I am interested in buying a tablet come the next few months. I'm not really after spending a fortune on one so the 3d LG is put of the question at a expected 850 pound. The 2 I'm looking at are either HTC flyer and the mototola xoom. I am a little disappointed with the HTC specs single core was not what I had in mind. The question is should I buy the xoom at a estemated 430pound or get the cheaper HTC it or wait for ipad 2.
The tablet would mainly be used got uni work and reading up on course material etc. Also some "games " and other apps. I am in the market for an android one preferably, not the Playbook or something similar.
Any advice would be brilliant, thanks.
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Its not single core, its a dual core tegra 2.
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I personally am getting the wifi Xoom. It hits my price point, and is something that I need. I travel a lot, and it is more portable than my Vaio.
I'm in college also, so the ebook reader is nice. I hate reading ebooks in half of my screen... I like the snap feature of win 7, but would rather have something dedicated if I don't have a hard copy.
The only reason I wouldn't get the Xoom is if the bootloader is locked. I'm not really interested in modifying the Xoom, because from what I've seen the OS looks great, but I just won't support closing down an open system.
I saw it was single core snapdragon 1.5
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I saw it was single core snapdragon 1.5
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Yea it's a single core 1.5
Yeh that's what I was thinking, honeycomb looks great along with tegra 2 the e book reader. If it foes come in around the 400 pound mark I will happily get one and ignore the ipad
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Of those three? The Xoom. It has a higher screen resolution than the others (most accounts say that the iPad 2 will get no boost in resolution), and I think Honeycomb is visually more interesting than HTC Sense or iOS.
Yeh I'm pretty interested to see honey comb. I like the sense and its ment to be integrated well into the HTC tab but the lack of dual core 3.0 dosent make it future proof in my opinion. Rather pay more the more powerful tablet that will rub future versions of honey comb.
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Right, the Xoom has a dual core 1Ghz Tegra 2, the Flyer has a single core 1.5Ghz Snapdragon. I thought the original post said the Xoom had a single core.
Anyhow, two very different devices that will sell for similar prices (from what I've seen so far, the Fly is $780?)
Shrug, Xoom all the way for me, no matter how much I like HTC products, they just fell short with the Flyer.
Smaller screen with lower resolution and no HDMI out. No thanks!
The one thing I DO like about the Flyer is integrated OnLive, but I'm hoping that eventually makes it out to other Android tablets as well. I'm not an OnLive subscriber, but if their catalog increases enough during the year, I very well could be.
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The one thing I DO like about the Flyer is integrated OnLive, but I'm hoping that eventually makes it out to other Android tablets as well. I'm not an OnLive subscriber, but if their catalog increases enough during the year, I very well could be.
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I've been using OnLive since release. It's neat, and I think it has a future, only if they can get first-run games on it. I don't want to play games that are a few years old, I want a release day game to play. I have yet to find a game I like that I haven't already played to death on it.
But yeah, hopefully it will come to all Android's in the future and this is just a flagship.
Yeh agreed the cloud services seem very nice. But as the last guy said the lack of hardware is disappointing. I'm hoping the prices of the xoom sent ridiculous as at the end of the day its a tablet not a PC. Looking forward to finding the release date for it, hoping March mabey early April if the states are "ment " to be getting it end of this month
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The Xoom ... of course
iPad 2.
The iPad was a pretty decent tablet, and the Flyer is a bit too small for my taste. I would have considered the Xoom, if it weren't for the ridiculous pricing option. I mean, when an Apple product is more economical than your device , you know you have done something wrong...
You have the right price for the xoom? 600 $ wifi version, lines up correctly with the 32 gb ipad 32gb .
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You have the right price for the xoom? 600 $ wifi version, lines up correctly with the 32 gb ipad 32gb .
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This.
32GB Wifi-only iPad = $600
32GB Wifi-only Xoom = $600
Clearly thats a 2nd gen device vs a first-gen device, but still it shows the pricepoint is perfectly in line with the market. And with the Xoom, you're getting a true tablet OS and much more powerful hardware.
I am confused with this thread because sizes are different, First of all the user should decided which size tablet to use.
Flyer : 7''
Others : 10''
Also I wonder why Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 is not listed in this comparison
All I want to say is that after having the iPhone 2G, iPhone 3G, and iPhone 3GS... the XOOM is well worth every penny. I feel that 500$ is overpriced for an iPad, but 800$ is not overpriced for a XOOM, though I don't want 3G since I have an EVO and look forward to the even cheaper 600$ WiFi XOOM.
The reason is flash. Before all you apple blossoms sigh, hear me out. I loved my iPhone, since I was previously using WinMo devices for personal use. I didn't like the Walled Garden, or being tied to iTunes, but overall I liked the device. However, I was constantly reminded that the phone was essentially useless when trying to use it outside of my home. When I was out I could never find up to date information on restaurants if they had flash websites. I recall having to call nearly a dozen Cold Stone Creamery's because the official website was flash, and the stores around me on Google Maps were out of business.
Another instance in the months before I bought the EVO was when I was trying to find some information about Fuddruckers. There are many more cases that I can't recall details of, but it was a royal pain in the ass. The fact of the matter is that flash is here to stay, and any device that claims web-browsing really needs to have at least a limited flash capability. I would love to know if anyone can honestly say they did any serious web-browsing on an iPad for an entire day without running into something they couldn't do or view. Also, MOBILE SITES ARE NOT DO NOT LET IT OFF THE HOOK.
