ICS didn't make the deadline. Regardless, the new Moto line-up is much improved over the old.
>I think they're trying to target the consumer market.
Only for the Xoom Family, which is $350-ish now at BestBuy. The 8.2" Xoom 2 Media Edition will be for €400 (one can assume the same for the US), and is targeted at the under-10" segment.
The 10" Xoom 2 is targeted at the business crowd, mainly by its software load-out. Extrapolating from the announced UK pricing (£325+VAT vs ME's £299), it'll probably go for USD$450.
To sum: Xoom Family $350, Xoom 2 Media 8.2" $400, Xoom 2 10.1" $450.
The emphasis on "value pricing" (read: cheaper than iPad's $500) was made clear by Moto CEO when he said that pricing was something they'd work to bring down. I am a little surprised by the narrow price band--only $100 spacing between high and low-end. It may well be because of ICS' inavailability, which makes a more ambitious roll-out problematic.
Also, Moto is in a major transition of its own, being integrated into Goog, so it has other concerns at the moment.

Does anyone one knows any more info about this tablet? I can't find a decent video review. I am interested buying the media edition.

ICS will come later as an update. As for "When?", well... It's Motorola. Your guess is as good as mine.
The specs on this new tablet are indeed outdated considering new tablets coming in the next 3 months will mostly feature quadcore (or at least much faster hardware). The only way this tablet could be successful is if it allows them to sell it quite cheaper than the quadcore tablets. That could provide a very interesting mid-range product. So, pricing will either make, or break this product IMHO.

See Motorola is not equal to Asus
Motorola new Tablet dual core processor, less internal memory upgrade to ICS as they said.... in due course
Asus 32gig Quad Core same price as Motorola Dual Core 16gig Xoom 2. Upgrade to ICS they said before Christmas

I was surprised that they would release the Xoom 2 with the lackluster hardware and no ICS. What's the huge improvement? Apart from the fact that there's some nice but non-essential upgrades. Spill resistant Screen, shiny metal back, Rear Camera Centered, Power button on the side and not the back, Speakers centered, Grooved corners for easier holding.
My favorite being IT CHARGES OFF OF MICRO USB.
That would of been nice (and expected I would say) on our OG Xooms.
Also w/ Google acquiring Motorola and not releasing ICS on the Xoom 2 right away, I think, shows that Google is not out to play favorites since they acquired a hardware manufacturer. This should give the other big Android manufacturers warm feelings; HTC/Samsung/LG.
I could be wrong but just wanted to put my word in there.

Personally, I think once the Xoom 2 hits shelves, Moto could careless about the OG Xoom and we will be LUCKY to get ICS. I have not used my Xoom in a while since I now prefer my Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0 with a 32GB Class 10 Micro SD (and unlike the GED Xoom I can actually use it to move around files) and I use my Blackberry Playbook for $199. I happen to like the smaller form factor.
The OG Xoom will be forgotten by Moto soon and we will be left to XDA to update our devices;(

I really want a a premium tablet that weight less than 450 gr and is no bigger than 8.9 inch . I have a 7 inch tablet and i want my new one to be a bit bigger . Xoom 2 media edition has what i need . But nobody seems to care about it and every one want transformer prime for its tegra 3 . i am a bit afraid to buy it because i cant find any info on this tablet . Does the media edition has the digitiser to make active stylus work or not ? How is the the battery life on this tablet ? Will the xda community support this tablet or motorolla will just sell few and no one will care to built a custom rom ? I usually i am not an early adopter on products .... Do you have any suggestions for others tablets that will suits my needs ?

I read somewhere that Motorola would not lower the price of the Xoom becausenof the Xoom2, but I can't believe this statement. My guess is that there will be big discounts on the first model. What do you think about this ?