As you can see, the issue sort of gets to me. I keep wanting to shake iPad users for spending 500$ on a device that is missing basic functionality. Flash has been here for 15 years and has been integral to a rich web experience for at least half that time.
So.. XOOM. My problem with the flyer is that I'm SICK of seeing Android 2.2 tablets. Considering the veritable failure of the Samsung Galaxy Tab, I am shocked that HTC would make such a choice. They are only further adding to the consumer confusion about Android by releasing another tablet with an OS that is crap for a tablet. Though on another hand, I hope that it does well enough to inspire other manufacturers to install digitizers on their devices. The one thing the digital age has robbed from me is the ability to doodle. I don't want all these damn games, just give me a stylus and digitizer so I can draw when I'm bored. I read questionablecontent religiously and have been looking for a way to try making a webcomic without having to actually invest in a wacom tablet.
I've got an iPad, and web browsing is a constant frustration that makes me want to toss it. Honestly, I can't stand it. My wife uses it for netflix, and that's all it has been relegated to lately. Watching videos we download or stream via netflix, and it's overpriced for that.
Even on sites with HTML 5, they don't work 100%. I've had issues shopping on it. I can select an item, add it to my shopping cart, but when it came time to choose a color or another option, crash...then crash again, and again. Pain in the arse. My EVO browses the internet far far better than my $600 iPad.
As for the Flyer, it's getting updated to Honeycomb. Why it isn't shipping with it, who the hell knows, but it's otherwise too similar to the Tab.
If you want a rockin device with a promise to be upgraded to Honeycomb, check out the Notion Ink Adam. Similar to the flyer, but with a larger screen and only $425 shipped, if you manage to become one of the lucky few allowed to pre-order it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI99t9k4aEE
this is what i think about the Ipad lol
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I keep thinking about getting a Xoom or something else Honeycomb when they come out. The one thing I keep hitting on is how and how much I would use it.
As I type this I'm looking at two computers with two monitors each, a 360, and a ps3, then I have a old tube tv in the other room with a Nintendo, Genesis, and a PS2 hooked up to it.
Sometimes I do sit in front of all that and use my "little" 4.3 phone to surf the web, but not a whole lot. When I had my Hero all I wanted was something bigger, the Evo hit that perfectly!
What are you guys thoughts on tablets in general?
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I really want a tablet. Especially the xoom! Looks sweet. The price tag is high but it looks worth it. Itll be a while before i could get anything like that so have to see what comes out after that. It being a official google device makes it better tho.
A year ago, I did not want one..I have changed my mid. I could live with my Evo till the end of my contract if I had an awesome tablet to play with. I spend a LARGE part of my day surfing the web on my phone. After owning the Evo, I could see myself LOVING a tablet. After seeing Honeycomb, I lust.
I have an iPad. I use it to play games and to browse the web when I'm taking a dump. Those two things alone keep me on it for about 2-3 hours daily.
I'll probably get an Android tab eventually but for now the iPad works fine for my purposes.
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I have an iPad. I use it to play games and to browse the web when I'm taking a dump. Those two things alone keep me on it for about 2-3 hours daily.
I'll probably get an Android tab eventually but for now the iPad works fine for my purposes.
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Nook Color Honeycomb,...$249
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Nook Color Honeycomb,...$249
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...which has a very underwhelming CPU/GPU and a still non fully working port? Even with a fully working Honeycomb ROM it's not really worth it.
As for tablets, I don't really need one but I'll probably get a one soon. It's going to be between the iPad 2, Xoom, and maybe even the WebOS tablets.
Actually for me it's the other way around. I used to dream of having a tablet but now that I have an evo, i don't see any point of getting one.
Having a 4.3 and another 7inch device, even 10inch is just overkill.
Besides, once we get dual core phones, there won't be any point to get a tablet beside screen size, which is not that much of a difference.
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A year ago, I did not want one..I have changed my mid. I could live with my Evo till the end of my contract if I had an awesome tablet to play with. I spend a LARGE part of my day surfing the web on my phone. After owning the Evo, I could see myself LOVING a tablet. After seeing Honeycomb, I lust.
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I agree... Especially since sprint hoooooeeeed us all out of our prime membership upgrades. I'd rather pay for a new tablet than full price for a phone, and just wait for my 2 year upgrade to end.
$500-600 for a new phone when i still have my fully capable evo that runs silky smooth and 99.99% of the apps on the android market
ORRR
$500-700 on a tablet with a much bigger screen and capable of running dungeon defenders....
Thank you sprint for taking away my upgrade because I never would have considered getting a tablet otherwise......................................................................................................assholes
FWIW, I'll give it a week to let users shake it down, and if there's nothing really busted I'll be getting a Xoom.
Tried a few tablets already (Viewsonic G-Tablet, Huawei Ideos, Galaxy Tab) and really want one in a 10" form-factor (so, no Galaxy Tab) with a decent screen and touchscreen (so, no to the other two).
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I agree... Especially since sprint hoooooeeeed us all out of our prime membership upgrades. I'd rather pay for a new tablet than full price for a phone, and just wait for my 2 year upgrade to end.