Saintfyre said:
Also w/ Google acquiring Motorola and not releasing ICS on the Xoom 2 right away, I think, shows that Google is not out to play favorites since they acquired a hardware manufacturer. This should give the other big Android manufacturers warm feelings; HTC/Samsung/LG.
I could be wrong but just wanted to put my word in there.
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Yeah, I think you are wrong. Google hasn't acquired Motorola yet. That deal has yet to be finalized or even passed.

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How is the the buttery life on this tablet ?
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It's great as long as you don't leave it near sources of heat.
I'm sorry
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sodaboy581 said:
Yeah, I think you are wrong. Google hasn't acquired Motorola yet. That deal has yet to be finalized or even passed.
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Correct, the deal hasn't closed yet. I think just recently around the 15th 99% of Motorola Shareholders approved of the merger. Most recently I think they're getting approval/clearance from the European Commission.
So hopefully January-February the deal will be finalized.

Saintfyre said:
It's great as long as you don't leave it near sources of heat.
I'm sorry
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My thoughts on the Motorola Xoom

The Motorola Xoom. Of all android tablets, it was the experiment; the first ever of its kind. Winner of Best Of Show at CES 2011. Pioneer of Android Honeycomb. I bought this spectacle of computing technology the day it came out in the US, on March 27th, 2011. While I was watching loads of coverage from CES, and even afterwards, I anticipated what the Xoom would be like. Proponents of it were saying it would be great, that it would be able to keep up with the iPad. Critics of the Xoom, and android alike, were saying it was inferior, and would not get many sales. When I finally got my hands on one, (the last one in stock for a few days at my local Staples), I was blown away. Of course, there were few apps for it at first, but I am a patient person and knew more apps would come for it in the future. For months, I used it daily, along side my laptop. I tethered it to my Droid 2 (also Motorola ), which I had a grandfathered unlimited data plan. I took it with me as much as I could, and used it at school daily. I look back on that time and chuckle at myself; I stayed on the stock ROM, since I was afraid to flash/unlock bootloader/etc. Once I got enough courage to do it, I realized that my Motorola Xoom could do so much more. More months went by, and more tablets came out. The Galaxy Tab. Asus Transformer. HTC Flyer. Motorola Droid Xyboard. I realized how much more technology was seemed (and advertised) to have been put in these; however, I looked at my Xoom, and saw that it was keeping up. Even the processors of new tablets were increasingly better, but the Xoom (and it's workhorse Tegra 2) was staying in the game. My stock rooted honeycomb was still a daily driver, months and months after it came out. Even with the introduction of quad core android tablets, like the Transformer Prime, Xoom was staying around. And then i experienced TeamEOS. It was the first ROM i flashed for my xoom. TeamEOS's ICS rom. Faster than ever before, I was overjoyed that my Xoom had new life. Fast forward to now, with the introduction of Jellybean. The Xoom is still one of the very first devices to receive the OTA. This shows that the Xoom will still be at the front of Android tablet technology for a very long time.
tl;dr: The Motorola Xoom, which I bought on day 1, is still one of THE best Android tablets in the world. Mine runs TeamEOS 3.0 Nightlies, and will for a very long time.

I love my Xoom and TeamEOS :good::laugh:
Thanks for all the work guys!
PS. I flashed TeamEOS the first day I received my Xoom.

realistically though, I give the Xoom a year to a year and a half before it starts becoming obsolete

all I can say is, I love my xoom.
But I´m a little dissapointed with moto´s customer/update service.
I know you guys in the US got the official ICS update long ago.
I´m from germany and we have the mz601 aka the Euro 3g/umts version with mobile data.
The only official update we got was from 3.1 to 3.2.HC.
We would be totaly screwed if there was no Team EOS.
EOS releasing the latest JellyBean Nightlys for the euro model gives me 4.1 before official moto even rolled out ICS over here.
Considering the xoom got hyped and is still considered as a Google Experience Device this kinda sucks.
Anyway, since Team EOS is around, I´m a happy xoom owner and I see the hardware nowhere near its limits, leaving plenty of room
for performance upgrades with upcoming android releases or dev tweaks.