$500-600 for a new phone when i still have my fully capable evo that runs silky smooth and 99.99% of the apps on the android market
ORRR
$500-700 on a tablet with a much bigger screen and capable of running dungeon defenders....
Thank you sprint for taking away my upgrade because I never would have considered getting a tablet otherwise......................................................................................................assholes
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Its horrible this is such a good point! I've been giving Boost some real serious thought and the money I save could be a great excuse to spend the cash on a sweet tablet. The only catch is it seems like all the good tablets are signing on to a carrier.
Xoom is a bit steep for me, so i'm actually gonna wait for the Asus Transformer, which is supposed to fall between 400-700, i'm guessing 16/wifi, 16/3g, 32/wifi and 32/3g with $100 seperating them. The specs for the upcoming devices all look similiar enough that it really falls to build quality and any additional features, and i like the idea of a 10inch netbook form factor where the screen comes off.
I was interested in the Xoom but I want an wifi-only version and I'm not willing to pay as much as a laptop [or more] for a tablet.
Moreover, the Xoom is pretty unattractive considering the likely-hood of a unlockable bootloader.
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I have an iPad. I use it to play games and to browse the web when I'm taking a dump. Those two things alone keep me on it for about 2-3 hours daily.
I'll probably get an Android tab eventually but for now the iPad works fine for my purposes.
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Win lmfao I always play killer instinct on my snes emulator while taking a dumb. And I'm getting a xoom its dual core love, I came so close to buying an ipad 2 days ago glad I didn't.
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Honeycomb itself looks amazing, makes me kinda want to get the Xoom. but i think im good with my Evo and laptop. Maybe later when different Honeycomb products come out.
Before I go pay that much money for a tablet ill just go buy another laptop with 10 times better specs. I pretty much feel the same way I did about when the ipads came out.. not much in terms of being useful for me.
For everybody saying laptops better fill the role remember the way the world is moving. I believe the xoom could accomplish most everything a laptop could, especially once developers start making apps for it. The specs of the zoom are amazing as well,.and its portability and "fun of use" will easily best out any laptop... Some books may be up to par.
Im just iffy about the multitasking on honeycomb to be honest.
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For everybody saying laptops better fill the role remember the way the world is moving. I believe the xoom could accomplish most everything a laptop could, especially once developers start making apps for it. The specs of the zoom are amazing as well,.and its portability and "fun of use" will easily best out any laptop... Some books may be up to par.
Im just iffy about the multitasking on honeycomb to be honest.
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A tablet will never replace my laptop... not unless it comes with a TB HD, a top notch graphics card, office, sql, access, etc. It's not really even practical for me to use one as a replacement. If I were to ever get a tablet it would be strictly for a casual/fun type thing.
Anyone that is looking to get the XOOM, i just find out today that COSTCO will be carrying them at the cell phone booth. They had the samsung tab for $100 less then everyone else, so might want to check it out if you plan to get one. The email said live displays would start arriving in stores the 22nd, and display banners/signs would start arriving the 24th. It did not say when the units would go on sale or for how much.
No show today
Checked with Costco this am 22nd, and the fellow told me they will not have anything until Thurs.--he knew nothing about price etc.
I doubt it'll be cheaper than verizons on contract price of 600.
even then, people said the apple ipad was to expensive at 499, but the xoom with no flash support(i know yet, but it will, maybe, its motorola who locks there stuff down tight, ask anyone with a Moto X, so who knows. lol) is going for 800?!
I will wait for an HTC tablet with Honeycomb. It will be much better IMHO
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I will wait for an HTC tablet with Honeycomb. It will be much better IMHO
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Why is that? Motorola has competed with HTC pretty well in the smartphone realm, why are you automatically assuming that HTC will be better in the tablet realm?
The HTC tablet announced at WMC is a joke compared to the Xoom IMHO.
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Why is that? Motorola has competed with HTC pretty well in the smartphone realm, why are you automatically assuming that HTC will be better in the tablet realm?
The HTC tablet announced at WMC is a joke compared to the Xoom IMHO.
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Agreed - HTC seems to be pushing too much sense and not really promoting the android aspect of it. Yeah they update their phones relatively timely manner but they're doing with sense what apple did with unix - keeping it limited to only what they want and that's whats irritating.
I think the Flyer would have been nicer with vanilla honeycomb and not all the extra fluff of sense. Its the main reason why Moto, Samsung, AND LG are keeping with the vanilla version - they finally realize they'll get more people on board if they put out a standard tab the way apple did with the ipad
I might get the xoom after it is rooted, and bootloader unlocked, cm8 tab edition ftw
i am loving every aspect of it, but the only thing stopping me is there are no good apps and games for Android. I won't be playing games, but there will be time when i will want to and there are no good games. I can't justify myself spending $800 and not having a Complete product.
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i am loving every aspect of it, but the only thing stopping me is there are no good apps and games for Android. I won't be playing games, but there will be time when i will want to and there are no good games. I can't justify myself spending $800 and not having a Complete product.
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Not true, what so ever... there may not be amazing games in the android market.. but else where there is good games for the platform.
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I might get the xoom after it is rooted, and bootloader unlocked, cm8 tab edition ftw
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The Xoom will have an unlockable bootloader.
https://twitter.com/Motorola/status/40166376467341312
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The Xoom will have an unlockable bootloader.
https://twitter.com/Motorola/status/40166376467341312
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well. then, i'll be getting a Xoom, i might play with it for a while before my psp ngp comes out
Mm I don't think I ma get it seems too expensive, probably get an ipad it has been almost a year since it came out and it really has some nice apps (brother has one ).maybe wait for ipad 2
About the flyer truth HTC adds a lot stuff to their phones that not a lot people that are into deveplomet (like people at this forum) wants but to the regular consumer it does look really nice, is impresive what they did with android os (not honeycomb ) and is easy to use, plus 7 inch sounds like a good size I didn't get the sansumg tablet cause bad experience with sansumg in the past but anyone with open mind should read this article (link below), and most it to me sounds correct, android seems to be rushing to it just like gingerbread, they said in the past the gingerbread was going to have a better UI but it looks the same to me (just some new stuff here and there ) while HTC have been more advance to what google is doing, we can just put a simple example like facebook integration with HTC is better then google integration (after you download the app) so I have to give it up to HTC for taking a risky approach, and of course google for.bringing android
technobuffalo.com/blog/companies/google/android/htc-flyer-was-the-best-android-tablet-at-mwc/
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Mm I don't think I ma get it seems too expensive, probably get an ipad it has been almost a year since it came out and it really has some nice apps (brother has one ).maybe wait for ipad 2
About the flyer truth HTC adds a lot stuff to their phones that not a lot people that are into deveplomet (like people at this forum) wants but to the regular consumer it does look really nice, is impresive what they did with android os (not honeycomb ) and is easy to use, plus 7 inch sounds like a good size I didn't get the sansumg tablet cause bad experience with sansumg in the past but anyone with open mind should read this article (link below), and most it to me sounds correct, android seems to be rushing to it just like gingerbread, they said in the past the gingerbread was going to have a better UI but it looks the same to me (just some new stuff here and there ) while HTC have been more advance to what google is doing, we can just put a simple example like facebook integration with HTC is better then google integration (after you download the app) so I have to give it up to HTC for taking a risky approach, and of course google for.bringing android
technobuffalo.com/blog/companies/google/android/htc-flyer-was-the-best-android-tablet-at-mwc/
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You obviously haven't played with the iPad enough. Well, lucky for you, I have (I have owned one since its launch). And I'll tell you that the lack of Flash support alone is reason not to get one. That, by itself, makes this tablet inferior to any Android-based one. Trust me on this! You'd be surprised how many sites that you visit rely on Flash.
Also, another thing that really limits the iPad is the fact that apps are not flexible in its code to accurately extrapolate the pixel density, leading you to have iPhone/iPod apps and iPad (HD) apps. Not the case in Android. All apps work in all devices. Regardless of its resolution. This means that all apps in the Android Market are also available to its tablet users. Not the case with the App Store. I'd say about half of the apps on my iPad are iPhone apps that are 2x scaled over, making it painfully pixelated.
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You obviously haven't played with the iPad enough. Well, lucky for you, I have (I have owned one since its launch). And I'll tell you that the lack of Flash support alone is reason not to get one. That, by itself, makes this tablet inferior to any Android-based one. Trust me on this! You'd be surprised how many sites that you visit rely on Flash.
Also, another thing that really limits the iPad is the fact that apps are not flexible in its code to accurately extrapolate the pixel density, leading you to have iPhone/iPod apps and iPad (HD) apps. Not the case in Android. All apps work in all devices. Regardless of its resolution. This means that all apps in the Android Market are also available to its tablet users. Not the case with the App Store. I'd say about half of the apps on my iPad are iPhone apps that are 2x scaled over, making it painfully pixelated.
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Well thanks for the info I appreciate it, we'll not pad for me lmao, I'll stick with my Evo and my laptop
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The Xoom will ship with flash 10.1 right? I heard that the OTA will be for Flash 10.2.
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The Xoom will ship with flash 10.1 right? I heard that the OTA will be for Flash 10.2.
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Not flash man but it will have an update shortly ( 2 weeks adobe said today )
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No Flash at launch, but it'll come soon according to Adobe. Early Spring.
Sorry for the crappy picture but here you go.
I am just going to wait for the $600 WiFi only version. I spoke with mobile guy at Costco and he said there is a WiFi only version in their system that will come out 30 days after the 3G Xoom is released (Feb 24). I have a Costco AMEX card and will just use that as Costco has a better return policy than BB. I also have a BB card that has nothing on it and interest free for 18 months sound good as well. I guess I will cross that bridge when the WiFi only model gets released.
The twitter about the unlocked bootloader totally changed me....now I waiting for the wifi only xoom...if it's available on Costco even the better.
ipad fans: hows that usb, flash, and camera support coming along? oh, my bad, you'll never have those...
There are 2-3 weeks before all the major tablets launch and I am considering buying the tab. I want a 7 inch so if i wait ill go for the flyer. But I was wondering if it is still worth paying $600 for the device. The new tablets will launch for $1000-120o so please advice me as to whether I should get the tab or wait ?
Just to add I currently have an HD7 as my primary phone and have been using the Desire HD as my backup phone and I will sell the desire hd to buy the galaxy tab. Plz consider this when advising. Thanks
Well, in the computer world there is always something coming around the corner that is better, faster and/or cheaper. That's just the nature of technology.