A very good review - I fell in love with the Xoom based upon the CES show and knew I needed one - and one I bought.
I bght the WiFi only one, the plucked up the courage to root and there has been no looking back. I recently bought a second hand 3G Xoom and gave my WiFi one to my younger brother and we are an unstoppable force.
This device really exceeded my expectations and truly has kept up - I do however wish that Motorola had provided these updates - who nows they could offer the developers on here programmer and developer jobs - then we would see fast worldwide updates.
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I agree. I use my Xoom everyday and I love it. I didn't think I needed a tablet until I got my Xoom. I am also running Team EOS and love it.

Excellent post from OP, my wife say she has to compete with the Xoom for my attention..

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Excellent post from OP, my wife say she has to compete with the Xoom for my attention..
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My family says the same thing...

Probably the most disregarded and underrated tablet out there. Love ICS on it waiting for a stock jellybean before I root it.
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I bought my WiFi Xoom the day they went on sale & use it everyday. I have not rooted mine yet as stock ICS (soon to be stock JB) work fine for me. The Xoom has a fantastic build & having a GED unit can't be beat. I have no need for any other Android Tablets. The next Tablet for me will be the Surface Pro.

I concur! I've never figured out why it has been panned by so many critics though! I never thought I'd use it for more than e-books originally but the VERY first time I saw it at Costco (and just happened to have my tax refund in my pocket) I instantly got it (3G/WiFi). I use it everyday, more than I thought I ever would. I'm a web designer and I actually find that showing my designs to clients works very well and I hardly ever bring my Mac Book Pro to meetings.
I think I'll be using my Xoom for a long time still. A couple of times I thought about getting something newer but every time I find my Xoom matches or beats the alternatives.
(And yes I do read a lot of e-books on it!)
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Part of my initial beef with the launch of and the way this device was being handled was that I saw the potential for this device and jumped on it immediately. The lack of LTE until 6 months after launch made me want to punch the responsible party in the throat. I was fairly disappointed about the way USB and SD cards are being handled but am pretty confident in the community's ability to improve that. I think it sucks that their efforts are being wasted on what should be core functionality instead of cutting edge things this device was meant for.
I have run this device hard and hung it up wet. I believe that I have gotten my money's worth. I use this thing everyday. It isn't quite the geospatial data collection tool I had envisioned it being but I blame most of that on my hatred of the cloud and failings as a developer who can't really do much from scratch. Once ESRI fleshed out its Android API, I'll be able to adjust my vectors via my tablet.
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after having mine for 12 days now the only thing i don't like about it is the location of the speakers
and that's it, everything about it is just simply great, i could not have gotten a better tablet

I think the speakers on the Xoom are better than most speakers of tablets/phones

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I think the speakers on the Xoom are better than most speakers of tablets/phones
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I think you are right!

I was actually surprised how good the speakers on the xoom sounded. like, really surprised

yeah, xoom has 2 speakers... its great for movies, especially since i always lose my earphones...

I've got a confession to make. I just got my new 16 GB Nexus 7 today. As always, these things are fun to unbox and play with, but I can already tell it's not as nice as my Xoom. Perhaps things will change over time but, if pressed, I'd keep the Xoom over the Nexus.
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I've got a confession to make. I just got my new 16 GB Nexus 7 today. As always, these things are fun to unbox and play with, but I can already tell it's not as nice as my Xoom. Perhaps things will change over time but, if pressed, I'd keep the Xoom over the Nexus.
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How is the speed on the N7, compared to the Xoom? Like, overall UI and game performance

I bought two of the 32gb WiFi versions last Christmas. I use my Xoom daily and I love it. Probably the greatest thing among many excellent points about the device is battery life. It may be chunkier than most tabs but it's got one of the largest batteries of any tablet.
Being a GED, it's still a solid choice for those in the market for a tablet. Refurbs can be had cheap making them a real bargain.
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