But, the Galaxy tab is great for me. I bought mine when they first became available in the states for $550 off contract. You can find them now for $500 off contract. To me the 7" size is a better choice then the 10" that most of the new hot tabs have. 7" is better for holding in your hand for ebook reading. The SGT is about half the weight of the iPad and Xoom which makes a huge difference.
The Galaxy tab has flash video for web but the iPad and Xoom do not.
From an ease of use and slickness the SGT runs behind the iPad but ahead of Honeycomb tablets like Xoom (read the Xoom reviews; people like the look of Honeycomb but they admit that it is not as easy to use as android 2.2).
If you are hooked on the 7" size like I am then you might consider the Dell Streak 7 which adds 4g to the mix.
As far as which provider to go with, I think one of the GSM providers (ATT or TMobile) would be better than the CDMA providers (Sprint or Verizon) as the CDMA tabs seem more locked down and have less development going on.
I would wait at this point - Samsung is suppose to be coming out with 8" Honeycomb tablet this summer.
If you can find one used or on sale
at a great price its fine for web browsing and email
and it's the only 7" capable phone out too, if you don't mind flashing it.
Just dont let anyone see you using it as a phone
Sorry is costing me $600 slight typo
Even though I returned my Tab, I'd still heartily recommend one to people looking for a great Tablet.
For me, it was TMobile winding me up that made my decision for me.
Awesome device, carriers did their best to make it fail it appears.
But some 10buck data plans? And the price it's going for atm? Well worth it I'd say. Seems everyone's pushing now for larger than 7inch devices, but the form factor is perfect. It's still luggable around (pocket requirements, but it's doable). Great screen, VERY decent sound compared to other tablets.
Sure, there's 3.0 tablets, but... Don't know. I think the Tab running 2.2 should be renamed 'Tab Classic' It's still very good, no matter what else comes after it.
I think now $500 new off contract and $400 used would be a nicer price?
No reason to rush into a Galaxy Tab with so many options coming unless its a good deal,
except maybe since it has a phone, I'd bet it will be the last 7"+ device with one.
YES
I just bought mine a week ago....luv it gave my ipad to my girlfriend ...I didnt realize how much i missed flash...7 inch is perfect for e reading ...portability is better ....10 inch to me is rather wide not easy to handle....
I have had the Tab for about a month and love it. I played with the iPad regularly since my girlfriend has one, but I consistantly came away with the Tab over iPad for 4 main reasons:
1- I much prefer 7" to 10" inch for mobility, one hand holding, ability to put in a pocket, etc.
2- I had a jailbroken iPhone and got rid of it when the original Droid came out. I still have a DroidX as my main phone due to the fact that I much prefer Android to Apple for the interface, customization, and app selection. Yes, iTunes has many apps and iPad has many tablet apps, but from experience, I found that many apps were 57 versions of the same thing, just with a different sports team branding or something, and I have yet to be unable to find a good Android app for any of my needs.
3- Even compared to another Android tablet like the Xoom, the ease of typing on a Tab is great. Granted, I have larger hands than most, but I can thumb type in portrait or landscape at about 35 words per minute, not too far behind my keyboard speed.
4- Last but not least, I use my Tab for everything. AllShare lets me use it as a remote to stream from the computer to the tv, with a cardock it is essentially a carputer, I can edit documents on a small device without carrying a laptop, and with it is great for showing off pictures and things better than a phone. That is only the tip of the iceberg.
I am sure if I put further thought into it, I would come up with alot more and this is a long post already, but something else the Tab has done for me that I really enjoy is that I enjoy it so much, I have gone from a lurker to a poster on many Android forums, including starting out here on XDA.
Forgot to mention price
Sorry, forgot to mention your concern about price. I got a brand new T-Mobile Tab (researching on XDA I found GSM had more dev work being done) on eBay for $425, so only $100 more than a Nook Color with the protection plan, which is what I had before the Tab and returned it after a week.
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If you can find one used or on sale
at a great price its fine for web browsing and email
and it's the only 7" capable phone out too, if you don't mind flashing it.
Just dont let anyone see you using it as a phone
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I have the phone enabled on my Tab and I use it all the time. I bought the tab without a contract and flashed it with the JMI rom and a modem.
If you buy a device that is capable of voice communication and you use it that way why should you be wary of someone seeing you use it that way?
The device is FCC legal, has a prepaid sim card and is running a legal operating system.
There is nothing wrong with using a device in a way it was designed to be used as long as you pay for it.
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There is nothing wrong with using a device in a way it was designed to be used as long as you pay for it.
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I think he was just making a joke about how foolish you look holding it up to your head..
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The Galaxy tab has flash video for web but the iPad and Xoom do not.
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Motorola is getting an hint of respect from me... The less Flash (and Air) the better.
Anyway the tab is really awesome to watch videos, can decode with no trouble 1080p at over 40mbps... Plus i'd say this form factor is the best one. And it works as a phone.
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get one! the portability is awesome. 10" screen is too big to carry around. at least for me.
Got the tab and am loving it !!!
Congrats ...i was in the same boat 2 weeks ago best decision I ever made....better than the ipad....
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The Tab is currently the least worst 7" Android tablet out there. I love it. Now priced at where it should be (here in UK at least). Pop in a 3GB sim card (9 quid on amazon) and it's the perfect always online mobile device. It'll be interesting to see other 7" or so devices hit the market soon. That's what I would be comparing it against.
The 10" ones are not mobile enough due to size and weight (I use a car dock with the Tab - can't do that with a 10" without infringing on some local law ). I'm also a bit wary of how the Tegra 2 chipset found in most of them is performing. Video especially seems a bit of a letdown. At least we'll all soon have a lot of choices in formats and features. Still early days...
My one concern is that we may not see Honeycomb on the Tab. I suspect Samsung will skip over it for the Gingerbread V2/Ice Cream (depending on rumours) OS which brings in Honeycomb features for smartphones. The Tab has physical buttons and Honeycomb would seem wrong with that. Of course, knowing Samsung we may see nothing at all....
Yes I am still happy with my tab.
I would have suggested an version #2 if it was 7 inch with better camera and SuperAmoled screen.
Will sell mine only if next version includes all that features without losing batery life.
Yes if you desire portability. Personally I love my tab,now my dad wants one too so I think I'm going to give him mine as soon as I get the replacement back from Samsung(tab stopped turning one, dead battery I'm guessing). I'm gonna get the iPad 2 since I already have the Evo, which I use on the go and I miss iOS adventure games
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I think technology is moving way to fast I've barley had my xoom since June
im not getting the next XOOM 2 or w/e. getting different brand to much bs from moto such as promised lte, no skype video (big for me), and no sd card support until now which is half ass. I love my XOOM but damn u moto
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Not mad. Just because a newer version came out, it's not like it changes how the current model performs. The best part is I'm sure developers will steal some of the new stuff and add it to our rooms.
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I like the angular appearance. It lends a masculine look, which goes well with the Droid (as in "robotic") motif. There's nothing wrong with being sleek and smooth, but the iPad has already cornered the market with that.
Otherwise, the selling hook with this, as well as most of the tabs coming out next month, will be ICS. My bet is the new SoC, whatever it is, will be able to handle 1080p HP, which is a sore point for the Teg2. Hardware + software improvements = compelling upgrade. I think most early adopters will jump (again), if not for this, then for another ICS tab.
Seems to be about the right time tables for a new release. They haven't officially said anything, so the assumption I have is that it is still a little while off on the horizon...
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So,companies make a product and keep it short of features like full hd playback so that there are customers for 2nd,3rd version.
All these rumor threads do is make me feel even more assraped by Motorola and Google.
I love my Xoom, and still have hope that once the SC is released, it will become even 25% better than it already is.
i love my xoom but im done with moto products...
What if its a brother tablet like the Samsung series
Wowwwww nothing but a 1.2 dual core and can record 1080p.....I can overclock to 1.2 and hack to record 1080
No I am not mad and I just got my Xoom like 3 weeks ago.
Tablets are just like cell phones in the aspect of how quickly they are updated for newer models. One would go nuts at all of the updates and if we waited for each one to buy we would buy them every six months.
Also it looks like there is no SD card slot according to them. PASS - no thanks.
Ill enjoy my Xoom for a year or so. Then Ill see what is shakin by then. Maybe it will be a quad core supertablet that can teleport us through time.
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It will be 8.2 HD screen it will be a portrait form factor and be called xoom 2 media edition
Would you get mad every time HP released a new laptop?
Xoom still does everything I need and will for a long time.
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im not getting the next XOOM 2 or w/e. getting different brand to much bs from moto such as promised lte, no skype video (big for me), and no sd card support until now which is half ass. I love my XOOM but damn u moto
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So if the Skype-developers say that they not support the Tegra2 yet, how is that Moto's fault? Skype develops Skype (or MS for that matter), not Moto.
According to TIMN, apparently there'll be at least two Xoom2 tabs, a 10" and a 8.2", and reportedly a smaller one yet.
Sounds like the new gen models have corrected the main shortcomings of the old--IPS screen, thin, light. I'm curious, though, since the mentioned new features ("Media Edition", IR, etc) are all consumer-oriented, and CEO dude had said that enterprise was the target.
Looking forward to see pricing. My guess is $400 for the 8.2, assuming consumer model, $450-ish for the 10.
Am also excited to hear B&N rumors of two NookC follow-ups. It's getting to the fun time of the year, with new toys popping up. The anticipation is even better than the real thing! Heh.
Talk of stylus option could mean digitized display interface like Thinkpad Tablet maybe?
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8.2 lol...1.2ghz rofl.....record in 1080p lmao...this is a joke & Motorola should be ashamed of this succesor to the Xoom..what a freaking joke...Thank god for Asus they got it right.In October they'll be releasing a tablet that will blow the Xoom 2 out the water.."Grab it & it grabs you" rofl...They ain't tricking me again..my money is going to Asus this time.
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So if the Skype-developers say that they not support the Tegra2 yet, how is that Moto's fault? Skype develops Skype (or MS for that matter), not Moto.
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yea but y use some tech that doesn't get supported by popular applications. I mean great it has tegra 2 but tell me wat benefits have we received so far? gaming?? ehhh not really. idk I should've studied b4 I jumped. no more tegra device for me tho.
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8.2 lol...1.2ghz rofl.....record in 1080p lmao...this is a joke & Motorola should be ashamed of this succesor to the Xoom..what a freaking joke...Thank god for Asus they got it right.In October they'll be releasing a tablet that will blow the Xoom 2 out the water.."Grab it & it grabs you" rofl...They ain't tricking me again..my money is going to Asus this time.
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It's not a joke. This is what sounds like is going to be the Media Center edition which will be the 8 inch version. It looks to me like it will be competing directly with Amazon's new Kindle tablet as a smaller yet powerful light weight device that can be held with one hand without a problem. It's smart to make two versions, just in case someone didn't want all that power, but would favor portability more so.
The regular 10 inch Xoom 2 will most likely be sporting the usual: beefed up specs all around, as well as a lighter weight. I don't know if I'm getting the Xoom 2. It all depends on the specs for me. I'm good where I'm at for the time being.
Personally, I will stick with Motorola through and through. I don't see why people flip out about them. I love the Droid's, because they rule. Verizon rules the air with 4G LTE. Imma stay with both of them all the way! Still sportin' an OG Droid.
Oh OK so they will be making a 10 inch version still that I heard about earlier this year. OK I was upset at 1st only because I don't won't anything smaller than what I have now.Asus still looks good as I'm sure they'll have a better screen than the XOOM but I could be wrong but I think Motorola is going to use the same screen as before??
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hmmmmm i still think my Xoom is very relevant and will better suit me for what i use a tablet for. heck my first gen kindle fire is still relevant (for me anyways)
what are your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that comparing the too is like comparing oranges and carrots. The only thing they have in common is the color orange (they're both tablets).
They are damn near 2 generations apart tech wise and 2 completely different form factors.
exactly, thats what i meant, no need to get something new like the ipad mini (or any ipad) when my xoom still fits the bill. apple has always innovated, now with the mini, they are trying to get in on the smaller tablet market that Google and Amazon have already taken the lead in
ever since the world lost steve jobs, apple has taken a slide downward, pretty soon they will be irrelevant
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exactly, thats what i meant, no need to get something new like the ipad mini (or any ipad) when my xoom still fits the bill. apple has always innovated, now with the mini, they are trying to get in on the smaller tablet market that Google and Amazon have already taken the lead in
ever since the world lost steve jobs, apple has taken a slide downward, pretty soon they will be irrelevant
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Honestly it sounds like you just want to chat about how Apple is bad and the Xoom is still a masterpiece (its not - its quite outdated). Apple is still quite relevant to the mobile market (phones and tablets). They make solid products with good hardware, have fantastic marketing, provide options and on the tablet front, are destroying Android in terms of app support (the OS, IMO, is **** compared to Jellybean). Regardless, they're not going anywhere, no matter how hard you pray.
I love my Xoom but it is far far out of date. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10 and may very well upgrade to that.
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Also, while the iPad Mini is the thing everyone is talking about....I think the updated iMac and the Macbooks were much more newsworthy.
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Also, while the iPad Mini is the thing everyone is talking about....I think the updated iMac and the Macbooks were much more newsworthy.
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I agree with this and on a different note the surface isn't to shabby looking either. This is my favorite time of the year.
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Honestly it sounds like you just want to chat about how Apple is bad and the Xoom is still a masterpiece (its not - its quite outdated). Apple is still quite relevant to the mobile market (phones and tablets). They make solid products with good hardware, have fantastic marketing, provide options and on the tablet front, are destroying Android in terms of app support (the OS, IMO, is **** compared to Jellybean). Regardless, they're not going anywhere, no matter how hard you pray.
I love my Xoom but it is far far out of date. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10 and may very well upgrade to that.
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you may be right, but it is just an opinion, never liked apple, but its not like i look for opportunities to bash them....no wait :cyclops:
and yeah as long as the Nexus 10 isn't built by LG i might get one too
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thats true as well
To be honest my xoom2 sound way better than mini ipad mini.
Cubanluke88 said:
Honestly it sounds like you just want to chat about how Apple is bad and the Xoom is still a masterpiece (its not - its quite outdated). Apple is still quite relevant to the mobile market (phones and tablets). They make solid products with good hardware, have fantastic marketing, provide options and on the tablet front, are destroying Android in terms of app support (the OS, IMO, is **** compared to Jellybean). Regardless, they're not going anywhere, no matter how hard you pray.
I love my Xoom but it is far far out of date. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10 and may very well upgrade to that.
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A wolf in sheep clothing is what you are, I see no apple product in your signature all android and yet you downgrade android, Our two year old Xoom run rings around both the iPad2 and mini. 4.3 ratio is so sixties, Bless Motorola who invented cellphone all others are just carbon copy, you mention out of date and yet mini a week old is selling itself on dual band radio when we all know the Xoom was the first tablet to incorperate it. The mini is in Colby league not Xoom..
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A wolf in sheep clothing is what you are, I see no apple product in your signature all android and yet you downgrade android, Our two year old Xoom run rings around both the iPad2 and mini. 4.3 ratio is so sixties, Bless Motorola who invented cellphone all others are just carbon copy, you mention out of date and yet mini a week old is selling itself on dual band radio when we all know the Xoom was the first tablet to incorperate it. The mini is in Colby league not Xoom..
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So now I need to be an Apple user in order to have an unbiased opinion? Please tell me where I downgraded Android wrongly rather than just shrugging it off. Android tablet app support is atrocious. Its getting better and its nice that Android apps "scale" upward but in doing so, a lot of the screen real estate of a tablet is simply not used efficiently. You can compare it to mobile websites. Have you ever looked at a mobile website on a desktop? They look horrible because they're not using the screen real estate efficiently. With all that said, the user interface of the OS itself and the features and speed have finally surpassed that of iOS.
And yes, the Xoom in the tech world of tablets is very out of date. Hardware tech moves fast; its still relevant and useful but the Tegra 2 processor is simply not up to par with newer chips. One of the main Eos devs even said in their nightly thread that the Xoom is old (coming up on 2 years) and people should start looking to upgrade. It was a bit of an off hand comment (as in I don't think they plan on dropping support any time soon) but people were discussing speed and such and the simple fact is the Xoom's hardware is holding it back from taking full advantage of Jellybean (its fast but not nearly as fast as a Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 7 with Project Butter).
Back to my original point, as I stated, comparing the Xoom and Mini is silly and to me comes across as nothing more than a fishing attempt to bash on Apple and circle jerk about the Xoom with other Xoom owners. They are two products that simply don't compare well to one another. A proper comparison would be the Nexus 7 and the Mini; they are much closer in release dates and are actually of similar sizes and targeted at similar customers.
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so what would be the point of buying an ipad mini?
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People that want a smaller tablet and are already invested in the iOS arena or simply prefer it? Tablets that are 9.6" or 10.1" aren't for everyone, just as phones that are 4.7" aren't for everyone. I know quite a few iPhone users who never got iPads because they saw the device as too large and cumbersome. The Mini introduces another option for iOS users at a different price and size.
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In my opinion the xoom is still a far superior device to any of Apple's closed system devices and will be for some time to come.
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In my opinion the xoom is still a far superior device to any of Apple's closed system devices and will be for some time to come.
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And why do you think that?
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In my opinion the xoom is still a far superior device to any of Apple's closed system devices and will be for some time to come.
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great point, open source has always been better at providing better and faster support to products which make them more reliable and longer lasting. look how many old PCs are running linux
on the flip side, proprietary software like drivers from nvidia (on my LG phone) take forever to get updates. LG/Nvidia and T-Mobile have only just recently upgraded my phone to GB 2.3.4 (back in March) where as my Xoom is running the latest JB
I think that apple products are great! They give people who are new to the computer world a chance to learn hope to use a computer...
That being said anything beyond being new to computers in respect to acceptable customer support, software support, getting the most out of your device, power, and topping on the cake ethical business operation, you don't find it in apple.
I won't go to far into detail and try not to hate on apple to much, but I think that if you want a device that actually allows you to fully use the hardware then you have to look elsewhere. I also think that you pay far to much money for devices in that brand since they already get their hardware cheap as hell. sure they build solid hardware, but its not always high end, nor is it reasonably priced.
I bought a laptop from an off brand that was twice the power of the average apple computer today and half the price. I received it a year ago.
Ok enough with apple. Sorry that organization irritates me.
So on the xoom. I bought mine fairly recently. Some of the things I love about it is that it's build Pretty solid. I feel like I could throw this thing at a friggin wall! People claim the hardware is outdated, I don't agree. My xoom has EOS Wingray 153 currently and doesn't have any issues at all with lag. The only problems I've had with running apps is that I can't find enough that I want to use. That is to say ones relevant for me to use. I have about 64GB to fill and not enough apps to fill it with
Now this isn't as if I'm saying there aren't enough apps made for android to be honest I think there are plenty. I like that you don't need to use a ca authority to make an app attachable to the store, and I like that they don't pull root apps from the market. I also haven't heard of people being sued for hacking android devices.
I haven't been able to take full advantage of my xoom hardware yet, though it's mostly due to a lack of trying. I mostly use it for a few games and internet use when I'm not home. I also do ebooks and PDFs as well as ssh and some research. To say the xoom is outdated is in my opinion grossly wrong. The software that does a pretty damn good job of efficiently using the hardware, and I've yet to see an app thus far have trouble functioning properly or have any sort of lag. Well I did once, but that could have been so to a new build I literally just installed it also could have just been the app. In any case I no longer have lag.
To close to the question of iPad mini vs xoom. If you have a reason to use something smaller than a xoom then by all means support a terrible organization, but otherwise I think the xoom will be good for me for another year.
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I hate Apple's policies for market share! But over hating their policies I hate those iSheeps who keeps saying that their iPoops of them is better than Android, which was com proved by Geekbench that it's the opposite! For all those saying that Xoom is better than any Apple device, it's a lie, BUT even with it's 2 y.o. hardware it's only worse than the new iPhone 5, which is worse to GNote 10.1, GNote 2 and GS3! And there's still missing the new devices that'll come now, like RAZR HD, HTC One X+, Xperia T, etc... And on the iPad mini topic, all I can say is that it's not worth in ANY F-Word WAY! N7 is the best 7" tablet you'll see, Xoom 2 ME is way better too! But I else think that's not fair compare a 7" tablet to a 10" one, they were built for different functions and there's no way you can be fair to both sides when comparing utility, for example: I have my Xoom, which is amazing, and today I used a little my mom's Xoom 2 ME tablet, and it was way better to read than my 10.1" screen! That's why I'm keeping my Xoom and getting a Nexus 7, as I don't need another high end 10" tablet for now and need a tablet for better mobility.
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